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My wife and I believe that Percy will be redeemed in some way in the final book. He was in Gryffindor and I can't imagine JK leaving things unsettled after this book. One thought we had was that somehow he finds out something at the Ministry and stops it. I saw one thread out there saying that the new minister of magic is working for LV. Maybe Percy stops him, but I don't know.
My wife and I believe that Percy will be redeemed in some way in the final book. He was in Gryffindor and I can't imagine JK leaving things unsettled after this book. One thought we had was that somehow he finds out something at the Ministry and stops it. I saw one thread out there saying that the new minister of magic is working for LV. Maybe Percy stops him, but I don't know.
Would love to hear your thoughts?
I too believe that there will be some redemption for Percy in the final book. I also think that Percy will make up with Molly and Arthur and become part of the Weasleys again. He will have a wife with him, I suspect it will be Penelope Clearwater. With the talk (on other threads) about a baby for Ginny and Harry, I would think that if JKR were to write in a pregnancy it would be for Percy and Penelope, and NOT GInny and Harry. A baby can bring families back together. Percy knows a lot about the goings on at the DOM, having worked for Fudge and all. I really think he is a valuable asset to the storyline in book 7.
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I think that in the seventh book, hopefully, we will learn alot more about Percy. Yea, i know he left becasue he was upset with his parents, but now, why hasn't he gone back to them?
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Its a bit ambiguious as to whether being in Gryffindor makes you automatically a 'good' person, or if you're assigned because you are 'brave' ... I dont think they mean the same thing all the time either
I would like to believe Percy will redeem himself. He certainly has a lot to answer for with the rest of his family. And I remember he actually has a very caring side to him, which showed when Harry pulled Ron from the lake in GOF. I think in OOTP, his ambition blinded his instinct. I mean he always approved of Harry before that, but it seemed because he was working for the Ministry and wanted to impress, he took on board all of their ideals. I dont mean to upset anyone by this remark, so please take it in the context I am saying it, but it reminds me a bit of the Hitler Youth. Some joined because it meant a better life for themselves and their families, others were bullied into it by peer pressure, and of course, there are those who took up the cause, ignorantly believing in it because people who seemed far more knowledgeable and powerful told them it was the right thing to do.
Percy hasn't actually changed all that much from OOTP to HBP, he was still acting as a lacky for the current Minister, allowing himself to be used and allienated from his family, so its a bit of a stretch to think that he will just suddenly see the light, unless something happens to jolt him to reality. Like Dumbledore's Widow has said, possibly he will find out something that the Ministry tries to cover up to hide their inadequacies, that will place others, and maybe more directly, Percy's family, in danger. I think he will need some sort of motivation to do a turn around at this point though.
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I believe that Scrimgeour is a bit nastier than what we have seen so far. JKR lets us know that he is shady, and he is pulling some of Fudge's old tricks, but I think there is more to it. I created a thread that talks about how he may have killed Amelia Bones in order to assure himself the position of Minister.
I believe that Percy is going to find out what happened and then have to make a choice. Perhaps he will be put in a position in which he has to choose sides, choosing between saving a family member or helping Scrimgeour grab more power.
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Percy is probably my least favorite character in the books. His intelligence easily rivals Hermione's but he closed his eyes to what the Ministry was doing and turned his back on his family. We was too smart to not see what Fudge and Umbridge were doing to Harry and Dumbledore. He knows his parents are honest kind hearted people and how he could have turned on Arthur and Molly I will never understand. At times I believe he is almost unredeemable.
Now that being said I think the main theme of the last book will be about redemption as much as it is the down fall of Voldemort. I believe we will see the redemption of Snape and to a lesser degree Petteigrew. I believe we will also see a small redemption in Petunia. I do not look for anything major there maybe just a small moment between her and Harry before he leaves for good. I even look for somthing from Slughorn to redeem himself for telling Voldemort about the horcruxes.
That leaves the Weasleys. I really hope we see Rowling redeem herself for what she has done to the character of Ginny. Hello Razz!! But given the last book I am not holding out hope. With Percy I see him finally realizing he has let his ambition blind him. Love is a powerful force in both life and the Potter books. I have never doubted Percy loves his family. My guess is that we will see a chapter where either Ron or the twins are in danger and Percy will come to his fathers aid to save them. Percy is one of the charcters that I look for Rowling to kill in the last book. His death will be his last step to redemption.
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Vulturemort,
Good plan and yeah, I think Percy will have to make a choice between his ambitions (what is easy) and his family (what is right). Whether or not he'll make the right choice remains to be seen.
He may stay a "Weatherby."
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I can't really see Percy playing a vital role. The most I can say for him is that he will realize he was wrong and apologize to his family and harry. Other then that I think he is too stuborn and proud to do anything else. And not an important enough character to play a vital role in the overall ending.
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QUOTE (gaburdette @ Sep 21 2005, 10:59 AM)
...I think the main theme of the last book will be about redemption as much as it is the down fall of Voldemort. I believe we will see the redemption of Snape and to a lesser degree Petteigrew. I believe we will also see a small redemption in Petunia. I do not look for anything major there maybe just a small moment between her and Harry before he leaves for good. I even look for somthing from Slughorn to redeem himself for telling Voldemort about the horcruxes...Percy is one of the charcters that I look for Rowling to kill in the last book. His death will be his last step to redemption.
One can only hope that these characters will be redeemed. I hope that Percy will be redeemed without dying but if he must die than he must die. I think that him dying would be even harder for Arthur and Molly than if things remained in their current state, however I do hope that they will be reconciled. As for Snape, Pettigrew, Slughorn and Petunia well those are issues for other threads.
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i wanted percy to come through in some act of selflesness in book 6, like some people thought the twins would be kidnapped i was hoping if this were to happen percy would rescue them and harry and co would arrive just in time to watch percy break peter's neck as the other death eaters ran for the hills, but too late to help.
If we know that: A) The sorting hat is never wrong and placed Percy in Griffyndor, B) Slytherin wants those of great ambition while Griffyndor wants those of bravery, & C) Percy has thus far shown the greatest of ambition with little recognizable bravery, then we would have to conclude that Percy would show his true essence of bravery in the 7th book. One would suppose that this bravery will be displayed by a grand act of redemption, although that is not necessarily so. You have to believe that Percy will make his parents proud in the end.
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I think that there is a chance that Percy may get redeemed. I hope that he realizes that he is deserting his family so that he can continue rising in his work. If he keeps that up he may turn into another Crouch Sr. where he puts his family members in jail to keep them from getting in his way.
I think the general idea is that Percy has yet to prove why he was placed in Gryffindor.
However, being a Gryffindor doesn't immediatly make you a good person. Also, being a Slytherin shouldn't immediatly mark you as evil. In the OoTP Percy proved he was brave enogh to turn his back on his family and do the thing he thought was right. Any Gryffindor would behave in such way. But as we're viewing Percy from Harry's POV it's hard not to label Percy as 'evil-should've-been-Malfoy'. We're forgetting that Percy thought he was doing the right thing, he thought he was doing something for his benefit and for the benefit of his family (In the letter sent to Ron he says he hopes that their parents will realize what is right). Therefore, Percy's not evil, he doesn't have to redeem, he just has to realize he was deluded. Percy is not Mr.Malfoy who's only working for his own benefit. Percy was not a Slytherin. Percy is just ambitious and hard-working. He's not cunning and he would never use other people to get what he wants. I'm sure he thinks that's low and immoral.
Perhaps JKR wanted us to see how Gryffindors can use their qualites to get what they want just as Slytherins can and do use theirs.
With Gryffindors, it's all about what they think is right. They're willing to give up everything to do the right thing (in their opinion). The problem is that sometimes what they think is right is, in fact, wrong. Just because they're Gryffindors they don't have to know what's really right. They just have to be brave enough to fight.
Percy has already realized he was wrong. However, the Gryffindor in him is to proud to admit it openly.
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I agree. Something is going to happen with Percy. Whether it be that it is confirmed that he is a "prat" or he redeems himself, i do not know. I would guess it would most likely be the latter. But I know JKR wouldn't just leave things hanging there.
I think Trixie brings up some great points. I think we have looked at it from a point of view of Percy being wrong and not standing up for what he believes in. That is very Gryffindor.
But I still believe that he was presented the truth, disregarded it because he totally believes in the Ministry and that it should be the all knowing force it isn't. On his not opening appologizin or saying they were right, I agree with Trixie that his pride won't let him. I wonder if his pride will continue to cause strife or it will be broken by some incident involving his family (remember GOF with Ron coming out of the lake).
Well, here is my next question (Moderators, If this needs a new thread, please let me know). Wormtail was in Gryffindor and we know he is a coward. One thread mentioned he will redeem himself using his silver hand, possibly killing Greyback. Did Wormtail justify his servantship to LV like Percy jusified his devotion to the Ministry? If he is redeemed, will it be for the same reason as Percy's (again, if Percy is redeemed)?
Will Percy Be Redeemed?, Merged with - What will Percy do?
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