I was thinking about subliminal messages one day, and I found this website that is an extention of a blog, and its made by this dude named Jeff Milner, and he downloaded this software off the internet, and played songs backwards, and found hidden messages in them.

the website is: http://jeffmilner.com/backmasking.htm

WARNING: Some of the songs backwards scared me, mostly because I am a crybaby, and I was home alone, and all the lights were off. If you think you might be freaked out forever, do not click on the link above. I repeat, I am a crybaby, so you probably wont think the same as me, and there is no explicit content in any of the songs, and some of them are actually funny.

Other uses for this thread are: to discuss why songwriters/singers use odd messages in their songs, and to discuss how they came up with the idea to use subliminal messages, and how they actually did it (but that one is easy)

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yes..i did reverse pink floyd the wall on my computer a few years ago...i could only make out "congratulations..you have found the secret message"...obviously they figured someone would try to play it backwards and they decided to humour them...

lol! Some were VERY scary. But others were very funny. The Pokemon sounded like it was in japanese. But then Revolution 9 was a pretty freaky song when its played forward...

My Word! This comes up every few years, doesn't it? Back when I was a lad, it was bands like Styx (named after the river you cross to get to the land of the dead... Oooooohhh!), Iron Maiden (maybe a bit heavier, but still quite litterary...Don't know too many bands who quote Tolstoy and Poe...), and pretty well any band that was considered "counter culture", and even some that weren't, see Styx above...

I even recall a tape being circulated along with some pamphlet outlining what it was we were supposed to hear, with great ramblings about how these bands were all Satanists looking to prey on the innocent minds of music lovers. It was really quite pathetic and rather amusing.

I will agree that it's often freaky to hear songs played backwards, simply because the sounds come off as being so unnatural and "weird". Lots of sound engineer in movies use this to create their creepy sounds, sometimes just mixing a bunch of these bacwards sounds to make something really strange. Ultimately, it's all down to your brain trying to interpret what it hears and make sense of it. Cas ein pint, if I listened to some songs backwards, I may come up with completely different "messages" than you, simply because I have a different linguistic frame of reference (French is my mother tongue). It reminds me of something I read somewhere: did you know that when you read a text, as long as the first and last letters of words are correct, the rest of the letters can be in amy order and your brain will still recognize the words?

I'm always amazed at tha way the brain works to make sense out of gibberish, either audio or visual. Makes you wonder about those people getting message from white noise too...

OH MY GOSH! IT IS SO SCARY!!!! The 'Kiss, kiss, kiss' person said he (or is it she) shot John Lennon! It is so scary!!! But the eminem thing is just so cool!

Kiss Kiss Kiss was sang by Yoko Ono, who married John Lennon, sang that song. It creeped me out really bad, and I actually started to cry, but if you dont look at the lyrics when you hear it, it doesnt really sound like it says that. I really liked the eminem one, though. It was cool. The Weird Al one was hilarious. "Satan eats Cheez Whiz" oooh...so scary.....lol.



yeah, when I was listening to the pokemon thing, it sounded funny. My dad reckoned that Revolution 9 had subliminal messages in it beforehand, but it didnt make sense to me. "turn me on dead man"? okay....

Wow! That is scary! I can't believe that John Lennon's wife's song backwards says "I shot John Lennon". That freaked me out.
Also, I can't believe the Queen song, I'm going to have to tell my music teacher that one, she was letting us sing and dance to it in music!
The Beatles song was scary because Paul from the Beatles is still alive, does this mean he'll be next to die or last?

I love this new site,
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that was creepy, but also kinda funny especially the britney spears one.

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That backmasking thing had become an issue here in my country. Famous singers were involved. It is really scary that's why I didn't dare to go to that website...

That's well odd! I wonder if these words were deliberately put in by the creators. Somewhat, i did feel the urge to worship satan after listening to the pokemon rap... J/k.

I just read a post below, John Lennon's wife sung a song that read 'I shot john lennon' backwards? I think that was either an extrwemely coincidental mistake, or a sick joke.

AHHHHH!!!

*breath, breath, breath*

oh my gosh! some of those scared me badly! some of them sounded like they were put in purposely...

hahahahah that britney spears one was weird and funny, hahaha!

wait that last one, Fire on High...that one sounded like it was put in purposely...it sounds like what something would sound forward...freaky.

Me too

The 'Paul is a dead man' one (I'm so tired - by the Beatles) - hasn't that one been used in the many, many theories that Paul McCartney is actually really dead and that they got a lookie-likey to replace him (I'm not entirely sure of the details but I know that the theories are out there)

Thanks for the link, it was so interesting to listen to them -

I loved the Wierd Al one ("Satan eats Cheez Whiz") - I think some of his song are so funny (specifically, 'The Night Santa went Crazy' )

Oh my gosh, "Paul is a dead man" was really freaky And so was "I shot John Lennon" and Fire on High... gosh, that one freaked we really out, just hear his voice! That was the only one I understood without reading the text... gosh, I'm still frightened over here... *shivers*

I've heard 'Another One Bites The Dust' backwards before in Kanas, and whenever I hear the song forward, I get so freaked out. And I always like that song!

i just found this song on YouTube, The Ghost of You by My Chemical Romance, and it is played backwards. it has a hidden song. just thought i'd share it with you, and it is the whole song

heres the video...

Wow, that's so cool, though freaky at the same time! I really liked that song.. it was hard to hear what the text was, but it worked.. And I did like it.. this is really really cool.. Thanks for sharing the song with us, Fall out Girl!

There were rumors once that Paul was dead -- the Beatles made fun of it a lot. One album cover had a picture of them dressed up like it was Paul's funeral. If you listen to the Beatles song A Day in the Life, there is some gibberish at the end and if you play the record backwards it supposedly says Paul is dead. If you turn the volume way up at the end of Strawberry Feilds Forever, it allso says Paul is dead. Well, according to my dad at least.(Note to self -- by a record player and see if that really works )

Edit: At the end of Strawberry Feilds it says "Cranberry sauce, my mother made it for me". Some people thought that it said 'I buried Paul' but that wouldn't make sense.

whoa, its been a long time since anybody saw this thread....i'd forgotten all about it.... A couple months back, I was at a friend's house, and we were on the computer, and i was showing her this site, and we were spazzing out, and we thought we were talking to john lennon.....it was hilarious....

Wow, that was freaky...I have read something about reversed words and all but Led Zeppelin had said when they were first accused for that that if they were to put reversed messages in their songs they would put words like "Buy more of our CDs". Well..."Oh here's my sweet...' does not aound like it was not on purpose. It is really clear. God, that scared me so much. Also, Fire on High (Elo) wow....that was really scary...as Break on through and of course, Hotel California. I always believed Hotel California must have had a secret message and now, i see that i was true.... Actually, there is an episode on Simpsons where Bart gets in a band and have a song that becomes a hit and in the end his sister (don't remember her name) finds out it has a secret message "Go to the army" or something. Hilarious.

I just finished a unit on subliminal messages in music in my cognitive psychology class, so it's a topic that's very close to my heart right now!

People keep pointing out the Hotel California example... fact is, whenever you say "yes" followed by a consonant sound, it plays backwards something like "Satan." Try it in Audacity or some similar music editing program if you don't believe it. I didn't understand how that could work, so I recorded my own voice and all I can say is that it's true. Makes for a lot of music with subliminal messages about the devil, eh?? But going back to that specific example, more to the point....

"I was thinking to myself
This could be Heaven, this could be Hell,
Then she lit up a candle
And she showed me the way.
There were voices down the corridor,
Thought I heard them say...."

Reversed is....

"Yeah Satan, he organized,
Oh, he organized his own religion.
Yeah, when he knows she should,
How nice -- it was delicious,
He puts it in a vat, he fixes it
For his son which he gives away."

The question there is... what the heck could this possibly mean?? It means nothing! If The Eagles felt like putting Satanic messages in their music, odds are the messages would actually make sense. Why would they be subtle about their subliminal backmasking if they were willing to put what they put in the forwards version so explicitly?

That said, there are a few examples on that page where I think the artist probably did write the bidirectional lyrics with intention, and those are the Beatles songs about Paul being dead (because they put similar subliminal messages in multiple songs, on album covers, etc.) and the drug references in "Another One Bites the Dust" (mostly since the words aren't very clear in the forwards direction, which suggests they spent some time testing out different articulations to make it work).

What my psych professor told my class is that the supposed subliminal messages in music are an example of top-down mental processes, meaning that you have certain expectations when you listen to the song and your mind conforms to reconcile your expectations with the reality. When you hear the clip without seeing the words that you're supposed to hear spelled out in front of you (i.e., no conscious awareness that the sounds have meaning), the whole things sounds like a mess of gibberish. Only when you are shown what you're supposed to hear does your mind separate the gibberish into discrete bytes that actually make some sense in natural speech (English). So basically, since your brain wants to make sense of nonsense so badly, you wind up tricking yourself into hearing things that nobody (the artist, the devil, whoever you think is responsible) really intended to put there at all.

Well, it works for me, anyway!

I havent yet, but scanning what you all wrote I'm not sure I want to. I'm really slow in the music world, so I have no idea what songs you guys are talking about.

I think its crazy that people put subliminal messages in their songs. I mean, wouldnt it take just too much time to make backwards messages make sense out of frontwards messages and still have the frontwards messages make sense? I think its really creepy that some people do that. But is it real? i mean, do these people actually put these backwards messages in on purpose? I think some people may, but most people dont. i think everything about it is just wierd. I mean, like i said, how can you have the backwards song make sense, and still have the regular song make sense? I think that would take just way to much time. How do these people do it anyway? I think its absolutely crazy.

Woah, that's cool! I love the Queen one! It's fun to smoke marijuana

Woah, that's cool! I love the Queen one! ♪ It's fun to smoke marijuana....

Haha, I like the Stairway To Heaven one too. I love that Led Zep song, and the reverse is just as good as the original!!

Omg I was about to make thread of this! Anyway, the only song I've heard backwards, was Stairway to Heaven, byt Led Zeppelin

No I don't think subliminal messages are there by coincidence...

I've heard Epiphany , from Sweeney Todd played backwards, and it is freaky. Have you heard the regular version? Yeah, great song, but when it's backwards...*shudders*, it's creepy. That's why I love it.

I've heard "Another One Bites the Dust" by Queen back masked...... I'm pretty sure that is all though...... maybe I've heard some other ones but nothing sticks out right now...... who knows?????

Subliminal messages are so freaky. I've heard quite a few and nearly all of them include 'satan'...
Youtube's packed with loadssssss of subliminal messages. :/ Loads of them are by Rihanna, and uploaded by people trying to prove that she's 'satanic'...


I think that explains it.