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Hey! Wow its been a long time since i've been on this site. I thought my first post since being back should be on my house's thread.......
Lots of stuff has happened since i've been gone....movie #5 and book #7.......
Now i'm kind of lost by this whole superpower thing isn't there more harry potter related topics out there i mean it kind of seems the harry potter talks are becoming less creative and less relevant lol
it kind of seems the harry potter talks are becoming less creative and less relevant lol
I dont think that's strictly true.. Maybe Its because you've been away- I assure you, there are plenty of Harry Potter related discussions taking place! I think.. the superpower question was probably asked in relation to the discussions about the Ravenclaw characteristics that will inevitably take place on a Ravenclaw thread! The superpowers that Ravenclaws would have are linked very much with their personalities, skills, and characteristics!!
A.T.B.- I agree that a power to do with the power of the mind would be suitable.. but surely the mastery of any skill, or superpower, requires a huge amount of mental and psycological strength and control. Though, I do agree that some form of telepathy and telekinesis would be good for Ravenclaws- It would also have to be something that required time to learn.. but also came naturally for them- an equilibreum of the two.
it kind of seems the harry potter talks are becoming less creative and less relevant
I know this will sound snippy in type, but please understand I have no ill intent. Do you have something else you wish to discuss? I really have been trying to think of a new topic. Sadly, I have been unable to get math out of my head.
Well, here is an idea, why is it that the role of Ravenclaw was downplayed in the movies? Yes, they mention that certain characters are Ravenclaws, but I never get the feeling that the Ravenclaws accomplish anything. By and large, they are ignored. Why?
RAVENCLAWS!!!....gives hugs and handshakes... It's so good to be here, I've been gone for awhile....wow, I've really missed all ya'll. Now to answer the previous question, " The Boy Who Lived", was sorted in to the house of G. The hat trully wanted Harry in the house of S., but Harry was able to convince the hat the house of S. was truly the only house he didn't want to go to. So the next logical house for Harry would be the house of G. Mainly because having lived with Muggles for his life,up to that point anyway, the hat knowing how brave and courageous he must be to challenge the first decision of the hat, maybe noone even Lord V., had ever done it.
The students Harry, Hermoine, & Ron, the ones they had problems with were mainly from the house of S. There were a few from the house of H., but only 1 from the house of R., Cho's homegirl. They really never had a problem with Cho, or did they? Hmm....as Ravenclaws, we like to scope the scene, take as much as we can in before steping in, standing up, etc...So knowing this, it's only logical that the Ravenclaw's who did act didn't really start showing themselves until book 5. Make sence? I'm a true Ravenclaw, it's just the way my beautiful mind works.Osz...discussing charms with Professor Flitwick..
Though the house of Ravenclaw seemed not mention usually in the movie, but do take note that in the fifth movie, there was Luna and Cho who were both Ravenclaws. Maybe their time to really shine is in the final movie, the diadem thing and of Flitwicks battle against Snape and the entire duelling with the other death eaters.
Superpowers, isn’t having magic enough? Hehe I think that the Ravenclaws’ powers maybe associated with mind. They can use magic without a wand if they really concentrate. This usually happened when a wizard or witch is in a life threatening situations, so I think that if they practice, it could be possible not to always use their wands.
Yep... maybe having superpowers is enough.. but what I find more interesting is the process at which people arrive at the superpower.. basically.. being ravenclaws, most of you have gone for a superpower that uses Ravenclaws' brains.. this is the most logical thing to do- using their strongest points.. where as say.. in Gryffidor and hufflepuff they probably would have picked superpowers that come more from the 'heart', and less from the head. So yes.. I would say magic is enough, since every superpower that we've come up with could be achieved through magic.. its just interesting to see why people pick certain superpowers!!
And while we're on the subject of using logic (loose connection.. I know...) the new WAW-created Site is up Here.. If anybody wants to take a look!
Good point annesches, but I see superpowers as a completely different level than magic. If you think about it, Parseltongue is like a superpower that some possesed who still were wizards.
Well, here is an idea, why is it that the role of Ravenclaw was downplayed in the movies? Yes, they mention that certain characters are Ravenclaws, but I never get the feeling that the Ravenclaws accomplish anything. By and large, they are ignored. Why?
Thanks for another question Darron, things are somewhat slow lately.
I would imagine that because of time constraints in the movies, the directors and screenplay writers find the main plot points to be most important, and the rest is somewhat cast aside for the smaller things. It is a dissapointment because Ravenclaws certainly have a lot to offer, but I understand why the more prominent parts of the story come first.
I will say that in the upcoming (wayy upcoming) DH movie, I will be severely dissapointed if we don't get a peak into the Ravenclaw common room.
As a Ravenclaw, the most logical super power would be the use of magik without wands. Think about it, if you discovered you didn't need a wand, the posibilities would be almiost endless. I know as a witch or wizard magik should be enough, but you see, this is the Ravenclaw mind @ work. Everyone seems to be down on Cho. Why? Cho's choice of friends, ok, best friend was her only mistake(if we follow the book). Cho was 1 year ahead of Harry, the "green monster" which consumed her because of Harry and Hermonies' friendship doesn't make her a bad person. She just didn't understand, Hermionie knew, but Harry had not a clue. Hey ladies, sometimes as, boys, young men, and, men we just don't see it or quite frankly understand. Cut us a little slack would you,......please.
Cho is a great Ravenclaw. JKR never goes into Cho's character as a witch, but I'll bet she was exceptionly hard working, and a powerful witch, we just never get to see it. Harry was destined to be with someone else when he was born.
I don't think Cho is a bad person. But I see her like one of those shallow people who have tons of boyfriends just because they look good enough for her and because she's popular enough to appear with them. I mean she couldn't have loved Harry, she didn't even know him! She only saw him on the quidditch field and between classes. That's why I think she's shallow. And I didn't even mention the fact that she's emotionally infantile. However, that is not her fault, and probably she will come over it. Her having hard times makes this even more difficult. To her loving someone means to have perfect little pink dates with him at Madam Puddifoot's and not to know and appreciate the person himself. But, her having friends like Marietta shows exactly this shallowness. She didn't care about her friends' true qualities, she just hung out with them because they probably contributed to her being popular or maybe because they appreciated her in some way.(probably they told her her hair was good or something ok, ok, I'll stop, I'm not that mean... at least, not very often ) But I'm sure in time, she will mature.
As to Ravenclaws' absence in the films, I think the directors probably had a very difficult time even at putting in the whole complicated storyline and making it easier to understand.
I had another question, but I forgot it during the writing of my reply stupid and proud of it... Now that's not very ravenclawish, is it? See you everyone.
Oh, I just remembered what my question was! I'd like to know if you remember JK Rowling saying something in the books about gryffindors having classes with Ravenclaw. I only remember Hufflepuff and Slytherin. Do they have classes with ravenclaws too? I don't remember it being in the books. (however, I'm two books behind so forgive me if I don't remember something from the HBP or DH)
At the very least, the classes were combined at the NEWT level. There were four Ravenclaws in Slughorn's Potions class in Half-Blood Prince.
I remember Ravenclaws being in other classes, but I don't remember which ones specifically. I would need to check the books, but I do not have time right now.
By the way I didn't take your comment as snippy After the Burial
As for your question about why ravenclaws were downplayed in the movies, well I think its because they have been downplayed in the books somewhat. I think JK has been saving the Ravenclaws for the last books to show their importance. Also, she has more influence on the movies than Warner Bros. probably wants to let on.
As for the recent topic: Yeah I agree the classes are probably combined at NEWT level considering some classes are extremely hard to place into. I can't recall ravenclaws and gryffindors having classes together either besides that.
Hey people it's good to be back! It's been a really long time since I was on this thread and I didn't mean for it to be. I've just been so busy with school and life, and there's only so many threads you can answer to in a day and for some reason I've taken a liking to fan fictions. Well I suppose that's enough about why I haven't been here for a while. Now to answer the latest question TeeHee.
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I'd like to know if you remember JK Rowling saying something in the books about gryffindors having classes with Ravenclaw. I only remember Hufflepuff and Slytherin. Do they have classes with ravenclaws too?
Ok well as it has already been said before, in HBP there were a couple Ravenclaws in Potions with Slughorn. That's because of the NEWT difficulty and I think that, being the smart Ravenclaws that we are, we understand why that is.
Now I'm not quite sure what other classes have been mentioned that Harry has had with the Ravenclaws. Though I believe that I may have read before about Transfiguration with them? Perhaps I am wrong, I am just testing my memory.
I often wonder why Ravenclaws aren't mentioned much, which brings me back to the previous question, surprisingly, because I wasn't intending to head in that direction. I believe that perhaps there were too many main and secondary characters with the other 3 houses, Gryffindor (Harry,Hermione,Weasley's, and even the rest of the house who are the protagonists), Slytherin (Malfoy and his cronies, which would be like secondary antagonists) and Hufflepuff, where Ernie Macmillan, Zacharias Smith, Hannah Abbott and even Susan Bones were mentioned frequently. Now with all these characters, plus the adults, I believe that there would be too many to keep track of if JKR included a bunch of Ravenclaws. Though with Roger Davies, Cho Chang, Luna Lovegood and a couple others, she managed to keep the Ravenclaws in the picture.
I find that the time when Ravenclaws are most mentioned, are between books 5-7. And of course Rowena Ravenclaw and the Grey Lady are mentioned and disussed more for the first time in book 7. Whereas, Gryffindor, Slytherin, and yes even Hufflepuff, their founders have been discussed throughout the series.
Now I think I may have made up with my missed time with some thoughful answers. Hopefully now I'll be able to keep up with the topics. Best Wishes!
Ravenclaws in classes- I guess they must share some classes, but generally, Gryffindors shared classes with the Slytherins- so therefore Ravenclaw must have been with Hufflepuff. There may have been a few with G and H, and at these times, S with R. It is possible that for the 'core' subjects, G and R don't share any classes. As for NEWT level, because so many people leave after OWLs, the classes would be tiny if they didn’t all mix. (Please excuse the abbreviations)
And Ravenclaws not being mentioned that much... I don't think they ever got the recognition that they deserved. I think its clear that Jo placed 'bravery' above intelligence and ambition, that much is clear throughout every one of the books apart from Luna, pretty much every Ravenclaw that has been mentioned has later been abandoned or found not worthy- for example Cho. Even in the epilogue Luna was exempt, I don’t think she was mentioned at all, although characters like Fleur's sister were..Hm... Actually, now that I think about it, the diadem- Rowena Ravenclaws daughter was dishonest and selfish, and Ravenclaw's weren't exactly looked on in a great light. Not that I’m digging at the author, of course, its just that Ravenclaws, along with slytherins, have never really been given that recognition an appreciation that they deserved.
Now.. This isn't really related... but the sorting hat- I was thinking about the balance of numbers of students in each house, don't ask why... and wondered if one year, there were lots of people who would be sorted into Gryffindor, would the hat sort them all there, or would it adjust, to keep the balance of numbers correct. Ok.. Might be a bit of a tedious question, but umm... it gives more insight into the way the hat works...?
Your question makes a lot of sense. Since I'm not J.K. Rowling, I don't know. But I think (this is a guess) that the sorting hat puts you in the house best suited for their personality. But, like Harry, it may give the student some say. It may also choose the personality that the student thinks the most of in themselves. That may explain why Hermione, the biggest know-it-all, is in gryffindor. Now, again, that's a guess, and way that sounds nice to me. It may work in an entirely different way.
This post has been edited by Pixymajik: Nov 7 2007, 12:04 PM
The Ravenclaw House Thread
Oct 17 2007, 06:06 PM
ok, ok, I'll stop, I'm not that mean... at least, not very often 
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Now that's not very ravenclawish, is it? 
