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Okay, I brought this topic up briefly in another thread, but it wasn't the right place to talk about it. So, I did a search and couldn't find a topic like this, so here's my question:
Why didn't they have a funeral for Sirius?
He was an extremely big character, or at least big enough and close enough to Harry to deserve one. After the events that took place in the MoM, he was cleared of all his charged crimes by the Minister himself. So I don't see why there wouldn't be a funeral.
Do you guys agree that he should have had one, or is he too unimportant to deserve one (I sure don't think so)?
perhaps because there were people who believed he's evil (sirius) and if they saw Dumbledore and others on the funeral... i know, this isn't very good. Good question, though... but wait, he was cleared of everyhting. now i really don't know why. of course he was a big character, one of my most favourites *sniff*. his death was even worse for m than dumbledore's. i'm waiting for what others have to say.
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Obviously, but I think Feeder meant at least "coffin funeral". I mean... better than nothing, isn't it? He deserved funeral in my opinion, (as i said before.)
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I don't think that it was that he wasn't important enough, it is just that there was no body and not enough time.
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Well what I meant was they would just use an empty coffin as lutsija said. I don't think the actually body is very important, the funeral is supposed to honor his memory and leave a shrine to remember him; the bodie's unimportant.
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it was an extremely busy time for them
It was an extremely busy time at the end of the sixth book, and they still had a funeral for DD.
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The only people who would have had any interest in going would be the Order,
That doesn't mean they can't have one. At a funeral is the family and friends of the person; in this case, those people happen to be in the order. And just because only a few people have interest in going doesn't mean you can't have one.
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i can't believe that Sirius would want a funeral
Why? Although I can kind of see why you would say that, but please elaborate.
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Even though Sirius was cleared, some people still thought he was the crazy loony guy who blew up Pettigrew and killed all the Muggles. Also another thing is, maybe JKR purposely didn't write a funeral for him because he wasn't actually hit by the AK Curse but fell into the veil and he disappeared. Or maybe I'm just in denial because I liked Sirius so so so much.
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That could be it. JK didn't give him a funeral because she wasn't done with him, and he wasn't actually dead. But as for your other statement:
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some people still thought he was the crazy loony guy who blew up Pettigrew and killed all the Muggles
I've already said, this is no reason for them to not have a funeral for him. The point is Lupin, Harry, Ron, Hermione etc. all loved and cared for Sirius, which should be enough for them to want to have a funeral for him.
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Well, this is kinda confusing. Because the question was, why didn't they have a funeral for Sirius, but for every suggestion someone makes, they get told they're wrong and that there should have been a funeral! So I guess no suggestion is going to be the right one, but here's my attempt:
I think JK left it out. That's all. Instead of a funeral scene, she had the scene where Harry wants to talk to Nearly Headless Nick about the nature of death, hoping maybe Sirius could be a ghost and he wouldn't have to lose him. And then the following scene where he finally remembers the gift that Sirius gave him and realises he could always have communicated with him via the mirror--I think JK probably felt those scenes would have more emotional impact, portray Harry's grief better, than a funeral or memorial service scene would have done.
Well, this is kinda confusing. Because the question was, why didn't they have a funeral for Sirius, but for every suggestion someone makes, they get told they're wrong and that there should have been a funeral!
I was just saying it wouldn't be a very legit reason for JK not to give him a funeral. I mean, it shouldn't really matter what the public thinks about the person, only the people that care for him. Sorry if I came across as oppressive or something, I was just trying to spark conversation.
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What I had meant by every one thinking he was loony is that some people may think he is still on the loose somewhere with Voldemort. Not many people would come to his funeral. Maybe it was Dumbledore's decision not to have a funeral for Sirius out of respect for Sirius and respect for Harry.Yeah JKR could have forgotten it but how on earth could she forget that?! Sirius is an important character, and I'm not sure we got all the straight facts about that veil. I know Luna told Harry about it, but I think there's more to it.
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What I had meant by every one thinking he was loony is that some people may think he is still on the loose somewhere with Voldemort.
Oh, yeah I guess not everybody would believe the ministry that he was actually innocent. And Iagree with you that JK couldn't forget about Sirius, unless she did feel that the scenes with Nick and the mirror were sufficient enough to bring closure to his character as Aethonon suggested.
Thank you Aethonon, I just found a bit odd for JK not to, as you said, give him a "memorial service." So I brought it up here to see if any of you guys had suggestions.
Sirius' Funeral, Why didn't they have it?
Dec 10 2005, 09:18 PM
So I guess no suggestion is going to be the right one, but here's my attempt:
