CAPS LOCK
Feb 21 2007, 04:17 AM
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This is all true, I just really really wished that Harry did not die!!!!
I know he probably will have to die in the end though. Otherwise Jo will just be asked to keep on writing more and more books about what happens after book 7, and what goings on in his life, etc.
I just wish he wouldn't die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yea.. i wish that harry woudn't die, but it looks like that it is a must for the end of the series. i just dont see any other way
Chianna333
Feb 21 2007, 04:23 AM
VOLDEMORT!!!!
If you have ever paid attention to the literary world you will know that good always triumphs over evil!! It is the one constant in (fantasy ecspecially) fiction! Harry will live on in some way and Voldemort most be vanquished! Just read books like Lord of the Rings (Frodo/the fellowship vs. Sauron or Sauromon) or C.S. Lewis's the "Chronicles of Narnia" (the children/ Aslan vs. the white witch)!!
Ginevra_hena
Feb 21 2007, 08:36 AM
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VOLDEMORT!!!!!
Voldemort dying is not that sure - I mean, he should but there are always the sort of things where "good wins over the evil" and the Dark Lord turns back into Tom Riddle and actually comes to pay respect to Dumbledore at the Hogwarts Grounds with Ron and Hermione....er, lol?
IhateSeverusSnape
Feb 21 2007, 05:47 PM
I don't know why, but I have a nasty suspicious feeling that Hagrid is going to be killed. . . but I think maybe by accident??? What does everyone else think about that?? And as for the who will die, Harry or Voldemort debate, I am 89 percent certain that it will be Voldemort. Tonks is also an open target, I think. It's sad, I know, but probably true.
Potter_Addict_713
Feb 21 2007, 10:38 PM
yeah, hagrid is a possibility... But the thing is he would have to be hit with the Avada Kadavra curse, right? Because we have seen him servive like 10 stunning charms, so it will take a lot for him to get so hurt he can die.
Ginevra_hena
Feb 22 2007, 09:33 AM
You know something, I think Jo is really affectionate for Hagrid's character, so, there might also be a possibility that Hagrid's spared. There are loads to be killed, like, Molly Weasley?
theoptigid
Feb 22 2007, 05:02 PM
Hello all! This is my first post on the forums, although I've been lurking and reading for quite a while now!
My pics for character deaths in DH are as follows. Again, this is my speculation only! :
1) Lord Voldemort. He isn't killed by Harry, however. He's killed by Draco.
2) Harry. Although none of us want's to see our protagonist die in the final book of this series, I feel it would be fitting to Jo's style of writing and leaving all who read shocked. He will be killed by Voldemort.
3) Bellatrix. Neville will have his revenge. His pure hatred of her will fuel him so much that he'll perform two (count 'em 1-2) Unforgivable Curses on Bella. The
Crucio to have her feel the pain she caused his parents and the
Avada Kedavra to finish her off. Go Neville! Get down with your bad self!
4) Snape. He dies while fighting Death Eaters alongside other Order members, probably killed by Lucius or LV himself, if Snape hasn't already finished off Lucius, that is.
5) Lucius. He just has to die. He's killed by an Order member, either Snape or Moody.
6) Arthur Weasley. This has to do with odds. There are more Weasleys in the Order than any other family, so it stands to reason they are not all going to make it. Since Lucius has already shown a palpable dislike for Arthur, it stands to reason he'll be the one to corner Arthur, disarm him, and kill him.
7) Fenrir Grayback. There is
no way Lupin or Bill will let him live.
Those are my picks for the main character/supporting character deaths for HPDH. I know there will be others, probably some DA members as well, but that covers the basics.
My reasons for the statement that Draco kills LV are that I have never once believed Draco is pure evil. The
sectumsempra scene in HBP reinforced that, as did the scene on the Astronomy Tower. When (hypothetically) LV kills Harry in DH, Draco turns his wand on Voldy and lets him have it.
Comments? How did I do?
Mr. Mojo Risin'
Feb 22 2007, 10:17 PM
This might upset a few H/G shippers, but I can certainly see Ginny dying in DH. My two reasons would be A) her close relationship with Harry and,

Her family. Voldy seems to be good at picking off those close to Harry, and I believe he is trying to prevent Harry's "love power" from getting any stronger. Also, aren't the Weasley's a big lot of Blood Traitors? And for the H/Hr shippers out there, that's only one step closer to Harry and Hermione being together.
Just my two dollars,
José aka Mr. Mojo Risin'
Potter_Addict_713
Feb 22 2007, 10:45 PM
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7) Fenrir Grayback. There is no way Lupin or Bill will let him live.
hmmm... I have never thought of that, but I completely agree...
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My reasons for the statement that Draco kills LV are that I have never once believed Draco is pure evil. The sectumsempra scene in HBP reinforced that, as did the scene on the Astronomy Tower. When (hypothetically) LV kills Harry in DH, Draco turns his wand on Voldy and lets him have it.
I like this theory, I still feel that it will take a lot for Draco and Harry to be on the same side, but it is possible when the "finial battle" happens. I would like to here more of your reasoning behind this prediction, theoptigid, it is very interesting to me.
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This might upset a few H/G shippers, but I can certainly see Ginny dying in DH. My two reasons would be A) her close relationship with Harry and,

Her family. Voldy seems to be good at picking off those close to Harry, and I believe he is trying to prevent Harry's "love power" from getting any stronger. Also, aren't the Weasley's a big lot of Blood Traitors? And for the H/Hr shippers out there, that's only one step closer to Harry and Hermione being together.
I agree with you Mr. Mojo Risin', I think if Harry dies, Ginny will die. It's kind of sad, but I believe it. I completely agree with the fact that Voldemort kills the people Harry are close too, "love power" I like it....lol!
Ginevra_hena
Feb 23 2007, 10:40 AM
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4) Snape. He dies while fighting Death Eaters alongside other Order members, probably killed by Lucius or LV himself, if Snape hasn't already finished off Lucius, that is.
I am not sure whether it's true or just I remember reading it somewhere just like that, but Jo has said that as a major surviving character Snape's loyalty will be finally settled in the last book, so he has to live, right?
theoptigid
Feb 23 2007, 05:23 PM
Fist off, thanks for reading and responding to my post, Potter_Addict_713 and ginevra_hena!
Now, responding to your desire to hear more on the "Draco kills LV" theory:
As I said in my previous post, I have never seen Draco Malfoy as completely evil. Yes, he's a bully and a downright git at times, but he has a good soul. He is a victim of circumstance: a pure-blood from a long line of Slytherins & the son of one of LV's lieutenants. His father is no doubt controlling, as well as verbally and emotionally abusive - I say that because we really have not seen Cissy at all until book 6. Draco, like all teenaged boys, outwardly shows no weakness to exploit, hence, he puts up a facade of cockiness - like his father. Draco no doubt wants to protect his beloved mother from LV and his father, and when Lucius is sent to Azkaban between books 5 and 6, Draco sees the light at the end of the tunnel. However, at this weakest point in the Malfoy household, LV approaches Draco and asks him to do the unthinkable: kill Dumbledore.
When the most powerful evil wizard, your dad's boss, asks you to do something, it would be unwise to refuse, especially with your mother's life in the balance as well. So accepting the task, knowing what he must do, he gives himself over to evil to save others. If we also examine the routes he took to accomplish the task, we see they are fairly transparent and foolish, buying Dumbledore and Harry time to figure it all out. Yet, he's still very conflicted within himself about what he must do. In Moaning Myrtle's bathroom, he cries and tells Myrtle that he can't do it. He hesitates and gives Dumbledore (if he were in better health) more than enough time to escape on the Astronomy Tower.
(Now for the speculation in DH)
In DH, I expect to see Draco's conflict within to be a prevalent side-story in the plot. He spills his heart out to Snape, still acting as a spy for LV (yes, I think Snape is good), and Snape takes Draco under his wing and shows him how to hoodwink LV into thinking Draco still fights for him when in reality he's made his choice to fight for good. This was foreshadowed in CoS when Harry had his conversation with Dumbledore after the Basilisk.
Harry never will fully trust Draco. However, Draco will prove himself a friend of Harry's in the end - more than likely finishing off the Dark Lord after Harry's death.
That's my expanded "Draco is good" theory. Whattaya Think?
Ginevra_hena
Feb 26 2007, 10:39 AM
Well, I didn't need a Draco is Good theory, but yeah it's pretty good and convincing. I am not really up for Draco getting killed now.
I don't know, but there are plenty of characters to be killed, it's not that the Order members will be spared. I mean, if they are powerful, so is Lord Voldemort and co.
boggart
Feb 26 2007, 12:11 PM
everybody is throwing arrows in the darkness...
anybody thought about the prophecy...
it says either harry has to die.. or voldemort has to die...
voldemort couldnt kill harry bcoz of his mothers love
but voldy got the anti-protection for her mothers one...
so how will harry survive...
we have only one answer...
who loves harry so much to give life... GINNY...
she is the one who can give harry the protection once harry mom gave him
voldemort does not have the power GINNY can give harry
if she dies voldemort may not be able to kill harry which will help harry to finish voldy
and harry will have the the desire to kill voldy...
so its likely for ginny to die
orome527
Feb 26 2007, 09:17 PM
QUOTE(boggart @ Feb 26 2007, 03:11 AM) [snapback]333563[/snapback]
everybody is throwing arrows in the darkness...
anybody thought about the prophecy...
it says either harry has to die.. or voldemort has to die...
>>>>>
GINNY can give harry
>>>>>
if she dies voldemort may not be able to kill harry which will help harry to finish voldy
and harry will have the the desire to kill voldy...
so its likely for ginny to die
boggart... i came into this thread to suggest possibly neville...would show "true" colors like he has in other books. perhaps die...and give harry the chance he needs... who knows. but readin ur post i certainly agree with you. it would make since. cause so far harry has not been inclined to kill LV...just elude and evade. if DD death has not fully given a reason to kill LV...then in ur case..if that is the outcome it would def fit. Nice...
nevillesgirl
Feb 26 2007, 10:10 PM
This is my first post on this forum and I was just wondering if anyone out there has considered the possibility that Ickle Prefect Percy will die in HP7?
Consider...his ambition and choices made in GOF, OOTP and HBP have all seriously paralleled Barty Crouch SR. (and look what happened to him.) I think that Percy, while not positioning himself on the side of the Death Eaters, has in fact positioned himself against the Order and his family. It is very possible that while trying to make amends for his horrid behavior he will snuff it just like Crouch Sr. as he was trying to fix his mistakes. Who kills him? I have no clue.
What do y'all think?
In response to theoptigid...
I don't think that Snape will be the one who kills Lucius. There is no vendetta that he should. Hear me out though. What if Hermione kills Lucius? The complete irony of the situation that a mere mudblood

(sorry for the term guys) has done him in is way too satisfying not to consider. Besides, Hermione needs a battle in book 7, everyone else of importance seems to have one.
1. Harry vs. Voldemort
2. Neville vs. Bella
3. Lupin vs. Greyback
4. Ron vs. Draco ?
Well I can't think of others right now but I'm sure there is more.
orome527
Feb 26 2007, 10:17 PM
SPOILER>>>> SPOILER>>>> SPOILER!!!!!
There are indications that at least two of the main characters will die. In a June 2006 interview about the previously-written ending, Rowling stated that:
"One character got a reprieve, but I have to say two die that I didn't intend to die...A price has to be paid. We are dealing with pure evil...They go for the main characters... well, I do".
Two of the main characters.... i would like to ask tho...Who ARE exactly the MAIN characters?
Potter_Addict_713
Feb 26 2007, 10:50 PM
orome527... well lets think:
1) Harry
2) Voldemort
3) Ron
4) Hemione
5) Draco
6)Snape
those are the people that HAVE to be important... other than that I feel there is a fairly good chance for Neville, Ginny, Bella, Lucius, Regulus, and Pettigrew to be pretty main characters. Pretty much anyone has the potential to be "great" or a main character in the next book, but those are my thoughts...
In responce to theoptigid, I think you are absulutly right! I have always believed Draco to never pure evil. He has always had some good in his heart, whether is shows or not. In HBP Draco deffinetly had the abilities to kill Dumbledore easialy... well I shouldnt say easialy, but it probably could be done without much stress... but, like you said theoptigid, he did some pretty foolish stuff instead. I think Draco wanted Dumbledore to find out so that he would get expelled or something, and not be able to finish the job, so he didn't have to do it anymore... I have already said this, but I really do love Draco' character, and I feel he will "show his true colors" in DH.
No, Harry will never fully trust Draco,but I think they could eventually get over each other. Though, a lot depends on trust, and without trust, even if you put two extremely powerful and capable wizards together (Draco and Harry) they could still fail...
Also adding on to my thoughts before about who would die... Jo said that "two die that I did not intend to die..." That means there could be more than TWO segnificant characters who die. Personally, I believe Voldemort doesn't count in the two characters Jo did not want to die, because he seems like and obvious character who MUST die... but thats just my opinion.
Ginevra_hena
Feb 27 2007, 11:26 AM
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6)Snape
Why don't people pay attention to what Jo says for once?? Snape's a major surviving character! He's not the one dying - for sure.
And as for the two people, I have always thrown arrows in the dark, and they always end up on Hermione/Ginny or Draco/Ron
psychoticpuffball
Feb 28 2007, 04:07 AM
QUOTE(boggart @ Feb 26 2007, 03:11 AM) [snapback]333563[/snapback]
everybody is throwing arrows in the darkness...
anybody thought about the prophecy...
it says either harry has to die.. or voldemort has to die...
>>>>>
GINNY can give harry
>>>>>
if she dies voldemort may not be able to kill harry which will help harry to finish voldy
and harry will have the the desire to kill voldy...
so its likely for ginny to dieginny could die to save harry yes, but haven't enough people already sacrificed their lives in order to save harry? i can see harry giving his life inorder to save the ones he cares about from voldemort not only because he loves them all, but because he has to give something back to the wizarding world not that harry's life is worth all of the peoples who gave theirs but then harry will also be reunited with sirius and his parents which is something that harry wishes for most (one could assume)
QUOTE(Ginevra_hena @ Feb 22 2007, 02:33 AM) [snapback]330902[/snapback]
You know something, I think Jo is really affectionate for Hagrid's character, so, there might also be a possibility that Hagrid's spared. There are loads to be killed, like, Molly Weasley?
i cant really see hagrid dying though anythings possible
and its sad to say but i think at least one of the weasleys will end up dying *cry*
orome527
Feb 28 2007, 08:09 PM
hey yall i just come up with this wonderful wonderful theory. well a unsupported what if one. what if JK kills off harry ron and hermy? hey...author protectin her work. still could be a great ending...huh.
sound weird?
based on how the stories have gone...how much HARRY POTTER the books are based upon those three characters. i just dont see JK killin them off. i mean for a few priveledge other characters i dont think JK could give a rats tooshy if they die or not. for the two main characters who are supposed to die...im bettin on two main characters that arnt important to the storyline? persay...
just my thinkin
X-Girl
Mar 1 2007, 12:03 AM
OMG I have a theory, drumroll please, that Harry may die. Are you ready?
It starts in Gof. Cedric who is not incredibly important but has a large role dies.
In OotP Sirius who is very important to the story, to Harry, and to a lot of readers dies.
In HBP Dumbledore who is extreamely important, someone who is like a part of the series' foundation who is one of the last powerful adult figures in Harry's life and a favorite character among a lot of people dies.
Through the last three books characters of more and more importance die. It stands to reason then that maybe the most important character will die. There can be debates about who the most important character is but it is Harry Potter. Not Ron Wealey, Hermione Granger, Severus Snape, or Lord Voldemort.
I'm not saying no-one else will die because I'm sure they will but this is my newest idea. What do you all think of it?
Ginevra_hena
Mar 1 2007, 11:59 AM
well, Harry's, I guess, almost into his grave by now - I mean, Jo's written the book and there's no other perfect way to end the story...I mean, what would remain in the story for Harry if he stays alive? Not Ginny, cos I guess, it's already hinted that she may lose her life too
X-Girl
Mar 2 2007, 11:51 PM
I dunno if Ginny will die. It would be depressing. But now I can easily picture her dying half-way through the book. It would make Ron really mad. Remember how upset they all were when she got taken into the Chamber, with the situation the way it is they'd want revenge.
zonkos_employee
Mar 3 2007, 12:40 PM
I think that the best way to end this book would be to have LV die!!!

(I know, obvious choice) The other people that I think will die are,
1.One of the trio. I do not think that all of them could come out alive.
2.If not Ron in the trio, another Weasley or maybe two.(eg. Fred/George could because they have a shop in Diagon Alley. If I'm not mistaken, wasn't there two disapearances? the wand guy and madam malkin?, Maybe Mr Weasley.. He's a ministry person and well, Nagini didn't try to kill him in the 5th book did she? he was blocking her way into the department of mysteries anyway I think he is a choice.)
3.People from the Order-I actually think that Snape will die because (I am hoping that he is really on the good side) LV will find out that he was just spying on him and then he will avada kedavra him.
Those are all of my reasons what do you think?
BredInCaptivity
Mar 4 2007, 09:25 AM
hmm... i dont think Harry will die coz the story is told from Harrys viewpoint. if Harry dies, who will end the story? dead-Harry maybe? ... his dying thoughts? ...
also, i dont think hermione will die coz JK uses her to reveal the important (brainy) info to us to progress the story. could Ron be in this category too? ... he seems a usefull tool for making us feel Harrys life is more ... dramatic. would Harry be rich if Ron wasnt poor? would we be less sad about the lack family for Harry if Ron wasnt from such a large & loving one? ... etc & so on.
I guess Hermy & R could both die (horribly to be sure) very near the end when they outlive their usefullness to the story. Tho methinks not - wouldnt serve any purpose 'cept make us all very (very) depressed.
Ginny maybe - tho JK is a mother herself and i cant see her knocking off minors - even naughty ones like malfoy, nah, I think the killin' will be limited to growups, giants, merpeople & centaurs.
masseter
Mar 5 2007, 07:28 PM
It will be Hagrid, and Neville. Hagrid because he is Harry's last real protector. And the deaths have grow closer and closer to Harry. First Cedric, a schoolmate, but not really close. Sirius, godfather, but didn't have a chance to get to know him really well. Dumbledore, clearly close, father figure. But Hagrid, he has been there since the beginning. Pulled him out of the rubble, delivered him to the Dursleys, told him he is a wizard, has always been there for him. What a blow to kill Hagrid.
And Neville, simply because Neville is turning into a great character. Getting stronger and stronger, you love him, feel sorry for him, want him to be a hero. Has stood beside Harry from book one, fought with him at the ministry, fought against the death eaters at Hogwarts, and will be killed battling the death eaters, but not until he defeats bellatrix, or at least I hope not.
No to Ron, Hermione and Harry because hopefully, in the end, she remembered that this is a children's book.
Madmoiselle Lilly
Mar 5 2007, 11:20 PM
I've already posted here but whatever. lol. I think what I'm posting now is different than what I posted before.
I have a list of people who Harry has saved throughout the series:
`Hermione
`Ron
`Ginny
`Arthur Weasley
I know I've probably forgotten some but that's not the point I'm trying to make here. My point is, chances are that at least one person that Harry has saved will die to save Harry.
Other than that, there are lots of good theories as to who could die so I won't bore you all by posting all of the people on my list.
zonkos_employee
Mar 6 2007, 03:02 AM
Wait, was it in the 1st book(the troll) where Harry&Ron saved Hermione or was there another part that I am not thinking of right now?
pumpkinjuice
Mar 6 2007, 09:15 PM
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hmm... i dont think Harry will die coz the story is told from Harrys viewpoint. if Harry dies, who will end the story? dead-Harry maybe? ... his dying thoughts? ...
I was thinking about this very point this weekend, and what made me wonder about it was reading Quidditch Through the Ages and Fantastic Beasts. FB is supposed to be Harry's book. When was he supposed to have given his book over for reproduction? (of course, DD writes the introduction, and we know he's dead....I think....). He hasnt done so in the books so far. Then I thought about the narrative standpoint being his, and it struck me as weird for the narrative perspective to die, unless the last one leads to the extinguishing of its author/perspective. But then I thought, shouldnt the non-Harry chapters ultimately have a rooting in Harry's perspective? Spinners End and The Other Minister, and the chapter with Frank Bryce. Shouldnt someone have told him these stories at some point, for them to get in the books? Hard to say, its JKR's books and narrative decisions. She did say she enjoyed writing those chapters, so maybe they really are non-Harry chapters. And maybe the books will end with a few of them.
Anyhow, my thoughts lately about deaths have been focused on the Weasley twins. When Harry and Ron play chess at one point, the game ends with two reckless pawns and an unnecessarily violent bishop. I'm thinking Draco (the Bishop--he was described as looking like a vicar when dressed for the Yule Ball) may kill the Weasley twins (reckless pawns).
masseter
Mar 6 2007, 09:35 PM
draco isn't going to kill anyone. that was the whole point on top of the tower, he isn't a killer and couldn't do it. a part of book seven will be how he tries to get away from voldemort
pumpkinjuice
Mar 6 2007, 11:27 PM
Maybe not, maybe Draco realized he is not at all a killer.
But let's not forget that he just watched Snape kill DD. Quite a role model. What this means depends on what it meant that Snape killed DD. Which we do not know yet!
Just because Draco chickened out once doesnt mean he will again. We don't know what the future holds for him, which way his conscience will be coached and molded. Much depends on where Draco winds up and with whom.
We also know that Draco was independent enough this year to stand up to Snape, and block him with Occlumency. Draco, JKR has told us, is, like Snape, able to compartmentalize his emotions and thoughts--that's what makes him dangerous. Harry is not, and that's why he fails at Occlumency while Draco excels. She has said that everyone besides LV is redeemable, but that does not mean they will be redeemed, especially with the most trusting, redeeming person now gone, at Snape's hand. DD offered Draco a way out, and DD is gone. Draco is, I suspect, susceptible to despair--we see that in Myrtle's bathroom.
XDumbledoreX
Mar 7 2007, 05:47 AM
I don't think Neville will die but i have a few good feelings about some others. Chief among them are Hagrid first and foremost (how much more loss can Harry take?) and a number of the weasley's, namely Ginny and Percy. Percy has become detached from the family and I think Rowling might kill him off to really show that there will be deaths, though he'll die nobly shwoing his love still for his family. Hagrid has got to go, just because he's the closest thing to a father harry has now and Harry has to lose someone close.
Ginny is more difficult because i am a big supporte of Ginny, in every way, and don't want her gone. But Rowling has been developing the character and great writers sometimes get rid of their best characters or are criticised for not doing so. Other people think that she will give up her life for harry or die in the final battle but I'm not sure. What does anyone else think???
BredInCaptivity
Mar 7 2007, 08:45 AM
Pumpkinjuice. See your reasoning and like your ideas. I guess JK could let Harry die & finish the book with a perspective such as spinners end - I cant imagine how it would read - but then, thats why JK is a talented (not to mention filthy rich) author ... and im not.
... now i need to find another theory for why Harry will/should be spared coz i seriously desire a happy ending.
Zibby
Mar 7 2007, 04:04 PM
It is pretty obvious what has to happen in the last book.
Just think of the Matrix Trilogy.
Neo sacrificed himself to kill Smith and save both worlds.
I predict that is exactly what Harry will have to do. He won't be able to defeat Voldy with his magical abilities, but Voldy's success in killing Harry will bring about his own downfall.
Remember when Dumbledore had that fleeting look of triumph in his eyes when Harry told him about Voldy using his blood to regenerate? Well that basically means that Voldy and Harry are now connected by both blood and magic. If Harry dies, Voldy is gonna go with him. Dumbledore realized then that no matter what happened, Harry's inevitable battle with Voldy will have to end with Voldy's death, even if it kills Harry too.
Just my thoughts on it. Makes me sad too, but I had a feeling from the beginning there would be no other way to end this...
XDumbledoreX
Mar 7 2007, 09:41 PM
I like the theory about harry and voldemort being connected by blood Zibby that seems very logical to me although that doesn't mean that harry has to die. It means Voldemort is attached to Harry via blood not that Harry is attached to Voldemort. I don't think the bok will end with Harry dying, i just dont think JKR would do that even though it would(regrettably) be the right ending for the book. I don't want it to happen and i don't think it will i guess we will have to see but i hope harry isn't offed in the end
jdawginsc
Mar 7 2007, 09:57 PM
Really, the books are told from a third person omniscient-type observer perspective, but follow Harry throughout. Rowling could still focus on Harry through the perspective whether dead or alive.
The Centaurs saw it in Sorcerer's Stone...Harry must die. Even Firenze says he hopes the planets are wrong. Of course, maybe the Centaurs have a lesson in Dumbledore's words about self-fulfilling prophecy.
Somehow, I think Firenze becomes significant once more.
XDumbledoreX
Mar 9 2007, 02:39 AM
your right you know i forgot about that prediction honestly. But dont you think it's a little odd that the centaurs for once predict that Harry a specific individual person will or needs to die? They are always cpcerned about the big picture and everything and now they turn to one boy and say he will die? I know they predicted war and it coincieds with Harry but i think Dumbledore is right in doubting thhaat theory, especvially when Trelawney has been predicting it for so long and the Firenze just ignores her

. I guess it just hope harry doesnt die but the centuars permonition does have merit, i mean they are a lot better at that than Trelawney. I still think Hagrid will die
crumplehornedsnorkak
Mar 10 2007, 01:17 AM
YEAH!! I sure hope that Neville gets revenge on Bellatrix..but he better not kill Voldemort!! no offense, but that would be like stealing Harry's thunder!!! it would be kind of an anti climax....the books are about HARRY POTTER....and it would REALLY bother me if Harry didnt end the book, whether for better or for worse
Ginevra_hena
Mar 12 2007, 08:04 AM
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YEAH!! I sure hope that Neville gets revenge on Bellatrix
I think everyone's hoping for this, everyone would just love it. And, I think it's more of a fact that it's decided, the way Neville's importance has increased book - by - book.
Which also means, he's a likely candidate to go up there!
Katowaggles
Mar 12 2007, 07:54 PM
I personally think that Harry and Neville will go in to fight Voldemort together after Neville and Harry kill bellatrix, but i think that harry and voldemort will die, it makes sense even if harry lives he will never be able to have a normal life, he has been so affected by his battles with voldemort that he can't return to normal, their wands and lives are linked, i think Neville will become Head Auror and that Neville will help harry finish off voldemort.
freddylove
Mar 13 2007, 07:40 AM
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I personally think that Harry and Neville will go in to fight Voldemort together after Neville and Harry kill bellatrix, but i think that harry and voldemort will die, it makes sense even if harry lives he will never be able to have a normal life, he has been so affected by his battles with voldemort that he can't return to normal, their wands and lives are linked, i think Neville will become Head Auror and that Neville will help harry finish off voldemort.
sounds exciting
XDumbledoreX
Mar 13 2007, 03:17 PM
I personally don't think Neville will be along for the ride in the Voldemort fight, I don't think Harry will be alone but he will not be joined by Neville. Ok and please someone give me their thoughts on Hagrid dying? I think he will
keith
Mar 13 2007, 11:01 PM
I've read that alchemy theory online about how the order in which the deaths occur can be figured out by looking at the stages of alchemy.first the black stage obviously sirius black,then the white stage,which would be dumbledore.Then tyhe red stage,which i tink,fortells hagrids death.as his first name is rubeus...like a ruby which is red.So i believe that at least hagrid will die in the final book.Though it would be a shame he's kind of the only parent figure he has left.
XDumbledoreX
Mar 14 2007, 10:21 PM
yeah i just read that this morning too it sounds plausible and i really think its going to happen. Hagrid has to die, that would be the worst loss for harry. I also think Percy Weasley will die and possibly Fudge. Another Auror will die I don't know who, it would suck if it were Shacklebolt. Of the bad guys slated to be offed I'm betting Draco and some more death eaters don't know though but right now I have Hagrid, Percy, Draco, and possibly Snape and Fudge scheduled for the axe
Salty
Mar 15 2007, 01:22 AM
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i really hope he doesnt he's one of my favorate characters, and i dont think he will he might get hurt and then get up and kill belaltrix(he might be able to kill because of his anger).
NEVILLE ROCKS!!!!
I'm assuming Neville will in fact kill Bella. Like most people Neville probably won't hold back.
I have just came up with a brilliant beyond brilliant idea. Wouldn't it be nice if Neville got revenge on Snape? I mean 5 years of torture has to do something to a man right?
Note * Sorry members of Veritaserum who support Severus Snape *
919-anna
Mar 15 2007, 06:13 AM
ok
so if ne of the weasley die lupin tonks tht crown neville luna hagrid and just like the good side of the main characters i will b sad
but if like harry ron hermione or ginny die then im gonna b realli sad
so i dnt no who will die but id rather it be someone i didnt like
cant wait till it comes out but i dnt no wat im gonna do wen it ends cause its been like part of my life for like 7 years
o well
anna
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Wronski-Feint
Mar 15 2007, 06:34 PM
Ron or Harry, one of them will die.
Remeber in book 3 (Prisoner of azkaban) Trelawney was sitting with them at christmas dinner and said something along the lines of ' whoever is the first to leave a table of 13 is the first to die' (something like that) and she even made a big point of asking which rose first.
I personally think it was Ron who got up first- Ron will die.
Trelawney is often correct in her predictions.
And I know someone will mention that Dumbledore being the first dead from that table at christmas dinner, therefore making all Trelawney said complete tripe - BUT- i dont even think he is dead.
XDumbledoreX
Mar 15 2007, 09:22 PM
when are the other times Trelawney has been right? other than her real prophecies in which she went into a trance when has she been right. Dumbledore doesn't even like divination and he doesn't think she has made more than those two correct predictions. Dumbledore is dead (in my opinion) (especially if you follow the alchemy theory) so i would say he efinitely id the first person dead at that table.
I know it can't be all good people who die in 7 but I just put down the good ones because there are a lot more bad people that have a potential to die. I don't know, right now I'm fairly sure Hagrid and Percy are definitely going to die any other ideas?
waiting_for_evermore
Mar 16 2007, 10:09 AM
My brother is sure of himself that Harry will die. Something about epic value... or somethign along the lines of that... I'm not sure about the death of Harry, but it would give her a reason to not have to write any more Potter books. I had never really thought of Hagrid dying, but it would really make sense. He could die trying to protect his brother or Harry, anyone. But I could really see Hagrid being one of the main characters who gets knocked off.
I don't really think that Neville has as big a role as many people think he does. Yes it could have been him that the prophecy spoke of, but I don't think he will become an Auror, or be the one who stands by Harry's side as he kills Voldemort. I really get the feeling that it will be the Trio together, but then again one or two of them may be dead by then. Only time and the 7th book will tell I guess.
Ginevra_hena
Mar 16 2007, 11:55 AM
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I don't really think that Neville has as big a role as many people think he does
Why do you think so? After the ministry duel, I think it's very clear that Neville has a major role to play. Could you specify why? I mean, your speculations might trigger a good topic to talk about