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Do you think that Umbridge ruined ootp? I do, she made everything at hogwarts miserable and she really annoyed me, i just didnt enjoy it as much as the other books. Did you?
I agree... I felt so sorry for Harry all the time... and Umbridge was just horrible!!! But I still think it's a great book! I hope things will get better though!
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I agree... I felt so sorry for Harry all the time... and Umbridge was just horrible!!! But I still think it's a great book! I hope things will get better though!
I agree with both of you, but I think Umbridge added to the goodness of the book. She's the antagonist - the one everyone is supposed to (and does) hate.
[size=18]I loved the book but I did always get an angry feeling while reading it. I wanted Harry to say something about his punishment with Umbridge but I know why he didn't want to. Plus the whole thing with Dumbledore not talking to Harry and him not finding out until the end why. I was as angry as Harry was thoughout the whole book. I felt bad for Ron and Hermione when Harry was yelling at them. I know why he was upset but what could they do. They had to keep certian things a secret until they were face to face.
JK Rowling did a great job putting in characters that you love to hate. I think the books would be a bit boring if everything went all great for Harry and the gang and there wasn't any kind of struggle either physically or mentally. I'm dying for the next book to see where things end up.
I hated Umbridge, but I think she was important too. You can't just have flowers and sunshine all the time. And, you gotta admit, we all hate her so much cos she's the perfect bad guy. Or... girl... woman... whatever! :wink:
Even though i hated her, i don't think that she ruined the book. She added a lil more punch and story to the book and it made readers wanna read more to find out wat other mean thing she is gonna do. I felt really bad for Harry though. Poor him :cry:
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I didn't want to keep on reading after the hand thing. I wanted to throw the book across the room and cry my eyes out. Harry Potter wasn't for little kiddies anymore. It was turning BRUTAL. And that's not fair to the kids who are younger then us, who are just aching to learn how to read so that they can experience the magic of Harry Potter.
But yes, I think Umbridge ruined the book....for me at least. She totally destroyed my liking for Harry Potter at that time. (It's been rekindled, don't worry!)
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i wouldnt blame anyone for hating umbridge (cuz i hate her too :twisted: !!) but i dont think that she ruined the books! like everyone said, it shows that the books arent always happy.
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True, too true. They aren't always happy at all. But they're not not always happy to the extent where there's blood and detention and no Quidditch and all that other stuff. For us it's alright, but who's going to fight for the little kids? I mean, who is Harry Potter really meant for now? Is it for the people who are Harry's age? Is it for adults? Is it for six year-olds?
I mean.......Umbridge just made everything more mature.
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I worry for the children as well. It's so gruesome for them, I just hope parents realize what's happening in the books before their children start sobbing over Harry.
Anyway, I don't think Umbridge ruined the book, either. Hatred burns inside of me when I think of her almost as much as it burns at the thought of Kreacher. That's saying something, believe me. I wanted to smash the book so much, burn it, rip it apart, anything to do away with it when I read about Umbridge, and mostly Kreacher.
I hope we have a more light-hearted DADA teacher in HBP.
But the rerason she ruined the book for me is that i was always in a bad mood whilst reading it because of her, and that made the book seem horrible and boring, i dont know why it made me feel that way...
Umbridge didn't ruin the book. The books are getting more serious and darker with Voldemort's return to power, and she's a sign of that. Anyways, she IS defeated in the end, it was just a harder struggle for Harry. He can't be THAT lucky his whole life.
Also, JKR never wrote Harry Potter specifically for kids. And I really don't see how little kids would be emotionally scarred or whatever by reading this book. I mean, kids can turn to almost any channel on TV and see people getting shot, stabbed, blown up, etc.
Did Umbridge ruin the book?
Jul 10 2004, 09:27 AM
