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[Quality Quidditch Supplies]

Right, well, I was just wondering if JK had said anything about the limits on Aparation, or how it is attempted? George says in OotP that it is harder in the dark, so I think that you would have to be able ti visualize wherever it is you wanted to go, but that doesn't add up with the mass Aparations in GoF to the Quidditch World Cup. Also, does anyone think that there are certain distance constraints? I mean, is it possible to Aparate to the otherside of the world? Somehow, I don't think so. Now I know that there is no concrete evidence to build on, but speculations, anyone?

[ashleigh07]

Firstly, this is in the wrong section. As apparating is related to all books, it should have been in the Books section under the General forum. I'll move it for you shortly but please be more careful when deciding WHERE you want to post your new topic. I've also edited the topic title.

Okay now on to what I think. I reckon it's all to do with "practice makes perfect". Fred and George had just past they tests so obviously they wouldn't be perfect at apparating whereever and whenever they wanted. In time, as they get used to and more acquainted with their newly-learnt ability, they'll surely get better at it. However at the QWC there were heaps of trained wizards there who probably sat for their tests quite a while back so they're like experts at it. Apparating becomes almost like second nature to them.

Hmmm yeah I *do* think it's about the ability to visualize where you want to go. So the clearer your destination is in your head visually, the more accurately you'll land there. Kinda like travelling by floo powder. You've gotta speak VERY clearly, otherwise you'd end up in the wrong fireplace.

As for distance constraints, not too sure, but I'm guessing there probably would be. Like apparating to the other side of the world...perhaps only extremely powerful wizards like Dumbledore could do it?

And that's my two-cents worth for ya...

[avrilluver]

well, i have no idea about the distance thing, but yes, practice makes perfect, with anything. however, i do belive that it is physicaly draining. proff: in ootp, hagrid says that dombledore rides the threastals when he doesnt feel like apparating. well, if it was just close your eyes, visualize, and *pop* your there, why would you bother riding the threastals? well, albus is a rather old guy, and it'd proably give him a bunch of wear-and-tear to be doing something that is the equivalent of running the 100meter dash, eh?

[Tuitus]

I think apparation is a specific vanishment, and that vanishment is the temporary transfiguration of matter into energy.
So, I imagine when a wizard/witch vanishes themselves, they are moving incredibly fast towards their intended destination, and are able to see where they are going. Of course, just like flying, the hardest part is landing, meaning the disapparated person concentrates upon stopping, then completely appearing. Which explains why George complained about not seeing where he was attempting to appear.
Rowling has given previews of what apparation may be like through Harry's experiences with other vanishing medium. When travelling via portkey, the passengers are adhered to the portkey, spinning in a whirl of color and sound. When using floo powder, Harry is moving forward in green flame past hundreds of fireplaces at a moment's glance.

[harrydan]

well to apparate you need to be able to think in your head where you want to go and picture yourself there you need imagination and alot of skill.

[pigwidigon]

as was discussed in a now locked topic I think that there must be rules in place for apparating or we would have people apparating all over the place..its just like us in cars we cant drive where ever we feel like it..there are rules set in place ensure everyone is following the same guidelines..I think JKR just didnt want to waste valuable story plot space to tell us the ins and outs of apparating...

[Ghost]

Yeah, without rules to it, it would be anarchy. And I'm sure that there's more to the test than just wether you can do it properly or not.

[notdumbledore]

One thing that has always bothered me about Apparation is the noise. When JK first introduces it in the second chapter of PS/SS when Dumbledore appears on Privet Drive. But it says that he appears silently while when Dungy does it in Ootp, it is mistaken for a backfiring car. I can't think of any other times but I remember making mental notes of sometimes its very loud and sometimes its a faint pop or silent. My theory is that Dumbledore is a better wizard so he probably has had so much experiance with Apparation making it easier to control say distance and noise.

[bluephoenix5]

Probably apparartion is the quickest way to travel but it's not the easiet. you have to practice over and over again which i understand why. so you don't end up in two different places at once or something. that's the only downer is practicing apparation. it seems so hard but i bet once you get the hang of it it becomes extremely easy.just a simply "pop" and you are gone. it's great. just with other ways of traveling you don't have to pratice and you just..well go. but as you have said before practice makes perfect. just seems so hard with apparation...oh well i bet it's worth it in the end.

[Albus Dumbledore]

I would like to agree with Not Dumbledore about the noise of apparation. It also has bothered me when wizards pop in an out of the picture while Dumbledore just appears with out noise. I think, just as said above, that it has to do with his power and probably determination. I also thinkt hat apparation is a great defensive and offensive tool for skilled wizards. Not only can Dumbledore block his mind from intrusion and utter nonverbal spells, he can also appear and dissappear with a turn of his cloak o throw the enemy off. I would be very frightened I i were a deatheater or anyone for that matter if I were to face someone with such skills

[bajab]

I agree that JKR would appear to have apparating as something difficult to do, but then she makes the lessons in HBP ridiculous!

If it was that easy to apparate, why would the cash strapped Weasley's use precious Floo powder? The adults could apparate with a passenger (side-along), or even on their own, to save money (and arrive at their destination clean!).

Of course, JKR has made a lot of the wizarding world illogical. I am sure she wants us to feel the way many younger children feel about the adults and world around them

[HermioneClone]

Apparating must be more difficult than imagining where you want to be, otherwise people would learn it instantly. I also agree with the people who said that skill probably has a lot to do with the level of noise the apparating makes. I think Dumbledore could do it silently because he was so skilled and powerful, I'm sure it would come in useful to be silent while apparating. Maybe it' so hard because it's difficult to master the level of concentration it takes.
I know it's a different topic altogether, but I also wonder how the anti-apparating charms work. Like what happens if you apparate into a non-apparating zone (i.e. Hogwarts or someone's home).

[jarn]

Aye, it's all about practice. Dumbledore himself probably left an eyebrow behind or something his first time, and at the end he could do it perfectly silent... The volume of the POP/CRACK I think is also probably due to the distance of apparition as well, not only skill. People have left half their bodies apparating two feet though so... I dunno, it's all about the individual.

[mayfair]

I guess there have been some wonderful explanations offered for the principles behind apparition and the finesse with which a wizard or a witch may apparate may directly correlate to the level of concentartion put behind it. However, in answer to this point

The volume of the POP/CRACK I think is also probably due to the distance of apparition as well, not only skill.

I am not too sure about that. While it's true that longer disatnces may require more concentration and skill, the volume may be independent of it. In OotP, Fred and George would make large cracks when the apparated from their bedroom to Ron and Harry's, so distance does not seem to be much of a factor. Of course, like someone pointed out that this may be due to their inexperience