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HP number one Fan
I was sitting on the bus and thinking about harry potter today (as you do laugh.gif ) and I suddently thought to myself...Is Peter Pettigrew actually a Death Eater and does he have the dark mark?

I mean yeah he is scared of Voldemort but he has been helping Voldemort an aweful lot. If he isn't a Death Eater then why bother? Do think he has the Dark Mark on his left fore arm like the rest?
Voldemort tends to have a pattern that his followers/servents are only Slytherin's mainly because he believe's that Slytherin's the only true wizards being "pure-bloods" but then why is he so desperately clinging onto Wormtail??? Wormtail told him about where the Potters were hiding and surly that is enough information but then why did Peter return to Voldemort at the end of book 3? And why does Voldemort use him so much for his dirty work? Peter was a Gryffindor and not all Gryiffindors get on with Slytherins do they?

I am so confused about this issue what do you think????
Spencer Potter
happy.gif happy.gif Have you watched the 4th movie yet? If not, yes he is. Did you see the dark mark on his wrist, well thats a sign of a Death Eater. Theres your answer. happy.gif
HP number one Fan
Ahhh I never realised that he had the Dark Mark on his left forearm... blink.gif I must watch the DvD again... laugh.gif and read the 4th book. I can't really remember J.K.Rolwling mentioning it in the book. But why would Vodemort choose a Gryffindor...hmph! huh.gif unsure.gif wacko.gif
Harry_Ginny777
yes he is a death eater in the fourth movie it sorts it all out and it is not on their wrist it is one they left for arm right in the middle it is a skull will a snake coming out of it's mouth it is pretty cool if i may say so myself. so yeah Petter AKA Wormtail is a death eater AKA one of Lord Voldemort's Followers.
HP number one Fan
Ohh yes I saw it and went back to the fourth book for reference it is true. But why wormtail? He is a Gryffindor! He did seem useful at the time to give Voldemort inforamtion about the Potters but I would have thought that Voldemort would have killed him after that instead of making him a death eater. blink.gif
Spencer Potter
Under the influence of Voldemort that he is evil but does it for good? Harry saved Wormtails life if you dont remember in movie/book 3, Lupin and Sirius when to go kill Wormtail but Harry said no.. So yah. Wormtail also said that he has dangerous weapons.. And what would of they done if Voldemort put them in that situation. Possibly Wormtail will go back to the good side and squeak(lol) on Voldemort about what hes doing.. happy.gif
Golden Phoenix
Pettigrew is a Death Eater and he does have the Dark Mark... remember when Voldemort used Pettigrew's mark to contact all the other death eaters at the end of GOF? I'm not sure how long he'd been one before that though... I mean he wouldn't have had a chance to return to Voldemort before POA so I think that was probably when he was given the mark, unless he was one before then... somehow, I don't think he was.
Demented Dementor
In Goblet of Fire, Voldemort summons the Death Eaters with a Dark Mark on Peter Pettigrews wrist. You only get that if you are a deatheater also, you said he only picks slytherins.

He has werewolves who never even attended hogwarts, giants who have never even attended school, and he also has people like Igor Karkoroff, who arent even from England, you do not have to be in Slytherin to get in.
Hiraya
Since it's already been established by the others that he is a Death Eater, I'd like to give my 2 cents on why he is one.

QUOTE(HP number one Fan @ Aug 18 2006, 10:52 PM) [snapback]214215[/snapback]

But why wormtail? He is a Gryffindor! He did seem useful at the time to give Voldemort inforamtion about the Potters but I would have thought that Voldemort would have killed him after that instead of making him a death eater. blink.gif


My answer is, why not? It shows us that "evilness" is not restricted to the Slytherins, and consequently, not all Slytherins are evil. Peter is a Gryffindor, yes, but that doesn't mean he has to be the epitome of goodness and bravery. I would even hazard a guess that there are Hufflepuff and Ravenclaw DEs as well.

Voldemort doesn't kill Peter because he is useful to him, it's as simple as that. Without Peter, he wouldn't have been able to get his body back, right? So I'd say that Voldemort doesn't pick his followers on whether or not they are Slytherin, but rather on how useful they could be to him. He is evil after all. He's a user. smile.gif
HP number one Fan
QUOTE(Hiraya @ Aug 22 2006, 11:41 AM) [snapback]215796[/snapback]

Since it's already been established by the others that he is a Death Eater, I'd like to give my 2 cents on why he is one.

QUOTE(HP number one Fan @ Aug 18 2006, 10:52 PM) [snapback]214215[/snapback]

But why wormtail? He is a Gryffindor! He did seem useful at the time to give Voldemort inforamtion about the Potters but I would have thought that Voldemort would have killed him after that instead of making him a death eater. blink.gif


My answer is, why not? It shows us that "evilness" is not restricted to the Slytherins, and consequently, not all Slytherins are evil. Peter is a Gryffindor, yes, but that doesn't mean he has to be the epitome of goodness and bravery. I would even hazard a guess that there are Hufflepuff and Ravenclaw DEs as well.

Voldemort doesn't kill Peter because he is useful to him, it's as simple as that. Without Peter, he wouldn't have been able to get his body back, right? So I'd say that Voldemort doesn't pick his followers on whether or not they are Slytherin, but rather on how useful they could be to him. He is evil after all. He's a user. smile.gif


Yeah that has prove to me that he was a death eater and there are always ecceptions to wizards in houses like as many people say Severus is truly good then that means he is not like other Slytherins. But Voldemort didnt know that he would meet his down fall when trying to kill Harry. Supposing (as someone else said ) Peter wasn't a Death Eater and had still told Voldemort where the Potters were surly Voldemort being the ruthless cold blooded murderer that he is would have killed Peter. Maybe im wrong... laugh.gif
Hiraya
QUOTE(HP number one Fan @ Aug 23 2006, 04:07 AM) [snapback]216052[/snapback]

Yeah that has prove to me that he was a death eater and there are always ecceptions to wizards in houses like as many people say Severus is truly good then that means he is not like other Slytherins.


Not like other Slytherins in the sense that he's not "evil?" Actually, I think that Snape is still Slytherin to the core. I don't associate the word "evil" with the Slytherins. I tend to think of them as more of opportunistic. Snape values self-preservation, and he certainly has ambition and the "desire to prove himself" so I think he embodies everything a Slytherin should be, whether he is good or evil. smile.gif

QUOTE(HP number one Fan @ Aug 23 2006, 04:07 AM) [snapback]216052[/snapback]

But Voldemort didnt know that he would meet his down fall when trying to kill Harry. Supposing (as someone else said ) Peter wasn't a Death Eater and had still told Voldemort where the Potters were surly Voldemort being the ruthless cold blooded murderer that he is would have killed Peter. Maybe im wrong... laugh.gif


Oh that's an interesting point. Hmm... Maybe if someone other than Peter had managed to resurrect Voldemort, then Voldemort would have killed him. But since Peter proved to be useful by helping Voldemort get his body back, then he's keeping him alive just in case he needs him again.

blink.gif Did that make sense? Haha biggrin.gif
x-o-x-guess who-x-o-x
well, i dont wanna spoil the book[and the movie] for you if you haven't seen GoF or read the book. because you'll find out all about it in there. and yes he sure is a deatheater!
Black..Sirius..Padfoot..Snuffles
I think it is quite obvious that wormtail is and was a death eater, because doesn't Sirius say something about Wormatil giving his master (meaning Voldemort) the imformation about the Potters. mellow.gif I'm sure he does.

And one other thing, using the films for evidence isn't the best source, 'cause they sometimes add things in the movies that aren't in the books. Just saying! smile.gif
deutsch gryffindor
voldemort is just using him, but he is a death eater, he has the dark mark
Spadice
i dont think that voldemort believes that wormtail is powerful or smart or influencial enough to be a death eater. voldemort had friends and followers that were not death eaters, and i think that wormtail is struggleing to become one, but at the moment he remains on the outer circle. voldmort only puts up with him because he needs him, and as soon as he finds out that petigrew owes harry a life debt, voldemort will murder him.
Harry Potter Fan
Yes. Peter Pettigrew is a death eater. He has the dark mark. Why else would he betray Lily and James Potter to Lord Voldemort? A good guy would never do this. Case Closed.
Loopy_Luna
Yeah have to confirm Wormtail is a deatheater.

In GOF Voldermort touched the dark mark on Pettigrews arm to summon the other deatheaters.

He may not be a very good deatheater but is a deatheater all the same.

Cant wait to find out what happens when Voldermort finds out that he owes Harry his life.
Ginny16
Yes Peter Pettigrew has to be a DE. I mean he has the Mark and everything so he must be.
Aquamatey
i think that of course wormtail is a DE, i mean he chose to betray James and Lily and join Voldemort, I think, so in my opinion, that makes him a Death Eater.. stupid wormtail... i hate him.
UnknownLocket
Of course Wormtail is a death eater. Why else would he have the Dark Mark on his arm, its not just a tattoo. And of course voldemort is using him. Isn't he using everybody? they are just his little sidekicks or dolls who he can make do what he wants so that he can become the most powerful wizard ever.
Kymar
There is good evidence that PP does bear the dark mark. Graveyard scene in GoF, Voldemort presses on PP's arm and minutes later the other Death Eaters start arriving. DE's are called by their own dark mark burning after Voldemort presses on PP's (which is what gave Hermione the idea of the "Communication galleons" in OOTP), and as the dark mark is given ONLY to DE's, we can assume that PP is a DE.

There is no hard and fast rule that says the DE's have to come from Slytherin, it's just that the same personality traits that make a person suitable for Slytherin also make them suited to a career as a DE.
62442al_Man
Voldemort has an Order, not just a group of followers. His Order is huge, probably greater than the Order of the Phoenix. The Dark Order conists of the foulest of creatures, men, etc. Some creatures include some giants, some werewolves, the dementors, and many others. He also has different types of followers. There are, of course, the Death Eaters, there are just the people who support him but don't make a public display about it (or do make a public display about it, foolishly, and get carted away by the Ministry), and the servants.

I believe that Peter was a servant. hence the title of that chapter 'Lord Voldemort's Most Faithful Servant' or whatever, in Prisoner of Azkaban. He is just a slave to Voldemort. Peter has no real skill, cept for his lucky and rat-like qualities. I don't see him as a true Death Eater, but then again Voldemort may be quite lenient with who he awards the Dark mark to...such as a young kid like Draco. But we all have our own speculations on that wink.gif.
Nawrehsuan
I am definately sure he is a Death Eater because he is too scared to disobey Voldemort. He fears too much for his own life and is scared of being killed so he won't do it.
Kolby Potter
Hmm this is an intersestign question!

I was actually stuck for a while and was wondering about teh question. I was wondering if you meant a true death eater. Well either way i woujld say yes. I think this because he did have a choice. Although he was frightened or even tempted to be one he still made the final choice.

Like in the third book Sirius said he would of died other than betray James and lily. Peter had that choice but did not take it.
exclo
QUOTE(Spencer Potter @ Aug 10 2006, 06:57 PM) [snapback]211645[/snapback]

happy.gif happy.gif Have you watched the 4th movie yet? If not, yes he is. Did you see the dark mark on his wrist, well thats a sign of a Death Eater. Theres your answer. happy.gif


That was in the movie. they change things for the movie.
SnakeCharmer74
For those who are questioning as to why Voldemort would accept Peter for being a Gryffindor here is my thought; Voldemort knows no lines except pureblood and muggles. That's it. If a Hufflepuff were to want to 'cleanse the wizarding world of muggles' do you really think that he's going to say 'No, you weren't Slytherin'?

I think people are putting too much stock in the house assignments; it is only for boarding purposes. Because there is a magical hat that picks and chooses, we tend to think that only cunning and ambitious people get into Slytherin; only bright and witty people get into Ravenclaw; only brave get into Gryffindor; and only loyal get into Hufflepuff. Obviously that's not the case because everyone is a combination of two or more houses.
Sirius B
Wormtail isn't a death eater he is just a muppet, puppet we saw in HBP how Snape used him a servant, how wormtail had to listen at the door to try and find out what was going on that's not a job that you would give to one of your elite band of minions sad.gif
SnakeCharmer74
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Wormtail isn't a death eater he is just a muppet


That is so true. He is only alive because of his usefulness. Even Voldemort acknowledged that Peter wouldn't have returned if he wasn't so scared of Remus and Sirius.

Does anything think that if Voldemort was aware of Peter's life debt to Harry, if he would just kill him (Peter)so its not an issue anymore, or if he will blow it off?
FleurDelacour
Of course!!!!! magic.gif
i am the ultimate prankster
i completely agree with the fact that wormtail is nothing more than a puppet to be used at voldermort's every whim. i think that once wormtail becomes useless to voldermort he's as good as dead and he deserves it!!! mad.gif
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taintedlove-xx
Yes , Peter is a death eater , agreeing with all the reasons already made . In book 4 Voldie touches his wand to Peters dark mark to call the other death eaters .
darknessdolly
I'm not sure but I really don't think so.

He is more like a Death Eater groupie. He is the Kevin Federline of Voldemort's back-up dancers.

Basically he is there because he is afraid to NOT be there.

The others actually believed all of that Slytherin's Heir, Pure Blood junk! I don't think that Wormtail ever did.

He was just a puppet to be pushed around, a total wanna-be!
stag
I voted yes. However...
Pettigrew (that rat, grrrr) is only sticking to Voldemort because he likes to be with the powerful. He is not loyal to the death eaters, or anyone else for that matter! He merely sticks to whoever is the strongest! As soon as Voldemort is defeated by Harry, Wormtail will pretend to have been forced to do Voldemort's bidding. Then he'll plead to be forgiven and try to attache himself to Harry. However, thank god, Harry knows better than that (Ha!!!).
kelli
Wormtail of course has the dark mark, in the movie ( in kow its not the book, but why put it in there if he doesn't have it?) Voldemort touched the dark mark on his arm to summon the other death eaters to the graveyard. Yet, Wormtail only went back to Voldemort because he was afraid of his friends coming after him. He loves to be protected by someone powerful. Just as he used to associate with the cool kids back in school, he is associating with the most powerful wizard. dry.gif
Noepie
I think he is. He has the Mark on his arm, and Voldemort gives him orders. He wouldn't do that if he wasn't entirely sure of Wormtail. But, I don't think Wormtail is really happy with being a Death Eater; he joined Voldemort out of fear, not out of loyalty.
Hilly
Yes, I think that little Pettigrew is indeed a Death Eater. Although, like stag said, he isn't on anyones side. Just whoever has more power at the time. When it was the Order, he was on the Order's side. When the Death Eaters rose to power, he became a Death Eater. Then again I think Voldemort would be much smarter than to let that little rat be his follower. Perhaps he's just leading Pettigrew on.
Dan4d17
Voldemort doesnt want a weak deatheather but he doesnt mind using the weak if it benifits his goals... i dont think Voldemort would allow Peter to become a death eater... at least not a true one he is more just the useful servant
jiggery-pokery
Yes he is a death eater

Peter gave innocent lives to Voldemort for his own benefit. Anyone who is as selfish as that is a death eater.
Horavlo
I have never seen Peter Pettigrew with a death eather's mask but I think he is,because he has served to Voldemort a lot of time and make lots of horrible things only to be protected.

He is not brave, all their life hidden under the form of a rat has been. sleep.gif
Salazaar
I really believe that Wormtail is extremely easy to influence and Voldemort is exploiting him. In the end he will realize that helping Harry and fighting Voldemort will be the only way to escape the memory of betraying Lily and James.
LunyLovegood
Of course he is!!

dont you remember at the end of BOOK 4 when you-know-who asked to see wormtails arm. Once wormtail flung out his arm he laughed and demanded to see the other one.. which he touched ... his dark mark ... thats how you-know-who called all the other death eaters to that grave yard.
crystaltaylor2
i would say yeah he is... but then he really isnt he is to cowardly... he is just voldemorts stead if you will. you is serving the higher power... he always just wanted to fit in and be liked... and voldemort is very persasive... so ima wait it out ans see what jk sayys
SillyWilly0915
OKay..well u may think i have NO idea wat im talking about. But JK has never said anyhting about wormtail being a death eater! Yeah i know in the 4th movie he has the mark! But if yall are as big as fans as i am, yall all know that the movies leave and put it so much stuff! I walk out of the movie theaters screaming almost! Cursing the fact that they screwed up the book!

So im in the middle! I think he is, but there's never been any truth except the lieing movies! huh.gif
DoubleD
I think that Wormtail is no Death Eater. Now he may be afraid of Voldie, but when he sees that harry is able to destroy the Horcruxes, he may help him. Maybe he tells Harry where or what one of the last Horcruxes is or how to destroy it. Wormtail would, in my opinion, not try to destroy a Horcrux himself, because he is not skiled enough. Yet he may save Harry's life by throwing himself in a curse fired by Voldie on Harry...
He will help harry in any way.
Cobra
deffinetly, he helps "he who shall not be named" (felt like saying that) so much and even if he is different then the rest of the death eaters i still count him as one
wait_siriusly411
so long as hes working for and helping voldemort.....hes a death eater....especially since hes one of those people who dont have friends, but instead have leaders who have lots of power....he did it with the marauders and now hes doing it with voldemort...
HarryEyes
of course he is a death eater otherwise how would he had summond his followers
he asks him for the other arm and pressed the dark mark
firefly
Well, all I can say about this is that if he wasn't a DeathEater, then why does he have the darkmark on his arm. All DeathEaters have the darkmark. Even thought he is afraid of LV, I think that 90% of the DeathEaters are afraid of LV. Even thought JK never actually says "Wormtail is a DE", I think it's implied with the darkmark on his arm.
sockr24
well yea in the book voldemort uses wormtails dark mark to call the death eaters. and did we ever hear that wormtail was in griffindore? someone was asking why voldemort would want a griffindore as a follower. we never hear what house he was in though, did we? i would have thought of him being in hufflepuff because he is useless at everything else. he's not brave, intelligent, or cunning is he? but he's also not loyal to anyone unless you call him being terrified at voldemort "loyal". but yes i am pretty sure that he is a death eater.
time turner
I think that Wormtail is a death eater, but not a very good one. Wormtail is only a death eater out of fear and nothing more. I have relised that Wormtail has never gone with death eaters on missions, so I think that Voldemort thinks that, as soon as Wormtail is away from Voldemort he will stay away.
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