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post Jul 23 2005, 01:08 PM
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I think Hermione character was a little bit different to other books because she is started to do magic to help Ron to make the Quidditch Team, behavior inusual in her.

Adittionally I think she is more sensitive because she shows the feelings about Ron openly, but I didnīt like so much the fact that JKR are mixing the 4th movie with this book, emphasizing that kiss of Hermione and Krum in the movie (that doesnīt appear in the 4th book) and mentioning in 6th book that a real fact.

I understand this point affects mainly the relationship between her and Ron in HBP book, and I suppose JKR is trying to picture the teenage behavior with this inmature behavior of Ron overecting with that kiss stuff and Ginny accusations .....

What is your opinion about it?
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post Jul 23 2005, 02:12 PM
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Yes,Hermione didnt have any significant role to play in the plot of the book.Come to think of it ,neither did the other students.It was all about Harry,Dumbledore,Snape and Draco...but we can expect Hermione to be in her elements in the final book.
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post Jul 23 2005, 03:27 PM
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Hermione is the only solution to the problem of Harry's lack of ability. I HBP he is completely outclassed by Snapes skill (not boding well for book 7). During their time Hogwarts Snape was creating new potions and Dark Arts spells, James, Sirrius, Lupin and Pettigrew taught themselves animagus skills and created the Mauraders map. Of the present inmates only Hermione shows anything like the ability to match these feats only she doen't dare to. However the quidditch trials incident does show that this may be changing. Also consider the level of magical Ability Dumbledore was required to show in the cave, with 4 more H's left to deal with who is going to do this when the time comes? I don't think anybody will come back from the dead. No as always the doing is Harry's job working out what and how will be Hermione! That will be her role in book 7
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post Jul 23 2005, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE (MrLupin @ Jul 23 2005, 08:12 AM)
Yes,Hermione didnt have any significant role to play in the plot of the book.Come to think of it ,neither did the other students.It was all about Harry,Dumbledore,Snape and Draco...but we can expect Hermione to be in her elements in the final book.

I think Hermoine will be entirely in her element in Book 7. She's got a history of being the sleuth of the 3 (Harry, Ron, Hermoine) and has an uncanny knack of solving puzzles. I believe the crux of Book 7 will be:

Primary Goal: Showdown/elimination of Voldemort

Dependent Goals: Finding and destroying the remaining horcruxes so that when Harry does face Voldemort, he'll simply be a mortal wizard.

Underlying Storylines:

Hermoine/Ron relationship

Resolution/probable redemption of Draco and Snape

Who was Lily Evans?

What really happened the night Voldemort attacked Harry and why?
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post Jul 23 2005, 05:18 PM
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I really liked Hermione in this book. she's grown up and become more confident.

She finally showed feelings for Ron and helping him made Keeper shows that she isn't that Percy-ish. She broke rules in order to make Ron happy.

I also loved it when she made those birds attack Ron.. he he
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post Jul 23 2005, 06:29 PM
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Hmm..Hermione's character. Well, I, for one, am obsessed with Hermione, and was a bit disappointed at how she was played in HBP.
Of course, she was more advanced in magic and such..but she acted a bit more...'girly', I guess is the right word.
But then again, she was 17 (yes, for people who don't know, she's a year older than everyone else). I thought that she was actually more mature in the second book. In this one, she was way too flirty, for me, and the only time I saw her being the Hermione she was, is when she was talking about the HBP.
I'm glad that she was more loose about the rules though.


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I was also shocked when I read Hermiones character and her flirty-break-the-rules-ways but I kind of liked it..I mean they are growing up and its completely normal for them to be more in tune to their "feelings" I was a little dissapinted on a whole about character involvement..I thought we would see more of the DA than we did and I thought that more people would return..but that is a whole other discussion...I am hoping that Hermione will have more of a part in the seventh book as both her and Ron said they would go with Harry where ever he went..


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post Jul 26 2005, 11:58 AM
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I guess I was expecting all that Hermione went through to have happened a little earlier in the series. I realise that everyone had to grow up and get interested in romance and all of that, but she's 17. I'd have expected the silly-flirty behaviours to be STOPPING at this age, not starting.

She's always been a bit complex. Intellectually she's been a little too mature for her age but then I've always seen her to some extent as a girl playing dressups in someone's mother's clothes type- aka, a little girl who for whatever reason is placed with an older person situation. But she's generally always been likeable. I just found her silly in this one.


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post Jul 26 2005, 01:16 PM
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i think throughout the past 6 books, Hermione has really relaxed and has become to understand friendship. Not that she didn't understand it to begin with, but she is very smart, but a little immature when it comes to person to person relationships. In that, she has grown. Which shows in her behavior toward Ron in HBP, she begins to actually act like a teenager not a teacher. Which for her, is a big step in accepting who she is and who her frinds are. Sort of embracing her youth, instead of trying to be the adult all the time. It was liberating to see her step back and for once, watch what was going on around her and think of her own feelings. I think her brains will always be important to the trio, but they are stronger when she supports them emotionaly. Well...I am rambling now about her. Never have been a huge Hermione fan, but she has grown on me over the years!


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post Jul 26 2005, 07:26 PM
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i actually thought she was quite annoying in this book.. dunno how to explain it really, but shes just starting to get on my nerves... i felt the same about harry actually in the order of the phoenix... spesh the beginning...
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post Jul 26 2005, 07:35 PM
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The roles of Hermione and Ginny seemed to serve the more light-hearted aspects of the book dealing with teenage love/infatuation. I think that JKR was trying to reintroduce some humor and human elements since "Order of the Phoenix" was so dark and the 7th book will undoubtedly be the darkest yet. I agree that all of the crucial plot elements of "Half-Blood Prince" were centered around Harry, Draco, Snape and Dumbledore.

However, I have to agree that Hermione will play a huge role in the seventh book. Her magical ability outstrips every other student at Hogwarts and rivals or exceeds most adult witches--including Death Eaters. Harry's main attributes are his "love" (pointed out to be so important by Dumbledore), his fierce loyalty to his friends, and an inner great magical power that has yet to be unleashed. Hermione will undoubtedly play a big role in helping Harry unlock this power so that he can ultimately face Voldemort. We see a degree of the power that Harry can achieve in "The Prisoner of Azkaban" when he casts the Patronus Charm to chase away an entire group of Dementors--Hermione herself commented that only a very powerful wizard would have been able to do that.

Although Harry is an above average student, it is Hermione who is exceedingly brilliant and has the ability to read what is in a textbook and bring it into actual practice. Anyone who has ever been to college knows just how difficult it is. Undoubtedly, new spells will be needed to help with the fight against Voldemort and Hermione is just the person to do the research and provide the individual tutelage to Harry to make sure that he can perform them to the best of his ability. Once Harry learns the principles behind casting a particular spell, I believe he has much more shear power than any other wizard.

Also, I think that Hermione will be very important in locating at least some of the Horcruxes. Although, I believe that the location of the final Horcruxes will probably be revealed by Snape--which is why I believed that he agreed to kill Dumbledore (please read my posts in "Who Did Snape Really Betray") and deep undercover.

I think it is obvious that Hermione will play a critical role. I wonder what Ron will do, however.
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post Jul 27 2005, 12:14 AM
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Snape lover states:

"Hermione is the only solution to the problem of Harry's lack of ability. In HBP he is completely outclassed by Snapes skill (not boding well for book 7)."


Not completely true -- in the first DADA class, Harry floors Snape with the shield charm. This is the first time that Snape sees Harry's strength as a wizard (My favorite scene in the book.) I was disappointed this was not carried further in the book.

Keep in mind that in the world of JKR, there is a lot more to magic than Snape (or Voldemort) envision. Harry has always been very accomplished in these 'non-traditional' areas of magic (Love, courage, and determination.)

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I think Hermione acted the way she did because she was ready for Ron. She already had the first-crush-middle-school-like relationship with Krum, she's moved on with that part of herself. She was ready for love, the can't sleep at night, confusing, love beyond reason, love. And with Ron, because she's felt this way for years. But Ron wasn't ready. Love makes you do the wacky, Hermione was just caught up in it.


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post Jul 27 2005, 10:51 AM
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i did not really like the way Hermione was written at all. It seemed to lack the usual depth of character or something. i don't know exactly what was missing, but something was.

Of course Hermione muct play a huge role in the next book, becasue lets face it, Harry is an just average wizard, except perhaps in Defence against the Dark Arts, and who knows how he is is going in that subject, as there was not alot written about it in HBP, and i can't imagine that having snape as a teacher would be motivating or encouraging. So in saying that, Hermione, who is definetly an above average student, will be relied upon to make the clever connections, and perform the harder spells and charms... and knowing her character ,she will also be there to protect HArry andRon from hasty decisions and inform them of possible consequences.
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post Jul 27 2005, 08:30 PM
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I wasn't a Hermione fan at first, when I read the first book, but she has been growing on me adn now I think she is really cool. The fact that she is now having...I will call them emotioneal issues... is really good because it makes her seem like any other girl. And she is in LoVe.
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