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HPfan#1
I think its rquite funny the little popping sound that Davey Jones makes with his lips laugh.gif !!! I hate it when Bootsrap Bill has to slash/whip Will its soooo sad and looks really painful!!! And I think Davey Jones made a better villain than Barbossa because he is a lot more evil laugh.gif !!!
Amyrat151
I like Barbossa better, he's not completely covered in CGI like Davy Jones, so he just feels more real to me I suppose as a villian. And he's a great foil for Jack, verse Davy Jones who's just a villian. Even though I think it's interesting that there's two villians in the second movie, Beckett as well as Davy Jones.
alkisti
Davy Jones was scaring, well at least for me. He had all these supernatural characteristics. I really don't like sea creatures so he disgusted me a little bit. But i was more afraid of him because it is hard destroying him. Plus, he had great power, which made him a greater vilain. As for Barbossa, i agree with Seni. He seemed more realistic, his face, his looks, his behavior. The only supernatural about him was the fact that he could not die. He is a more interesting character since he seemed to switch sides. But a less important vilain.
I have to add here that i feel a little pity for Davy Jones. Remember that heart story? It was really moving, he took his heart out for that girl... sad.gif
Amyrat151
But I feel bad for Barbossa as well in the first movie. Image not being able to touch anything, feel nothing, it's a very scary thought of just being stuck in your own Hell for so long.
I do credit John Knoll on his brillance with the look of Davy Jones, but I don't find him as cool as Barbossa.
alkisti
Yes, it was very scary and when i think about it, i feel my breath taken...But he could get out of it. That's what he tried to do after all. He had a choice. But Davy Jones' situation was irreversible...That's what makes him seem more scary to me...
Just the Droobles
The argument my brother had is that Barbossa was more scary because he was human. It seemed more scary to him that Barbossa was able to be so cruel, and you could see the human characteristics in him. He was really without a heart, and since he was human, it made him that much more scary. You can sort of expect that from "mollusk man" or any other badly deformed villian, but since Barbossa was human, that's what gave him a really frightening air.

Davy Jones is also scary though. I mean...he has a squid face. And he collects souls. I'd say that's pretty darn close to being the devil right there. No heart? Hmm. I understand why he lost his heart, which gives him depth, and that's why I like him, but I also think it's quite terrifying--the thought of having to give your soul to a man and work on a ship for sooooo long. Davy Jones is pretty ruthless, especially when it comes down to taking souls and asking fathers to whip their own sons.

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I think its rquite funny the little popping sound that Davey Jones makes with his lips
Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one! laugh.gif I started laughing out loud in the theatre when he did that. People must have thought I went a little crazy.
Seriouslysirius
Yeah i think i know what you mean with Davey Jones you couldn't tell wether he was getting angry or not. Which is a bit like Voldermort in GOF with his mood swings. So i defiently think Davey JOnes was more scary well i wasn't scared really but you know he is the creeepiest in my opinon.

Barbossa is a good villian though. Well he is a good guy now.
HPfan#1
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Barbossa is a good villian though. Well he is a good guy now.


Yeah thats strange though because why would you want to help save the man that killed you??? Well even though Barbossa isn't dead laugh.gif . And I do agree with Seriouslysirius that Barbossa did make a good villain pirate.gif .
Seriouslysirius
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why would you want to help save the man that killed you???


Me i think Tia Dalma must have convicned him some how. Or it could be helping them will help him in some way if you understand me. Like he will get something out of helping them.
HPfan#1
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Me i think Tia Dalma must have convicned him some how. Or it could be helping them will help him in some way if you understand me. Like he will get something out of helping them.


Yeah maybe they will give him some gold in return or maybe they will just promise to leave him alone for the rest of his life. But their must be something good in it for him unless he has changed laugh.gif .
alkisti
Hm...i have a theory on that. Ok, Tia Dalma predicts the future somehow, doesn't she? What if she saw Jack's death and brought back Barbossa to save him? Barbossa will have to help Jack because that was the condition with which Tia revived him. So, it is his obligation or Tia will kill him again...Which means that he didn't really switch sides, he just pays the price of being alive again... mellow.gif
HPfan#1
That is a good theory alkisti biggrin.gif . Maybe that i why Barbossa is being so nice to Tia Dalma, because maybe one wrong move and she will kill him. Well I think it is a very good way to explain why Barbossa would help to save Jack.
Amyrat151
Hmm...maybe Barbossa and Tia have histroy as well, not just Tia and Davy Jones.
I don;t think either are that scary, I havn't been scared of anything I saw in on the tv or in a movie since the Gentlemen from Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and that was when I was 11, 7 years ago, in other words.
Seriouslysirius
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Hm...i have a theory on that. Ok, Tia Dalma predicts the future somehow, doesn't she? What if she saw Jack's death and brought back Barbossa to save him? Barbossa will have to help Jack because that was the condition with which Tia revived him. So, it is his obligation or Tia will kill him again...Which means that he didn't really switch sides, he just pays the price of being alive again...


Yeah alkisti.. I really agree but there is proberly magic that if Barbossa made one wrong move he would be killed by magic..

Barbossa is one of what i call sly dogs you can never predict them. They could do anything.
alkisti
Sly dogs, ha? I'm so going to use that phrase... tongue.gif
But i guess you are right,he is unpredictable, just like every pirate. It is hard for me to believe he changed, there must a reason why he offered to help, superior motive and all...He doesn't convince me...
Seriouslysirius
QUOTE(alkisti @ Feb 21 2007, 11:00 PM) [snapback]330624[/snapback]

Sly dogs, ha? I'm so going to use that phrase... tongue.gif
But i guess you are right,he is unpredictable, just like every pirate. It is hard for me to believe he changed, there must a reason why he offered to help, superior motive and all...He doesn't convince me...


Yeah doesn't convince me either. Not one bit. I guess we will have to wait for the movie to find out.
But may i ask has anyone actually found something like the trailer or a hint to where it might be??

Amyrat151
I think that all Barbossa that Barbossa looks after is himself, and cares little about anyone else, he'll aline himself with Elizabeth and Will and them because it serves his proposes, he'll only be with them all long as it serves him.
Seriouslysirius
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I think that all Barbossa that Barbossa looks after is himself, and cares little about anyone else, he'll aline himself with Elizabeth and Will and them because it serves his proposes, he'll only be with them all long as it serves him.


Yeah we have now established that Barbossa only cares and thinks about himself. Unless he had a lady way back!

Do you think he had a lady like Davey Jones???
Amyrat151
Do you think it could of been Tia Dalma? All we know is that a woman broke Davy Jones's heart, we have no idea how. What if it was another trinagle, to mirror the Liz/Will/Jack one?
Wow, only 90 days till it comes out, and still no teaser trailer. Grrr.
Seriouslysirius
QUOTE(Amyrat151 @ Feb 23 2007, 03:22 PM) [snapback]331673[/snapback]

Do you think it could of been Tia Dalma? All we know is that a woman broke Davy Jones's heart, we have no idea how. What if it was another trinagle, to mirror the Liz/Will/Jack one?
Wow, only 90 days till it comes out, and still no teaser trailer. Grrr.


I like your thinking Amyrat151. I really think there could be another love triangle. I mean she brought him back so yeah that is a great idea. It fits as Tia Dalma bought Barbossa or helped bring him back.

You know i don't reckpn there doing a trailer.
Amyrat151
My name is Ellen, and thank you. It would fit, it gives a pretty good reason to why Tia brought Barbossa back to life. Something Ted and Terry said about her as well is that she had good reason to what Jack to be alive, I can't image what that could be.
Seriouslysirius
QUOTE(Amyrat151 @ Feb 23 2007, 03:40 PM) [snapback]331682[/snapback]

My name is Ellen, and thank you. It would fit, it gives a pretty good reason to why Tia brought Barbossa back to life. Something Ted and Terry said about her as well is that she had good reason to what Jack to be alive, I can't image what that could be.



Well they were old friends but it has to be more than that. Hi Ellen i'm Daniel. laugh.gif

Well does anyone have anyidea when they thought or think a logical time for the trailer to come out??

It has me confused when they will bring it out i have resorted to watching Dead man's chest trailers and pretending them to be world's end trailers.
alkisti
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It has me confused when they will bring it out i have resorted to watching Dead man's chest trailers and pretending them to be world's end trailers.


I'm seriously considering of writing a script of my own and making it a movie inside my head. wacko.gif I don't think DMC's trailers can help, unless i find some clues in them for POTC3... Or unless...i accidentaly bump into Johny Depp (yeah as if it is very possible) or Orlando Bloom and convince them to reveal the plot to me. At this point, i actually don't know which is more impossible. Watching the trailer in a few days or bumping into one of the actors? mellow.gif
Seriouslysirius
QUOTE(alkisti @ Feb 23 2007, 11:25 PM) [snapback]331941[/snapback]

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It has me confused when they will bring it out i have resorted to watching Dead man's chest trailers and pretending them to be world's end trailers.


I'm seriously considering of writing a script of my own and making it a movie inside my head. wacko.gif I don't think DMC's trailers can help, unless i find some clues in them for POTC3... Or unless...i accidentaly bump into Johny Depp (yeah as if it is very possible) or Orlando Bloom and convince them to reveal the plot to me. At this point, i actually don't know which is more impossible. Watching the trailer in a few days or bumping into one of the actors? mellow.gif



You have a fair point, alkisti. It seems the likelyhood of seening some kind of trailer before the the weekend is out. Is less likely than me walking past Kiera, Jhonny or Orlando and going.. HI, whens the trailer comeing out.

It is a bit wierd you have to admit that the trailer or teaser trailer hasn't come out when the film is in May!
alkisti
Yeah, it is weird...It really has me thinking. I mean, is it sure that the movie will be released on May? I mean is it official? Because if it isn't, well...i guess they are having some issues that don't let them finish the movie and release the trailer. Else, it is yet another way of making more fuss about the movie... mellow.gif
Seriouslysirius
QUOTE(alkisti @ Feb 24 2007, 10:29 PM) [snapback]332551[/snapback]

Yeah, it is weird...It really has me thinking. I mean, is it sure that the movie will be released on May? I mean is it official? Because if it isn't, well...i guess they are having some issues that don't let them finish the movie and release the trailer. Else, it is yet another way of making more fuss about the movie... mellow.gif


Yeah they could be having techinical difficulties. Or yes they could be waiting for the dramatic effect.

So will you watch it the day it comes out the film, i would want to.

I watched Dead Man's chest the day after it came out i think. 7th July.
HPfan#1
Didn't someone say that the At Worlds End teaser trailer came out when the Ghost Rider trailer came out?? Because I seen the Ghost Rider trailer this morning on the TV so shouldn't the POTC3 teaser trailer be out??
Seriouslysirius
QUOTE(HPfan#1 @ Feb 25 2007, 12:19 PM) [snapback]332895[/snapback]

Didn't someone say that the End of the World teaser trailer came out when the Ghost Rider trailer came out?? Because I seen the Ghost Rider trailer this morning on the TV so shouldn't the POTC3 teaser trailer be out??


Yeah so it has to be out there just has to be something wrong seriously it is strange.

Okay i have a question..

Elizabeth in a whole what do you think of her??

I think she is great. I like her boyish characristics she's good sowrd fighter and she is really funny.

Elizabeth - " Oh the heat!"
HPfan#1
Well I really like Elizabeth she is one of my favourite in POTC biggrin.gif !!! I also like her boyish characteristics, probably because I am a bit of a tomboy myself biggrin.gif . I think its funny in Curse of the Black Pearl when she is trying to get the display sword thing that sits above the fire and she couldn't get it laugh.gif
Seriouslysirius
QUOTE(HPfan#1 @ Feb 25 2007, 01:02 PM) [snapback]332916[/snapback]

Well I really like Elizabeth she is one of my favourite in POTC biggrin.gif !!! I also like her boyish characteristics, probably because I am a bit of a tomboy myself biggrin.gif . I think its funny in Curse of the Black Pearl when she is trying to get the display sword thing that sits above the fire and she couldn't get it laugh.gif


Oh yeah i was all ready for her to do something actiony and then that happnes it was great.

Can i just say something. I was young when i first watch POTC1 and i was a little scared. laugh.gif

And i though Jack sparrow was scary. laugh.gif

But when i 1st watched it isaid sarcaticly well your a scary fela.

I remember that so well it was funny.

I can't beleive i thought i'd be scared Of Jack.
HPfan#1
Well how could you be scared of Jack biggrin.gif laugh.gif . I think he is hilarious, basically he is the only sort of good pirate, who would get his crew to steer his ship while he laid back and drank all the rum on his ship laugh.gif .
Seriouslysirius
Well i am not scared of him now i was young at the time.

I hope they bring out the trailer soon. I can't of much to say..

Barbossa will he become evil in At World's end. Will he turn aganist the heros??

I suppose it's possible.
Just the Droobles
I just want to throw in here that Pirates just won an Academy Award/Oscar for Visual effects. It's competition wasn't that great....but still. Davy Jones and his crew really paid off then, eh? I thought the graphics were awesome in Pirates...don't know about you guys but I was really impressed, so I definitely think that the movie deserved that award. smile.gif
ChOco
yeah, I saw that as well. your right, there really wasn't much versitile competition. and yeah...I have to agree POTC has some awesome screen effect, so yes, they whole-hearteldy deserved that award. GO POTC!!!! and yes, seriouslysirius, how can you be afraid of jack. man, I luved that guy, he was so funny, haha. especially the whole "Oh bugg*er" thing. haha tongue.gif
alkisti
Yeah DMC won an award! That is cool. Though Poseidon and Superman returns were not such a big competition as you guys said...But still, an Oscar is an Oscar!
Now that they are pleased, can they release the trailer? lol laugh.gif
And yeah, how old where you Seriouslysirius when you saw the first movie? I never thought he was scary. On the contrast, i thought he was hilarious and really not the kind of pirate pirates would want to show around, if you know what i mean... laugh.gif
Amyrat151
It won because Jonh Knoll is a frick'n genius! I think that Geogre Lucas's greatest achievement was starting ILM (international light and magic) because it completely changed the way movies are made.
What do I think of Elizabeth, I think she's very complexe, and a great tricker and that's why she's my favortie character.
Seriouslysirius
Cool DMC won award well they deseve it the special effexts in Dead Man's chest were reslly something amazing. The Kraken was great. The battles more intense and the characters better.
Amyrat151
Some news I've read that the teaser trailer will be online on the forth, so 2 days from now. I'm starting to sound like a broken record, I think.
Reecy13
I love each of the three main characters. But i'm torn between Orlando and Johnny. I can't figure out who is the dreamiest. I love Orlando, because he is the damsel saving hero. But i also love Johnny because he is funny and complex. I can't wait until the last movie comes out. But my favorite will always be Dead Man's Chest. (Because of how creepy Davy Jones looks!) tongue.gif
Seriouslysirius
QUOTE(Amyrat151 @ Mar 2 2007, 03:31 PM) [snapback]335980[/snapback]

Some news I've read that the teaser trailer will be online on the forth, so 2 days from now. I'm starting to sound like a broken record, I think.



Oh cool where did you get this information??

Well i can't wait for it now. It is one of the big movies and i can't wait to see how it ends. I hope they don't try to make it too funny it could ruin it.



HPfan#1
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Some news I've read that the teaser trailer will be online on the forth, so 2 days from now. I'm starting to sound like a broken record, I think.


Yay biggrin.gif !!!! Is the trailer definetaly coming out on the fourth, Amyrat151??? Oh I can't wat to see it biggrin.gif
beekyk2001
QUOTE(Amyrat151 @ Mar 2 2007, 03:31 PM) [snapback]335980[/snapback]

Some news I've read that the teaser trailer will be online on the forth, so 2 days from now. I'm starting to sound like a broken record, I think.


OMG! biggrin.gif I am so excited I hope it comes online and on TV. I will most likely watch it online over and over and over again. You don't sound like a broken record you are just reminding everyone of when the trailer is coming online.
Seriouslysirius
No Amyrat151.. I forgot to say you don't say like a broken record they are boring and you giving vailable information that is not boring. laugh.gif

Love the avatar beekyk2001. Good old Jack.

I can't wait now!!!
Amyrat151
No, I'm a broken record because I keep saying "the trailer will come out (insert date here)" saying the same stuff over. And I got it from a news article.
Let's hope its actaully coming out then.
HPfan#1
Amyrat151 You don't sound like a broken record!!! Because you are the one giving us all the useful information. If we didn't have you then we probably wouldn't know that the POTC teaser trailer comes out on the fourth biggrin.gif
alkisti
I'm crossing my fingers over and over again, hoping that the trailer will be out in a couple of days! Ah...i really want this moment to come when i will say FINALLY the trailer is here!!! Thank you for letting us now Amyrat151, even if the tip proves to be wrong! happy.gif
Seriouslysirius
Amyrat151 - Can i stess you are NOT a broken record.

Like i say without this information we probably would be waiting for the 3rd Teaser trailer when the 4th movie is in cinemas! laugh.gif

I can't what it is tommorow!!!
alkisti
Hey do we have anything new about the trailer??? I'm getting so excited and i would be sooo disappointed if we had to wait for any longer... sad.gif
Amyrat151, i'm counting on you to inform us on the the trailer! happy.gif
Seriouslysirius
Oh my god yes the trailer today what but have we heard anything is it on You tube or??

Calm down Daniel. laugh.gif

It would be really upseting if it didn't come out i think it's time they reward the fans with a trailer now!!

Jack here we come!

This is the only thing that is even like the movie footage.. Or a very short trailer well it isn't really see for touself. It isn't the trailer!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHWtnwvu1RA...ted&search=

I have scoged the internet the trailer isn't there i am afraid.
alkisti
Was that what Disney channel showed??? That person 77rk...whatever his/her name is, is moking us...mad.gif I'm so disappointed now... sad.gif But there is still hope. You know what they say, hope dies last. Or something like that.
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