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[witchmom]

Hello Ladies and Gentlemen.

This is the new thread for The Severely Obsessed Snape Society. I am Witchmom (Clara), proud President of the Society. LilyPotter (Emily) is our precious fanfic coordinator.

Our little Club is open to all those who like Snape but maintain a distant and dignified attitude, and to those who spend sleepless nights thinking about Severus (like me, I am afraid ). Any other shade of appreciation between these two extremes is welcome, too!

I need to underline that our admiration is fully extended to Mr Alan Rickman, whose excellent acting has brought many of us to Severus Snape. So the hordes of Alan fans are welcome here!!

We recognize that there is a BookCanonSnape and a MovieCanonSnape, and we fans coexist peacefully on this thread.

The Society has got a website at this address, and I think it's worth a visit. Your suggestions and contributions will be appreciated!! You will be automatically added to the official members list, and if you don't wish to be, simply PM me. In the site, you'll find the link for our FanFic space, which is open to challenges and suggests the best fics on the net.

The thread will provide a bulletin every 7/10 days, helping members to follow the current discussions and topics of interest, and reporting news.

S.O.S.S. is a proud affiliate of M.O.O.O.P.

We plan every year two great initiatives, Snapeweek to celebrate Severus' birthday, starting from January 3, to January 9, and Rickmania Week starting from February 15 to February 21st, birthday of Mr.Alan Rickman.

ABOUT VTM'S SPOILER POLICY REGARDING THE DEATHLY HALLOWS:
Please read carefully the above mentioned policy which can be found HERE. Please note that it's not only a matter of kindness towards those who haven't read the seventh book yet, but also a matter of respecting the rules of this little world we have in VTM.

Welcome to the thread, relax and enjoy the conversation.

[etphonehome]

Glad to see you have had time to open up a shiny new thread Clara. I am looking forward to Snape week....you are such a good girl for doing this on a holiday!!

PS/SS is on TV today, so I'll get an Alan fix at least!!

Happy Hoildays everyone.......

[Capricorn]

Thanks Clara! I've locked and archived the old thread. Cheers to our SOSS and its brand new thread!!!

I'm also looking forward very much to Snape week! I'm gonna watch Love Actually again today, I think. It's Christmas after all, and what would it be without Alan?!

My quote for the day:

"Snape looked as though Christmas had been cancelled."

Wonder what that looks like... Merry Christmas, everyone!

[Padfoot08]

HAPPY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!

witchmom~ THios is a beautiful new thread thanks so much!!
What a great Christmas gift!


MERRY
CHRISTMAS

Just got done watching Love Actually. I absolutely love that movie!!

[witchmom]

This is a Thank you message.
Thank you Padfoot08, I always love that kind of presents...
Thanks to baz and passerby for their essay suggestions. I will add those links to the S.O.S.S. site.
See you later!

[anna fiore]

I just wish you a MERRY CHRISTMAS (or Yule or Saturnalia if you prefer).
I waited for the new thread. I think everyone of us didn't write because of waiting for the new thread.
I'm sure we'll enjoy Snapeweek!

To mother tongue english everyone. In Italy, the book7 title drives us crazy:
someone translates hallows like Saints, others like relics, like ceremonies, like spirits (ghosts) ... what is the meanings of hallows?
and deathly? is it something that kills (maybe the correct word is mortal) or somethig that belongs to a dead person?

Can someone help us? (it could be a Christmas gift)
Do you think JKR means the horcruxes?
thank you for your answers.

Anyway I hope the name of Snape will be in the final chapter.

[witchmom]

Hi Anna,
yeah, discussions are flaming these days here in Italy.
Because, if no-one in English-speaking countries is able to understand what those two words mean in terms of symbols or what, imagine how much we are going crazy in trying to translate them properly!!!

Anyway, I hope that Snape won't die, this is obviously my deepest desire...but you know, at last we have fanfiction!!!

I wanted to share sad news about Alan's Rachel Corrie here. Annie has been at the play in NY last November. I don't remember her saying there were lukewarm reactions from the public, but that there were lots of people with tearful eyes...

Don't you think it's a advertisement move, a way to get attention over the play?

Goodnight...Snapedreams to you all.

[Drinotonks]

Hey Clara and all other s.o.s.s members, just wanted to say hi, mainly to clara (because I noticed you're looking at this site at the moment and that's neve happened to me before!)

A Merry Christams to all and thanks heaps for opening the new thread may the in depth conversations continue! And I'm really excited about Snape week thanks heaps for letting me be in this great society

And anna fiore there's a great topic in the book 7 thread on the title which has many translations and heaps of pages to read through on the title and it's possible meanings so check it out

[baz]

WOO! New threadness!!!

Snapey die in book 7? That's CRAZY talk!

Sigh. Unfortunately, it's not looking too good for him.

Witchmom, thank you for the thank you.

Phew, book seven title! WHAT does it mean? deathly hallows a name for the horcruxes, deathly hallows a name for the 4 founders' burial place...those are a couple of rumours. Then there are those who like being funny, and say it's the name of the place Kreacher keeps his loincloths.

...

Silly people.

Witchmom? from italy? Sorry on the slow uptake, I haven't been on here alot. Fiore...that's flowers in Italian, right anna fiore?

[witchmom]

S.O.S.S. BULLETIN No.2

Hello!!

I am looking for a French-speaking or French mother tongue Snapist (or Rickmaniac..) who's willing to do some really little translation for the S.O.S.S. website. PM me!

The Snape Devotee for the month of December is....BUMBLEBEE !!! Congratulations, Annie. You'll receive a little surprise via PM and your words have been published on the S.O.S.S. website here.
Your words have enlightened a side of our Severus' personality that is both his force and his weakness, and makes him human and lovable. Congratulations!
I invite you all members to read Annie's thoughts again. Occlumency is not allowed, just go to the webpage and read them.

I have browsed the old thread to find the last topics of discussion, and I found out that some of them, although proposed a some weeks ago, hadn't enough answers.

-What would Snape's happy memory be to conjure a patronus?
- Snape as a healer: is this role linked to his past status of Death Eater?
- Why didn't Dumbledore protect Snape from the marauders?

If you feel you still have something to say, please feel free to post your opinions.

I'm adding a new topic here:

- Do you think that Snape, as Head of Slytherin's House, is using favouritism and partiality to aid his Slytherin students?

Some attention on the last news about Rachel Corrie's supposed fiasco in NY. Is Alan's fame as an excellent director tottering after these news?

Thank you for your contributions to the thread!!! and see you here.

Clara )O(

[Bumblebee]

About the play "My Name is Rachel Corrie"... the (small) theatre was full when we went, on November 16. It had been playing for three weeks then.
The review in the NY Times was lukewarm. The reviewer said that for all the drama in the words, there was little drama on the stage. I kept an open mind, and found there was enough drama in the words without needing embellishments. I salute the writers for not falling into the trap of overdramatising something that is dramatic enough in itself.

What did the disappointed theatergoers expect, one wonders. Better sound effects? A live enactment of the death by bulldozer? Other actors to play the part of the concerned parents? Dramatization instead of Rachel Corrie's own words?

I thought the choice of showing what happened through only Rachel's own words a very good choice, and the best way of preserving the play's integrity. Let the audience draw their conclusions. You don't have to sensationalize things to make them poignant. I believed that there was poignancy between the lines. Goethe once said "In der Beschrankung zeigt sich der Meister" -- meaning that it is more masterful to do much with very little than to make your point overabundantly obvious, but then American audiences seem to enjoy the overly obvious. That Canadian theatre director should know better than to use an American audience to gauge his public by, even an audience as eclectic and jaded as the New York crowd.

If I were Alan Rickman I shouldn't be disheartened by his lukewarm reception on the American continent. I think the play will gain respect with time. This is not the kind of thing that works well for people who go to the theater to be entertained, distracted from their troubles. This play is a "talking heads" monologue -- a fantastic performance by the actress, by the way -- the words report rather than act. Can it be called a play when there is no interaction in the scenes? Where do you draw the line between a reading and a play? I think that it is a play, in the same way that Alan Rickman's scene in "Revolutionary Witness" is a play. I'm glad that no compromises have been made to accomodate the theatregoers' hunger for action shows. It's just too bad that so few people appreciate what the creators of this play are trying to do here.

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I wish to thank all my fellow members of the S.O.S.S. for giving me the honour of being the Snape Devotee of the Month!! Thank you, Clara, for putting my words on the site -- yes, this is what I do believe about Severus. A truly remarkable creation of JKR, this agonised and agonising character. May he live long ... but alas, the plot of the series makes his death almost a certainty. My only hope lies with JKR doing the unexpected and letting him live, but that would almost be unkind.

- Do you think that Snape, as Head of Slytherin's House, is using favouritism and partiality to aid his Slytherin students?

Oh yes. He is a Slytherin, and he does sympathise with Slytherins rather more than with pupils from other Houses. He'd also like it that the traditional virtues honoured in the other Houses -- goodness, honesty, bravery, loyalty -- are not taken seriously, as long as they are mere shadows of what these virtues are supposed to be.

[anna fiore]

Thank you, Baz and Drinotonks for your answers. I’m very happy to know even English mother tongue persons don’t understand clearly that title. Drinotonks, I’ll try to found the thread (I confess: sometime I lose myself in the threads ). Baz, yes fiore means flower; you have a little of Italy in you heart … therefore I send you a portrait of most important Italian poet Dante Alighieri because when I red in book1 the description of Snape I thought he resembled to Dante.

About the new discussion, I don’t think Snape ‘is using favouritism and partiality to aid his Slytherin students’. He is the Head of the House, a parental figure, with the Slytherin he his simply … human but because he never shows his human side, others think he is partial.

I already said in the Slytherin house thread Draco had an high mark at the potions OWL exam by stranger examiners; do you remember the Slughorn class? When the students had to prepare the composite poison antidote Harry and Ron wasn’t able to start, Draco made his work.
Did Slughorn estimate Ron as a potionist? No, and Harry would be the same without the Half-Blood Prince help. The truth is Harry is a bad potionist , Draco is a near-good potionist .

Was Snape bad with Neville? 1. I don’t want Neville in my chemistry lab: he is dangerous . 2. McGonagall is always Neville-you-can-do-it, but in her NEWT class there wasn’t Neville.

I want remember to all of you we see Snape through Harry’s eyes and Harry has a lot of prejudice on Snape

[Padfoot08]

Congratulations Bumblebee on being devotee.
I love your post about MNIRC. I think that people did expect more drama in the scenes and dialect. However, I don't understand why. Why can't one go and see a play and not be wowed by lights and fancy stage settings? I think that it is better to go and be moved by the words and be inspired to be a better person. And from everything that I have heard about Corrie, that is exactly the type of play it is and it is getting low reviews for it. Why? Can people not think for themselves; do they have to be awed or be provided comic relief at every turn to give it five stars? Sorry rambling. Anyway...
Also, I don't think that the problem with CanStage has any bad effect on Alan. Just becuase people want to censor the truth doesn't mean that people should look down on Alan. He should be proud of MNIRC! And I bet you he is.

Do you think that Snape, as Head of Slytherin's House, is using favouritism and partiality to aid his Slytherin students?

Errr...well, I'm a Slytherin, so it's good for me. I don't think he treats them special all the time, but yea, of course sometimes he does. When his house doesn't win it looks bad on him. Especially, since no one else seems to like Slytherin, so someone has to help them out by giving them a couple points here and there and that sort of thing.

[baz]

Hi!

What would Snape's happy memory be to conjure a patronus?

I have really no idea. He seems about as happy as someone with their house on fire. The only time I can remember him smile in a pleasure that was not vindictive was...I'll get back to you on that one.

Why didn't Dumbledore protect Snape from the marauders?

I don't know, but maybe he tried to do something. Did he even know about it? I know he was a good egg, but Hogwarts wasn't just the Marauders plus Snape.

Do you think that Snape, as Head of Slytherin's House, is using favouritism and partiality to aid his Slytherin students?

Of course he is. He wouldn't be Snapey otherwise. It's in his nature. He might be exceptionally good at potions, but I don't think he ever enjoyed teaching it (or certain people in his classes with certain scars, poofy hair and freckles).

Especially, since no one else seems to like Slytherin, so someone has to help them out by giving them a couple points here and there and that sort of thing.

Padfoot08, that's a good idea. Gawd knows that houses like gryffindor don't need help! (Unless Snape is docking points...but then it makes it even better for slytherin, right? )

[witchmom]

Hello SOSS members!!!

-What would Snape's happy memory be to conjure a patronus?
...the first time he did magic? since magic seems to be a very important thing for him...

- Do you think that Snape, as Head of Slytherin's House, is using favouritism and partiality to aid his Slytherin students?

well, I found some traits of favouritism in his habit of not scolding Slytherins usually even if they deserve it. I have this feeling, but I can't remember a proper quote. I am planning to re-read again all the books...

Some attention on the last news about Rachel Corrie's supposed fiasco in NY. Is Alan's fame as an excellent director tottering after these news?

I hope not. First, I think that sometimes a bad publicity is publicity, after all. I think that, although the NY public is extremely demanding, the British style of staging is quite different, even more sophisticated. There's nothing more elegant than simplicity. I guess that European theatre is quite intellectual, and a single actor or actress on stage is more intense than a whole crowd of people.

Oh yes. He is a Slytherin, and he does sympathise with Slytherins rather more than with pupils from other Houses. He'd also like it that the traditional virtues honoured in the other Houses -- goodness, honesty, bravery, loyalty -- are not taken seriously, as long as they are mere shadows of what these virtues are supposed to be.

Annie, I must write down your words. I think they raised a question: is Snape so bitter because he is attached to conservative values and he sees them disregarded by Hogwarts students and their families? is he a conservative type or an innovator?

The potionist skills are another interesting topic of discussion, thanks Anna Fiore for having suggested it. Is Snape a good teacher? I mean, his best students are good at Potions just for a personal ability or because he's good at his work? The hint you made about Neville is interesting, too. Snape doesn't hate him, but he is clearly worried about the consequences of Neville's clumsiness. Potions is a tough subject and the results of a mistake can be really dangerous.

OT: I want to thank publicly Anna Fiore for her kindness. She's sooooo nice, and a true Slytherin -with all the possible positive connotations, being a Slytherin myself !! We have spent a wonderful day together yesterday!! Thank you again!! I'm going to put Dante's portrait on Snape's Doubles Page.

I wanted also to tell you all that alanrickmangallery is NOT going to close!!! the site owner has received public praise for her work and she decided to keep it open. YAYYYY!!! I adore that site. I suggest you to check her new Snowcake review, which by the way I find intelligent and sarcastic, a very Snapey speech....really enjoyable if you appreciate some good direct opinions and a sharp irony.

OK, see you later.