athenas_gift
Sep 17 2004, 06:35 AM
Lupin will probably die....I mean Worntail, silver hand....A + B = C ( even though I am absolutley against it).
Dumbledore is a also a given...he can't be around forever to protect Harry.
If any Weasley is going to die...my vote is for Percy (sorry I know that is kinda evil)
Bellatrix Lestrange at the hand of Neville would be a nice addition. And I wouldn't mind Lucius being killed by Draco ( sounds like a bad soap)
Mad Eye Moody
Umbridge!!!!!!
Snape...but it's probably gonna come out that he was James' first cousin or something...
doomed_renascence
Sep 17 2004, 07:25 AM
Ron (as much as I'm against it, there's just too much info to prove it)
Pettigrew (probably by helping out Harry in some sticky situation or at the hands of Voldemort)
Dumbledore (just this gut feeling, although I'm against it)
Bellatrix (she deserves it)
Lucius (he deserves it too)
actually...all of the current death eaters.
LuciusMalfoy
Sep 17 2004, 05:06 PM
I don't think any of the trio is going to die.
Oh and, athenas_gift, I think that Lucius will die at the hand of Draco too. I love that idea no matter how soap operaish it is. lol.
I really don't want any of the Weasley's to die, but I guess Percy would be the only one that I wouldn't get angry over, just sad.
But definitely Dumbledore and Lupin and Wormtail, and all the Death Eaters
RG's Babe
Sep 18 2004, 04:30 PM
| QUOTE (hermioneluvsron @ Sep 16 2004, 09:38 PM) |
J.K. Rowling said there will be lots of deaths in the next books. |
I think that Ron and Dumbledore will die.
Maybe if i'm lucky Ron won't die.
I REALLY don't want him to.
realbullet
Sep 18 2004, 08:43 PM
Mad Eye Moody will be the next to go -- as a character, he has run his course. I voted for DD in this thread, because I believe he will be killed in a later book. Thisis a war, after all. Also dying:
An older Weasley (Bill or Charley).
Kingsley (I like him too -- I would like to see his character developed more)
Tonks
and perhaps a student (Luna?) -- somewhere it needs to sink in that this is not fun & games.
taks
Sep 19 2004, 07:05 PM
hmmm
My List
Death Eaters (loads of them)
Order Members (by this I mean the ones we don't really know)
Lupin (sad, I dont want to think about it)
Ron (*cries*)
Harry (Unfornutly, yes I think it will happen)
Tonks (don't ask why i think this, even I'm not sure)
Dumbledore (*breaks out in tears again)
McGonagall (again, dont ask)
Wormtail (oo, too bad)
Another Weasley (*bursts into sobs*)
Voldemort
Bellatrix
Kreacher
and more,
I don't expect all of these to happen but I that at least one of these will happen.
Flygal101
Sep 19 2004, 08:15 PM
this is my list:
lupin
wormtail.....
and even Arthur Weasley....
so far 2 of the marenders (sry if i spell it wrong ....in a rush here!)
died (though i think sirius might still be alive .....) so maybe the next 2 will died.........this is what i think
lupin will be the first to die maybe he'll try to save harry or something....then i think it would be arthur because in oopt when he was attacked that may foreshadow something.....maybe it was an attempt to kill him....after all he's in the ootp
then i think wormtail will die because he would save harry since harry let me live......
and hopefully.........VOLDY will die.....
doomed_renascence
Sep 19 2004, 09:27 PM
Well, since this is some sorta of super hero series, Voldemort is bound to die anyway right?
I don't think Lupin is going to die. Yes, he can be the next father figure that Harry looks up to (he does already sort of, but more this time), and that Voldemort has a thing of killing off almost anyone that tries to protect Harry and almost anyone who he loves. BUT not many people know about him. They know that he exists, but not where people actually acknowlegde his presense. This makes it seem like he wouldn't stick out for Voldemort to see him, and have a chance to kill him. Just a guess...I'm a proud SPELL member so I doubt Lupin will die for these reasons, lol.
LuciusMalfoy
Sep 20 2004, 12:45 AM
| QUOTE |
Ron (*cries*) Harry (Unfornutly, yes I think it will happen)
|
I don't think that JKR would kill off 2 people in the trio. I think that if anyone from the trio dies it's going to be Harry. But I'm not too sure about anyone of the trio dying. It would just be wrong.
taks
Sep 20 2004, 12:50 AM
| QUOTE |
| I don't expect all of these to happen but I that at least one of these will happen |
Ummm, yeah thats why I put that ^. I think that either Harry or Ron will die, or both, I better stop before I break out in tears.
LuciusMalfoy
Sep 20 2004, 01:11 AM
Oh, okay, no prob, my mistake then.
Honestly if Ron died I'm not sure how muc of a fan I would be of JKR anymore. Since Ron is my favorite character and I couldn't imagine him not being there ever. I'm not sure if I'd ever read the books again.
Louise
Sep 20 2004, 08:35 AM
Yeah, but that's where JKR is clever really, isn't it? She can kill off whomever she liked in the final book and it won't matter because we'll have bought all the books by then! I do think that would be something of a slap in the face to all her dedicated fans out there though, but I'm sure she won't kill off anyone just for the sake of it. As long as whoever it is dies heroically (and there will be more deaths, unfortunately...'cos this is a war...) then I guess I'll be okay with it....
(Just as long as it's not Lupin...

)
LuciusMalfoy
Sep 20 2004, 01:44 PM
lol. Oh, I know there are going to more deaths and I'm prepareing myself for heartbreak already. Just please not Lupin or Ron.
hermioneluvsron
Sep 24 2004, 11:42 PM
I hate deaths why does everything involve ppl dying why, why?
I don't want any1 to die?
But maybe Ron, will die...
LuciusMalfoy
Sep 26 2004, 07:45 PM
Come, on HermioneluvsRon, in a war people have to die, that's what war is...death.
We're all just gonna have to deal with it.
BladerChick13
Sep 26 2004, 09:56 PM
i hope its hermione cuz shes starting 2 annoy me.....wait shes always annoyed me o well *Prays hermione will be killed off* i got so mad when she didnt die in book 5 so i really hope is herms
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kreacher_the_house_elf
Sep 27 2004, 10:02 AM
Ok. Just so you know. Hermione is not my favourite character. But to view someone with a deathwish is sort of morbid.
Please remember that for some people Hermione is their favourite character. (For example - Steve Kloves. The person who writes the movie scripts)
I can't see any of the main three dying.
Perhaps Hagrid. He would be quite old for a giant?
LuciusMalfoy
Sep 27 2004, 04:54 PM
I don't know, I never thought about Hagrid dying. He's so sweet that I couldn't imagine him dying at all. I'd be really sad, but if that was who JKR wanted to kill off then oh well.
I don't think or want Hermione to die, even though she isn't my fav. I don't think any of the trio will die.
Mrs Brisbee
Sep 27 2004, 07:49 PM
Hmm. Well, I think all the deaths in the previous books helped move the plot forward, so it is likely that that will be the case in the next two.
Unfortunately I think this means the end of Dumbledore. If Rowling wants to make the situation in the wizarding world even worse than it is now, the best way to do it would be remove the only guy Voldemort was ever afraid of.
The Aurors' job has just become even more dangerous, so either Tonks or Shacklebolt dying would be my bet (more likely Tonks, which is too bad because I like her).
I can't see any of the trio dying in the end. I can't see the point to such a depressing ending for the books, really.
Dang it, even thinking about it is depressing me.
I know there will be deaths, but there will be reasons for them. I'll just have to trust it will be worth the read ( like OotP).
Hpfan4life
Sep 27 2004, 10:52 PM

I really hate to say it but Ithink Harry and Voldy will both die and in a way cross each other out.Dumbledore is sure to go and Lucius too.
LuciusMalfoy
Sep 28 2004, 02:28 AM
Yeah, I definitely think that DD is gonna die, and even though I know it's coming I'll still cry pretty bad. I love DD.
I could see the Harry and Voldy dying thing. I don't know why but I've always kinda had a feeling that Harry was gonna die, but at the moment I'm in denile and don't think that he will. lol.
But, yeah, Lucius and the other Death Eaters are so gonna die.
Louise
Sep 28 2004, 08:33 AM
I'm pretty sure that the Death Eaters are gonna get it too....particularly Bella....nasty, evil little...**insert appropriate colourful adjective here**..
I'm thinking that Hagrid's odds are pretty low for survival too...
I don't think Tonks would die....at least I really hope not because I love her to bits...it would be such a pity to lose her sense of humour....
The most likely candidates from the Order are probably gonna be Mad-Eye, DD (I think this is
really likely), Mundungus and possibly, right at the end, Snape. (Notice how I haven't mentioned a particular person...

...wonder how he could have slipped my mind?..

)
Ron's odds are a little lower than Hagrid's, I think.....he'll probably get it trying to save Hermione or something....
As for Harry.....50/50 at best, I reckon.....although whether or not the phoenix connections are a foreshadowing of his Robert Patrick, T-1000-like resurrection is a matter for debate....
kreacher_the_house_elf
Sep 30 2004, 11:26 AM
I think Harry would live because him dying would be a great disappointment. But, then again it is the only way to make sure there can't be a sequel.
I sort of contradicted myself eh?
I agree that it is 50-50.
All the Death-Eaters have to die. Otherwise the legacy of Voldemort lives on.
Voldemort. I am certain.
Hermione/Ron - they come under the same chances. I believe that if one of the trio goes then they all will. Too many loose strings if only one-two of them live.
The teachers -they have the same odds. Perhaps McGonnagall, Trelawney? and Dumbledore.
Snape won't die because he is too devious and evil.
Mr. and Mrs Weasley. I stumbled across something about them dying but I don't really believe it.
Kingsley and Tonks? Tonks won't die because she is too cool.
Kingsley is probably too clever.
Mad-Eye Moody? He is probably a chance -he's old and paraniod. If he stayed he is probably a hinderance.
I think there will be a lot of deaths in early book seven.
If they are too late specualtion on their deaths could spark a sequel and that is NOT where she wants to go. But some people to put it plainly have to die.
Any Thoughts?
BellatrixBlack
Oct 2 2004, 11:04 PM
Humm....
Dumbledore - cause if makes reference to him being old and tierd, he
really could just be tierd, but I say he's gonna go
Lupin - Just cause all the other Maruraders died.
Pettigrew - Read above sentence
Members from the Order - Just cause they said a lot of members died
in the first war, and this one is supposed to
be the big one.
A Weasley - Just cause JK might be evil enough to do something like
that.
One of the trio - Read above sentence.
Death Eaters - Cause if members from the Order have to die, than so
should some Death Eaters.
Voldemort - Just cause Harry has to kill him.
Yeah a little general I know, but ehh, I really dont know, all I know is that some ppl have to die, thier in a war.
LupariusMurilegus
Oct 3 2004, 08:47 PM
I agree that Dumbledore will die as well. Just 'cause the wise old wizard always dies just when the hero thinks he needs him most, but in reality the hero is ready and his last test must be done without the WOW. You know, like with Obi-Wan Kenobi?
| QUOTE |
| Lupin will probably die....I mean Worntail, silver hand....A + B = C |
Yes, I'll say it again. Silver doesn't necessarily kill werewolves and I don't think it even affects them in JK's world because Lupin uses silver stuff throughout the whole series. But, hey, I could easily be very wrong. But let's not speak of that. XD
Peter just HAS to die. But I think Harry'll live. Frankly JK wouldn't even have to finish the series so I don't think spin-offs would be a problem. Besides it would be fun for other writers. Like there are spin-offs for Peter Pan and LOTS for star wars which was a book first, at least ANH was. Anyway...
i dont think any of the trio will die, dont ask me why though because i wont have an answer. i think that an adult will die.
vania
Oct 4 2004, 01:17 PM
I think Hagrid could day in the next movie

(((
It´s possible Hermione die too, but no probable
Lupin can die as well
And I choose Lucius and who know who to die
And a friend not very close of harry can die
kreacher_the_house_elf
Oct 5 2004, 06:24 AM
I think that everyone is up in contention to die this book. Except Harry, Hermione, Ron and Voldemort.
And Lupin because I want to see more David Thewlis in the movies.
LuciusMalfoy
Oct 5 2004, 01:28 PM
Well, it's official! JKR said she was definitely going to kill of more characters.
Oh, I'm gonna be crying so much in the next two books. I just hope it's not Ron.
Louise
Oct 5 2004, 02:45 PM
Or Lupin!!!

If she kills him off, no matter how noble the death, I think I'll completely lose my faith in justice for people who live good, decent and honest lives in this world.....then my whole moral system will be so royally screwed that I'll go completely nuts, rob a bank, then make my escape to Acapulco in a stolen, sun-white Lamborghini Diablo.....
x_Loony_Lovegood_x
Oct 5 2004, 10:53 PM
i think that harry, mr. weasley, ron, fred, george and percy are going 2 die, because mrs. weasley's boggart might be foreshadowing deaths in the next books, but i dont know......
Lynn
Oct 6 2004, 08:03 AM
I don'tt think she's goping to kill all the weasleys. I think she's going to kill ron. First, Ron and hermione are going steady, the he dies. and harry and hermione are alone...
i think he sacrifices himslef for Harry and hermione, I'm sure he'll die as a hero.
It would be awful, but so much drama is beauiful at the same time.
kreacher_the_house_elf
Oct 6 2004, 11:48 AM
I think the main characters (or well established ones) won't die. Yet. Perhaps Wormtail and Kreacher? They deserve to die. Don't they. The little snotrags. -Thats my new favourite term for them.
LuciusMalfoy
Oct 6 2004, 01:28 PM
I really doubt that any of the trio is going to die. (Maybe Harry, but then again, I don't know) But Ron isn't gonna die, he just can't, it would be wrong.
Long Live Lupin and Ron!
kreacher_the_house_elf
Oct 7 2004, 05:01 AM
I think that it would be really weird if one of the trio to die. It is one or all of them.
For example, If Harry and Voldemort kill each other at the same time. (Pretty likely I think.) Perhaps Ron and Hermione will get murdered by death eaters.
Just a thought....
Malfoyka
Oct 13 2004, 12:31 PM
Dumbledore jest jedynym czarodziejem silniejszym od Voldemorta więc nie może od tak sobie zginąć, skoro Voldemort tego nie może!! Ludzie myślcie logicznie!
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Kreacher
Oct 15 2004, 10:30 PM
I'm thinking along the same lines as most of you about a lot of Death Eaters and Order members dying. I also think that Dumbledore will die for the same reasons that BellatrixBlack said: It's always making references to how old and tired he looks. I think both Harry and Voldemort are going to die in the final battle (I know, I know, it's harsh, but I think it just has to happen). I'm thinking that maybe a Weasley will die (probably Bill, Percy, or Charlie), and probably Wormtail and Lupin too (I can't stand the thought of Lupin dying, but that way all of the Marauders would be dead). I think that it would be awsome if Harry and Neville sort of teamed up together to get Bellatrix.
deranged
Oct 16 2004, 12:52 AM
Actually, I don't seriously think any of the trio would be killed, neither in HBP or Book 7. And if Harry dies, imagine what would happen. After all, he's Voldermort's equal, and only he can kill Voldermort. So Harry would not die. (And hasn't JKR said anything about him living till Book 7?)
My list of who might die:
Lupin
Dumbledore
Dudley
A Weasley (I hope its Percy)
and many more. Its a war anyway.
kreacher_the_house_elf
Oct 16 2004, 11:08 AM
No! Lupin can't die. I hope Wormtail dies. He is such a rotten dirty little rat. I think Harry will live. Voldemort can't obviously live unless there is an 8th book. Which is
highly unlikely 
But that's ok. I still have two books of pure enjoyment.
I have to agree with the Moderator Malfoyka. This is english speaking.
If Lupin dies in the next book. I will have to rely on fanfiction..
theburninator118
Oct 16 2004, 07:58 PM
Think about this pragmatically. Losing Lupin would mean Harry loses the last link to his father. So less ways to find out stuff that went on in the past.
--Neither Ron, Hermione, or Harry are going to die. JK Rowling's smart enuf to know that killing off any of them would turn away fans.
--Hagrid's also impossible b/c he hasn't been huge (not in the literal sense).
--Dumbledore can't die in the sixth book. Maybe in seventh. W/out him, the wizarding world=havoc.
--Wormtail won't die yet b/c of the debt he has to repay to Harry. Bellatrix will die, but in the seventh by Neville.
------So who will? My bet is one of the older Weasleys. Probably not Percy; he's too problematic and interesting. McGonagall can't die; she's one of my faves. It's probably an adult and not a student.
Whew.
LuciusMalfoy
Oct 17 2004, 12:59 AM
Well, we could all that stuff out either before Lupin died or from Snape or DD. So, it doesn't really rule out Lupin's death.
brkn promises x
Oct 17 2004, 05:34 PM
i read this theory that all the marauders will die in the end. lupin will die in book six, and wormtail in book seven. i kind off believe that theory. but dont get me wrong, i like lupin a lot, it just i believe that he might die next, or soon.
theburninator118
Oct 17 2004, 06:26 PM
Meh. All this speculating makes us get too anxious.
The marauders could die eventually. It makes sense. Luna won't die. She hasn't made that much of a connection w/ the characters yet, so her death may not be too monumental. I think Umbridge will turn up like Lockhart - in a hospital (we may wish she was dead).
You know, one of us has to be right. We've named all of the characters in the books.
By the way, I'm new.
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ic0n67
Oct 21 2004, 09:16 PM
Hello all. Here is how I see life and death the rest of the way. People not listed are still undecided in my mind. If any of these don't happen this way they are here I would be shocked.
Dumbledore (lives): Honestly there is no reason for him to die. He is already an elderly character, so letting him die of old age is a better thing to do. Also think this: He is 'all powerful' in a way. Having him live til he dies of old age lets him live with his failures (which will come) and make him more human.
McGonagall (lives): I would not be surprised if the story goes full circle and McGonagall and Dumbledore are standing on Privot Drive at the very end.
Hagrid (dies): Unfortunatly, he does dumb stuff. His affinity for danger will get him killed.
Mad-Eye (dies): Only fitting for him to fall in battle towards the very end.
Trelawney (dies): In an effort not to spoil see the end of the Order.
Fleur (lives): She comes back and plays a major role in the rest of the saga. Informant role more than likly.
Fred / George (One lives one dies): Splitting up twins is a tragic thing, but it will be nessessary for the completeness of the story.
Dobby (dies): He will die at the hand of his former master after he interferes with Harry's affairs one too many times.
Aunt Petunia (dies): In an effort not to spoil see the end of the Order.
Cornelius Fudge (lives): He is nothing more than a figure head, no need for him to die. Actaully it would be more poetic for a politition to live and not get involved.
Ron / Hermione (lives): They, of course, will be together and live long lives (even though they will struggle to keep the 'dark side' from reigning). They are parallel to Arthur and Molly.
Arthur / Molly (lives): As Ron and Hermione live they should too.
Draco (lives): He is a bad charcter only in his actions. I can forsee him not being as evil as his father, and eventually helping Harry because he knows in his heart what the right thing is to do.
Lucious (dies): He will be the last death before Voldemort goes down. He is like the boss before the final boss in an RPG.
Harry / Voldemort (dies): They must BOTH die to be poetic. They are in fact the same person as far as thier character. They are connected in more ways than one. For one to die, they other must also. Or of course they both live.
Wormtail (lives): He is the rat, he has cheated death before he will cheat it again. He is like the Thenardier (see Les Miserables) for the Harry Potter Series.
And, I am pretty sure that someone will 'return' and will be bad and will eventually be 're-killed' by Harry. I'd expain more, but i don't like spoiling.
Other Predictions:
One of the big four (Harry, Ron, Hermione, Neville) will turn evil, per the parallel of the Mauraders. Seeing as I think Ron and Hermione will end up together I will have to guess on Neville seeing as i'm out of options there.
Bandoth
Oct 22 2004, 04:57 PM
Here's what I think. Lupin will be killed by Wormtail when he gets close to Harry, a bunch of order members will die, (ones we know and don't know) Ron, (that chess thing in SS was symbolism I believe. Sirius being the black knight that was killed by the white queen.(Bellatrix)) another Weasley before Ron, and just maybe Dumbledore. Voldy hates him too much to let him live for 2 more books.
kreacher_the_house_elf
Oct 23 2004, 01:12 AM
Ok. ic0n67 we get the point about your opinion on Hermione and Ron! Please move it over to the ships threads... Apart from that you made a few good points. Typically because of my adoration for the characters I am reluctant to agree. But it will most likely happen..
eva13
Oct 25 2004, 02:10 AM
I think ron will die and I am new
Naz
Oct 25 2004, 03:32 AM
^^hello up there!! hope you like veritaserum. well i dont think ron will die. but i think lucius will and maybe draco will too.
LuciusMalfoy
Oct 25 2004, 03:56 AM
I really don't think Ron will die. Honestly I don't. And if he did I swear I would be throwing that book on the floor, and that's saying something because I treat those books like glass or a baby; with great care. I love them, but if Ron died, I wouldn't be able to control myself, I'd throw the book as far from me as I could, so I really hope Ron doesn't die. lol.
But yeah I think most of the DE will die.
hpfreak11
Oct 27 2004, 09:07 PM
My list
Lupin, Silver hand
Charley, Dragon
wormtail, Voldy Duh.
Nevill, To close to harry
many muggles
order members
FUDGE
VOLDEMORT
I do not think that dumbledor will die by a curse He is way to powerful.