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Here you go then guys - a brand new shiny thread for:-
HARRY/HERMIONE SHIPPERS ONLY.
(I don't think I could have made that any clearer )
I DO NOT want to see any rude, inflammatory or disrespectful posts here from supporters of other ships.
* The VENOM thread for this ship (that is for those who DO NOT support the H/H ship) can be found here.
Please make sure that you read the forums rules as well as the additional ones which apply to the Ships threads here.
The old thread has been archived and may be found here.
Now that I've gotten all THAT outta the way, let's get back to discussing our favorite ship!! As I said at the end of the previous thread, let's not let what's canon be a damper to our imaginations!! And plus, there's always the future to look to...which is when I've always envisioned the H/H ship to blossom
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Look who's back!! (I don't want to add "...and better than ever" though!! Baby steps, I say!!)
To restart our discussion where it left off -- 1) Emma is J.K. Rowling's favorite book and the main characters in Emma mirror Harry (Emma) and Hermione (Mr. Kingsley) and their relationship. If Rowling adheres to Austen's themes of love and romance as presented in Emma, we can rightly expect a Year Seven H/Hr revelation. 2) Does Crookshanks' love of Harry (but hatred of Ron) and Hedwig's affinity for Hermione (with no interactions with Ginny) symbolize the interactions and emotions of their owners? and 3) Harry has never properly reflected on his feelings for Hermione. That is to say, he's always cut-off by someone or something before he can say if there might be more to his friendship with her. What will it take for Harry to realize that he might be in love with Hermione? Most of us said that the two would need to be separated - something that has never happened during the true "action" sequence of the books.
And if none of that made any sense, I'll come back here and rewrite it. I'm dead on my feet this morning, having stayed up all night writing an English paper!
To restart our discussion where it left off -- 1) Emma is J.K. Rowling's favorite book and the main characters in Emma mirror Harry (Emma) and Hermione (Mr. Kingsley) and their relationship. If Rowling adheres to Austen's themes of love and romance as presented in Emma, we can rightly expect a Year Seven H/Hr revelation. 2) Does Crookshanks' love of Harry (but hatred of Ron) and Hedwig's affinity for Hermione (with no interactions with Ginny) symbolize the interactions and emotions of their owners? and 3) Harry has never properly reflected on his feelings for Hermione. That is to say, he's always cut-off by someone or something before he can say if there might be more to his friendship with her. What will it take for Harry to realize that he might be in love with Hermione? Most of us said that the two would need to be separated - something that has never happened during the true "action" sequence of the books.
And if none of that made any sense, I'll come back here and rewrite it. I'm dead on my feet this morning, having stayed up all night writing an English paper!
Re: #2: I never really looked at it this way. That Crookshanks and Hedwig being symbolizing the interactions and emotions of their owners. Interesting. Funny too, how Crookshanks seems to like Harry but not Ron. i wonder why that is?
Re: #3: I don't think that Harry and Hermione need to be separated in order for Harry to realize his feelings for her. What I do think is that she will have to be in grave danger. In OotP Harry was quite distraught over the possiblity of Hermione being dead (until Neville found a pulse). Many non-believers say that it was just because of guilt. That Harry thought he had placed her (and the others) at great risk by having them accompany him to the DOM. I, like many other Harmonians, think that this was a moment of truth. That he felt more than just guilt. He was almost hysterical and beside himself just thinking that he had lost Hermione. This to me, is more than guilt. However, we find Harry promptly forgetting the entire incident (as well as Sirius' death) in HBP. Why? I suppose it's because that's the way JKR wrote it. Or, it could be that she is throwing out a lot of red herring at us! But, I do think that Harry will have a revealation as to how he feels about Hermione when she is taken from him and held as 'bait' to lure Harry. This is just my thought. The hero going out to get his heroine back always makes for a great movie plot. Let's hope JKR thinks it'll make a good plot for her final book!
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"The hidden Harmony is better than the obvious." --- Heraclitus (6th Century B.C.)
I still need to reread tha archived thread but I wanted to comment and say hello. No matter what anyone tells you, H/Hr has the best symbolism referring to their relationship than any other book I have ever read. That and that alone should make you all proud if you were able to see it.
1) Emma is not the only book where she flips the gender roles for her own. Rowling also stated that her favorite book and the biggest inspiration for the HP series is The Little White Horse. I will check that one out soon after I finish my slow reread of PoA.
2) Someone did a short essay about that on Portkey and it cannot be ignored. Also, note the two flashy birds Sirius sent messages by Harry that Hedwig did not like. Who could those birds (British slang for girl or woman) be foreshadowing? Hmmm?
3) If the first book gives clues to the last one and reflects like a mirror, the boys could separate themselves from Hermione on purpose leading to her having to rescue them. It could be after that adventure that Harry gets a clue. Here is to hoping Rowling dumbed Harry down for a good reason in HBP...LOL!
Okay, it scared me a little when I saw version 4, but it's all better now. I don't even remember what I said before this was archived. Oh well!! ~!HermionePotter06!~
May I make a request? If people are going to post other people's essays on here, you should give the link to it and maybe the author's name. That way the author gets credit for it and we can see it from the original site. It is hard for me to read long essays in the forums (poor eyesight).
A word of caution for those into The Draco Trilogy--she will break H/Hr up in her last chapter and is not a H/Hr shipper...she prefers slash. Personally, after reading her blog and some stuff she posted at other sites, I think she is full of it.
May I make a request? If people are going to post other people's essays on here, you should give the link to it and maybe the author's name. That way the author gets credit for it and we can see it from the original site. It is hard for me to read long essays in the forums (poor eyesight).
No problem, Nymphe. By the way, I've seen several of your great posts on Portkey! You're really a heartening force when so many of the H/Hr shippers there seem so resigned to the notion that H/Hr is a strictly fanon ship. I think it still has potential for Book Seven, especially when one considers 1) the overall horrible-ness of OBHWF as portrayed in HBP, 2) the fact that Harry and Hermione really flirted for the first time in that book, 3) the fact that Harry was - for some vague reason - uncomfortable about his best friends' interest in each other, and 4) the fact that Rowling greatly admires Austen's work in Emma...a book that screams HARRY/HERMIONE (to us, anyway )
Um, to everyone who's read my fan fiction, I have a really pathetic request. Could you sign my member map? I'm really curious to see where everyone who reads my fan fic comes from and it just takes a minute. If you'd like me to put up the information for you, just tell me approx. where you live (like Southeastern United States or Malaysia or wherever). If you don't want to, that's cool, but I thought I'd ask http://my.execpc.com/12/E2/mitt124/mitt124...ember%20Map.htm
ETA: Thanks Nymphe, Lupin123, and Vicky for signing in I've only had the thing about an hour and I've already had about eight other people sign in, which is cool but it makes me wonder how many people come through my website everyday!
Hai, Very glad to meet you all in a fresh thread.I have nothing to tell except H/Hr for ever. See you soon. Hai Herminia, Your guest map idea is very interesting. I have seen the thread created by you in HMS Harmony. Do you want to figure out H/Hr shippers as nation wide? Very interesting but I could not sign in it. Already my name has been included. Can't understand. Any how I like your idea very much. I have not read your fiction yet. Hope to read it today.
Hai Herminia, Your guest map idea is very interesting. I have seen the thread created by you in HMS Harmony. Do you want to figure out H/Hr shippers as nation wide? Very interesting but I could not sign in it. Already my name has been included. Can't understand. Any how I like your idea very much. I have not read your fiction yet. Hope to read it today.
Where has your name already been added? The GuestMap or HMS Harmony?
The thread in HMS Harmony is to find out about where people live who ship H/Hr. A few other shippers and I thought that most R/Hr-H/G shippers came from countries like America, Britain, and Australia (who speak English as their native language) and more H/Hr shippers came from countries where English was not the first language they learned. So far, we don't have enough people participating to say whether this is true or not
Hai Herminia, I think that I confused you a little. I tried to sign in your guest map but I could not. I don't know why. But you told in your earlier post that myself,Nymphe and vicky have signed in. So I confused, anyway, count me as a H/Hr shipper from India .
By the way, I completed Chapter 19 part one and eagerly waiting for part two. When are you going to post the one-shot stories? Please update soon. The H/Hr pictures in your website are so good and your new avatar is excellent. Cute H/Hr moments.
Now I am reading Pride and Prejudice and if I find anything special relating to HP I will share it with you. In Portkey, people are wondering about the character resemblence of Harry and emma,Hermione and Mr.Knightley,Ginny and Frank Churchill and Ron and Harriet. I think we can include that Luna and Mr.Martin.
Thank you, Herminia. Regardless of what people may think, Rowling wrote an intense connection through foreshadowing, symbolism, and character interaction between Harry and Hermione--including opening that door in the DoM. All that interview did was to discourage and distract the fandom. Right now, people are confused about Pensieve moments because of her interviews. Also, keep in mind that even though she said the Sorting Hat was not a Horcrux, that does not mean it was not tampered with.
I am nearly done with a reread of PoA, and, wow, I give Rowling mass credit for using "anvils" to knock us away from the real deal. Is anyone up for a six-book analysis of the various relationships? That way, you can see all of the wonderful symbolism and hints she wove into her tale.
Oooh! I understand. I do not know why you could not sign, but when I saw someone sign in for India right after I posted the message here, I assumed it was you!
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By the way, I completed Chapter 19 part one and eagerly waiting for part two. When are you going to post the one-shot stories? Please update soon. The H/Hr pictures in your website are so good and your new avatar is excellent. Cute H/Hr moments.
Thanks. I made the avatar while I was bored yesterday. The one-shots should be up as soon as they are done.
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Thank you, Herminia. Regardless of what people may think, Rowling wrote an intense connection through foreshadowing, symbolism, and character interaction between Harry and Hermione--including opening that door in the DoM. All that interview did was to discourage and distract the fandom. Right now, people are confused about Pensieve moments because of her interviews. Also, keep in mind that even though she said the Sorting Hat was not a Horcrux, that does not mean it was not tampered with.
I still cannot believe that she would be so upfront talking about the ships if those were truly the ships to end all ships. The Interview almost makes me think that she wants to throw us off-course and that the real shocker IS a romantic switch-up in the next book.
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im intending that harry and hermione get together their relationship is so sweet hermione cares so much for harry she hugs him and loves him im sure and hopefully they'll get together some day
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Why does everything happen to me (harry)
house:Gryffindor school: hogwarts bestfriend: Ginny character:Harry potter Job: international quidditch seeker marauder:james animagus:deer teacher:hagrid boyfriend: harry potter Patronus:stag
I still cannot believe that she would be so upfront talking about the ships if those were truly the ships to end all ships. The Interview almost makes me think that she wants to throw us off-course and that the real shocker IS a romantic switch-up in the next book.
Oh, she is going to throw everyone for a loop in the last book, and ticked off those with high expectations for the obvious. I plan to spend a day or two alone with HPO (I call the last book HPO because the title will have an object in it, following the patterns of PS/SS and GoF--first, middle, last) and my computer so I can watch the fandom go
BOOM!
I would not be surprised if we hear about destroyed or returned books. I so hope Rowling writes a series for adults to make it even more challenging.
If we're right in the end, I think we'd have ample grounds for some major gloating after what happened to us in the aftermath of HBP! Oh, I dearly hope we're proved right in the end, and every time I go online and look at theories or re-read HBP, I do see more clues that R/Hr and H/G just aren't MEANT to last.
Harry / Hermione - Thread 4, SUPPORTERS ONLY
Feb 8 2006, 05:10 AM
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As I said at the end of the previous thread, let's not let what's canon be a damper to our imaginations!! And plus, there's always the future to look to...which is when I've always envisioned the H/H ship to blossom 
Thanks ashleigh07! 
Where has your name already been added? The GuestMap or HMS Harmony? 
