Field Marshal
May 8 2006, 06:37 PM
So who is more powerful? Sauron or Lord Voldemort?
In my opinion it has to be Sauron easily. Sauron is a maiar who is older than the Universe, was Morgoth's Chief Lieutenant in the First Age and forged the One Ring in Mount Doom. Voldemort is a man (who has only achieved temporarly immortality by using horcruxes).
Sauron is more powerful!
Severus_Snape
May 10 2006, 12:14 AM
Yeah it would definitly be Sauron. Voldemort is only human while Sauron is maia
Salazaar
Jun 10 2006, 06:03 AM
Sauron is definately more powerful, he eluded the high elves and also regular elves for many ages after the fall of Morgoth and his armies. Then he raised an army from scratch and drove most of the elves from middle earth.
Voldemort killed a bunch of defenseless muggles.
luna features
Jul 1 2006, 01:55 PM
Yes, I would definately say that Sauron was far stronger than Voldemort! Voldemort is mainly focused on becoming omnipotent, whereas Sauron is almost obsessed with controlling the whole of middle earth and was so close to wiping out all creatures living!
Aslan
Jul 17 2006, 02:56 PM
They are, like Dumbledore and Gandalf, incomparable since they are in two different worlds, two different times and two different settings.
NickHilton
Jul 17 2006, 03:17 PM
Well they had some strange parralell fiction, one on one, then Sauron would win. But like Aslan said they are incomparable, to good books, to fantastic villains, but within they're surroundings they are equally powerful. Sauron may seem powerful but he's up against people who are also very powerful, and of a higher power standard than the people in Harry Potter. It is impossible to judge equivilence because there is no set ratio, but i guess if we're just saying that they have a good ol' one on one, then Sauron is more powerul.
Nick
dr_pepper75p
Jul 17 2006, 03:29 PM
silly qurestion.
souron is so much harder than voldemort, and he is a shape shifter.
however souron would absolutely batter voldemort haha
you could'nt completely kill the valar without a grest deal of strength
james pickles
Jul 20 2006, 11:17 PM
Sauron is more powerful than Voldemort. But Voldemort comes from this world and is human...I think. Sauron is from a different world...and time for that matter. But let's not forget what Voldemort can do. We don't really know who would win in a fight.
Mistress of Magic
Jul 23 2006, 06:17 PM
I'm sorry Voldemort. Sauron would slaughter you.
Sauron is a God in humanoid form. Voldemort is just a man. A hugely powerful man, but just a man.
I love both series, but I like Harry Potter more. Unfortunately, Voldemort is no match for Sauron.
darknessdolly
Jul 26 2006, 06:59 PM
See, I was wondering when someone would ask this question....the Darth Vader one was not really a good direct comparison but Sauron and Voldy that is a great one!
Oh and of course the answer is Sauron...I mean he has entire races of people fighting for him, in many corners of his world.
Voldy seems to have just a few desperate schemers on his side and is only able to terrorize the relatively small population of witches and wizards in the European region.
El Barto
Jul 28 2006, 04:32 AM
I agree with everyone in saying that Sauron would win. However, Isildor (sp?), managed to chop his hand off (is that how it went? or was it just the finger?) and had the chance to ultimatley defeat him forever, but failed because the ring's power was too strong for him. Would Voldemort, if he did the same or somehow got ahold of the ring, be able to overcome that power and toss it into Mount Doom? I think Gandalf wouldn't let Voldemort near the ring at all, because in a sense, Voldemort seems to be more like Saruman but not as powerful of course. So, if Gandalf doesn't trust Saruman, then I don't think he'd trust Voldemort with the ring. Voldemort would probably wind up joining forces with him, possessed by the ring, or perhaps he'd hold onto it and become like Gollum.
But, if it were both in their prime (when Sauron was walking around), and Voldemort before he attacked the Potters, then I think Sauron would win.
LosersLurgy
Aug 1 2006, 04:15 PM
I think Voldy is simply because of the Horcruxes, which Souaron would have to track down........
james pickles
Aug 1 2006, 06:20 PM
I do think Sauron is more powerful, but Sauron was destroyed by a mere hobbit, so what is to say that a wizard who could just say diffindo to Saurons finger and chop the ring off and then apparate to mount doom and just toss the ring in the fire couldn't defeat him. But I still think Sauron is more powerful.
Field Marshal
Aug 1 2006, 09:45 PM
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I think Voldy is simply because of the Horcruxes, which Souaron would have to track down........

Sauron is a Maia (a minor god). Voldie doesn't stand a chance.
[Mod Edit]Hi Field, nice to see back.

Please elaborate in your posts, thanks.
Spencer Potter
Aug 1 2006, 09:56 PM
Haha, Voldemort doesnt stand a chance, hes only human, Sauron will destroy him with a flick of a finger, even then, he'll be dead before he even starts.
Hermione_Resilda
Aug 1 2006, 10:08 PM
I don't really know. I've only seen the Lord of the Rings films, and always thought that Sauron was just like Voldemort, a wizard.
But from what I do know from him, I guess Voldemort would lose, if he's a minor God.
True, he would have to find the Horcruxes first, right? And they probably have all sorts of secret codes and stuff, or is Sauron too powerful for that?
Our poor Voldy...looks like his Death Eater's would fleet away from him.
james pickles
Aug 2 2006, 12:02 AM
Field Marshal can you stop commenting on everyone's posts please, if someone says something you go, nope that is wrong, this is right. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and if they say something you disagree with you go, no you are wrong, this character is better because... There is no proof what character is better, it is a matter of opinion which everyone has an equal right to say without being jumped on all the time. Please can you stop it with the politest of asking. Thanks
Field Marshal
Aug 2 2006, 10:32 AM
James, this is a debate poll. People are allowed to comment on people's other posts in this poll.
Triad
Aug 2 2006, 11:08 AM
That's true Field Marshal and you have been around long enough to know that short posts are not allowed. As James said, everyone has their own opinions and it's not your place, Field Marshal, to say what is right or wrong. Now keep this topic on track or I will take steps to ensure you both don't have a chance to reply.
On a side note: I personally think these topics are a waste of time since half the time some people won't listen to anothers opinion.
But since I'm here I'll add my two cents in about the comparisons. I believe that Voldemort would be able to defeat Sauron simply because Sauron was an eye. Voldemort has taken steps to avoid death and as such is practically immortal and since no-one can become greater then him, Dumbledore doesn't count, there is no possible way Sauron could defeat him. And once again we come to the fact that they're in different worlds, have different power capabilities and there is no way to say who could beat who.
Field Marshal
Aug 2 2006, 12:50 PM
Triad, Sauron was never an eye in the books. It was just something Peter Jackson made up for the films.
Also Sauron did things that Voldie could never hope to achieve. Sauron forged the One Ring and he was Morgoth's (Morgoth was Middle-Earth's version of Satan) Chief Liuetenant in the First Age.
P.S I'm not being rude to anybody. All I'm doing is informing people about Sauron's capabilities.
Triad
Aug 2 2006, 02:26 PM
Yeah well like I care. Since majority of people have never read the books and have instead taken their information from the movies I'll give my reason using the movie as my source. And I am not saying the people on here haven't read the books. I'm saying that more people have seen the movies then read the books. Simple as that.
And I couldn't careless that your only telling people of Saurons capabilities. It's the way you do it that gets peoples back up. You have to learn to do it in a more polite way. And you don't have to do it over and over again. Once is enough. Twice if your explaining it in more detail which I note you have not been doing.
Now, I am in quite an irritable mood so if you wish to continue discussing this please do it via PM as I do not want this thread to go off topic any more than it already has. If you don't want to discuss it that's fine. Just remember that it's not the first time I, or anyone else, has had to tell you to tone it down. That is not a threat, just a reminder. Please bear in mind that there are many young people viewing these threads and I don't think they want to read heavy handed words.
Albus Dumbledore
Aug 2 2006, 02:44 PM
Well since i like to consider myself an expert of both series of books, I would have to say Voldemort would be able to defeat Sauron quite easily, if the two were ever together. As most of us know that Isuldur, a man cut off saurons hand and destroyed his body on the slopes of mount doom... The ring acted as a sort of horcrux. All Voldemort would have to do is hit him with an AK well out of range of Saurons weapon, then apparate to the crack sof doom witht the ring and toss it in. Where sauron would have to catch LV first after destroying all horcruxes. If you want to discuss this further Field Marshall, i am sure i can hold my own against your passion for LOTr for both LOTR and HP are my passions.
Field Marshal
Aug 2 2006, 03:17 PM
Yes let's have a nice friendly debate Albus
Well firstly, in the books Sauron was weakened after fighting Elendil the Tall (Isildur's father) and the elf High-King Gil-Galad. Isildur then cut the One Ring from Sauron's finger and his spirit fled. Unlike the movies, Sauron was easily able to make himself a new body and he returned in a new body a couple of thousand years later.
Secondly, the sword which cut the ring from Sauron's finger was Narsil. Narsil was forged in the First Age by Telchar, the greatest of Dwarf smiths.
Thirdly, Sauron is a Maia (a minor god). Which means the killing curse would be useless against him.
Albus Dumbledore
Aug 2 2006, 03:23 PM
Ok I dont thinkt he killing curse would be useless against the Maia since If i am correct there was a huge war outside of Angband where many Maia, good and evil, died. Plus What is the purpose of discussing this if everything we throw at Gandalf, who i do love in LOTr, can be deflected merely because he is a god. I only recall thebook saying that Gandalf could not be killedby mortal weapons... but as i far as i know magic isnt a mortal weapon. I also seem to remember that the only person that was a match for Gandalf was the witch king and he broke is staff and was near defeating him.
All im saying is the LOTR books never said that an Avada Kadavra couldnt kill Gandalf, so we would never know.
Harry_Ginny777
Aug 2 2006, 03:29 PM
Voldemort would not win ever i think Sauron will beat him to the ground. i mean i like Voldemort and every but Sauron is more Powerful the Voldemort. and i know everyone who watched lord of the rings and or read the books will agrre with this idea.
Field Marshal
Aug 2 2006, 03:50 PM
Well firstly Albus, a vast majority of Maiar killed in the War of the Jewels were Balrogs. And Balrogs were only killed by other Maiar or Elven warriors in the War of the Jewels. And Sauron was far more powerful than a Balrog.
Secondly, Avada Kedavra isn't a godlike spell.
Thirdly, in the books Gandalf's staff was never broke by the Witch-King. It was just something Peter Jackson put in the extened DVD of Return of the King.
Spadice
Oct 2 2006, 09:59 AM
Sauron was never a wizard, he just aquired power through the magic of the elves. if it was saruman or gandalf, then they would kick voldy's butt. but i think that voldemort would be able to get one on top of sauron. besides, as much as we have ever known of him, sauron doesnt have a body. at least we known voldy gets one eventually. sauron has to keep his soul in a ring, which was destroyed by a really short guy. i think voldy could kill sauron. although it would be a good battle.
besty
Oct 2 2006, 09:21 PM

i picked voldemort because yes sauron is mabe stronger but voldmort can do the killing curse before sauran can lift his arm, but it would be close wouldnt it.good poll
caballo potro
Oct 15 2006, 04:36 PM
Its a hard one because Voldemort has magic wand and can do killing curses but Sauron is really evil and when he has the ring on no one will stop him. And i also like his theme tune its so evil
fragglecomegomibayas
Oct 16 2006, 01:38 AM
Definitely Sauron! I think Voldemort is too...small for him

Sauron is moved by something else than revenge and I don't know...I would be a lot more frightened by Sauron than by Voldemort!
62442al_Man
Nov 16 2006, 04:17 AM
Hmm, tough one. I voted Voldemort, even though it is highly possible Sauron is more possible; however, I know more about Jo's magic than Tolkien's and, I don't know, Jo's seems more stone-like and stuff. Hard to explain. This is a close one, it could go either way.
MeRt
Nov 26 2006, 06:08 PM
Thats very cool topic my friend. I think Sauron more powerful..
taintedlove-xx
Nov 30 2006, 08:18 PM
I have no clue who Sauron is , but im guessing he's from LOTH ? Since HP / LOTH are the two most things compared ... but yeah , I chose I dunno becuse I dont know who Sauron is . Sorry.
Nawrehsuan
Dec 1 2006, 05:25 PM
I think Voldemort would win because if he got the ring them he would easily be able to defeat Sauron because he could apparate to Mount Doom and destroy the ring. Sauron however, who can not apparate would have to locate all of the horcruxes which would take him a long time and them destroy them. So Voldemort could defeat Sauron in little time whie Sauron would have to take a long time.
Seriouslysirius
Dec 1 2006, 05:31 PM
Hey this is a really good topic.
But i voted Sauron because he has thousands at his command.
And Voldermort only as death eaters and a few giants.
Buckbeak rules
Dec 1 2006, 07:43 PM
I went for sauron, he just seems more powerful and (sorry) more devious, plus think of all the people at his command and all like Seriouslysirius said.
*Buckbeak rules*
ChoChangizHot
Dec 7 2006, 11:47 PM
I think voldemort would destroy sauron because before he could get in range for his sword he would get hit with a killing curse
siriuslyblonde
Dec 26 2006, 04:56 AM
Definatly sauron because he can put all his powers into a ring that can take over people. He also has/uses and unspoken dark magicthat is incomparible to that of voldy. but then again that (lotr) takes place in the third age of middle earth and this (harry potter) takes place like 10 years ago.
kelli
Jan 2 2007, 01:49 AM
Voldemort is way more powerful because he doesn't always have to count on his servants to do everthyng for him. He has power that is dangerous and is independent from others. He does not need to have alliances because he is more powerful and doesn't need them to carry put his will. He knows that no one can betray him because they are fearful of him. Snape, however, is the real mystery in the HP series because Voldemort thinks he is on his side, while so does Dumbledore. So, since Sauron has to depend on his little minions to do his work, Voldemort really doesn't need them to be succesful, and what is Sauron without his ring? Nothing!
Taskan
Jan 9 2007, 12:53 AM
Sauron, for you must remember that had aragon not summoned the army of the dead, Sauron would've ruled middle earth, it took all of his defences being stripped away to give frodo a chance to get to Mt. Doom, where as Voldemort was defeated trying to kill a defenceless baby.
Selena
Jan 20 2007, 08:59 AM
Sauron of course!! He covered whole Middle-Earth in Darkness, I don't see Voldy do that!

I think Voldy is more like Saruman, but Sauron is much more powerfull!
Asfandyar
Mar 30 2007, 08:14 PM
I do not Know who is more powerful because although Sauron has far more strength Voldermort can do a spell on him but then again i am not sure Sauron will get affected by his spells. So i dont know.
Fizz the Whizzbee
Apr 12 2007, 09:48 AM
tough, but il say Voldemort. Sauron had all his power in one ring, but Voldemort cant be killed until 7 horcruxes have been destryoed. yay Voldy!
WingzofDoom
Apr 19 2007, 04:44 PM
Sorry to anyone who thought Voldie - but Sauron is the ultimate evil lord!
Great quiz thing! Combining LotR + HP - the 2 best things in the world!
wait_siriusly411
Jul 12 2007, 05:10 AM
I voted I dont know, because I truthfully dont...theyre both very powerful.....theyre both very evil.....and they both have their own personal vendettas, I think that would be a fun match to watch (from a safe distance, of course)
anin
Aug 10 2007, 04:13 AM
Sauron would win hands down. But Cthulhu would kick both of their Mod Edit.
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A~Unique~Poison
Aug 15 2007, 12:58 PM
Sauron would slaughter Voldemort, good and proper. Even if Voldemort has a few spells to throw at him, he's a bloody God, and his spells would probably not affect him. But we could never know, they're in two different books with different powers and different surroundings, facing different types of enemies.
Still, Sauron is the most powerful, that's for sure!
Ignatius
Oct 4 2007, 09:37 PM
Sorry Voldy...A~Unique~Poison has got it right. Although Fizz the Wizzibee has got a good idea...
The thing is although Voldemort is immortal, Sauron is a maia, so he wins hands down.
Plus Saurons Black Riders are a lot more scary than the Death Eaters!
YehezqueL
Oct 4 2007, 10:46 PM
They are different but it's Sauron. I still like Voldy though
Vontsje
Oct 10 2007, 11:53 AM
I think Voldemort. It's true Sauron has been there for a long time, but he's nothing more than an eye. He can't do things by himself. Without his followers, he'd be almost nothing. Unlike Voldemort. He's (almost) immortal thanks to his horcruxes and he has real powers. He can do things alone, without any help. He needed it when he was weak, but when he isn't, he doesn't need anybody. And Sauron could be distroyed by 1 ring. Voldemort has 7 horcruxes!
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