they already did the third movie...
the question now is the fourth movie...to be or not to be?
I'm certain Jack didn't die. What kind of movie would that be?

Well i reckon he sort of died but he gets to come back just like Barbosa did. I mean Tia Dalma must have got Barbosa back alive again.. Or she knew who could..

So maybe she will do the same to Jack..

yeah, even though some say that jack's dead, i frankly find it hard to belive that he is, i mean what's the point of it all if he is, it makes no sense

i just wanted to say something about barbossa... in the part where jack and will are in tia dalma's house, you can see someone's boots that is laying on the bed. i think that that was barbossa... sorry, i just wanted to say that and i wondered if anyone else noticed that.

Yea, It Says That In The 3rd Movie They Will Explain It, But It Says That Tia Dalma Resurrected Barbossa Apparently ( Wikipedia.com) Excuse My Poor Spelling.

Well No, I Don't Think He's Dead Either, But... If He Is, He'll Probably Be Resurrected , i'm not sure.


Oh Kam I Didn't Notice That, I'll Have A Look Later, Hmm Thats Interesting.

haha Yepp Seni Thats Quite Correct What's A Pirate Movie Without Jack.

Yeah that's what i'm getting at Jacks dead at the moment but will be ressurected. I know it's a disney movie and anything can happen but how could he survive the terrible Kraken. Anybody got any ideas to how he could survive the Kraken?

To answer Seriouslysirius question Anybody got any ideas to how he could survive the Kraken? I just thought of this now. Davey Jones and Jack made a deal right in DMC? If Jack gives Davey 100 souls then Davey would free Jack. But Jack obisvly didn't give Davey the 100 souls which would mean that Davey Jones would still own Jack's soul. So wouldn't that keep him alive? Because Davey still owns Jacks soul and not the Kraken?

This is just a thought. But what do you all think?

Well, After Jones Saw Jack Plounge Into The Kraken he Said '' Our Dept Is Paid Jack Sparrow'' Or Something

I Guess Because Him Dying Is The Same As Owing Jones His Soul.



That Still Is A Good Theory, But Jones Doesnt Own His Soul Anymore I Don't Think,

I Could Be Wrong.






Well Its Like What I Said In My Bizzar Theory Back A Couple Of Pages, Jack Could Be Swallowed By The Kraken And Stuck In His Stomach Or Something, Instead Of Dead .


Its Worth A Shot

Interesting Kam, i never thought of that really
oh, and i wonder if elizabeth & will make up in the 3rd movie????
and yeah, i agree that jack's death is equivalent to owing davy jones his soul

None the less this is a good theory..

Davey Jones did say are debt is settled, but that was before he knew he didn't have the heart.. So i'm not sure..

I like the theroy though..

I guess we'll just have to wait to May 25th.. Anyway wheres the trailer???

Like Pinocchio?
Maybe Will goes in and they build a raft and go out.
But actually, I think that's the only logical explanation. I mean, that he's swallowed, not chewed
That or he really did die, and Tia Dalma does something

Ha ha..

Like pinochioo that would be funny. I mean it's logical to. After all Piniochio and POTC are disney films.
Yes i think the logical explaination would be Tia Dalma knows something..

hahahahaha Yes, That's Probably Where I Got It From, Our Italian Teacher Has Made Us Watch Pinocchio I Don't Know How Many Times, And It WAS in Italian, I Couldn't Keep Up .


Yeah, either that, or Tia Dalma Will Resurrect Poor Ol' Jack


Another Random Question :

Do You Think Anyone Will Die In The Third Movie? If So, Who?

For Some Reason I Don't Think Davey Jones Will Die, Because Apparently There Is Going To Be A 4th, But That Could Be A Whole New Villian, You Never Know, Lord Of The Rings Had The Same Plot And The Same Villian For 3 Movies Technically.

I don't want Davey Jones to die either. Because he such a great villian i think the special affects did well.

Davey Jones is a question. That i pose..

What do you think will happen to him??

I don't get if Davy Jones is dead or not...I mean, he removed his heart from his body....so he's under a curse, right?Or?....don't really get that

Well..I'm pretty sure Will, Jack and Elizabeth won't die. Anyone else might

Can i just say i was just playing my Legend Of Jack Sparrpw ps2 game. I think it's great.
I really enjoy the plots in it and the baddies there good.
Err, Jhonny Depp plays Jack's voice in it.. And they make him come up with his funny catchphrases. And he always keeps falling over..
I just want Davey Jones to be in it.

I want to bring up something that was a page back and I think is interesting, about Weatherby Swann (Liz's daddy), that he was willing to let Elizabeth marry Will but he has very little faith in him, and is rather indiffernt to him. When Swann got her out of jail, was ready to put her on a boat to England, he said he would try to get a fair trial for Will if he comes back, Liz says "a fair trial for Will ends in a hanging," he says "then there's nothing left for you here." I think it's pretty clear that the only reason he cares the smallest measurement for Will is because Elizabeth loves him.
I think Elizabeth and Will will pacth their relationship up, I agree that there's something between Jack and Elizabeth but I think it's just lust and an understanding that one trickester has to another. And the compass actually never pointed to Jack. Wacth your commentry of the second movie. Ted and Terry say that in fact the compass was pointing to the chest the whole time, Elizabeth only thought it pointed to Jack.
As for the Krachen stuff, Jack is probally in the space between life and death, but they'll get him back.

haha Yer I Love Playing The Game Too

'' Holes Have Been Blown In My Ship, Was That entirerly Necessary''

hehe yer he keeps falling over, those bits are funny =]

I'm Still Stuck On The Bit Where You Have To Defeat Barbossa =[
He Won't Die


Yea, I Dont Understand How He Could Have Put His Heart In The Chest Without Dying, Bit Strange If You Ask Me.


Yea Amyrat151, I Think So Too,

At The End Of The First Movie

'' So, This Is The Path You've Chosen Is It'' GWS

'' Well He IS A Blacksmith'' GWS

'' No, He's A Pirate'' -ES

Something Like That Anyway

It's Like Why He Wanted Lizzie To Marry Commadore, Cus He's High In Rank And Is Probably Rich, And Will Was A Blacksmith.


As With What Will Happen To Davey Jones, Only Time Will Tell.


Hey Seriouslysirius, There Is A Dead Man's Chest Game But You Can Only Get It ON Certain Consoles Like Nintendo Ds Or Something Like That =[ Its Soo Kool Cus Jones Is In It, But It's Not Coming Out On ps2 =[.

Well i've got to the bit where i've just destoyed the ice Viking king..

Anyway as for Lizzes dad. Yeah i agree, i don't think he cares much for Will. He only has any onuce of care because Will cares for Elizabeth as he does..

I don't like him that much Mr swann.

Well i don't have Nintendo stuff. So i guess i'll have to wait untill i do.. CursedMagic

Well I think it says something about Mr.Swann's character that he loves his daughter enough to allow her to marry Will.
As for Davy Jones putting his heart in the chest, it doesn't have to be realistic, they world of the PotC movies is suppernatural.

I Remember the ice viking stage =D good level that was

lot of random things went on , the next thing im getting in a ps3 when it comes out cus my birthday is soon . Maybe it'll come out on there too =D.

Ahh good point, i keep forgetting it's a disney movie .


No, I don't like Mr. Swann either coward, wouldn't fight the skeleton crew on the first movie.

oh yes, i watched DMC again yesterday, and i did see that boot leg u mentioned, when the monkey goes to the leg, and that pirate dude, forgot his name, the one who keeps losing his eye, stares suspiciously at the leg. so I guess it was Barbossa or someone else, more likely Barbossa.

Yrah i also think that was Barbossa because i recgonise the boots.
Well as Barbosa was there at the end of the film.. So i'm pretty certain that was Barbossa.
Pintel i think that guy with the wierd eyes name was.. Or it was the other name, which i can't remember..

Are you all talking about when Captain Barbossa and Jack(I mean the monkey, Jack) appear at the end of Dead Man's Chest to captain the crew?

Sorry i haven't been on in about a week my computer was broke AGAIN!!

Is it definetaly in May that POTC3 is out in the cinema?

Yes I heard that it is May when POTC3 comes out.
I don't really understand why Mr. Swan doesn't want Liz to marry Will either because I mean its who she wants to marry and thats all that matters right?
Also I was wondering if someone could explain to me how Barbossa came back. He's supposed to be dead... I mean we saw him die at the end of CotBP, there was all that blood and stuff...
Did that one girl bring him back? I can't remember her name the one they were calling "Her" when they went back in the swamp to see her.
I don't know, but I love Pirates of the Carribean!!
And was it just me or do you think that they used to many special affects in POTC2? Like the Davy Jones stuff was cool but I'm talking about the 15 minute sword fight on the wheel with Jack, Will, and Commador.

Yeah we are talking about the mysterious resurrection of Barbossa..

It is May the 25th that it comes out in cinemas.

I can't wait..

And i wonder where the trailer is???

I thought it was coming out in July. Maybe not OotP is coming out then I doubt Disney wants the competion.
Does anyone have any ideas what happened to the lady pirate who was in the first movie? I can't think of her name but Jack stole her boat. Sorry I mean 'borrowed without premission but with every intention of returning it.'

Oh good question the girls name was Anna Maria yeah i wonder where she is??

I wonder if she is dead.

Yeah i pretty certain about May 25th...

Borrowed

I just checked it does come out on May 25.
The pictures they have, wow they've got nice clothes.
Anna Maria that was it. Maybe she has her own ship?

haha yes. i did wonder where she got to in DMC...


Well Jack did promise her a ship, knowing Australia, which is where i live, it wont come out on May 25, same with OOTP, i've heard OOTP doesnt come out till September over here i do hope i read wrong under some thread about how Australia is disadvantaged.

You all must tell me how it goes =D

Do you all remember in DMC when Jack's crew were race each other when they were locked in the cages and one of the cages fell well maybe Anna Maria was in the cage that fell, i actually thought that bit was quite funny !!!

Emm. Maybe she was but if i remember right it was only men in the cage.. And anyway i don't remember seeing her before when Jack was telling the crew about the key before..

Yeah the cage bit was funny.. Ahh it's a snake.

I think Jack probably got her a ship, for helping him out. Though you never know the boat could be rubbish and she comes back in AWE, looking for Mr Sparrow.

Actually come to think of it i don't think she was there when Jack was telling them about the key. Maybe she got eaten by the Kraken just kidding!!!!

I don't think so. I quess maybe they cut her because she had to do another film or something??
Or they just didn't need her anymore.. I mean it happens.

Well she didn't play one of the lead roles or anything so she didn't exactly need to be in the film. But see the guy who got freaked out by the snake wasn't he new in it because i can't remember seeing him in Curse of the Black Pearl.

I think he was new in it.. I'm guessing that Jack got saw more crew at Tortuga or something like we know he did in DMC.

Though unfortunatley he got to a sticky end..

I know how could he survive after getting eating by the Kraken??!! Well i think i heard that he got swallowed whole and not get chewed.

Knowing Jack he probably did get more crew in Tortuga any excuse to go back and get more rum!!

Yeah more Rum for Jack sparrow.

If he was swalloed whole then that would explain why he isn't dead. It's what most people are saying.. I still think he is somewhere between dead hey maybe he joins Davey Jones crew.. Just a thought. But i can see squid Jack now.

Exactly--kind of like how Sirius isn't dead, he just fell behind the veil alive and is now stuck in the underworld!

Glad to find a place to discuss the movie--personally I loved it, though so many people say it's terrible! I agree it was a bit too long, especially the ridiculously long swordfight--waaaay to long, needed to be cut down to maybe 5 minutes, began to get really old...and dizzy! The part with Will's dad was kind of boring as well--but overall I thought the plot was more interesting than last time, even if the script, etc, wasn't as good. And I LOVED all the Jack/Elizabeth, stuff, being a huge Sparrabeth shipper, and hence that has a lot to do with my love of this movie as well! They were just so hot together on screen, and I love that Disney at least played with the idea, noticing their chemsitry, so that it wasn't quite so predictable and boring (and come on--SO worth it for the look on Will's face, lol! ). B/c it's Disney I don't think Jack and Eliz will be together in the end, but it was a nice interlude that was very entertaining and enjoyable for us shippers! I also liked Eliz's character better in this one--I liked her new hard edges and piratic ruthlessness and independence. I found her to be a more interesting character as a result--and LOVE the trick at the end! You can tell that she was really sorry to do it--she looked like she was about to kiss him again, they way her mouth was hovering and swaying near his, clearly she really desired him and REALLY had wanted to kiss him, not just to trick him--and it shows that both of them really are "birds of a feather" (Swan and Sparrow!) or in Jack's words, two "peas in a pod"!

Well sorry sherillina i am an elizabeth/will shipper i think they make a great couple and he has always loved since the day he met her!! Though i do like the relationship that Elizabeth and Jack have but at the end of DMC when she kissed him i was like NOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Elizabeth why did you do that!! but then i noticed it was a trick so i calmed down a bit !! but she was sad about it which is a bad thing, a very bad thing!!

No Offence Either But Im A Will/lLizzie Shipper Too, I Just Find The Idea Wayy Too Wrong.

You Know In COTBP Where At The Start Commadore Was Really Oldish And Elizabeth Was Just Soo Young Looked About 8-9-10 And Commadore Looked Like 20 Something ,

Then Lizzie Grows Up And Commadore Asks For Marriage =O

Yeah that was so strange.. To old for Elizabeth..

But did they just do it like that in thosse days??

I am a Will/ Elizabeth shipper because if they don't end up getting married then the films have been for no point. Because alot of the first and second film was based on it..
But i like the way they've got Jack mixed up in it. It brings a bit of tension into it..

And as Jack says in COTPB. " It would never have worked out between us Elizabeth."

Yeah I thought that was funny when he said that to her and then he said to Will, "Nice hat"
.

hahahaha =] yer that bit was funny

Yeah, Maybe They Did That Back In Those Days, But It Was Weird, Commadore Only Got Interested In Her After She Had Grown Up

'' You Have Grown Into A Fine Woman Elizabeth''




I Do Agree, The Only Reason Will Released Jack From Prison Was To Save Elizabeth, And Win Her Heart.

Well if Will hadn't released Jack from the prison cell there would have been no point in making the whole movie!! . I really hope that Will and Elizabeth eventually get married because it's not everyday that a governer's daughter chooses a half blacksmith half pirate man over a rich commodre!!

Yeah well i am sure they will get married i'm pepared for them to argue in this movie over the kiss between Jack and Elizabeth.

Hey i just thought i'd mentioned this. I'm reading a book set in later 2007 and somebody said that they would be going to see Pirates of the carribean 3!! I was like well i want to as well.
The book makes me want to watch the film now..

haha Yeah, Im Very Eager To See It

I Was Reading Something On Wikipedia And It Said The Official Script Of Number 3 Was There, I Went To Read It And It Was Rubbish I Hate It When People Put Fake Things Like That On The Internet I Was So Disappointed.

Yeah I'd Say They Will Get Married, Overwhise Whats The Point.

Yeah i hate that to. I was looking for a Pirates of The carribean 3 trailer on the off chance. And it comes up with it but it isn't even the real thing. That is a question though when does anyone think they will release the Trailer or teaser trailer. My Dad says they will realease when they are sure everyone has seen the 2nd movie..

I agree with sherrilina when she said that Elizabeth is now a more interesting character, and why she's still my favorite characters, she's a trickester, that's who she is, to call her something else underestamates her. But I am a Will/Liz shipper as well, because despite the fact that there's a connection between Jack and Liz, I think it's based on little more than pure lust and the kind of understanding two criminals have going after the same thing. To add to that, I think that if Will and Elizabeth actually gotten married, Elizabeth wouldn't of wanted Jack in the first place, not because of the wedding but because of the wedding night. Elizabeth was sexually repressed in the second movie, hence the desire for Jack.
Norrington and Elizabeth getting married would of made sense because men like Norrington would spend their 20s and 30s bulding their milatry careers and then get married to a young woman from a rich merchant family (if money was needed) or well born young women (if a title was needed) about the age of 16 to 21.
That was a real script, it was just filler though because Ted and Terry needed something to show for their work so production could go forward.

Ah that explains the reason they where orignally where going to get married. I found it strange that they would marry with such an age gap...

I always wondered if it was how they did it back then..

I agree that the fact there is a connection with Jack and Elizabeth is just out of lust. I noticed that Elizzabeth half the time seemed to be trying to change Jack into a more lawful kind of person.

Yes, a few of Chancer's stories from the Cantaberry tales gives commentry on the huge age gap of men and women who got married in high/mechant class society. Funny stories they are, anyone else read them?
I don't think that Elizabeth wasn't trying to change him, she was trying to convince him that he's a good man by using her femine wiles. Ironic when Jack proves that he can do a selfless thing, she kills him, and also proving that Elizabeth isn't an honest person, that's why Jack was smiling because he knows he's right about her.