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HP_RULES!
I know that this may sound a little bit far-fetched, but if Harry needs to finds the horcruxes, it could now be considered what he wants most in the entire world because he wont have peace until he does. In the SS, Harry looks into the mirror and sees what he wants most in the world, his entire family with him. Well, if that's now what he wants most in the world (he didn't know about Voldemort's horcruxes then), then couldn't he look into the mirror and see where the remaining horcruxes are? That might be what DD sees when he looks into the mirror (I heard we were going to find out in book 7). Harry could figure that out, find the mirror, and have a much easier journey. Just wondering what others' thoughts on this matter are.
bluezz
The mirror will definitely play an important role in Book 7 - JRK said so. But somehow I think that there would be something more to it that was described in previous books. Now, this is just a feeling, nothing solid.
Horace Slughorn
I also believe that the Mirror Of Erised will return and play a huge role in the plot of the seventh and final Harry Potter book. laugh.gif

I think that Harry will look inside it to find his heart's deepest desires. In this case he will probably be seeing the horcruxes of Voldemort. This will probably either give him clues, or lead him to the horcrux locations. happy.gif
CAPS LOCK
that is an excellent idea i can't believe that i have never thought of that before. The only problem is what if that is no harry's deepest desire isn't to find the horcruxes but something else, like DD and sirius alive or him killing LV instead to the horcruxes.
Sir Cadogan
I think that the Mirror of Erised is a Horcrux. I already posted this in the Horcrux thread, so I won't go in depth, but I think that the Mirror of Erised is one of Rowena Ravenclaw's possessions. She's the only one left without a named possession, and I think that it would make sence to have all of the founders have a precious item. Hufflepuff's Cup, Slytherin's Locket, Gryffindor's Sword and Ravenclaw's Mirror.

All of the items for the founders seem to match their personality - no? Sword - Fierce, Loyal, Proud and Loving. Locket - Secretive, Hard, Mysterious and Surprising. Cup - Welcoming, Jolly, Cheerful and Happy. Mirror - Wise, Powerful, Unique and Curious. Those personalities seem to match the founders exactly, if you ask me. Plus, the Mirror has clawed feet, such as an eagle or a raven has.
CAPS LOCK
wow, Sir Cadogan, that is brilliant, it would be really cool if the mirror was one to the horcruxes. i can also see how you can identify it with ravenclaw. i bet that harry will look into the mirror and see himself destroying it or something so he will know that it is a horcrux.
missmugglebethany
Nah i disagree. I think the mirror of erised is how Dd has been finding the horcuxes. And i fully think that harry will be using it to find the rest. Harry has a lot to do in the next book and it will help the story along a little length wise if he can use this to find one or two of the horcuxes. but is it that simple. I think DD looked in it and saw an image of the coast, and put 2 and 2 together. i dont think it gave an exact location but enough for him to realize it was on the coast some where so he started looking where the orphange might have taken the kids to. i think it will give harry a picture of where/what it is and he will have to use his history lessons from DD (and maybe some wits from Hermione) as to where the actual location is. But it i do like your theory about the personalities of the objects good one, but i do like my idea better but hey thats what the forums are for right?
CAPS LOCK
if the mirrior is ravenclaws item, how would have LV got his hands on it to make a horcrux. i mean nobody realy knos about the mirrior let alone where it is LV probably wanted to make it a horcrux but never could---oh--- that's why LV wanted to be DADA teacher but DD wouldn't let him come bake and said that the job wasn't really why LV wanted to come back to hogwarts--sorry a little off topic but just a thought
bluezz
Some interesting theories developing here..
First of all, I don't think Dumbledore was using the Mirror to find the Horcruxes - that would be a little too easy. Then he would've been able to tell Harry the locations to all the Horcruxes and wouldn't have had to spend so much time trying to find and retrieve them. (and if you remember, he used to disappear from Hogwarts frequently and for long periods, attempting to locate the objects)

Next, Sir Cadogan's post. I thought it was absolutely brilliant until I read the last comment by Caps Lock. Indeed, all the Horcruxes are heavily guarded, aren't they? But the mirror was definitely at Hogwart during Harry's first year, not really protected and close to Dumbledore, and I think it is still at some known location. So therefore, it can't be a Horcrux.
And it couldn't have been turned into one after Voldemort's return. We know he had only one Horcrux to make when he came back, and he chose Nagini (did I get the name right?) as the object.
The Infamous Fish
QUOTE(bluezz @ Jul 10 2006, 03:38 PM) [snapback]200307[/snapback]

The mirror will definitely play an important role in Book 7 - JRK said so.


I think this was said in regards to the two-way mirrors of sirius. And this is a maybe, drawn from a suspicious "no comment" from JK on the subject.

I don't think that the mirror is a horcrux. The way voldemort treated the mirror in book one would have been different, I think.

I highly doubt that the mirror will appear in the next book. I think it would have worked, but I just don't buy that as a format. Besides, I would not have been surprised if the mirror was either hidden or destroyed after the first book. I just don't think so.

-fish

*edit*

Besides, wouldn't the mirror just show harry killing voldemort? That's what harry wants most.
CAPS LOCK
i have writen about this in my forum but i think that instead of harry useing the mirrior he will use the room of requirement to get help to track down the remaining horcruxes
Albus Dumbledore
yeah, the more im thinking about it i really dont think that the Room of Requirement will offer any direct help to Harry with things like books or diagrams. Like i have said before in your thread, i dont think the RoR would have anything to pull because of Dumbledores wishes of keeping the topic of Hrocruxes out of the students minds
CAPS LOCK
in reply to Albus Dumbledor: yea i forgot that the RoR could only pull stuff from the school itself not just anywhere, well i guess that shoots down my theory i think i'll go with the mirrior one now
hp6
i think that this is a great idea...
im not sure if it will happen but its a neat theory, and it would be like jk to bring back something she introduced earlier, but even so would harry want to find the horcruxes more than see his parents? you cant fool the mirror.
CAPS LOCK
in agreement to hp6: yea i was also wondering that there is a good chance that it is not his hearts deepest desire to find the horcruxes. i think that his real desire is to defeat LV so i think that if harry looks into the mirrior he will se himself standing over lv with ginny in his arm or something not the location of the horcruxes
DiegoHork
You have to remember that the mirror only show you your deepest desire, that's why i think that the mirror works with legilimency. BUT, Dumbledore was able to put some of his magic in the mirror in order to give the philosopher's stone to somebody who wanted to protect it and not to use it.

So, the mirror only shows the deepest desires, but Dumbledore made the mirror do what HE wanted it to do.

We know that in book 7, Dumbledore (dead or alive) still have information to give Harry, and the mirror of Erised is a good way to help somebody whose deepest desire would be to destroy the horcruxes, or destroy Voldemort which is the same thing, after all.

About the location of the mirror, it is very possible that Dumbledore used the room of requirement to hide it. Once more, somebody who wants to destroy the horcruxes, will go to the RoR and walk by the door three times asking for help on that matter, and then the door will open and the mirror will be inside, waiting.

Diego
HP_RULES!
I guess it would be a little too easy if he looked into the mirror and saw the location of the horcruxes, it was just a thought. I guess it wouldn't really show him the location, it would just show himself holding the horcrux, or destroying Voldemort like many of you said. In the SS Voldemort wanted to find the ss and just saw himself holding it, not the location so I guess it might at least help him figure out what they are.

I don't think that the mirror is a horcrux because Voldemort would have hidden it, plus, DD wouldn't just leave it there, he'd try to destory it. If it was a horcrux then the mirror would have been really hard to get, it would be an obvious horcrux.
missmugglebethany
I think that the mirror will show harry the what and the where. now i think that the where will be vague images to point him in the right direction, i think thats why it took DD so long to find the locket. the only flaw i see in this is since the locket in the cave was a fake wouldnt he have seen images of grimmauld place? or would the mirror show the location where Volde hid them dont know. i just that i can see JK using the mirror in this way just not sure how it will work.
james pickles
Yeah. I don't think the location would be showed in the mirror because Dumbledore didn't know the location of the horcruxes as far as we know. Perhaps it would just give Harry all the information Dumbledore wanted Harry to know and perhaps just a hint about the horcruxes.
missmugglebethany
james i dont agree with you i dont think that the info from the mirror will make it easy at all.like i said i think it will give us vague pictures or images of where they are. the rest will be up to the trio or rather hermiones wit to figure it out. kinda like a compass just points them in the right direction
Galian
Im not sure what mirror JK was really refering to, the Mirror of Erised of the mirror which Harry and Sirius had.

I've seen people talkng about both of them. Its really quite confusing sleep.gif

As for the mirror of Erised being a horucrux, I dont think so.If DD used the mirror to hide the PS, he probably would have found out it was something else.
Pyro
I do think that it will come back in the 7th book because when he wanted the SS all he did was look in the mirror and it was there in his pocket, mabey the same will happen with the Horcuxs. Thats what I think will happen but Harry might have to have some help actully finding the mirror.
La MaitressedeMort
I think that it'd be really cool if the Mirror of Erised came back( here, cause I just finished reading that book :i show not your face but your heart's desire), though I'm not all that sure of how plausabile that might be. Still, if they do bring it back, I have a feeling it might have more to do with the anceint magick for which Dumbledore was so infamous (or famous, depending on how you look at it), though I'm still unsure about why. If it does come back, then, well, why? Do we want Harry to get drawn in by that thing again? A little reminder of his parents would be nice, but I don't think that having the Mirror of Erised would be the best idea, nor do I think that its very plausible either.

~La MaitressedeMort
ShinyBroomstick
but I thought it was destroyed...?

I honestly think that perhaps he'll look in it at the end and will see the way to defeat Voldemort.

Or, perhaps a way to save Ginny or another one of his friends.

Or, else, maybe it is a horcrux.

If Harry defeats Voldemort before going to the mirror, perhaps he'll look into the mirror and see himself, as Dumbledore said would happen if the happies man alive were to look into the mirror.

Or maybe, just maybe, he'll be able to talk to Sirius through that mirror like The Mirrors of Two Dimension, were a soul would be sucked into a hidden mirror and the only way out was through another mirror, either in another time, place or alternate universe.

But the souls could be contacted through the out mirror before they exited into that dimension.

I know its an odd Theory, but I have to believe that JKR has been following that idea when she made Sirius fall through the veil.
rachel_1989
to be honest, im not at all sure if the mirror will feature at all, it would be pretty cool if it did cuz it would be a nice link between harry's past and present/future but im not sure if there would be a place in the book for it, it would be far too easy for Harry if he could just see where the horcruxes are and i dont think that that's his hearts deepest desire, i think that is to just be happy with his friends and family without voldemort being alive or even for dumbledore to be back so that he had some help.
also,on your theory of sirius being stuck in a mirror, if that was the case then i think he would have fallen through a mirror and not a veil though i do think that JKR was following a theme with that and there will be some part of the story line coming from it but dumbledore has already said in the philosphers stone (sorcerors to the americans out there) and the goblet of fire that no magic could bring people back from the dead so if thats true theres no way sirius could come back unless it was as a ghost but nearly headless nick has already said that sirius wouldnt do that because he wasnt afraid to die.
just my thoughts...
rach xxx
Ministry-are-Morons
HP_RULES I agree with you in fact I can't believe I haven't spotted it before I mean he saw where the philosophers stone was so ya I think he could see a horcrux in the mirror
Chubbles
I don't think Harry's deepest desire is to find the horcruxes, I think his deepest desire is to kill Voldemort. When he lookse into the mirror (if he finds it al all), he will probably see himself killing Voldemort. However, this topic did give me a thought: what if the mirror shows how Harry will Kill Voldemort? Maybe the mirror will show if Harry has to use an unforgivable curse or not. Maybe it will show Harry making Voldemort walk through the veil or some other way of killing Voldemort.

Chubbles
ShinyBroomstick
I cannot see that happening.

Afterall, there's a chance he may come back again if he falls through the veil.

And we all want to know that he's never coming back again after ne dies so everyone can have a nice quiet, peaceful life, for what remains of it (well except Bill and Remus and Dumbledore and Sirius as of yet, because right now, they're all pretty stuck in a sucky life)
cnickelson
Oooh! I have thought about this for a long while, and I am so happy that I stumbled upon this thread. I too have heard that JKR has said the mirror will play a role in book 7. I do not think that it is a horcrux it's self, but it will be used to find them. I am also unsure if DD used it to find them. But think of the convienience. Just look into the mirror and it will show you exactly what it is that you are looking for. In Harry's Case, the Horcruxes. I think that it is also a simple solution for JKR to contain book 7 to under 1000 pages. Can you imagine if they somehow had to actually figure out what they are and wherer they are al hidden? My goodness... I am not sure that I would have enough room on my book shelf.
DrUnKeN Dobby
Yes it is very possible but how he's going to find the mirror is beyond me :S
rachel_1989
Yes, it's possible but unlikely, it's too easy, this is the last book, JKR is going to want to make them earn their rewards, etc and so she isn't likely to just say "here, look into this mirror and you'll know exactly where the next horcrux is." Yeah, she could make it difficult for them to find the mirror, but the horcruxes really need to be difficult to show Voldemort's ability as a wizard even if he's a dark wizard.
Polandbaby16
I think rachel is right, JK wont make it easy, and i dont think harry will think of using the missor of erised, he will find another way. no doubt about it, but it will be hard, because as rachel said jk will make LV look like a powerfull wizard.
rachel_1989
Thank you, she will want to make him look like a powerful wizard in order to make him look like a worthy adversary for Harry and to make it more understandable should Harry die/fail(not goona happen but is off topic so that doesn't matter so much...) I still think that the Mirror will come into it in some way, just not in the sense that it points them straight to the horcruxes, after all I'm not sure that that is Harry's heart's deepest desire (Ginny, being with his family, Sirius being alive, Dumbledore being alive, etc could all outweigh his desire to destroy Voldemort)
Spencer Potter
I dont the Mirror of Erised will come back, I mean he used it once, thats all. It moved to another home, enough explanation, maybe where?? Who knows, what would he need it for? It will be to much confusion.
La MaitressedeMort
Desire! Well, we can be sure that Dumbledore never desired more than anything esle in the world, a nice pair of wool socks, but what did he desire, you ask? Well, like somebody said before, it could have been the Horcurxs, as some of you also think that Harry now desires more than anything else in the world, though I'm a skeptic, so I say no. Harry wants the Dark Lord to suffer as he has suffered, its a classic symptom of loss (Harry believes that no one can understand the pain he is going through, though I'm sure he's wrong, and that he has to kill the Dark Lord to make his own pain seem less), which is kinda sad when we remember who Harry was back in the first novel. Wow, how did something about Sirius get stuck in here? Huh, anyways, I think that Harry, who has been so riddled with loss, suffering, grief, and pain, just wants it all to go away, and he's going to do whatever it takes to make it so, and he believes that the only way he can get rid of this pain is to destroy the Dark Lord, which isn't a foolish thought at all, it's really quite sane. So, yes, he might be able to look into the Mirror of Erised, and see the horcruxz, but will he be able to deduce their positions, or will he only see himself holding the, the Dark Lord defeated, his life returned to normal? Because of the enchantments of the Mirror, I cannot say what he will see (remember, I follow the Dark Lord!) Wow, 1000 pages on Harry Potter in one binding.... Sorry, that's a little too much for me, it's like the release of all three Lord of the Rings' movies, both editions, on the same day! Yeah, that was amazing, but back to the Mirror. If Rowling says that it's going to play a part, then it will no matter how small, though I have a feeling that there's going to be something with the Horcruyxs, and Harry's vision, which I also have a feeling will only frustrate him more than it already has.

~La MaitressedeMort
The Chosen Captain
i do not think that by seeing the mirror he will see the exact locations of the horcruxes.. what he might see is: the horcruxes according to him or he might see all horcruxes destroyed along with voldy. even then i really don't think that it will be mentioned again
zeda
just concerning Dumbledore and what he saw in the mirror.
he said himself that he saw himself holding a pair of wooly socks because everyone always gets him books and stuff.
-ginny-da-cat-
tongue.gif sorry if theer is already a thread about this but i don't want to know how harry will use this mirror but what readers think has happend to the mirror.

1) does anyone know what dd did with it after harry battled quirrel in the first book?

2) where will the mirror be now?

3) will it get smashed or something?

my bet is the death eaters will smash it in the final war or something!

what do you lot think? biggrin.gif
wicked_witch667
Thats a great thought! smile.gif We didnt actually hear much of the enchanted mirror after Philosopher's stone did we? Maybe its a way JKR is using to attract as less attention as possible from the readers. I still dont exactly know what happened to it after dumbledore told harry that its going somewhere safer where no one will be able to see it. It might be somewhere dumbledore knows best and is mainly deserted... how about No.12 Grimmauld place? I dont reckon the mirror will get smashed before we even see it in Book 7 (If we see it that is)

Dumbledore used the power if the mirror in a way that protected the philosopher's stone. Here's what he said to harry:

[quote]It was one of my more brilliant ideas, and between you and me, thats saying something. You see only who wanted to find the stone- find it but not use it- would be al to get it, other wise they'd just see themselves making gold or drinking elixer of life. My brain suprise me sometimes...(PS17)[quote]

So this can conclude in several possiblities:

• If harry finds the mirror again he might be able to protect himself from voldemorte or his death eaters

• He can use it to [/u]Find the final horcrux without using[u] it just like he did with the philosophers stone!

Dumbledore might've already known that the future use of the stone might be something like that and he might've hidden somewhere safe for harry to retrieve it from.

Thats what i think on this topic. Mind you it might not be completely reliable untill book 7 comes out tongue.gif
D.A
wow wicked_witch667 great theory on the horcrux bit thumbsup.gif

although one thing is bothering me...um well if dumbledore put that spell on the mirror for the philosophers stone so no one could find it if they wanted to use it..how would he have known to do that for the horcruxes??..how did he even know harry was going to see the mirror (if it does in fact come into play in the last book)

other than that i quite like the idea of it being at grimauld place happy.gif ..or mayb it is at the ministry ??

D.A happy.gif
wicked_witch667
Im not sure on that one sleep.gif But if harry does discover the mirror again he might be able to perform the samesort spell that Dumbledore used on the philosopher's stone to protect himself... for the horcrux hmmm ... well it might be a completely different thing for all we know so i might be completely wrong there smile.gif I like the idea of it being in the ministry too, he was a wizengamot elder and the ministry has far too much security so i suppose that'll fit in well smile.gif
D.A
i hope it does help him later on though!! happy.gif

some people said it got destroyed but i never remember reading that! ohmy.gif
i think if it is in the ministry then they might be studying it!...i cant remember what thread it was but i do remember someone sayin that the room with the veil had the benches for people to sit (like the courtroom place) and they said it was like where they would sit and learn about the veil....i like to think that that theory is true!..so mayb they are studying the mirror...hmmm other than that i cant think of where it would be!..if indeed it hasnt been destroyed!

but i think the fact it hasnt been mentioned since book 1 means it could be used...i hope so! happy.gif

D.A blush.gif
thatsProfessortoyou
I think it's in the room of requirement with all the other stuff.

I love the idea of using it to find the horcuxes!!!

Could Harry use it to get clues from DD? I know that people seen can't communicate in words but perhaps in visions?
Snuffalupagous
The Mirror of Erised would be very usefull to harry in finding out what all the horcruxes are. Alot of people say it would help find the horcruxes but remember the Mirror only shows us are hearts desirer. It would show harry with the horcruxes or maybe just him defeating LV but it would not show him where the horcruxes are. I believe Jo' or someone said that the Mirror would come back in the last book.
Spencer Potter
I agree, maybe he will use it, but DD didnt know Harry was going to find the mirror, Harry found the PS in his pocket because he wanted it but not to use it. Thats what he said at the end. tongue.gif
Snuffalupagous
QUOTE
agree, maybe he will use it, but DD didnt know Harry was going to find the mirror, Harry found the PS in his pocket because he wanted it but not to use it. Thats what he said at the end.



Yes that it true for the philosophers stone. But the power of the Mirror is is to show us a hearts desirer. So theoretically it should show harry what the last two remaining unknown horcruxes are.
-ginny-da-cat-
great ideas guys.

i personlly think (hope) that it will still be hidden at hogwarts some-where, and i realy do hope we get to see it again, it was a very powerful magical item JK can't just wipe it from the story i think!

ginny da cat -x
yelmosleh
i think that mirror hasn't been destroyed yet, and that harry will use it to find the horcruxes, if that is what his heart most desires, and i agree with -ginny-da-cat-, what if it is still in the entrance of the third corridor, it never said that the third corridor dissappeared, did it? unsure.gif
yelmosleh
YES, FINALLY I FIND SOMEONE WHO AGREES!!!!!!!!! biggrin.gif

YES, FINALLY I FIND SOMEONE WHO AGREES!!!!!!!!! biggrin.gif
harry&&ginny4ever
Alright, alright. We've learned so much about this mirror, that I personally do not see the purpose of it coming back again. Maybe the occasional reference to it or one of the ideas taken from it, or something we learned from it, but to have the actual mirror itself come back seems too repetetive. Also, didn't Dumbledore say something about it being hidden away towards the end of the 1st book?
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