I'm a little disapointed because it doesn't look likely that they will include Bill or Charlie in the next films, as there is no one cast for the roles. I could be wrong, and probably am, but I just think that as they have cut so much out of the films already, (like not mentioning the Maurauders being Remus, Peter, Sirius, & James) it doesn't look likely that they will include them in the next films. As I have been reading the books, whenever there is mention of Bill or Charlie, it is generally avoided in the films. So, I'm not counting on them being in the next films, but will certainly hope that I am wrong! If you have any information as to whether or not they will include them, please voice your opinion! I'd love to hear it!



Angel

Well I think it is way too early to be writing off Bill and Charlie for HBP. They have not even written the first draft of the screenplay much less start casting characters. I think after OotP comes out, we can start discussing who will be eliminated and who will not be in this movie.

I do not recall Charlie playing a role in HBP. Bill on the other hand does play a big role near the end with his battle with Fenrir. Depending on what JKR does with that in the last book, Bill may or may not get cut. If Bill is non-existent in the last book, I bet he will be eliminated from the HPB movie.

Angel welcome!

And about Bill and Charlie, maybe Charlie wont be mentioned because we dont know anything about him other then that he is in Romania studying dragons and hes Rons older brother. But you have to mention Bill because of Fleur marrying him and being apart of the Order and protecting Harry. And him being attacked by a werewolf. Almost a whole chapter is about him in the hospital wing and his parents and siblings and friends mourning over him.

So I do think Bill will be recognised but not Charlie, maybe we'll learn more about him in the 7th book or movie.

they better include bill and charlie!

i imagine bill as being very attractive, rebellious even, charlie would be more husky but hott, like a rugby player or a hockey player.

i hope they do cast people for the roles and i hope they are attractive

I'm just saying that they haven't included them in the other films, and they have not cast anyone as far as I know. Well, I do think that Bill is very much more important that Charlie, but I still would like to see them both in the upcoming fims.

I understand clearly what your saying but what I am saying, They have to include Bill. Hes not a minor or a major role hes inbetween, but almost a whole chapter is about him in the wing and Fleur and Mrs.Weasley fighting why they should or shouldnt get married.

Yeah, i hope you are right. That's something that I would really like to see go into the film.

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i agree wil...Spencer Potter they have to include Bill in the 6ht movie Harry Potter And The Half-Blood Prince, first off he gets attacked but Greyback so he might be a werewolf who knows. Second Bill And Fleur are getting married they need to add that because at the end of the 6th book ron tell harry, that harry is staying for Bill and Fleur's wedding before he goes off for his horcrux hunt

Bill & Charlie were supposed to be in Goblet of Fire and niether of them were. That was disappointing. Bill never met Fleur, so how is their wedding supposed to work? Something has to happen in the fifth movie, right? I would be really disappointed if they arent in any of the movies...they are supposed to be.

EXACTLY my point!! That's why I'm seriously doubting that they will include very much of them, seeing as how they have cut out alot of stuff already from the other films that I found very nessesary to keep. So, my thoughts are more along the lines of what they will do, not what needs to be done because of the book.

Considering how long the 6th (and 7th) movies will be, it wouldn't surprise me if the entire Bill and Fleur subplot is removed. I guess it depends on whether the events at the Wedding in Book 7 are significant and unmovable, or whether they can be done a different way, or cut out entirely. Of course, making that call depends upon Book 7 being out before Book 6 is filmed...

yeah well use maybe rite we dont realy here much of them like in the gof flm all hagrid says is that rons brother and says the name i cnt member brought them over from romania didnt ron tell u that and thats the only mention of one of the older brothers

i know. i was so anxious to see bill and charlie. i wouldn't be suprised if they cut out bill and fluer's subplot is removed. they cut out a lot of important things from Gof like rita skeeter being a unauthorized animagi and hermione and S.P.E.W.

Well with Bill they have not showed him once (same with Charlie though) so im thinking they may not show him in the hospital. I dont know if they will mention him being attacted or not but it would be weird seeing someone who we dont know laying in a bed with people saying he is rons brother. Depending on how big of a roll the wedding is in the 7th book i am thinking they will not picture bill. I also think this because if they didnt picture him in GOF then the small roll he plays in HBP probly will not be reconized.

Same with charlie, since he was not pictured in POA or GOF i dont think he will play a roll (not that he really has one in HBP anyway).

I think thats the way i wanted to word this...

I'm also hoping that Bill and Charlie make an appearance soon. I can just see Bill as tall and slender and just plain drop-dead gorgeous - what else would grab the attention of a one-quarter Veela like Fleur? A quiet sort of guy with a permanent half-smile and a certain something about him to make grown women look thoughtful. Even if that plotline is dropped almost entirely, I think we at least deserve an "introduction". In the newspaper photo of Ron and the Weaselys' holiday in Egypt, there are additional older male characters shown, but while one looks like a possible Charlie (kind of chunky and dependable-looking), I don't see "cool" Bill.

I think Bill really has to be in HBP if Fluer will be, and in OotP they could mention that the pair of them are dating, if that's in their it points to Bill being in HBP. But I think he really will be in there if they have the wedding in the 7th movie, which is probally going to be to character imporant to cut.
As for Charile, he might be in the 7th movie.

are they adding them to the fifth? although i hope that they'll be in the 6th they have to be because of the wedding

what do you think?

They can't do that! Besides, its not suppose to come out until Novemberr 2008! 2 whole years from now! Also, Bill and Fleur are very importaint at the end of the book/movie! But, where did you hear this???

There's a chance that neither will be added to the last film. Especially Charlie. I'd actually be suprised if he were cast. Bill is another story though. He's a pretty significant character in HBP and it would seem silly for them to leave him out. Although, look at what they've done with loads of other stuff from the books. Like the marauders in POA! I still dont understand why they left that whole thing out.

Anyways, I just want to say that I think Ewan McGregor would make a perfect Bill.

It really annoys me when the directors for Harry Potter cut out any character or scenes from the movie. It can make the story hard to follow. It also is a big let down.

^ I agree. It's a huge let down. It'll be even harder since they're Weasley's! Everyone loves the Weasley's and they play a pretty significant part in the story, so to see any of them cut out is pretty brutal.
I still will be suprised to see Charlie in the film though.

are they in the other book? we know that bill is because he is getting maried. but i can't remember
but i can't remember if charlie is in it

As far as I know, Charlie's only been mentioned in the books. I don't think he's ever actually shown up.
I'm new to HP though, so if I'm wrong, please correct me!

I can't remember which, but wasn't one of them shown in the Order of the Phoenix talking to Sirius (or someone else)? Wasn't another sent to get the dragon from Hagrid in the first book too?

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The friends that took the dragon from Hagrid did not include Charlie. As far as I know, Charlie was never considered a friend of Hagrid. I believe that was Norbert, the dragon Hagrid raised from an egg.

Charlie does make an appearance in GOF. He helped bring the dragons for the first task. But, in the movie, even though people are shown working with the dragons in the forest, none are identified. Charlie has been a pretty minor character throughout the entire series. I would like to see him, but will be surprised if they bring him up now.

Bill on the other hand does make a significant appearance in HBP. So, his part would be more difficult to cut. But, butchering the story lines has been constant, so don't hold your breath. If they do keep in the Bill/Fleur story I hope they recast Fleur. The girl who played Fleur in GOF was incredibly off as far as looks. One of the worst mistakes to date in my opinion.

As for Ewen McGregor, wouldn't he be a bit old for the part of Bill?

You're right. It wouldn't be suprising if they cut Bill out of the film. They've done a c.rap job so far of keeping to the story.
Ewan might be a little old to play Bill, but he doesn't exactly look that old. How old is Bill supposed to be exactly? I'm assuming late 20's. I think Ewan could pull it off. He just has this Weasley vibe to him

I just took a look at some photos of McGregor on imdb and he does look younger than I had remembered. If they gave him a nice red ponytail and that fang earring, he would probably be terrific. I think the wig that Jason Isaacs wears transforms him completely.

I sort of pictured Bill to be no more than 23-25. If he finished Hogwarts at 17-18, depending on his birthday, and I thought I read that he had been out of there about 5 years, than he would be younger than his character seems. I believe Charlie is 1-2 years older than him, so they both are still quite young. I suppose in the wizarding world the young people mature faster.

All this waiting is painful!!

If they don't include Bill and Charlie in the movies I swear I'm gonna be soooo mad!!

I hope that they do include Bill and Charlie in the next films. Well I think that they have to have Bill in the next films only because of his wedding with fleur and the whole fight between him and fenir and the whole thing where he was in the hospital wing because he got attacked by fenir. So I think that Bill will be in the next films but I dunno about Charlie, unless we see him in the 7th film at Bill and fleurs' wedding. But I hope that they don't exclude Bill and Charlie in the next films.



*Sirius*

[size=7]I doubt that they'll be in it because They have cut out so many important things . I mean like Dobby and Winky, S.P.E.W., Norbert and so on.

They won't be in it.

i dont think there is really anyway they can avoid bill in the HBP. hes in the scene where everyone finds out DD is dead and where we find out tonks doesnt love sirius.

Plus, he gets attacked by Greyback. I think that's a huge deal. It's a very big part of the story. They can't just leave Bill out. They'd be stupid if they did!

i really hope that bill is in HBP as he plays a gd part at the end with the battle and cuts etc etc

i was really disapointed hen bill and charlie were cut from GOF so i hope they keep bill in HBP

I figure that they would have a hard time leaving Bill out of HBP because of him getting attacked at the end and also because of his relationship with Fleur which is important to the sixth book.

However, i have a feeling that Charlie will be cut because he does not have a significant role in the book and the movie will still be fine without his presence.

I agree, that Bill really needs to be in. They're might put in Charile in DH, it really depends on who's directing it and if they'd like to put that in or not.

Bill's Wedding is significant in Deathly Hallows. I'm not telling yoou any more. If they just cast for maybe one scene for him and Fleur it will set up for the next movie. I just hope hes in it!

I could understand that they would cut out Charlie, he doesn't have a big part in the book but if they cut Bill, I will be very, very upset how can they have Greyback and not have Bill! It doesn't make sense! And itf they cut Fleur, I really witll be mad.

they would cut CHarlie for sure i think, but it's seem Bill and Fluer gonna be there since it's an important role and the actress who play Fluer expressed interest in returning.

I mean it won't take much running time, atleast some thing brief about the wedding would be good enough, it does not have to go into details about Ginny and Mrs. Weasley dislike of Fleur.

They really should cast a Bill and a Charlie because they do play big roles in the books. Especially Bill (SPOILER), because he marries Fleur in book 7 and thats where alot of action comes in. Charlie, I suppose is important but I feel that Bill is the most important.

-Lidaya

As quoted by Alfonso Quaran (have i spelt that right?) 'as long as it doesn't contradict what is to come'. That i think is how decisions should be made. For instance if we didn't have Kreacher in the fifth movie then they would have had a tough time in film seven because of the house elf's significance in the final book. I cant say any more because it would be a spoiler. I think it doesn't matter if Bill or Charlie are not in the film because as long as their nonexistance does not contradict how the story is gonna be told it doesn't realy matter. But if they do at least include bill weasley then it would be cool coz i really want to ce what he looks like. The problem with having bill weasley is that it also means we have to make way for Fleur too and i don't think that the movie makers are gonna sit and enjoy referring to how Bill and fleur met and got engaged when they've got the rest of this plot to worry about.
Maybe they will mention him, but i wouldn't be too sure.

What do you mean monkey mushroom man? Bill and Fleur contradict with the story.... SPOILER: In the seventh book you need there wedding so the Trio can get the message and escape, All you would need is one scene setting it up! thats all, and then we can have to wedding in the next movie

I'm pretty sure they won't put Charlie in any film. I wouldn't if i was them.
But Bill...it's forbidden not to put him, in my point of view

Oh, I didn't actually mean i LITERALLY believe that Bill and Fleur might contradict the story. Actually, i didn't say they would contradict atall, i was giving an example of how some things aren't needed and if Bill and Fleur's wedding absence WOULD NOT contradict the story it may not be such a loss if they weren't in it. But, i was sincerely pointing out that if it was contradicting the story then they would put them in. Its aas simple as that!; as long as we and the directors can say that we need Bill and Fleur to fill out the story then, yes, we can can safely say they will be in it.

I have to admit that although they should have a Charlie, I doubt they'll get round to it. But Bill on the other hand, they must get someone to play him because the Bill-Fleur thing (no matter how much i hate it) takes up quite a bit of the book, and Clemenc Posey has been hoping to come back i think.

Hey guys, I thought you might want to see that Link to weasley pic

It shows two other people on that must have played Bill and Charlie in this little big of the third film... according to Wikipedia their names are;
Bill;Richard Fish
Charlie;Alex Crockford

Yeah, i've seen that pic, but i don't think they're gonna be the ones to come back. I think the charlie one looks good looking - he's the skinny one on the left; he's soo cute. I think Charlie has always been my favourite character against Bill.
I should hope they are gonna bring in Bill Weasley for the next film. We wuld be extremely lucky if they brought in Charlie as well, but i wouldn't put our hopes on it.
I know i can't wait to see the next film if they do decide to cast Bill as well as Fleur.

I really think they need to have Bill in the movie, because don't the Death Eaters attack at his wedding? I mean, they'll probably cut him because the directors are glame, but I really hope they don't.

I have a feeling that they aren't going to include Bill and Fleur in the movie. Which would really stink because the wedding is a huge part in the seventh book! but they have never shown Bill before...and they have to cut out lots of stuff to make it an appropriate length for a movie. But I am just guessing, and I hope I'm wrong.

You know, i think this is one of those times where you get a major scene like The Wedding and it turns out it won't play as much a part in the movie. Its like they do in all movies - most of the time anyway - and what seems like an important part of the story actually isn't atall that important. I know what you're all gonna say: "Bill and Fleur's Wedding contributes alot to the story, not to mention in the scene somewhere more than half way through the book, and how can you say they are not atall important?". What i'm saying here is if you imagine the seventh movie how it might be without the wedding you can easily play it out like this:
(This is a SPOILER by the way so look away now if you do not want to read the contents of this list of happenings)
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1. You can have Harry and all his escorts arrive at The Weasleys and you see them all settling in. Harry, Ron and Hermione are quietly planning their trail to finding and destroying the horcruxes.
2. Somewhere along the line Death eaters break in and take everyone in the weasley house hostige, except Harry, Ron and Hermione who luckily escape.

I agree. You're right. I guess it isn't that big of a part in the book. Well it sort of is, but it won't be a big deal to take out of the movie.
Still would be a pity if they left it out though.