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[demon jarjar]

I am halfway through reading hbp for the second time, and I've just thought of something. What was Wormtail doing for Snape? He was put there for a reason, not just to be Snape's slave and I think that LV is using wormail to spy on Snape. This would mean that LV does not trust snape as much as the other DEs think. Clearly Wormtail will appear in book seven, perhaps fighting against lupin/he saves harry's life by killing greyback, which would clear up the lifedept.

[Pixymajik]

I have to say that I wondered about this as well when he wasn't mentioned again by the end of the book.

LV had made it pretty clear that he doesn't think a lot of Wormtail, so I don't know why he'd suddenly be so important to spy on Snape. But I can't think what else he'd be doing there.

[feetpeet]

Maybe LV is just so revolted with WT at the moment that he just wanted to hand him over to Snape. Or no one really trusts Snape, so LV sent Wormtail, who likes to listen through doors, to spy.

[Lulu]

This part of the book was a bit cheesy..
It didn't explain really what was going on at Snape's.
But Snape said that Wormtail was set to assist Snape, but I think there is more to it than just that... hmm

[Snapelover]

I think we have to remember that Wormtail owes a life debt to Harry too. A well as that, he has never been the one to be 100% loyal to anyone. He could very well be lisyening to all that he can and trying to see which way the tides are turning at that moment. Listening at doors can get him information he will need later. Like, when am I going to go running to Harry to help him? When LV is in real trouble and Wormtail has a chance to save his own tail. As for him being with Snape, well, they just need to hide. Actually, Wormtail needs to hide. I ma sure he can get annoying. Especially if LV knows Wormtail can not be fuly trusted, then he woul send him to hide elsewhere while he makes plans to kill others.

[mel_tonks]

My guess is that Wormtail is probably in hiding.

In the opening chapter Fudge tells the Prime Minister that Sirius was innocent after all so the Ministry must now know the truth, that Peter Pettigrew is not deadand it was Peter that killed all those Muggles and betrayed Lily & James.

So he will be wanted for murder and for being in league with Voldemort.

Snape cant just hand him over because then his cover would be blown, no matter what side he was working for.

If he handed Peter over to the Ministry/Order the Voldemort would know that he was no longer with him.

[abzz]

This was reeeaaalllyyy odd!!! What in the world was Wormtail doing in Snapes house...hidden in the wall!!! This definitely isn't the end of Wormtail...I'm 100% sure that Wormtail will return in the 7th book...he's owes Harry his life...everybody knows that...i was just tryin to act smart !!

[Minizter_For_Morons]

If snape is good, Petigrew could have been Albus's doppelganger.

If snape is bad, he could be torturing Peter for being found out by Black.

[Accio Xbox]

I was rereading HBP, and I was on Spinner's End, and I noticed something. When Narcissa asked if they're alone, Snape relpies:

[Allie]

Nope, it's never been posted anywhere else!

I think that we've previously seen some indication that Pettigrew is using this nickname among the Death Eaters. I'm not at home and therefore do not have all my books by my side at the moment (), but I'm pretty sure that Voldemort called him 'Wormtail' throughout GoF, which makes me think that this is just some weird nickname that he's decided to adopt permanently... don't know why, though... I wouldn't latch onto any nickname that had to do with a rat, if it were me.

I do think that Snape knew about the nickname before rejoining Voldemort, however. He seemed to recognize the names on the Marauders' Map, or otherwise he'd have no reason to suspect that Harry got it 'directly from the manufacturers.' It wouldn't really surprise me if Snape was aware of these nicknames based on any distant connection that he had with the Marauders, though. I mean, in the scene in the Pensieve, we know that James calls Sirius 'Padfoot' and Peter 'Wormtail,' so Snape could have picked the nicknames up while revisiting that memory, if nowhere else... I dunno, there doesn't seem to be anything particularly suspicious about this to me. Plenty of people in my school, for example, know that 'Anthony Goldstein' is my Internet alter-ego (), and this really isn't terribly different.

[Pixymajik]

LV makes reference to Peter as Wormtail several times in Book 4 in that chapter where he regathers. I'm assuming that if LV calls him Wormtail, then the rest of the DE are going to as well. However if LV always knew him as wormtail or how that came about is in question, but I don't really think important in the grand scheme of things

[Jerry]

I agree with Allie, that it's most like;y that snape simply over hear James, Sirius or Reimus using the nickname 'Wormtale' for Peter when they were in school together, it's a bit conspirecy-theorist-like to suggest that he learned this from any other, darker means.

[firewhisky12]

Have you read Goblet of fire?

When Barty Crouch jr is under the influence of Veritaserum?

He mentions wormtail quite a few times. Snape was in the room

[Accio Xbox]

yes i have read Goblet of Fire or I wouldn't be posting in the Post-Half Blood Prince forum ....I've read all the books...I just don't own them all yet, so I can't go and look up tidbits of information whenever I please. Goblet of Fire and Chamber of Secrets are the two books i on't own, so my apoligies.

Edit: Allie, you mentioned you wouldn't want to keep a nickname that reminded you that you were a rat.

Well....

I wouldn't wanna become a rat....don't you get to choose what animal you become? If so, Wormtail is lame on many, many more levels....I mean, James and Sirius became big enough aniamls to keep Lupin in check...so they must of had control of it somehow...I think maybe the animal reflects your personality....therefore Wormail became vermin because he was vermin.

This post has been edited by Accio Xbox: Jul 23 2005, 02:18 AM

[Allie]

Mmm... well, I'm sure that the wizard doesn't get to choose his Animagus form, but if you ask me, the fact that he doesn't get to choose (and yet Pettigrew turns out a rat) is even more compelling support for the theory that the animal reflects the wizard than were the wizard allowed to pick his animal. That's a very good idea that you've got going... I believe that JKR has mentioned before that a wizard's Animagus/Patronus is somehow correlated with a wizard's personality, so that would also constitute 'official' confirmation that your theory is correct. I don't really understand exactly how this works all the time -- I mean, how is an otter supposed to represent Hermione's character traits? -- but the stag and the vicious-looking dog ... those are definitely strong animals, and I can see how they are related to James's and Sirius's personalities. And yes, Pettigrew is a definite rat. Small, small-minded, filthy, the works. I still don't get why he keeps the nickname, though. Why not go by 'Peter' instead? You'd think that he wouldn't want to draw Voldemort and the Death Eaters' attention to the fact that his Animagus form is such a weak animal, if it really does reflect something deeper about his personality...