in the entire series dumbledore tells harry that he has a power Voldemort could never know, love, now harry does'nt understand how that can help him. im sure few except J.K. Rowling Know, but i think i have somewhat understand it. i think that this comes to help him in a desperate fight agianst lord Voldemort the death eaters joined voldemort for two reasons one they shared a same belief two because of fear, the fear that if voldemort won the whol world as the knew it would come to an end. i think that the reason harry will prevail is that the people that fight beside him fight beside him for love not because if harry prevails he will kill there loved ones but because they know what they fight for is right. I think that voldemorts followers will be fighting in a battle beside voldemort but when they see they are losing they flee because they do not love voldemort as harrys friends love him.

any thoughts?

yes that does make sense and I beleive that is part of what JKR is going for. Harry can love therefore he can empower those fighting alongside him with that love and they will fight all the more fierce. Harry ability of Love may help him with more ancient magic. In the DoM, in the locked room, i believe harry will find spells that involve the use of Love. Just like the Patronus needs a happy thought to be produced, this spell will need love to be produced and in itself will be some sort of the ancient magic. I dont think this is what will kill LV but will surely harm him.

AD your right

but i also have a different thought

The Room that was locked contained a force ...Love said dumbledore well how would harry Destroy the Horcruxes Dumbledore didnt say that(in the book not the big AD on the forums) but i think that he will finally find the power within himself and somehow find the horcruxes and not destroy them but Harm voldemort enough that in the end he will destroy them and LV will be weak and Harry Will Destroy him

Do you think that because HArry can love and needs all the power that love can get, he will be able to open the locked door (sort of in a Mirror of Erised way)? I think he will be able to use this love to battle Voldy.

In the end of the 5th book he finally knew what the big AD was saying all along he can love and LV cant so if the DE die LV will not care but if LV kills one of harry's friend harry will find the inner power

i dont know whether to take that as a compliment or worse!! haha Im just teasing you Death Eater Snape

Back to the topic.. I will have to agree that Harry will most likely have to use the force held within the room to aid him in destroying the Horcruxes! I dont know how he will do this, or more important, how JKR will write this without it getting cheesy...

J.K.R is a extremely good writer on my list she is number 1 rivalling with Dan Brown

but in the 4th book i should have said this before but when Cedric dies and harry has to duel Voldemort he is LV is saying "i want to see the lights leave your eyes" and "Such a Pitiful loss"

and Harry went like "DOnt Touch him" and he rivaled Voldemorts power

LV only hates so Hate and Love are like the Opposite but so the same

LV and Harry are so different but the same in some ways i think that is what J.K.R is trying to get at

You'Ve got a point, we know Harry and LD are very different, but are also alike, just like Love and Hate. But the difference between Harry and LD is that Harry can hate someone but LD cannot love someone. I thiink this will be very important in the future...IN OoF, when AD is fighting LD, AD doesn't want to kill him, he has got pity of him, which is in fact some kind of Love isn'T it ? I think this is what Harry will find in the "Love Room" : The power to love (Well have pity) LD which will make him more powerful that LD... Is it possible ?

I am confused. Who is LD? Do you mean LV for Lord Voldemort?

Assuming this is what you meant, I still don't think Harry could ever love Voldemort. He might pity him (as Dumbledore questioned Harry in Half Blood Prince). But love and pity are not the same thing.

You may pity a homeless person, but that does not mean you love them.

i see what ur saying with the love thing however i dont htink it has soo much to do with his friends but more to do with his mother and the protection that she placed on him when she died. i think it may be a little more deeper than just the fact that lv cannot touch him.

I think that Harry would come and defeat Voldemort with love, as it has already been predicted, but I don't think that Voldemort's followers would leave Voldemort during the battle because they don't love him. That just doesn't make a lot of sense. I mean they could leave Voldemort because they fear that the life of Voldemort is at an end, but I just don't think that they would abandon him out of love. Unless Bellatrix does...Just a theory.



*Sirius*

I think the original point of this topic is a good one--that Voldemort will be surrounded by people who fear him, whereas Harry will be surrounded by people who love him--and that will be Voldemort's downfall. However, I don't think that Jo has to get really cheesy to make this type of situation work.

A lot of what Dumbledore says to Harry implies not just that Harry can "love" but that despite all the [mod edit] that's happened to him, he's retained his humanity. Lord Voldemort had slytherin blood--unstable, prone to temper, all that, and then got abandoned in an orphanage to live a lonely, hard existence. He turned into a power hungry, evil man. Harry has a muggle-born mother, his parents were killed and he had to put up with abusive, crazy family members for most of his live (in addition to being stalked by the most evil wizard who ever lived.) He loses his parents, his godfather, a classmate and eventually Dumbledore, but he doesn't turn into a crazy hating machine the way Voldemort did. He still retains his humanity--and his ability to love--and that's the ultimate weapon he has against Voldemort. To me, that doesn't sound cheesy--just sort of sad.

I also think that the locked room in the DofM will play a role in DH. Maybe Harry will lure Voldemort there and then expose him to that power, maybe Harry will channel that power somehow.

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I agree with Overtheocean. I mean you have a good point how Harry is not totally like Voldemort because he doesn't hate everyone like Voldemort does. And how Voldemort's followers are scared of him and how the people that help Harry, Harry loves them for being there for him. So I totally agree with Overtheocean.



*Sirius*

I don't think that Harry will use the power in the room of the Department of Mysteries. I think that someone he loves *coughs* Ginny *coughs* will die and then he'll turn around and face Voldemort and then with all his hate for Voldemort kill him because of his love for whoever did *cough* Ginnt *
cough*. Hopefully that made sense. (i find myself saying that a lot)

~dawlishlover42

I agree with the idea that love could be what is concealed in the locked door. As DD has pointed out, it is a powerful magic that LV doesn't understand. In GoF LV uses Harrys blood to "rebirth" himself thinking that this will give him the power and ability to harm Harry. However this conversation you have been having makes me think that the "gleam in Dumbledores eye" at the end of GoF could be that him doing that only made LV more succeptable to that power.

Eh... it's a thought.

I agree with this... Vodemort had Death Eaters because they share the idea that muggle borns are bad and most, I think, joined because they were afraid, they were afraid that if he did gain power the world would end, but they thought that if they joined him and then the world did end then they would be on his side so he couldn't hurt them.
Harry on the other hand, he is surrounded by people who love him, like his friends, and they are willing to risk everything to help him. Voldemort doesn't have anyone like this, execpt maybe Bella, but shes a crazy girl ...

I don't think that Harry will use the force in the room, I think that he will use the power inside him. But I do think that we will find out that Lily worked in that room...

And I think that, as it has been mentioned before, I think that having people that love him help Harry will have its advantages. If one of Voldemorts Death Eaters dies then he won't care. If one of Harry's friends die, then he will be very upset and he'll want to hurt the person who did...

And for that reason I think that Voldemort might kill Ron or Hermione, and that will make Harry mad enough to kill him.

OO,oo, sorry if some one has already put this forward, but I just thought it and i was so excited i had to put it down immediately!!

i reckon, as someone else suggested, Lily was working on the power of love and ancient magic powered by it, within the department of mysteries. i think harry gos there and learns some massive ancient magic that can only be used by someone with the ability to love. the spell would be to, i dont know, irradicate all evil from the the thing it is directed at. but when harry casts it on voldemort, he died, because he is EVIL, through and so once the evil has been killed, there's nothing of him left.


you follow?

That is a theory, and I think that it is just as likely as the next, Fizz. I really don't know how love will defeat Voldemort, but I think it will, and you all have some good theroys.

Pff,probably love will help harry in the batles.Yes,is true is a great power that voldemort don`t have ,but is the most strogest wizard...so we have to analize this situation..
Whatever,dumbledore talked to him(harry),he said that harry could be more strogest,and it`s definitely true ...but we will see....

~And it is a good thought indeed. I absolutely think that when Lord Voldemort used Harry's blood to regenerate in GoF, he thought he had made it possible to finally kill Harry. The blood protection was no longer going to be an issue because they now share the same blood. I think that goodness and love runs through Harry's veins and that when Harry allows himself to fully feel it for everyong he loves or has loved, not just Ginny, that Voldemort may feel it too.
I think that Voldemort has always had the power to kill Harry but placed to much emphasis on it being a spell like Avada Kedavera. If he would have found other ways, he wouldn't have been so concerned about the blood aspect and would have kept himself safe from the power he knows not...love. Gosh, I hope that made sense...it does in my mind

ooo i'm with you on this one! maybe the love in harry's blood slowly weakens him from within? or reawakens his more human nature? oooo

True with all that, but also remember that Voldemort HATES love. In the Fifth book, He couldnt stay in Harry because Harry had a loving thought. Harry's mother saved him. It is an ancient magic that Voldemort overlooked.

well, i think theres definately more to it than just harry can love so hes stronger. end of. theres been too much emphasis on how powerful love really is. it wont be just something that helps harry in a fight, itl be what wins the fight for harry (he WILL win ****).

Hey Nevillesgirl! I just want to say hats off to you for your incredible insight! The "triumphant gleam" in DD's eyes in the fourth book has been frustrating me! Your theory makes perfect sense! I can finally rest my mind on this issue.

yeah...that gleam in Dumbledore's eyes had me pondering, too...we know that Dumbledore completed whatever spell kept Harry safe and Privet Drive the night LV tried to kill him when he ws a baby, and we also know that that spell was the one Lily started by sacrificing herself for her son...

Dumbledore always seems to know what LV will think of next (to me at least), so what if that night, before he left Harry with the Dursleys, Dumbledore also completed another spell because he knew at some point LV would try to use Harry's blood to come back to life?

I dont know, though, and trust me, this all sounds much more clear in my head

Hi this is my first ever post!!

Dumbledore said that there was a room in the d.o.m that is kept locked at all times and contains a force that harry has in large quantities and voldermort has none of. i think it's the room that harry and the others couldn't open and contains love and in the deathly hallows harry will perhaps go back to the department of mysteries and use the power to kill voldermort. The only problem is i don't know how he will get into the room of love?!

as dd said love is a greater power than magic it's weird but it's true love always defended harry and not only when voldy used legilimency but voldy could never touch harry because of the love he has in his blood before he shared his blood voldemort has never loved his selfishness was over all he did never love his most loyal death eaters but harry loved girls friends his parents dumbledore evryone who loved him

I don't know why, but even though DD clearly stated that the power was to love, I still though that it was going to be like a power or something (not an emotional feeling). Right now I'm getting over that, and it turns out that love is/was everywhere, except around LV. Well maybe it was just not in him.

I think love helped Harry in the end in a number of ways. Narcissa loved her son so much that she risked everything to get back into the castle to find him, even lying to her master saying that Harry was dead. Dumbledore made sure Harry wasn't alone in the chapter The Forest again, he gave him the tool to call his loved ones to him which I think gave him the strength to face what he thought would be the final battle. And like the original post says, Voldemort's followers did not love him and were only bound to him through fear (most of them anyway) but Harry's friends would never desert him because they loved him.