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Ok, are there any thoughts? Who got the repreave? What two are dying that weren't before? Is Harry going to die, as she hints he might? I have my own thougts on this, but I'll wait and see what others have to say.

-Fish

Note: I'm not simply asking "who will die?" This in regards specifically to who you think Jo repreaved and killed off without intending to. This doesn't mean "oh, I think _________ is gonna bite it!" There's a thread for that in the Deathly Hallows forum. This is specifically for who you think Jo planned on killing off but didn't or killed off, having not planned to before.

I don't think Harry will die. It's 'neither can live well the other survives.' Meaning, one dies, one lives. Plus the main characters don't always have to die to make an end. If that were true, all movies, tv shows, and books would be really depressing. Anyway, I think Neville will get it. I dunno why, but when I read that I thought "Neville". I dunno about the other one though.

Well this is not what I expected to hear from J.K. Rowling, but I kind of expected something like the deaths in the book. I mean, its all coming to the most dangerous part that Harry, Hermione, Ron, and any others that are helping him with the down fall of Voldemort are going to have to face. He must find and destroy the Horcruxes, then hopefully do the same with Voldemort. My assumtion is that Hermione and Ron are going to follow him to the end for sure, but I am also thinking that the people from the D.A., such as Neville and Luna and I am pretty sure Ginny, are going to go with Harry as well. So anything can happen, as we already know, Voldemort has made a habit of destroying people closest to Harry. His parents are gone, Sirius is gone but thanks to Bellatrix, Dumbledore on Voldemort's orders. Its dangerous to have people he cares about anywhere near enough to him for Voldemort to find out about.

Its hard for me to imagine Rowling killing Ron and Hermione unless she made it to where it was a battle between Harry, them, and Voldemort. I can't see them being away from Harry, I see them sticking by his side and helping him with the Horcruxes, not on a mission alone where it put them in a good situation for Voldemort.

Kind of like Amyrat151, I just had a sinking feeling when i heard that, except I didn't feel like it was Neville, I just had a feeling that it is Molly and Arthur Weasley. Something just makes sense to me that it might be them, they are like family to Harry and Hermione, they are Ron's parents, and they are so called 'blood-traitors' to 'pure-bloods' which is the majority of Death Eaters. Tell me what you guys think about this please!

I think its going to be ron and wormtail.

I think ron will die becuase of what the chess board theory said.

I think wormtail will die because he got away last time, and JK didnt say that it was nessicarily 2 GOOD guys that die, right?

Well we gotta think if its student or adult? That would be a good start. Plus I heard her husband were shocked that she killed someone so close to Harry...which leads me to a Weasley. We'll figure it out...when the book comes out. Why do we have to be so patient??? Don't you hate that??? I hear promotional posters are going to come in the next few months, oh wait this is about the seventh book.... : )

oh. sorry about that last post. i didnt see the very last part of the first and beginning post. SORRY!

What are you talking about ScandalX? Oh and btw, I know everyone wants to talk about the dying....but what about the reprieve??? I think she saved Lupin!!!

Aah aaah aah! You mean that she has actually been listening to S.P.E.L.L.????!! That would be wonderful!

It's anybody's guess who the new victims are and who got the last minute reprieve. I'm really surprised that she altered her story at all. Has she really been seduced into revising her story on account of things that her fans are saying? Maybe it's not anything like that at all, but more what she has come to see when she was filling in the big picture with details that prompted her to revise the death toll at the final battle.

My first guess at the reprieve was Neville. He was already a weak character and she might have wanted to just finish him. He wasn't that brilliant, and knowing him, he would've marched off to go do something brave for his parents or just for whatever and got himself killed in the process.

About who got killed...I would venture a guess at at least one of them being a professor or an Order member. Perhaps the other is a bad guy. I don't really know.

I wonder if Voldemort got the reprieve...? That would certainly make it interesting...

I don't think that the deaths that she lists are the only possible deaths. There may be more than two. The point is that two people that she hadn't considered before are going to die and one that she figured would die got a reprieve. There still may be others that she had planned to die all along that are still going to die. (Voldemort and Harry )

Personally I don't think that Neville will die. He has been beaten down the entire series and I have a feeling that he is going to get revenge on the Lestranges.

I have a feeling that one is going to be Hagrid. Of course, for the last two books I have had a feeling that Hagrid is going to get it. The reaction of "Oh, not that person" that her husband gave just made me think of Hagrid. He is the big loveable character that would really be hard to see killed.

Perhaps Snape is the character that received the reprieve, although I have a feeling she has planned all along to kill him and that he will die. I could also see Draco being the character that is spared.

I also don't see Ron or Hermione dying just because we have been teased with their relationship for so long, it would really be a bummer to finally see them together and then have them die.

Yeah, it would be interesting for Voldemot to the reprieve, but..could it be Harry? I'm still not clear on what the word 'reprieve' means, but from what I know, it would be as though he'd be framed..right? Haha, okay, I don't think I'm making the least bit sense here.

If she had to change something, I doubt the characters passed were important because there might've had to be a bigger change than killing someone off. My bet is a Weasley *cough* Percy *cough* , or maybe an unimportant Death Eater like Rookwood or Avery....

When I read this article, I got a sick feeling in my stomache because I thought of something that makes perfect sense. Well, first of all, we obviously know that either Harry or Voldemort will die at the end of the seventh book. Now imagine Harry died. J.K. said that these two were going to come out alive. She also said many auithors do this because they do not want anything written after they die. If she killed off Ron and Hermione, it would be immposibble to do anything with the series after it is over.
I think out of Harry and Voldemort, Harry will die, and so will Ron and Hermione. I have finally come to terms with myself that Harry will most likely die. I will cry for approximetely a month...

I dont think Harry is gonna die, if he did, there would be chaos in the Harry Potter world ( which is millions of people) I think J.K relized this and gave Harry the reprieve.

Humor me. Just tell me something, did somebody continue writing Sherlock Holmes after Arthur Conan Doyle died or for that matter Hercule Poirot after Agatha Christie. I am not sure that the two detectives died at the end of their series. I recall that Homes was bumped off but brought back. Even if someone wrote follow ups on those characters, they sure didn't catch up and faded into oblivion. Assuming she kills Harry off, what's there to stop someone from bringing him back from dead after the copyright tenure expires. I guess there's more of economics behind that than is visible

I feel that she's dropping enough hints here and there that "Look fellas, I am gong to bump Harry of so you guys better brace yourselves for impact". She's the author and has the story planned out all the way. If she decides that Harry should die, then he will. But, if we look at the series this way, An orphan raised without love, is thrown into a world where he's always under scrutiny, weighed down by expectations, ridiculed and hailed intermittently, faces enough horrors to make anyone insane, has a evil maniac after his life and finally he may have to die to save a thankless bunch. For someone who had a terrible life, i feel he deserved a better deal. If this is what happens to heroes who put their line on life for others, who the heck wants to be one.

ok. I seem to have taken something she said totally different than most. When she said that two were dying that she hadn't anticipated, I thought that she meant two additional characters had died, meaning that there is going to be more than two deaths...a number that she hasn't revealed, yet. Does this make sense? I feel that there has to be more than two deaths in the last book. It just makes sense to me.
I believe that Harry is going to live. Good has to overcome evil. Also, the strong connections to The Lord of the Rings gives me a bit of a clue...I think that Harry, like Frodo, will live. I do, however, have a lot of fear for the Weasley's...particularly Molly. I am afraid she is going to be one of those to die.
as for the reprive...maybe it is Neville...you don't really know...

Yes, I agree that more than two people will die. I think that's what she's saying. Just that two die that she didn't know would, and that one was going to die that didn't.

Ok, my thoughts now:

Ok, I was unsure on the whole "harry dying" thing, but kinda thought he probobly would die. But, after reading this, I think that he might not. Ok, I think that JK is giving too many hints about harry can go for him to actually go. I think JK tends to enjoy surprising us, and wouldn't give us such a strong indication of death if she was going to bump him off. Remember Dumbledore. If she can kill sirius and dumbledore without hinting to us of their death, why hint at harry? I don't buy it. I think she didn't want to give the impression that she wouldn't kill him off. I think she was just trying to say, "Look. I can kill him off if I want to. Now, I may not, but if I don't it's because it makes more sense for the story, not because I wouldn't do that to the fans or anything like that." JK doesn't like telling us things we won't like (Harry/Ginny and not Harry/Hermione, for those of you H/H shippers out there). But she puts them in the book. The book is sacred, and she'll do what she wants to do, it seems to me.

On the deaths:

I think that it is highly possible that it could be a couple. I doubt Ron and Hermione, really, as was said. But Lupin and Tonks (I hope not!!) or Mr. and Mrs. Weasly is a strong possibility (Tonks and lupin are more likely, as the required change to the last chapter might be less than Mr. and Mrs. Weasley). The reason I say this is that it seems that the decision to kill off characters might have happened once, not twice, as the decision to kill off the couple (not nessesarily at the same time). Perhaps the killings aren't related, but it seems that they could be. As well, either of these deaths would deprive Harry of a guidance provider. As we know that JK seems determined that Harry have no one who can help him besides ron and hermione, it makes these likely. Hagrid and Olymp are also a possibility.

On the reprieve:

I don't know. I like the Draco idea. I just can't see him dying. I hope that he'll live and redeem himself. Nevile is also a possibility. Perhaps he was giong to die, but JK wanted him to get his come-upins. We know that Dean was going to get the play at one time, but Nevile moved into the limelight instead. Perhaps JK was just going to kill him off, but since his character grew as the series went on, JK decided to spare him. Other possibles... Ginny, perhaps? Maybe the Ginny kidnapped theories are right, and that JK was going to kill her off, but didn't. It seems a lot harder to theorize on who didn't get the ax.

Other thoughts:

She says that she altered the last chapter "slightly" so I don't think Harry or Voldemort's fates will change either way. It seems a lot of change would need to take place for such changes to be made. This is also why I don't think Ron or Hermione's fates will change.

-fish

Saving Harry I think that you are right, JKR is trying to mess with our minds! She is going to have us racing around for another year trying to figure this all out. Chances are, we will all be wrong about who really dies. I was blown away when DD was killed. I know someone who said they weren't surprised at all! I was surprised she had believed he would be killed.

But, I really feel that people close to Harry wil die. What good is it to kill off sub-characters in the story? Will people care? Not really. But if Ron or Ginny is killed off, that will make a big impact to the story and to the fans. Who knows, maybe in a few months JKR will change her mind and decide the current people on the hit list shouldn't be there. As the story develops things will change. JKR knows how to keep the fan excited and interested in her books. SO, anyone close to Harry......watch out!!

I don't think it'll be Hermionie, but most people seem to be deciding on Ron. Nor do I believe it will be Wormtail... In the end it will probablly be Harry, Hermionie, and Ron VS. Voldermort and Ron will go down but so will Voldemort... and Hermionie will be really sad blah blah blah... mayb Ginny will die... and Harry will live in immortal unhappiness... who knows! Thats just my theory of what she's talking about...

Obviously there's going to be more deaths than just the two Rowling has referred to, but since she has changed her mind about them I don't think it can be anyone really major, whose death is central to the whole series i.e. not Harry or Voldemort. I don't think she will have changed her mind about Snape either, because whatever his fate is, the mystery of his character is very important and I'm sure she's had his fate worked out for a long time.

I suspect Hagrid will go, just because he seems like the kind of person who would die protecting Harry like Sirius and Dumbledore. Neville will probably do the same.

I think the character getting a reprieve may be Lupin because of the romance with Tonks. That's an addition Rowling could easily have made later on and it wouldn't be hard to change the story to fit in Lupin staying alive.

Thoughts on Harry-

I definitetly think that JKR is just toying with us! If she wasn't, why would she come out and tell us the biggest or nearly the biggest part of the book? I don't think that she would ruin the book for us like that. I think that if she wants to kill him then she has the power to do that but I think she is just toying with us!

Thoughts on the Two Dying-

I think that it is pretty safe to say that Lee and I think along the same path when it comes to what JKR may have meant when she said:

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One character got a reprieve, but I have to say two die that I didn't intend to die.

I agree with Lee when JKR said this because I also took it as an ADDITIONAL two will die. I think she meant that all the people she had intended to die WILL die, but there are two that now die she didn't intend to in the beginning.

As I said in my last post on this thread, I think that it is a MAJOR possibility Molly and Arthur Weasley are the two that she didn't intend to kill. My thoughts on why are:


1. to get to Harry, Ron, and Hermione

Think about it, if Harry Ron and Hermione are going after the Horcuxes and Voldemort wouldn't it make sense that Voldemort would go after something that was close to ALL of them? They are like family to Harry and Hermione, they ARE family to Ron, and play an active roll in their lives.

2. they are in the Order

They were in the Order before Voldemorts downfall the first time, and are still in the Order since his return. Voldemort may use them for information, which he won't get from them, and then finish them.

3. they are considered 'blood-traitors'

Since the Weasleys are 'pure-blood' and they choose not to go down the Death-Eater path, the Death-Eaters have refered to them as 'blood-traitors'.


Thoughts on the Reprieve-

I like the Neville theory as much as I like the Draco theory.

But just from HBP, I think that Draco needs the reprieve more than Neville does because at the end of HBP Neville wasn't really in that bad of shape to need it. Draco though didn't finish what Voldemort asked him to do, he failed to kill Dumbledore himself, although Dumbledore did 'die' it wasn'nt Draco who did it. I really think that is why Draco needs the reprieve because Voldemort doesn't seem to be too leniant to the Malfoy family since Lucius was caught. Who knows what Voldemort will do, but my best guess is that it won't be light.

When I first heard that Jk decided to kill two more people my knees felt like they couldnt lift me up. i had to sit down. I found out while i was watching the news on msnbc. They talked about for a few minuets. Well anyways I think Harry will be one of those people who are going to die ( if he wasn't already going to die.). i don't want him to die, but it seems obvious. I think though that he is going to die fighting voldermort. But voldermort and harry are going to die at the same time.

No, I disagree... whatever she plans certainly will not be for the best. She cannot kill Harry. Her exact words were:

Ok, so I just got done watching the entire Richard and Judy interview, and I must say that I am not at all comforted by seeing it in its entirety. Actually, my heart is in the pit of my stomach now. It does indeed seem that she is going to kill Harry off. I don't even want to read book 7 at all if that is what she is planning on doing. Her reasoning, it seems, is to end the series with her. I find that absolutely selfish. How can she kill Harry off just to suit herself? Just to make sure that no future author benefits from the brilliance of her characters? Aside from that, she owns all of the characters herself! Someone couldn't possibly publish their own addition to HP without infringing upon her copyrights. If she is worried about unpublished fan fiction... too late! Most of the people reading this post right have have either written, or, at least read some fan fiction stories.

I feel she is being utterly ridiculous, and, indeed, selfish.

I'm sorry to be so harsh and she is, obviously, entirely within her rights to do whatever she pleases with her own characters... but I just feel this sucks. She better not kill him off!

Believe me, I feel as strogly as you do about Harry being killed off, but.........we have to remember that these characters are JKR's babies. As an author I wouldn't want my characters messed with either.

My big beef has been that I wanted Book 7 to be 5000 pages long if she wasn't going to write any more books! This last book better be the biggest out of all of them. I think JKR is also thinking that if she doesn't end the series somewhere, that is all that she will do for the rest of her life. So that is why she is ending the series with Book 7. I don't think that I will get my wish of a 5000 page book though!

I understand your point, She Who Wears Many Hats, and I completely identify with JK's desire to end the series with her. It does not, however, have to be done with Harry's demise. She said that at the end of book 7 there would be no more questions. The backstory, along with a glimpse into the characters' futures, are going to be included. Why not just end it that way? Have him die of like, old age or something, reflecting on a wonderful life after Voldemort's downfall? That way, there will be no future adventures... she could sum it all up. I just can't bear the thought of our beloved Harry dying at the tender age of 17 after the tragic life that JK has already had him endure.

Seriously, I will chuck my book out the window if she kills him off. For real-real , not for play-play .

I've always thought that she's going to kill Harry in the end. I remember reading an article somewhere last year where she gave an interview saying that whenever someone asks her if she'll write anymore books, she always replies that they'll have to wait and see if Harry survives first. And now this. I really think it's the strongest hint yet that he will die. What I don't understand is why everyone would be so depressed if she did kill him. If he dies heroically, if his death has purpose, then what's so terrible about that? I don't personally have a great need for kitsch happy endings, though they are nice when you do get them. I'm not going to be bereft if he is killed though.

I'd be far more upset if someone who I hoped would be redeemed in the end such as Wormtail, Snape or Draco were killed.

As to the possibilities though, I think the one who got the reprieve is probably Lupin (the fan support for him seems huge, I think there'd be riots if she killed him) and the two who she intended to survive, but changed her mind, are likely two of the adults...maybe Tonks and McGonagal? Who knows. Fun to speculate though

This is what makes listening and reading her interviews so much fun. . . her statements appear to be somewhat clear and informational, but only end up being, under the surface entirely cryptic! Drives me batty! I read it like this: "If I have already decided since the conception of my story that Harry has to die, then he will die. . .I cannot be tempted to kill off someone who was doomed from the start. If I have let him live since the conception of this story; I cannot be tempted to kill him off because I have already stated that seven books is seven books." (Loose translation, obviously.) So, really, it tells us nothing. Which is her way-lots of words with absolutely no information.

As for the two newly-dead deaths. . .sigh. Who knows? Perhaps she intended Lucius to live, only to have him get killed as she was writing; the flow and passion of the moment and all that. Perhaps it was Neville's grandmother, for all she hints at us? I'm not at all convinced that the people she is talking of are the ones we care the most about. . .if she can seem so flippant in their demise.

Here's where I'm going completely loony, so only read on if you feel the need to roll your eyes at someone.
I'm voting for Sirius as the one getting the reprieve. (Though, I'm totally convinced he's dead.) I think that she'll bring him back through the veil. . .then she thought to have him die again; to make a ridiculous point, then she thought "oh, what they hay! Sirius is too handsome to kill off twice" and she decides to let him live!! Yes, that's my vote.

In my opinion, Harry was the character who got the reprive. On the talk show, she mentioned, "I can understand why some authors have the desire to kill the lead off..." She wouldn't have mentioned this, had she actually thought she was going to go through with it. It was also mentioned that her husband was shocked that one of the deaths is a person who is very close to harry. I personally think he might be more shocked if it was Harry on his deathbed, and he wouldn't be focusing on the other ones. She also mentioned that it is one of the main characters, and that she wouldn't be killing off an "extra". I put Wormtail in the catagory of an "extra," so I still believe the other one to be killed will be Ginny or Ron. Some one from the Weasleys, I don't believe it's Herimoine for a second. In all of her interviews she says that she, herself, is Hermione. I don't think she'd have the desire to kill her self off, unless, she was the reprive she made, because back in 1990 she might not have realeased how much of herself she was going to be putting into Hermione. I'm very curious to find out....

"The final chapter is hidden away, although it’s now changed very slightly. One character got a reprieve. But I have to say two die that I didn’t intend to die,” she said. “A price has to be paid. We are dealing with pure evil here. They don’t target extras do they? They go for the main characters. Well, I do.” This is a quote that i pulled from the associated press, the title of the article is "Author hints that Harry himself might be among characters to die."
I have read the bits and pieces floating around i hadn't read this one. I think we need to prepare for the whole trio to die. Yes i said it, I've been on the fence with for a long time but I know feel that its gonna happen. I think the trio will die in final battle against Volde. JK has said before that the trio's wand's were connected. check out the extra stuff-misc.. and its explained there but i think there gonna go. I hope I'm wrong but i can see it happening.

Oh I hope that you are wrong! I don't think I could handle it if she killed off the whole trio! Yikes! But it is very interesting reading JKR's own words concerning who is getting the "knife".

I do have to say that my gut still says that all three will not be killed. That would be so overboard. She might as well have LV reign and blown up the whole world! Oh ..I'm trying to digest all three being killed off and it makes my stomach hurt. It's bad enough trying to convince myself that Harry will probably die at the end.

The first thing I thought when I read the transcript of what she has said was: 'I wonder what made her decide to make these changes? Has she been influenced by fans?"

Normally, authors don't listen to feedback from their readers about a story that they are in the process of writing, but the Harry Potter series is a special case. Has she been influenced by fans? And if so, wouldn't she be more likely to go against the wishes of fans than grant those wishes? Killing characters off would stop all speculations regarding their future after the events in Book 7. And the reprieve . . . maybe just for the hell of it, some Death Eater who deserves to die now doesn't. Just because that is the way that things go sometimes. Maybe it's Bella, and maybe she'll bide her time until she can break out and become the next Arch-Enemy. Who knows.

Let her kill all she wants to, I give a damm. It's just another book to be read and forgotten till it's read again. If I don't like the story, there's awlays some good stuff out on the fanfiction that would make a good or even a better read. When she spoke about "not wanting someone else write the stories", it should be read as "no one else should make money out of this". Well she could just let her kids take over the copyrights, this way it can be in the family. She talks about facing "pure evil" that would demand sacrifices and would like us to understand this but on the other hand she would like us to believe that irrespective of Harry's (average) magical skills, he'll face Voldemort and all his death eaters, most of whom have capabilities far beyond those of the trio (yes including Hermione, she's not as great as some would like to believe). Of course in this match of unequals, the trio have a slim chance unless there is some divine intervention and since JKR is writing somethign like that's going to happen (For details see my post "Is Harry Up To The Task Ahead?" http://www.veritaserum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=10676). So lets not worry too much about the special effects that'll accompany the outcome of the last book (we all know what that's going to be- good over evil). If some are disappointed with the book (as undoubtedly many might be), write your own fanfic or read ones that are more to your liking. Till then sit back and enjoy.

in my opinion I think that its Ron and Hermione, but I think that alot of people share the same thought lol ... or maybe its just Ron or Hermione, with another character, like Proffessor Mcgonagol or something!

mayfair
[quote]When she spoke about "not wanting someone else write the stories", it should be read as "no one else should make money out of this".[quote]
I really don't think she is doing this for the money at all, the money is just the icing on the cake. I wouldnt want someone coming along and messing with my story that i have worked on for years. Then seven books and a couple of side books she's done for charity can stand alone. someone who comes along and pics up her story i think will just make it cheezy. I enjoy reading some of the fanfic out there but its just not the same as Rowlings.I understand that she wants to end it on her terms.
I also understand that this is a childrens book but so what? why suger coat it. If harry and the trio goes down bring Volde down then thats and awesome lesson in itself. thats the utimate sacrifice. i read were teachers and parents would be furious if harry dies, but why should they be upset. Our kids get too many things sugercoated to them, yeah if harry dies he gave us the ultimate sacrifice, he gave all to bring down a bad guy.theres something there that kids should learn to.
I just think that we should expect to see him and his partners in crime dying. but i could be wrong, thats the fun part of debate guess we'll just have to wait and se.

she didn't say only two will die,so it could be two more that die.I bet there are more than two.BUT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE JO DON'T KILL HARRY!

I was extremely upset when I first watched this interview. After speaking it over (rationally) with my co-wokers/slash/HarryPotterFanatic friends, I have come to the conclusion that Harry will probably not die.

The entire point of the Harry Potter series is to emphasize the thought that Good should triumph over Evil. In the end, if Harry dies, evil will have won. She won't let that happen. I also truly believe that the trio will survive. I think that the main characters to die will be Neville and Lupin. They are certainly main characters, and their deaths will not affect the general audience as much as the death of a trio member would.

To all the S.P.E.L.L.ers- I'm sorry! Please don't hate me for that!

lily potter
[Quote]The entire point of the Harry Potter series is to emphasize the thought that Good should triumph over Evil. In the end, if Harry dies, evil will have won. She won't let that happen[Quote]

I respect your opinion completely because i truly want all three to live. but i dont agree with your statement "In the end, if Harry dies, evil will have won." If harry dies bringing down Volde Harry has given the ultimate sacrifice. We live in a world that is not fair: people die for the greater good every day. Good will prevail with the downfall of Volde. The wizarding world will know that Harry potter gave all for the greater good. they will see that even though he had been persecuted and call mental, even had the words i must not tell lies engraved in the back of his hand, he refused to back down even to the bitter end.Think of all the good that could come out of the tragedy. How inspiring. Now dont get me wrong i truly hope that im completely wrong, but i cant see JK putting something in her books just because its politlicaly correct. that good always wins and evil is always the underdog. I wish that was always a true statement, but if we look at our world today its not always the case.what a great lesson to get out there that no matter how many battle evil may win and that even though your hero went down, he went down fighting standing up for what he believes in to the bitterand(Sad) end. and ultimatly good does prevail even in the mist of tragedy.
Its late and i hope that this does not have a disrespectful tone, but what a powerful message to our youngsters...if it really went down this way.

I understand your point, missmugglebethany, but what I was trying to convey with my last statement is that if she killed off Harry in the end, all of his suffering throughout his life would have been for nill. If he simply suffers throughout his whole existence and gives his life for the good of the world, what does that say? That good people can do everything in their power to help others, and in the end they only suffer for it? I just don't believe that is what JK is trying to convey in her books. I do not think her messages are, in the least, politically based. I do believe, however, that she is trying to get a point across. She is trying to teach a moral lesson subliminally within her books.

I don't know, I know there is a lot of recent evidence to support her killing Harry, but I just can't see her doing that. Not after all the poor thing has been through. He has to reap some sort of reward for all his good deeds.

Hmm, very interesting. Now I don't think she was refering to Wormtail when she says (two I didn't intend" I think he was going to die all along. My guess is that instead of redeeming himself and surviving, Draco will certainly die, destroying any chances of a Malfoy blood line to continue. And the other, a good guy/girl, may not be a student but most likely one of the posey, But Perhaps Percey is the one who gets it. The REprieve I believe will be Lupin, so that Tonks and Lupin can get together.

I couldn't agree with you more. Like I mentioned in one of my previous posts that after going through hell, you have to die to save the world, why would one want to be a hero?



I am not too sure about that. Lets take Sirius as an example, if you see carefully his life mirrors Harry's very closely. Raised in a family that hated him, he found friends at Hogwarts. He ran away to escape his home misery and landed up with his best friend. The best friend gets killed and Sirius lands up in Azkaban for no fault of his and has to suffer 12 agonizing years of hell (with dementors around). He escapes only to find that cannot fully be with his godson because he's a fugitive wanted by law. He's forced to return to the place he hates and finally dies trying to save his godson. Now tell me did he deserve to die like that? After all he went through did he not deserve better? If JKR can do that to Sirius what's stopping her from doing the same to Harry?

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but Frodo didn't live..and,[u] you [r] are right..there are some similarities with lotr..DD and gandalf,aragorn and sirius,frodo and harry..that's why i think and really hope dd will come back,like gandalf did


MOD EDIT: I did some editing of netspeak in this post. Please be careful and write it all out next time. Just for the sake of conversation, Frodo did live. But he sailed out to the West with the last of the Elves and Gandolf.

Maybe there will be MCgonnagal and Remus Lupin after the due day of Tongs....
Or Mcgonnagal and a DE like Bellatrix or Malfoy ....

But be sure no one of the main characters.....For them JKR already decided...

I know that Frodo doesn't live. I should have made myself clearer. I meant that he lived to finish his task...he wasn't killed while trying to complete it. I'm sorry I was so murky. it would be nice for Dumbledore or Sirius to come back to life. I could see it more with Sirius than Dumbledore because we didn't see his body...he, like Gandalf "fell" into an abyss (of sorts) and wasn't seen again. No one knows what was on the other side of that veil...he may (praying hard, here) come back..that could be why J.K. has said we will see the mirror again...Sirius had it on him...is that where you were going?

Thank you mayfair for saying that. I only got deeper involved with the series because of my weeping nieces. It was like someone killed their pet! I had to convincingly act out with toys and drawings what really happened then spin the tale of what happens next.

IF JKR is hellbent on her slaughter fest I blame her friendship with passé writer Stephen King. I hope she takes a good solid look at what S.King fans are like. They’re going to be yours honey.

As for who she would kill, I’m sure it’s a larger character. Someone who would rate story sequel. Since Hermione is ‘herself’ it would make sense to put her down. Probably by doing something noble like sacrificing herself for a House Elf. I still think Harry’s demise is a strong possibility. I think she would be upset if someone else took him on adventures she didn’t know about.

In all truth I think JKR afraid someone can else can take her characters and make it better than her imagination can stretch.

Brilliant point. That being said, I do not think that Sirius is dead. He is coming back in book 7. The details surrounding his death are far too vague and cliffy to be a mere coincidence. Hopefully we will find out that he did not die in vain after all

LilyPotter, well we do agree on something i dont think we've heard the end of serius. and i agree with your statement:

"If he simply suffers throughout his whole existence and gives his life for the good of the world, what does that say? That good people can do everything in their power to help others, and in the end they only suffer for it?"

I do see it that way but i can also see it my way. the fact of it is that no matter how it happens, he dies he lives, if he dies it will effect everyone in their own way. I would see him through all the suffering and trials he was still willing to go the distance. he didnt turn his tail and run. some people will see it my way and some yours. i guess im just trying to prepare for his death(even though i dont want to see it) and make some since. i just think it may come to that. and if it does i'm just trying to come up with why she would kill harry. i'd rather see him live and good overcomes all and some peace in his life.

Well, it wasn't a real shock to me that she's killing two characters more. Didn't she write the last chapter in 1990 or somewhere that time? There has been at least 16 years for that, so I would be more suprised if there woudn't be any chances. If I remember the day correctly, she propably hadn't even write the PS/SS, so how could she know for sure what was going to happen in last book?


I'm a little bit suprised that everyone thinks that Rowling admits here that she is going to kill Harry. I'm not Rowling expert, but it seems to me she's only saying here, that she wasn't ever going to kill Harry before in book seven, and she understood why some writers want to kill their characters so that nobody can uses them. I don't think she says anywhere that she herself is thinking that, she's only admitting that she could think that way.I belive some people may have read that too quickly, without thinking what she's actually saying. But I may well be wrong.

Don't get me wrong, I do think that Harry is going to die, althoug I wouldn't want that. I just think that Rowling hasn't yet reveald what she is going to do. I wouldn't start throwing my books out of window yet, anything can happen in book seven.



Well, as I said before, I don't think that Rowling said anywhere in that quote that she doesn't want anyone else to write Harry Potter series. And even if she doesn't want to, I don't think that she would do it for personal gain. But again, I'm no Rowling expert.

Althoug I'm bit suprised, that this interview seems to got some people against Rowling.

hey marire, good points she never actually comes out says who is going to die. I based my desicion on a nother quote she made in that same interview

“A price has to be paid. We are dealing with pure evil here. They don’t target extras do they? They go for the main characters. Well, I do.” JK Rowlings

I pulled this from the associated press a couple of days ago. this isnt any clearer about who she is going to kill but, if she goes of her own quote, she means business and shes aiming for a main character. No matter what she says i hope she doent kill harry, i hope he lives and has a huge family with ginny and has some happiness in his his life. but who knows this is just another way that JK is very good at telling us something important without actually telling us anything at all.

I know that two people (that I read) have already said this but I think that she meant that two more characters were going to die. Two that she wasn't going to kill off in the beginning but is now going to, meaning that she is still going to kill off everyone else that she had initially intended on killing off. As for those two, I think it is one of the Weasleys (Ginny?) and Hagrid. As for the reprieve, I think it's Neville. I don't have any reason why, it's just a feeling that could be 100% wrong. I know that this isn't the right place for it, but I still think that Harry is going to live.

ok 1st an formost. harry isnt going to die. like someone said. " neither can live wile the other servives", well I do know that can be interprited many diferant ways. but on a side note. I dont think JK could handle the hate mail for killing off harry. to be honest.

I think severous snape got the reprive. I think JK made it kinda obvious he might die. and plus I think in the end he is the good guy.

its really hard to say who lives and who dies. I kind of suspected dumbledor wasnt going to make it. he knew harry had to do this alone. and if he was in the picture he would do everything in his power to preotect him.

one person who I belive will die in the final book, is Dobby. why you ask? someone who thinks the world of harry. and yet haryy dosnt pay much mind to dobby. but deep down he values dobby quite a bit. I think it will be somthing climactic. dobby saves harry. and says thank you. because he was free, and that harry was his freind. somthing along those lines..

the other. Mad eye. I think VM will finally get him, but not at the expense of getting a little pain. mad eye will go down fighting for the order. and will leave some lasting words with harry!

I think the reprieve is probably someone less significant than Snape, like maybe Neville or Luna. I hope that the two that die will not be any members of the trio . Maybe Percy and Mad-Eye? Although I guess they're not that crucial in the story... and she did say the two were main characters...

I guess she could have decided to save Ginny. How cool would that be? Save Ginny and toss Neville and Luna to the wolves? I could totally see her doing that, if only out of guilt that Harry has suffered so much, and wanting to appease her fans. It wouldn't make too much of a difference in the plot, and it would spare her a whole lot of hate mail.