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> Dumbledore's Wand, will it be the one harry uses
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post Sep 14 2006, 09:54 AM
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hi there this is my first post and have not seen or heard anything about dd's wand,now i was sure that when a wizard dies their wand is snapped [hbp hagrid and slughorn are singing about a wizard ] so i think that harry may beable to use dd's wand to destroy voldermot what do you guys think
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post Sep 14 2006, 11:22 AM
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If it isn't taken away/snapped, I think that it would be a fair idea that Harry use Dumbledore's wand. Because Harry's wand doesn't exactly do much on Voldomort does it since it's made of the same thing-the pheonix tail feather. Also, Dumbledore's wand is more powerful (obviously) and that could give Harry the strenght he needs to finish Voldomort.

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post Sep 14 2006, 01:03 PM
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Ok, I don't think Harry would use Dumbledores wand because of one reason:
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PS/SS, page 64.

Ollivander: "And of course, you will never get such good results with another wizard's wand."


So why would Harry use anothers wand when the outcome wouldn't be as good as if he uses his own? It had been drilled into us since PS/SS that using another wizard's wand would not be as effective as using one that chose you. IE, Neville Longbottom. We know he could have done better if he had his own wand and the fact that he had to use his fathers showed that his spells weren't as effective.

Now to remedy the problem with Prior Incantatem, Harry's and Voldemort's wands fighting each other, we just have to look further into why Ollivander had disappeared, which is in another topic and will not be discussed here.

For Harry to use Dumbledores wand is suicide because, sure it was probably a powerful wand but so is Harrys! It was Harry's wand that has helped him through every obstacle in the books, not DD's.

Now I doubt this thread will entertain many interesting thoughts but I'm willing to leave it open. But if it does not generate much interest or the posts consist of 'Yeah, I agree' or 'Nah, Harry wouldn't use DD's wand' then I'll be closing it.

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post Sep 15 2006, 09:37 AM
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yeah mabye your riight it was my first post and thought but then again olivander is missing so if he is helping or being forced by voldermot to fix his wand to fight against harrys because even he must be a little shocked by what happened in the grave yard that night ,anyway back to my point mabye there is a way round it for harry if the wands dont work against each other mabye dd;s wand or wand core will come into play. I was just intregied by the fact itthe wand was not was not mentioned again
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post Sep 15 2006, 12:16 PM
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Hmm dont they snap a wizards wand in half when they die? I took the song about Oden quite seriously, thinking it as a clue. We never witnessed any retrieving of his wand, or the snapping off it at his funeral. Did Dumbledore have someone hide it? Why? If he is truly dead, as we all believe, then what use would his wand be to the wzarding world after his life is over. These are the questions I ask... it would be fruitless to discuss what his wand specs are becausee as far as I see there is no clues to figure them out, besides the most likely answer of his core is a Pheonix feather... but thats my opinion. biggrin.gif

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post Sep 15 2006, 03:51 PM
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Neville has had his father's wand, so wands are not always snapped when a wizard dies.

Harry can have both his and Dumbledore's wand, if he and the wand are compatible. So he can choose when fighting Voldemord.

Hagrid can also get it - though he's not trained enough, but he was very close to Dumbledore.

The worst would be that some Death Eaters or Snape (I won't debate here if he is or not a DE) took it after killing Dumbledore, to give it to Voldemord.
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post Sep 16 2006, 01:38 PM
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neveilles dad is not dead so the wand was past down to him tongue.gif the only way we will know for sure the wand choose the wizard if it is found mabye it would choose harry as you can still use someone elses wand but not to it best oh god now i am confuised my self dry.gif
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post Sep 16 2006, 01:47 PM
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Snow-white is right. Nevilles Dad isn't dead, he's in St Mungos with his wife after they were both tortured into insanity. Neville had his wand until it was broken in the events in the Department of Mysteries. He now has a new one, Cherry and Unicorn Hair if my memory serves me correctly.

But back on topic now. I really don't think Hagrid, or any DE's or Voldemort will have DD's wand. And I seriously doubt Harry would want to use it. And somehow I don't think a wand can 'choose' someone else once the original owner has passed on. I'm actually surprised that they didn't snap Frank and Alice Longbottom's wands since there seems to be no way that they can recover.


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Yes I'm sorry, Neville's father is not dead.

I still think that either Harry or Voldermord may have Dumbledore's in hand for a duel (to avoid priori incantatem).

We've heard about snapping a dead wizzard's wand in a song. It may not be a law to snap wands.
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post Sep 17 2006, 04:00 PM
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Its seems impossible that harry would albus' wand because they never found it did they or maybe they did?. Anyways Ollivanders said that you can only get the best results with the wand that chose you not any other wand...possibly because of the cores they might have something to do with a wizards ability?
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post Sep 17 2006, 08:19 PM
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Harry won't use Dumbledores wand, even if we knew where it was.

He loves his own wand to much. Even knowing that its brother belongs to voldermort

Could it be the disappearance of Dumbledores wand and Olivander disappearing are connected.

Could Olivander be keeping it safe so it doesn't fall into the wrong hands.



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no he cant have because ollivander dissapeared didnt he. and i dont think harry will use dd's wand because he loves his so much like you said.but i think volemort abducted ollivander so he can get a new wand so that thing in the GoF doesnt happen again.


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post Sep 26 2006, 03:39 PM
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maybe dumbledores wand is buried with him, unlikely but we never knew what happened to james and lilys wands.

sorry thats a bit irrelevant

anyway i agree that harry will keep his own wand because he seems very attached to it because it is special because of fawkes

however because of its connection to fawkes maybe harry will use dumbledores wand and it will work well and have a good effect against lord voldemort
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I like the idea that DD's wand in with him in his tomb. We do not know if that is true for all wizards. I wonder if a wizard could use two wands at once. Hold them together and cast the same spell twice? I don't know. Maybe JK will let us know about it.


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hmm that is interesting, however i agree based on the fact that using the prior incantatem would keep them both locked into a battle of wills and mayhaps would give others a shot at LV while harry is keeping him otherwise occupied? i believe that DD's wand isnt mentioned because either A. it isnt relavent any more, or B. he isnt really dead, but were supposed to think he is for now smile.gif
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