OK this theory is a grouping of a lot of previous said theories, but I think it brings them together really nicely.

First of all we must realize that Harry's mothers protection still protects him from all evil people except Voldemort, so they cannot touch him.
Second of all we must realize that it is possible to have a live horcrux.

My theory is that Lucious, Snape, Bellatrix (one of them) is one of Voldemorts horcruxes. My theory is that this person horcrux will find out about Harry and try to kill Harry, but be killed by the spell because of Lily's love...I think that person will be the last horcrux! Then Harry can kill Voldemort.

What do you think, too off the wall?

My theory is not that one of these people are a horcrux, its that one of these people will try to kill Harry and die for it. So I see no reason to close this as some other threads have been!

Well... 1st, if no one evil can touch him except Voldemort, Why did lucious touch his scar and quirell die after being touched by him? Also, I dont think Voldemort would make any person a Horcrux, especially Lucious or Bellatrix for obvious reasons. Besides, assuming nagini is a horcrux, Dumbledore said he had more than usual parsle mouth control over the snake. So why wouldnt he have more control over another death eater. I dont think they would be able to use occulmency against. Also, wouldnt that death eater be close and prized to him? We all know Voldemort does not have a true friend.

Well... 1st, if no one evil can touch him except Voldemort, Why did lucious touch his scar and quirell die after being touched by him? Also, I dont think Voldemort would make any person a Horcrux, especially Lucious or Bellatrix for obvious reasons. Besides, assuming nagini is a horcrux, Dumbledore said he had more than usual parsle mouth control over the snake. So why wouldnt he have more control over another death eater. I dont think they would be able to use occulmency against. Also, wouldnt that death eater be close and prized to him? We all know Voldemort does not have a true friend.

You just helped prove my point here with your last couple sentences.

Well I'll check if Lucius was able to touch his scar, but maybe its because Lucius isn't truly evil...

Also your right about Lucius and Bellatrix, although I think Snape would be a good choice.

Lets assume Voldemort does have control over Snape. That would explain a lot, such as why he killed DD and all the other things. Maybe Snape was a good guy until Voldemort made him into a horcrux, which made him truly evil.

Remember though that Snape is a highly skilled occlumens!!!

Also you are right that Voldemort doesn't have a friend. But perhaps this is why he accepts Snape so much, reread Chapter 2 : Spinners End. Snape does seem able to get along with an awful lot of stuff, don't you think????

So my idea is that Snape was made a horcrux by Voldemort after Lilys death. This made Snape evil! Snape will attempt to kill Harry, and will be killed by the rebound. After Snape is killed, Harry can go after Voldemort.

Yes, i had the same thoughts as you after i first read your post and i forgot to add this to my post. But, also in spinners end, if snape was made one of Voldemorts Horcruxes, Why didnt he go looking for Voldemort. If he knew he was a Horcrux, could he really have thought Voldemort was finished? But if any death eater was a horcrux, i couldnt agree more with you that snape would be the most reasonable choice. Im not trying to shoot down your theory or anything, im just saying, it doesnt seem likely to me.

i pesonally think that harry is the horcrux. see voldemort has to commit a truly evil crime to make a horcrux, no scratch that not a crime, just a act of evil. killing a mother who would sacrifice herself for her son. then when voldemort tried to kill harry the last bit of the horcrux. that's why harry and voldy have such a strong connection. although jkr doesn't usually do what we expect, so i'm probably wrong, but still i think that is the the most logical thing.

At last, someone who agrees with me! Thank you, megan, for not making me feel insane! I totally agree with megan that Harry is the last horcrux. How else would Harry have such a close connection with Voldemort? It could have been that Voldy was planning to make another one after killing Harry, but he didn't succeed. However, part of Voldy's soul was left anyway, in Harry himself. It would make quite the plot turner, no? It would be cool that Harry would be willing to kill himself to defeat the one person who caused him so much grief. Of course, JK usually does the craziest things, so I may be way off, but hey, I can dream, can't I?

Everyone thinks that it will be Harry, but forget that Rowling is a childrens book writer. Ok, if it was Harry, Harry would have to kill himself in order to save the wizarding world. Or he would have to have someone kill him. Ok, Rowling is smart enough not to promote suicide to children all over the world!!!

you are so right el verte. How would she look provoking that. Matter of fact, since all the controversy going on about how demonic her books are, im sure its the last thing she would want a 17 year old boy in one of her books to kill himself. And think how much hate mail she would get, she would have to go into hiding i think for maybe a year and a half.

i know that mostly harry potter books are found in the childrens section of barnes and noble, and a lot of children will be reading it, but it seems to me that most people don't really see harry potter books as childrens books, not adult books of course, but maybe more like young adult. i mean i know a lot of adults that really respond to the series, although i'll agree that it is mostly popular with children, but still... i think that it was actually quoted, from stephen king, but i can't be sure, that he said that (these words aren't word for word) that the line between children and adult are not existent... harry potter is wonderful for all ages"(again not word for word) but hey what do i know .
but if she does kill harry off,(wich i think is highly probable) she probably hopes it will be percieved as doing the right thing, instead of promoting suicide.

OMG! I have the same theory ... I think it would be pretty cool if Snape was a horcrux though ... or maybe Voldemort made him a horcrux ... and then he secretly sided with DD (so basically he turned good) ... but Voldemort doesnt know yet because Snape is a skilled mind reader or watever

I really don't believe that Voldemort would make any living person a horcrux. He doesn't like to rely on others and he wouldn't place part of his soul into someone that he feels no true connection with (DD said that he has never had nor wanted a friend). There is also always the fact that even wizards die. It has been seen the kind of protection he places around his horcruxes and so if it was a death eater then I doubt that he would sending them to battle where they could perish in an instant. Plus, in order to make a horcrux it requires an incantation and a serious amount of dark magic, so don't you think that the DE would realize that something was being done to them (supposively he believes that no one but him knows about his horcruxes). About the fact that Lily's love might perish a death eater, I doubt it. Harry faced all the potential candidates you mentioned and he didn't feel a pain in his scar like he does when Voldemort touches him. Lily's love didn't save him in the CoS with the horcrux, Fawkes did. It just doesn't seem likely to me.

ok...the protection from evil is false...if that were true why wasnt snape being hurt throughout his 6 years teaching harry...?i mean..harrys been injured so many times he must of hurt snape at some point when snape made him drink his potions..=snape touch harrys head to lift him up to drink*..idk..umm..anywayz

one..i just wanted to say to all those people who think harry is a horcrux...he isnt..because it says in half blood prince u have to commit a act of murder and store it inside of a object...harry cant be it becuase voldermort never killed harry..plus voldermort never had time to create a horcrux when he killed james and lily..heck he didnt even wanna kill lily!i think he wanted to use harrys murder as his last horcrux...thats my theory

here is my theory: the scar on harry's head doesn't just happen to look like a lightning bolt. his scar is a 7. yeah yeah i know, in tha movies it doesn't look anything like a 7. but look at the book covers! i know i'll get challenged alot on this, but i just wanted to put it out there. just promise me you won't hurt my self esteem?

I really don't think it's possible because I don't think LV would want one of his Horcruxes running around unprotected-sure they can defend themselves, but from an auror, a group of aurors? No I think he will stick to items from Hogwarts. Maybe one is even hidden in Hogwarts...

Well, does it ever say in the books that Snape tried to touch him? And even in the second movie, it may be in the book I don't remember the wording, Lucius touched his scar with his cane and not his hand. I believe that Lily's protection keeps him from evil, except for Voldemort. I'll look in the book for anytime that Snape had to help Harry by touching his arm or head or something.

Plus maybe a horcrux as a person doesn't die? Ever think of that???

I was wondering about this yesterday when I was watching HP2 on TV, I saw Lucius trade something in Knockturn Alley, but I don't remember what it was, is it possible that that is one of Voldemort's horcrux's?

okay, sorry im goin back to this, but i dont think harry is a horcruxe due to the fact that voldemort thought that he wuz gonna kill harry, so if he tried to put the horcruxe spell on harry beforehand, he wouldve destroyed his own horcruxe when he would kill harry (although harry did survive).

anyway.......
i dont think that lord voldythingy would be stupid enough to make any one of the death eaters a horcruxe, due to the fact that any of them miht have other loyalties. and yes, i know that he is a skilled occlumens, but so is snape.....but then again he miht have because he thinks that everyone fears him too much to be unloyal to him. he could be proud....we all know hes not perfect..........

and yes i do know that i contradict myself a lot.

Or maybe it was Dumbledore, and that's why Snape had to kill him.

where did the "he's protected from ALL evil thing" come in to play? As far as I know he only is protected from the one that killed the one sacrificing themself.....But very interesting theory....

I don't exactly have theory on the whole horcrux thing, but it could be one of many things. True to the point of what many others have said in this forum, it could be a person, but certinly not Harry. For some reason, I'm thinking it could be Draco. It's just a hunch I have, because Voldemort gave him the job to kill Dumbledore. But when he couldn't do it, it was done for him. Then he was wisked away. Anybody get where I'm going?

I really doubt that voldy would trust anyone with his horcruxes never mind a person being one. And we are not really sure if Harry is protected from everyone that evil...it was probably only voldemort because Lily cast some sort of a Love charm before dying which would come into effect when some tried to kill Harry and following that person will be unable to touch harry or harm him. mmmattias...sorry but i think it is really absurd to think that dumbledore could be a horcrux...

hmm, that is really unlikey, because Voldie never had a true freinds, he liked to work alone, so I would highly doubt he would make one of them a horcrux, and trust them enough with 1/7 of his life, because they could always turn away from the dark side, and kill themself, eliminating 1/7 of his soul, or somthing ..nah, i jsut cant see it.

voldemort could never trust anyone, one of the main points about his character is his lack of trust and it is crucial to the books

i dont think harry is a horcrux either, for many different reasons which are explained on other threads and im not going to go into that

also voldemort, slughorn, harry, ron, hermione, RAB and dumbledore are the only characters that know about horcruxes that we are aware of, and he would have to tell, say snape about it first

i think that he will have placed his last horcrux in an inanimate object, the only living one could be nagini but he has control over her so she cant go astray

if voldemort put a horcrux in one of his death eaters he also wouldnt let them risk their lives like at the department of mysteries or at hogwarts

interesting idea though

I agree with a lot that the last few posters have just written:

Voldemort simply does not trust other people. He has set himself aside from people throughout his entire life. At Hogwarts, he would surround himself with a group of admirors - not friends. And this is still the case. He believes that he is the greatest wizard in the world, and wouldn't hand over a piece of his soul to anyone inferior.

Finally, Dumbledore suspected that Nagini was a horcrux - and this may be connected to Harry'becoming' Nagini when it attacked Arthur Weasley. So far, Harry has not had any other dreams where he takes the role of another human being - other than that of Voldemort himself. Suggesting that Voldemort's soul resides in Nagini, in the man himself, and in nobody else.

I must agree with many of the previous posters here, while it is possible that LV made someone a horcrux I seriously doubt he would do that as he would never trust anyone enough to do that. Besides, he kills off any of his supporters that he doesn't believe are loyal enough to him so he couldn't risk making anyone a horcrux if he is that mistrustful of people and his supporters. Then again, this is just what I think but honestly, if you think about how little LV cares for anyone it seems far too unlikely that he would do that.

No, I don't think so. Dumbledore said it was extreamly strange to have an animal as a horocrux so wouldn't it be really weird to have a human horocrux. Plus it is extreamly hard to control a person, they make their own choices so it would be really hard to hide a person horocrux because you couldn't make them stay in one place. Also, humans die, so wouldn't the horocrux die with the person when they died of old age or was killed?

i think this theory is kinda off the wall, because if u remember what DD told harry, he said it is unwise to have a horcrux inside a living thing, also DD said that LV only had a horcrux in one living thing, the snake, wich he keeps with him at pretty much 24/7.

A horcrux has to be tied somehow to Voldemort. I don't think that he would make someone, especially one of his Death Eaters, one of his horcrux's. They would have to have part of his soul with them and it has not been evident yet. Plus, why would he make an expendable person one of the objects keeping him alive? Answer: he wouldn't. He was mad at Lucius for throwing away the diary because it was not something that was expendable. He cannot afford to lose these horcruxes if he wants to live. However, Nagini is likely to be one because of how they seem to be intimately connected. For example, when in OotP in the department of mysteries Voldemort ends up "inside the snake" and Harry is with him, it seems as though there is more to Nagini than she is given credit for.

The idea of Harry being a Horcrux is wrong. Lily's protection protects Harry from evil, and Voldemort's soul, any fraction for that matter is evil. And Dumbledore said Voldemort likes control over his horcruxes, he doesn't have complete control over Harry. Another thing, if Harry was his horcrux, why would he have spent all these years trying to kill Harry? He spends so much time plotting to capture and finally kill Harry, how could he be a horcrux? Voldemort wants to be immortal, so why would he destroy a piece of his own soul? You can only divide your sould into 7 parts, why would he kill Harry and get rid of one of his 6 horcruxes. On that night that James and Lily were killed, he tried to kill Harry. Remember that the reason Voldemort wants Harry dead is the prophecy, so no one can challenge him. Why would Voldemort turn his sworn enemy, into a horcrux? It's just so unlykly to me that he would do that.

I serously doubt it. Do you really htink Voldemoert would be that dumb and make someone a Horcrux.... I don't know it just doesn't seem likely.

First off, I must say I definetley disagree about Lucius, I think he's evil. The kind of evil that's so much worse than evil. Like, Voldemort evil. But you never know. Its highly unlikely that hes not evil.

Secondly, Thats actually bloody brilliant! It would explain SO much! Voldemort would have control over Snape. If he was indeed made a horcrux by Voldemort [and was good up until that point in time] it must have been sometime After book 3 [Snape protects the kids from Were-Lupin], upto book 5 [Snape attempts to teach Harry Occlumency]. Snape being skilled at blocking people out of his mind, would mean he's also skilled at reading minds, which would in fact help the Dark Lord, greatly. If Snape could try to teach Harry Occlumency, that would mean he could try to get into Harry's mind, and pass the information on to Voldemort [aka, himself]. Which also explains the beginning of book 6, where Snape makes the unbreakable vow to Narcissa regarding Draco. This meaning that hes portected, so he could be used later on to to the important task of killing Dumbledore, without harm of anykind, because Snape [aka, himself] is watching over him. And when hes sure enough Draco won't do it, Snape [aka, him] does it instead. So, why wouldnt Voldemort just kill Draco then, because hes useless now, right? WHAT IF HE ISNT. Snape [aka, him] running off with Draco, hiding [keeping him safe], shows that Draco's obviously important. But the queston is, what is he needed for?


Someone mentioned "He wouldn't trust somebody like that" etc. But, what if they didnt know. What if he took it out of their memory, or cast a spell on them so they wouldn't be consiouc during the process.. hard to believe but it could happen?

Somebody also said " Maybe Dumbledore was the horcux, and that's why Snape killed him."
As cool as that would be.. its ridiculous. I dont know if you were being sarcastic or not, but Voldemort HATES Dumbledore, he wont go near him, hes probably poos himself in his sleep thinking of Dumbledore.. wait, does Voldie even sleep?

I just can't see that happening. If it's true that Voldemort's snake is a horcrux, he's already taking a huge chance on that. But to put it in a person? Especially one that was couped up in Azkaban, one that was careless with his, LV, things, and one that's a double agent? Even if Voldemort really believes that Snape's on his side, there was a long period of time that he believed that Snape wasn't. It seems like it would be foolish for him to entrust it in Snape. Besides, wouldn't a human notice? I can see any of them agreeing to do it, I suppose, if only out of fear. But still, they could be killed, and much more easily than the snake. I mean, who would care about killing the snake, if they didn't know what it was?

Ehrm, I don't think so. I honestly think that Voldemort's going out on a limb by making Nagini a horcrux, but hey, wot ever floats his boat. The only reason he made her one his is love of snakes, and because he has so much control over her. You can't control another human no matter how hard you try. They have their own personality, wills, and desires, and don't want their life lived under demand.

And think about it, why would Voldemort have his "most-trusted" Deather Eaters on missions involving fighting where they could possibly be killed if they were in fact, horcruxes. I think Voldemort would have told them part of the truth, and kept a closer eye on them, or put them on restrictions.

Voldemort doesn't want his life in other people's hands, he's independant, and tht's the reason why he made horcruxes in the first place and not rely on potions or a Sorcerer's Stone. So with that, why would he put a piece of his soul in something that could be so easily destroyed?

It does seem to be a stretch that voldy made a death eater a horcrux. Their just too likely to get destroyed seeing as how few of them there are and how many aurors are after them. It is likely that the ministry may give the aurors back the power to kill the death eaters if needed in which case if your theory is correct you will see voldy keeping one of his death eaters close to him at all times and not letting him/her go anywhere.

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Harry's turning 17 which means there will be no more protection. I doubt whether Voldemort would actually make a living Horcrux.

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