I think snape has some good in him but i am not whole heartedly surde that he will use it for harrys good this is a confusing conundrum and on JKR will know the truth

I think that the order would be open to accepting death eaters who "turned from their ways" had it not been for snape. Now they may not accept any who truly want to change for fear of history repeating itself. If the order did accept a former death eater, it certainly wouldn't be without caution and strong suspicions. The former death eater would most likely have to do something to prove their loyalty to the order before being fully accepted.
On a somewhat different subject, but pertaining to what nevillesgirl said, isn't the same kind of untrust going on in the order as with the death eaters? I mean, even when dumbledore accepted someone, the order still had trust issues with people (snape, for example, and I'm just using him as an example). this also goes back to the first war, where members during that war suspected everyone and their mother of being a spy. so no one's really trusting anyone.

Excellent point seriouslylovinsirius I completely forgot about the first war. Wasn't it in fact in book three where Sirius apologized to Moony for suspecting him in the first place for being the leak to Voldemort? You are right. And now with DD MIA, how much more is the Order going to be on guard. Suspicions must be running high

well who says there is going to be an order?

who is a strong enough leader i cant see anyone being better than DD?

im not sure but the order isnt going to be that strong

You could of course be correct justin, that the Order is just going to fall apart. That is normally how things work...kill the leader and the rest will dissipate. Somehow though in this instance I don't think that will be the course the Order takes. They know how important it is to keep fighting Voldemort and they will want Dumbledore avenged. Whether they elect a new leader or just come together in a sort of democracy my guess is as good as anyone elses(only JKR knows ) but in my opinion, the Order is quite strong. It has many faithful members with a variety of talents and skills

I had a thought. JKR introduced us to the Muggle Minister in book 6 for a reason right? What if it is to combine forces and make them part of the Order? That would certainly give it some strength right?

in answer to nevillesgirl. i dont think the order would ever team up with the muggle ministry. its too risky. too many muggles would find out about magic. and because they have no power they would be killed instantly. they wouldnt serve as much help to the order. and then how would they cover up all of those muggle deaths. If they tried to team up with the muggle ministry it seems like it would do more harm then good. maybe if they were completely desperate.

I really don't see the order joining up with the Muggle Ministry, JKR must have introduced him for a different reason, probably just to show how this war is affecting both Muggles and wizards alike. As far as the order dissapating or being weaker I'm gonna have to say no way to that. Like you said nevillesgirl the present members will be very interested in avenging Dumbledore now that he has passed. AS far as a new leader I like the idea of a democracy but you still need some form of leader and as the best defense against Voldemort I'd say the Order is full of potential leaders. McGonagall? (succeeded Dumbledore as headmisstress) Lupin (Charasmatic though the werewolf thing might be a problem) Mad-eye? Kingsley? (though both have been in the order a long time may not work because they are aurors and one's job is to protect the Muggle minister. I don't know I'm just saying I'd say there is definitely potential for a new leader and the order will be stronger. Plus now I'd say present members might be more interested in accepting new users. They would be cautious but after losing Dumbledore they must be eager for allies. Though new members might not get full access to the order until they have proven their worth. We will see

How would we ever know if we could trust a reformed D-E? I don't know. Apparently Veritaserum (the potion, not the site) can even be fooled by a gifted and prepared wizard.

I also don't know how to trust the MoM wizards either. They are too interested in "looking like they are doing something" than actually doing something. I mean *swear word* if they still have Umbridge working for them, they aren't exactly working with a full deck now are they?

Who can lead us out of the abyss left by DDs untimely demise? I think it will end up being Mad Eye Moody, he seems to be the strongest personality among the members we know. And will Mundungus be brought up on charges???

And for a last note, I was all eaten up with march madness, until today's Georgia Tech game. I picked them to win out of state loyalty and at last glance they were getting pounded into dust by UNLV.

i think the order will still be strong and hold together unfortunaltely, it will be weaker without their leafer and strongest, most wise etc wizard.

there are a few leaders in my mind. Mcgonagall because she was dd's succsessor and very strong. Lupin because in my mind he is the smartest and one of hte strongest wizards in the order, the only problem with him is his werewolf... possibly mad eye because of his strength in wizardry. In my mind, Lupin is the new leader.

i also do not think that the order will team up with the muggle ministry nor the MoM because of some problems like too manymuggles finding out and umbridge among other members of MoM that are not trustworthy among other things.

Hi Im new to the forums but am very interested in your choice of Topic...correct me if Im wrong You are discussing who might step up to the plate as far as the Order goes and what kind of leader they may be, or what actions the Order may take as a group.

I dont believe for one minute that they will dissapate, although I do believe that this is what LV hopes for. I also dont think the Order will ever consent to mingle with the muggle ministry or MoM as they both seem to be more interest in how they appear, or what they appear to be doing, then the fact that they are losing this battle.

As far as leadership possibilities, I think Mad Eye is out, yes he has extaordinary powers as he was an auror...but for lack of a better expression.. he is mad, not to mention a tid bit parinoid..with good reason of course. Lupin I think would make a good leader but as he demonstated before he is willing to fight but his furry little problem holds him back. I dont think he would let them make him thier leader. I do however have confidence in Mcgonagall...as so many of you have stated she was DD's successor and her knowledge is great, she seems like a natural choice. I also like the Idea of a democracy. This leaves more room for more ideas and a majority wins...the down side is if someone gets voted down it could cause dissension within the Order. Only time will tell.

These are my thought for now... Hope to join...by the way you can call me Frankie

Absolutely the risk would be huge if the entire muggle ministry were privy to the magical world however, I think it would be prudent to allow the muggle ministry a more active role in the fight against the DE. As far as I can tell from HBP the MoM has been sort of dictating information to the muggle prime minister. Suppose he is allowed a more active role. After all it is the muggles that are affected too by Lord Voldemorts cruelty. I mean, they have no power now and people are being killed anyway. Besides, Voldemort likely doesn't see them as a threat because he sees them as weak and inadequate in comparison to the wizarding world (pure bloods in particular). That would be a perfect cover I think.

Wow, haven't been in here in a few days and I missed alot! Ok....mmm....Please bear with me, I didn't read through everyones posts, just narrowed in on the big questions, so if I repeat anything, I'm sorry.


That's a really good point, they didn't ever really trust each other during the first war and they certainly never really trusted Snape, he was more of an 'Well, Dumbledore's always right, so he must be good.' sort of thing. But they didn't really trust him. However, this is different from the first war. The order were better prepared and I think that they can trust each other because they had that warning.


Hmm...good point. But I think that the order will stick around. While it is true that they don't really have a strong leader anymore, do you really think that people like Lupin and Tonks would be content to just stop fighting? Even without Dumbledore, the members are still dedicated to their cause, and they know that they need help, they can't do it on their own, so they'll stick together.

I know there's more, but I gotta get off now, so I'll be back later with more...

The Order will still be around. As for a leader, that will be diffecult. I think it will happen by default.

MM will not be the leader as she doesn't know most of what is going on. She has been purposefully lleft in the dark by DD so that she can run Hogwarts and keep the students and their education in mind. She does not have to worry about the other things. Student safety is bad enough.

Snape is gone or he would be the logical choice. Everyone left 'trusts' him becaue DD 'trusted' him.
Arthur is not strong enough to lead.
Lupin has his issues.
Mad eye is just to mad and paranoid.
Tonks is not confident enough and too soft.
I think Molly would make a great leader but she is too busy.


Harry will be the leader. He knows the most, except for Snape, about DDs plans. He knows what he needs to do and can have the others do odd jobs to help. He wont want the job and may delegate most of it to others but all will look to him for decisions and such.

Cris

I like the idea of Harry becoming the leader of the Order...but can he? I mean, technically he's not even a member yet, so how could he be the leader? And even if he could, I think he'd be a little preoccupied with trying to hunt down the horcruxes

Harry as leader...this is something to ponder. He will be of age and he does have the most infromation besides Snape, but you must also consider that he would not confide in Mcgonagall about what he and DD were doing the night that they left. So we must also wonder would he confide in the Order as a whole. He will eventually need more help than Ron and Hermione, and the Order is there for the sole perpose of fighting LV and his DE's, but with out confiding in the Order I do not believe he could lead them.

very true, harry may be a good leader but horcruxes, only confiding in his friends and also not the brains to be a leader. he has talent but not the brains to go with it (not saying he is dumb). molly would be an okay leader except for the facts taht she is too busy and also not too strong.i say either lupin or mcgonagall and if i had my choice, lupin.

I don't think McGonagal, she's to busy with Hogwarts. Plus, I'm thinking that the head of the Order would also be at the head of Voldemorts kill list. So, it's safer if she isn't because that'll mean the Death Eaters would be headed to Hogwarts again to do in the Headmistress.

very true that she would be busy but DD did it didnt he? and well yes she would probably be at the top of the kill list and that would be bad but she is still the best choice no one else is fite

Yes DD was headmaster but he left quite frequently and left MM in charge. That is why she was not privy to the PLAN. She had to concentrate on the school only.

I'm not saying Harry wants to lead or has the 'brains' to lead. I'm saying, being the Chosen One, the others will naturally follow his lead. They will look to him for guidance and leadership. He will not want it. Right now he wants nothing but to go it alone. He can't because Hermione and Ron (and Ginny) wont let him, but he wants no liabilities.

He will probably get exasperated and tell them off but will accpet the role during the big fight.

Just my humble take on the character and his feelings.

Cris

very true he will probably end up the leader being the chosen one and all but i still think he is not fit oh well.. nothing i can do...

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I still think Mcgonagall is the natural choice...If DD did both why could she not do both...as far as being the top of the kill list any body who is known to be involved in the Order would be on the Kill list...so what differance does it make?

I personally think LV will now be more focused on Harry as him Prime target...with DD gone Harry is his Greatest threat...LV will just consider the rest a nuisance.



I agree with this... just as Ron and Hermione have followed Harry ..the Order will eventually follow as well whether he likes it or not...I agree in the Big fight...He will accept his role.

Because with Mcgonagall at Hogwarts, it's more dangerous for the students. And, true Dumbledore did it, but he was constantly leaving and leaving Mcgonagall in charge, that's why she wasn't in on the biggest secrets, because she needs to be kept somewhat in the dark on the order to focus better on the school.

Funny, those are my thoughts almost exactly. Except that the students will be in more danger than they were with DD. Is this because DD had all the protections around the school? I would think that MM and the remaining Professors would be able to do it.

Cris

Love_Me_Amortentia: if DD could do both, why cant McGonagall?

~I think that truly depends on whether or not she is also going to continue teaching transfiguration. The school is having a difficult time of filling its staff roster. they will need a new DADA teacher as well. I dont know if anyone besides DD who could do Headmistress, Teacher, and Head of the Order.

thatsprofessortoyou: not saying Harry wants or has the brains to lead but being the chosen one will make others naturally follow him

~I tend to think that Harry will step into that role of leader nicely. Remeber he was apprehensive about teaching the Dark Arts to his fellow students but overcame that and then did so with enthusiasm and success. I think Harry will come to accept that others want to bring Voldemort down just as much as he does and will embrace his newfound role as leader.

I completely agree with Weasly_girl-83. McGonagall would be such a big target if she did head up the Order and be Headmistress. I think she would be rather concerned for the saftey of the students.

~nevillesgirl

Love_Me_Amortentia: if DD could do both, why cant McGonagall?

because hes DD he can do anything
(except live through the sixth book)

i dont think MM will be able to step in because she isnt as strong or even near as good as DD

i think that if snape was still in the order than he would be the best choice (he is one of the best wizrds in the book) but im sure no one will be willing to trust snape so thats out of the qeustion

Hey everyone, and welcome to Mooop week!

We'll be celebrating the one years existence of Mooop with a different topic every day. You're welcome to keep on talking about the current topic too, of course! Today, we'd like you to share any poems or short stories about the Order, not more than 150 words or so. An example could be the possible exchange between Harry and Mad-Eye when Harry has to try to explain to him that his hip flask is a horcrux and has to be destroyed...

As for the topic at hand: actually, my favourite for being the new leader of the Order is Kingsley Shacklebolt. I really like McGonagall, but she just doesn't command enough respect and composure to be leader of the Order and Headmistress. I think she'll make a good headmistress, but Kingsley may make a better leader of the Order. Thoughts?

i completely agree. MM is tough and strong but DD kept her in the dark about many things meaning i think he just wanted her to take care of hogwarts and not worry herself about the order too much. Harry of course would be a good choice for leader but he is just too young and he isn't experienced enough with the order to be able to direct others. especially while he's out looking for horcruxes. He doesn't have time to worry about what everyone else has to do. Also, it would feel awkward to me if Harry was telling all his superiors what to do. I'm sure they would listen to him but it wouldn't feel right.

We don't know too much about Kingsley Shacklebolt but he seems like a strong determined auror. and Tonks said that he's been an auror longer than her. we don't know how much longer but it seems like he's been doing it for a while. He would be the perfect person to step up and take control while the trio are off saving the day.

I for one don't know kingsey shacklebolt's character well enough to say whether or not he would make a good leader, but i definitely think MM won't. She makes a really good headmistress of hogwarts because she cares about the students, but i don't think she would make a good leader for the order because she runs to much on emotions. in the dangerous situations the order faces, they need quick decision making; there's no time to be emotional or worried-that has to be pushed aside. I don't think MM has the ability to come up with tactics to fighting LV either. As for Kingsley, he might be more qualified to make quick decisions and keep his head and throw his emotions aside. MM could surprise us, though...

As for harry, his worry doesn't need to be the running of the order; he just needs to find the horcruxes and destroy them. Running the order would bring to much stress, and he may not know the best ways of approaching dangerous situations that could cost not only his but many other people's lives. Plus, harry runs to much on his emotions, such as anger, to make good and not rash decisions.

I can't see Harry being the new leader. I mean it might make sense, the rest of the order would respect him, and i think it's definitely a possibility in the future but right now is not the time. He isn't a member yet as has been mentioned and he needs to concentrate elsewhere. I don't see MM taking over even though i thought so before. It seemed natural since she was DD successor everywhere else but she needs someone srong in front of her to back them up. She is always asking advice and questioning and she is strong but she was stongest with Dumbledore around. I think she'll do great at Hogwarts but not as Order leader. Kingsley is a possibility but I think he is too much of fighter sort of like Mad eye. I personally see it being Lupin andI don't know why i couldn't be. Yes he has the whole werewolf thing going on but so what? What else can he do now except lead the order? The other side knows now where his loyalties lie so he can't be a were-spy anymore. He can't keep a decent job anywhere else either because everyone knows he's a werewolf after 3rd year so he might as well stay at the headquarters, be leader, and keep a low profile when he goes out. He's my pick for new leader. He's talented, he's smart, he's level headed just like Dumbledore. He knows a lot about the other side and a lot about harry and his past. Seems perfect to me. Plus he's smart enough...he can make his own wolfsbane potion.

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Ok, folks - it's Mooop Week Day 2, and it was exactly a year ago that the first post was made in Mooop. Our topic today is the Marauders and Lily, and their involvement with the Order. Here are a few questions you can chew over and tell us what you think!

-How did the Marauders get introduced to the Order?
-Did the Marauders get special assignments because of their connections to Dumbledore?
-Which Marauder helped the Order the most?
-Did Lily and James have to go into hiding because of something that happened in the Order?
-What was Lily's role in the OotP?

Have fun!

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Now let's see Capricorn's questions...



- I am not sure how they would accept a new member. I guess some might not have been too happy about it, the marauders must have been very young when they got to the Order so this might have caused doubts from the elder ones. But i think that generally, people were pleased to see 4 young men willing to fight. At that time, they could use any possible help, and what can be better than these full of passion boys?

-No, i don't think this is possible. They were too young and unexperienced to be handled special assignments. Even for Lupin eg who was a werewolf, and could approach the werewolf community. Dumbledore could not risk it and the rest could not take it. Plus, Dumbledore always wanted to be fair. He made Draco prefect (a lame example, i know) though he was an...whatever...but he tried to be fair. So this applies to OotP as well.

-Hm...i would say Sirious. And James. And Lupin. Oh well! Everyone except Pettigrew!... Sirius' and James' ability to transform to animals may have helped them to spy on people unnoticed. Though James' look may have caught the attention. But this could be helpful over all. As for Lupin, as already mentioned, his werewolf-ism made him the most appropriate person to approach the rest of the werewolves. I don't think i can choose and it would be kind of unfair...

-No, i think it was the prophecy that led them to hiding. Dumbledore figured out its meaning and urged them to hide in order to protect. I don't think the Order is associated with it at any way.

-Lily...i guess she was the woman power in the Order. She must have done all the cheering and she may have fought a few times, being a great witch and all. Also, she may have tried to protect the Muggles, being half-Muggle herself and she may have tried to turn the Ministry to their side. I mean, Slughorn loved her and maybe she could have helped her find her way inside the Ministry. That's my guess... What do you think about it?

That is all for now!

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Happy MOOP week! *laughs*

anyways...
-How did the Marauders get introduced to the Order?
oooo wow! difficult... i am not sure at all. prehaps they were introduced to the order by someone in the order who knew their talents. i can't see them joining something without knowing some of the people in the Order. erm i have no idea i guess erm maybe they were introduced by Dumbledore...maybe he introduced one of them and then the rest got in on the action .... as you can tell i ahve no idea what i'm babbling on about.

-Did the Marauders get special assignments because of their connections to Dumbledore?
i can't see them getting special assignmets because of their connections... maybe that helped but i would think to earn special assignments that would have to be skilled in the area required. it would be dangerous sending people to do some things just simply because of connections and yes the whole times were dangerous with Voldermort but basing it on their connections... nah.i don't think they would have got special assignments.

-Which Marauder helped the Order the most?
ooo that's hard! erm everyone contributes in their own way so it's hard to judge and say who contributed most...
well Lupin would have had his "off days" and might not have contributed as much... i guess i have no idea. erm i will go with what alkisti said ... everyone but Peter!

-Did Lily and James have to go into hiding because of something that happened in the Order?
i have thought this before i thought that something happened in the Order... like James and Lily exposed some secrets of Voldermort or they were the reason why a few of the best death eaters went behind bars... erm i think the order may have played some part or at least what working in the order meant for your life but i think that maybe the prophecy played a part.

-What was Lily's role in the OotP?
the same as everyone else's? to help track, understand and make sense of Voldermort's movements and to help fight him... hang on ... is this even about Voldermort...
god! shows how little i know.

Okay, well first of all, I'm not sure if I said this yet, but welcome XDumbledoreX! And also welcome to K.Lupin_werewolf!
Wow, Great questions...

-How did the Marauders get introduced to the Order?
Wow, I never really thought of it. They would have been pretty young, just out of Hogwarts most likely. And the Order won't let Fred and George join because they are to young, even though they are of age and out of school, so they'd be about the same age that the Marauders were when they joined. Sorry, rambling. I guess they would have to have connections to somebody, maybe Dumbledore? Except, I don't see Dumbledore trying to recruit from his students, he'd wanna keep them safe, not send them out to the front lines of the battle. So, I don't know.

-Did the Marauders get special assignments because of their connections to Dumbledore?
Hmm..I'm not really sure what that means, I think like Remus may have gotten a special assignment to spy on the werewolves because he is one, but I don't see them each getting special jobs because they are close to Dumbledore. Because, I'd have to think that everyone involved in the Order would be close to Dumbledore. So, I don't see that giving anybody special ranking.

-Which Marauder helped the Order the most?
I don't really know, that's kinda hard to say because we don't really have much information on what they did for the Order. I guess I'd probably say James, because we know that he and Lily defied Voldemort 3 times, and the only other person to achieve that, at the time, was Neville's parents.

-Did Lily and James have to go into hiding because of something that happened in the Order?
No, I think that the reason that they went into hiding was because of the prophecy, they were in danger already because of the fact that they had defied Voldemort three times, he couldn't have been to happy with them. Then Voldemort decides that their son is the one the prophecy is talking about. That was like the final straw. It's possible that something happened before then with the Order that had them leaning towards going into hidding, but I think that the prophecy was the think that finally did it.

-What was Lily's role in the OotP?
Probably along the same lines as James' role, she defied Voldemort 3 times, stopped him from getting something that he wanted/needed three times.

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-How did the Marauders get introduced to the Order?
To be honest, I think they were introduced to the Order by Voldemort. I think he recognized the Marauders' talents in school and invited them to join the Order. He knew their potential and what they were capable of so why hesitate to ask them to join if they were the best of the best? I'm assuming that, at least, James and Sirius showed some signs of wanting to take down Voldemort in school because they both seem to be rather vocal... Dumbledore could not just ignore them.

On the other hand, there is the possibility that the Marauders found out about the Order on their own and once they knew about it, they were hooked. It seems so like them to follow one of the members to the headquarters and then force their way in!

-Did the Marauders get special assignments because of their connections to Dumbledore?
Hmm... I'm going to say no. Dumbledore would want to protect them, not put them in harms way. I actually think that Dumbledore gave them the simpler missions because they were so young and naive. I can see him as the protective father type. He'd want to make sure that all of them were safe and sound.

-Which Marauder helped the Order the most?
I agree, it is hard. I think that all of them, with the exception of Peter, helped the Order the same amount in their own particular field of strength.

-Did Lily and James have to go into hiding because of something that happened in the Order?
I think that some people are getting it twisted here, why would they want to fulfill the prophecy? No, they did it on accident, thus, in turn, doing the thing they were trying to prevent. And yes, I do think that they went into hiding due to some mission, some event that tipped Voldemort over the edge and sent him on a massive man hunt searching for the Potters.

How did the Marauders get introduced to the Order?
I think they were part of the original Order...If I remember correctly didnt the order form not too long before Harry was born I know LV was around for a long time before but didnt things get worse around the time the Marauders had grown up. If you consider the other Members most were in the marauders generation...or not very much older. I feel that the marauders were the some of the best and because DD would have remembered this... he probably Induced the idea to the marauders and others who were willing to fight the good fight... hence creating the Order

-Did the Marauders get special assignments because of their connections to Dumbledore?
I think everyone would have had some role to play if involved with the Order...as far as a special assingment maybe it depends on what you consider a special assignment.

-Which Marauder helped the Order the most?
I dont think you could take any one persons contributions and measure which ones helped more but If I had to pick one Id think it was James...he did do something important enough to single his family out for the hunting.

-Did Lily and James have to go into hiding because of something that happened in the Order?
I believe so... they defied LV three times and this must of upset him, like I said above they had to do something to single themselves out for the hunting I do not beilieve it was all the prophecy.

-What was Lily's role in the OotP?
Doesnt say and I have no idea..she must have worked side by side with James and I kind of picture her like Molly not as motherly or bossy but deffintly caring... and In HBP Slughorn says she was great at potions so her talent must have come in handy.

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How did the Marauders get introduced to the Order?
~Honestly, I think they may have been recruited. Dumbledore would have known there magical ability and talent. Dumbledore would also suspect that LV would be recruiting for the DE among the Slytherins so it would only make sense that he would recruit the marauders who would be familiar with the opposition.

Did the Marauders get special assignments because of their connection with DD?
~I don't think so...maybe Lupin because of his furry little problem. But as far as the others, it seems highly unlikely that DD would give them special treatment especially not because of the animagus thing because DD didn't even know about it yet.

Which Marauder helped the Order the most?
~Im gonna go with Lupin on this one. The reason I say this is that he is the only one still around and able to keep contributing in a positive way. Also back in the day if he were underground trying to spy he was in prime position to intercept any werewolf communication or plan to help Voldemort.

What was Lily's role?
~I have no clue. I have to think about that some more. Perhaps it had something to do with her being brilliant at potions and having muggle contacts...not sure though.

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How did the Marauders get introduced to the Order?
The order formed late in the fight against Voldemort. By the time the Order was made, Voldemort already had a great army. Didn't Sirius or Lupin say they were outnumbered 20 to 1 last time? That would have given them some time to grow up. They would still be young, but so were a lot of others. I think they were vocal opponents to the public Voldemort (about the muggles). This would have naturally led Dumbledore to include them in his plans.

Did the Marauders get special assignments because of their connection with DD?
I don't think any of them did. I doubt Lupin was sent to the werewolves. Someone would have remembered him from before, especially Greyback. I think they were regular members, albeit talented.

Which Marauder helped the Order the most?
I have to vote for James. He faced Voldemort three times. That would mean he probably faced Voldemort's underlings even more. That much action...something good must have happened.

What was Lily's role?
Lily would have had an active role. She would have gone of missions the same as anyone else. The only difference is that she would have maybe got out of a few because she needed to protect Harry until he was born. After that, they knew they needed to hide so she continued to hide.

Hello, hello, and welcome to Day 3 of Mooop Week ! Today is the drawings/wallpaper contest and you know what that means.. Grab your paper and colored pencils (or Photoshop and a mouse) and get ready, because the theme of today's contest is -- Movie Night! You can draw any scene from any of the four Harry Potter movies that contains at least one Order member. For those of you who are more traditional and prefer the real thing over the movies, your theme is Marauders and Lily, complimenting our current topic. See if you can make it funny Aaaand.. On your mark.. Get set.. GO!

And, of course, we are continuing with our discussion of James, Sirius, Lupin, Peter, and Lily. Here are some more questions for you :
- How did James feel about Lily's induction into the Order?
- How did the Marauders find out about the Order?
- On assignments, did one the Marauders play a leader to the others or did they all work together as a group.
- Did the Marauders and Lily have a special place in Dumbledore's heart?

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four questions is too many for my tiny brain to wrap around. But I'll try.
- How did James feel about Lily's induction into the Order?
I think James probably had the same problems with Lily that Harry is having with Ginny. She is a special person to James, who would be used to get to James. However perhaps LVs refusal to originally kill Lily outright bodes well for Ginny?
- How did the Marauders find out about the Order?
The Maurauders were probably part of the founders. James Lupin and Sirius were all extremely talented, and besides a bit of big-headedness, generally very moral people. I think they might have brought the idea of an anti-Death-Eater league to DD.
- On assignments, did one the Marauders play a leader to the others or did they all work together as a group.
I think DD would have been the leader from the beginning
- Did the Marauders and Lily have a special place in Dumbledore's heart?Yes. Just like Harry does by extension.

How did James feel about Lily's induction into the order? I'm sure he wasn't happy about Lily putting her life in danger everyday but he knows what she is capable of and know that she has a right to fight and that she can handle it so even though he worried for her i'm sure he was proud to have her fighting by his side

Did one marauder play leader to the others? I'm sure that they all went on the mission as a group but naturally the others would end up following James and maybe Sirius just because thats the way ti always had been. I'm sure if Lily went with them she wouldnt be ordered around.

Did the marauders and Lily have a special relationship with Dumbledore? Just like harry i'm sure Dumbledore felt a connection with the marauders or he wouldnt have recruited them for the order but i'm sure that dumbledore feels very close with everyone in the order but i dont think that there is anyone who Dumbledore cares about more than Harry.

oh yeah. i dont know if i've been added to the list but i've been posting for a little while now so if i'm not there i would very much like to be added. thank you!! happy mooop week!

HOW DID JAMES FEEL ABOUT LILY'S INDUCTION INTO THE ORDER?
~I tend to think that James embraced her induction and was very supportive of it. My reason for this is simply that they were older, probably of age which means they were dating/engaged or even married at this point. James would have figured that marriage is a partnership and as in anything they would have tackled the order as a partnership.

DID ONE MARAUDER PLAY LEADER TO THE OTHERS?
~Nah. I agree with bigkisses13 in saying that those three(4) most likely went out on assignment together. They were familiar with each other and each persons magical talents and weakness. By working as a team they could compliment each others strengths and weaknessess. Incidently I see this happening with our trio and perhaps Neville and Ginny and whoever else helps.

I have no idea if Lily and the Marauders had a special relationship with DD. I think that DD values everyone of his Order members and was equally crushed when one of them were hurt or killed.

As I have zero talent for art and drawing I will pass on the challenge today but good luck to all those with the talent.

- How did James feel about Lily's induction into the Order?
Hmm..I'm a little mixed on this one. I think he'd be happy that she wanted to do her part and all, kinda like nevillesgirl said, he'd be looking at it as, their in this together, so if she want's to help, then he was glad that she was brave enough to stand with him. However, I think he was scared at the same time. He would have wanted to keep her safe, not have her out there fighting. I'm picturing something along the lines of Harry and Ginny, she's determined to help him defeat Voldemort, but he would prefer she stayed out of harms way.

- How did the Marauders find out about the Order?
I think that the found out about it on accident, like Dumbledore left one of them alone in his office and they found the pensive or something. Kinda like the way Harry found out about Nevilles parents. And then Dumbledore would have had to explain more, because they would have been pressing about wanting to help.

- On assignments, did one the Marauders play a leader to the others or did they all work together as a group.
I'd think they would have worked as a group. Well, maybe Peter was a little lower them, or didn't help as much, but I think that the rest would have all worked together.

- Did the Marauders and Lily have a special place in Dumbledore's heart?
Oh definitly. I think that that is part of the reason why Dumbledore cares for Harry as much as he does. I think he looked at the Marauders and especially at Lily and James, as his children, so he thinks of Harry almost as his grandson.

- How did James feel about Lily's induction into the Order?
hmm i don't know about this one, i think that James and Lily became part of the order together so it wasn't really James being there first, knowing what its like and then not wanting Lily to join. They joined together and it was her decision. based on what we know about Lily i think James would have the sense not to interefere with her decision. He probably did have the same feelings Harry is having for Ginny right now but that didn't stop him from letting her be in the order (maybe a foreshadowing?) plus weren't they both Gryffindor's? then James should be able to see and respect Lily's natural courage and love to have her in the order

- How did the Marauders find out about the Order?
I think that one of the marauder's probably James or Lupin directly appraoache DUmbledore and asked if there was any way they could join the fight and have more of an impact against Voldemort. Once Dumbledore introduced one member you know they all had to follow so they became part of the order

- On assignments, did one the Marauders play a leader to the others or did they all work together as a group.
They must have worked as a group, that's what the order is all about, unity to overceom the obstacles of Voldemort. I agree with Weasley_Girly_83 in the fact that WOrmtail probably wasn't as helpful but that's just his nature. Plus it's not like 4 order members go around together all the time (unless they're picking up Harry in OotP) many times i bet they flew solo or if temed up it wasn't all of them. Maybe James and Lily, or James and Sirius. But when a group they acted like a group

- Did the Marauders and Lily have a special place in Dumbledore's heart?
Of courwse they had a special place in his heart. They were passionate about the fight, he saw them all grow up, he saw they love they all had for eachother, and in Lily and James he saw love that was pure and ideal. I think He had a special place for James and Lily in particular though. He must have thought of them as his children seeing them grow up like that. They must have had a special place in his heart, especially once James and Lily were murdered. He has a special place for Harry not just because he is the chosen one and i think that means he must have felt something for his parents and the marauders

- How did James feel about Lily's induction into the Order?
- How did the Marauders find out about the Order?
- On assignments, did one the Marauders play a leader to the others or did they all work together as a group.
- Did the Marauders and Lily have a special place in Dumbledore's heart?
-How did the Marauders get introduced to the Order?
-Did the Marauders get special assignments because of their connections to Dumbledore?
-Which Marauder helped the Order the most?
-Did Lily and James have to go into hiding because of something that happened in the Order?
-What was Lily's role in the OotP?

since i havnt posted for a while i will answer all of the questionst hat i missed (the ones i listed)

How did James feel about Lily's induction into the Order?
I think that he would have been mad because he would be protective over her and would not want her to get injured or die.

How did the Marauders find out about the Order?
I think that DD must have told them because he knew that they were talented and could use some help.

On assignments, did one the Marauders play a leader to the others or did they all work together as a group.
I think that James would have been a leader during some of the missions/assignments but most of the time they would hav worked as a team.

Did the Marauders and Lily have a special place in Dumbledore's heart?
I do not think they had a special place in DD's heart i think that he only invited them into the order because they were talented. Nothing other than that

How did the Marauders get introduced to the Order?
As i said earllier my deduction is that they found out from DD because he would have known that they were talented and reliable.

Did the Marauders get special assignments because of their connections to Dumbledore?
i think that they were treated equally and were only sent on special missions when they were perfect for the job such as Lupin and werewolves or animagus things whatever

Which Marauder helped the Order the most?
i'm going to say that Lupin did the most because he is still int he order, more time probably more accomplishments etc., and sirius but he cant do too much because of his azkaban sitchuation

Did Lily and James have to go into hiding because of something that happened in the Order?
simple answer no, the prophecy

What was Lily's role in the OotP?
im going to say she is some what like molly weasley because she probably helped clean and cook and such not. also she probably fought some battles like big ones.

- How did James feel about Lily's induction into the Order?

I think I agree with what most of you have said I think it would have been very simalar to the Harry and Ginny situation,...when I think of Lilly I feel she must be a lot like Ginny I believe she was brave and wouldnt let James tell her to stay behind.

- How did the Marauders find out about the Order?

This question is similar to the question from yesterday about how they were introduced to the Order, so my answer is similar as well...I believe they were part of the original Order..the would have been just old enough to fight the first time and I belive that DD would have gone to them for aid he knew them to be the best of their generation and ask for them to fight...not that he would have had to twist thier arms or any thing.

- On assignments, did one the Marauders play a leader to the others or did they all work together as a group.

I dont know the books portray James and sirius as the leaders, but once they were all grown up and fighting a real battle I think they probably worked as a group at least at first, after time they would have each ventured off into which ever area they were best at.

- Did the Marauders and Lily have a special place in Dumbledore's heart?

I think DD said some where that Professors were not supposed to have favorites but they all did...and he was headmaster and should of been above such things...but he wasnt. I believe they were deffintly his favorites

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Hello everybody! In honor of the drawing day, I guess I'll be the first one to enter something... Haha this is rather embarrassing because it looks like it was drawn by a first grader, but never the less you can find my "drawing" here. Hahaha! Enjoy! It's James and Lily in case you're curious!

P.S. Don't be afraid to post in the Mooop fanfic! You all have really great ideas!

Taylor, it looks like you've drawn it on a computer and that's hard to do. But the important thing - its funny! I applaud you for you effort and bravery

An now some Mooop news for you fellow Mooops:
The memberlist has been updated, and for your convenience, we have added a "Last Update" box in the top right corner. That will tell you when the memberlist has been last updated, so if you don't see your name on the list, you can check to see if we've actually forgot you or if we just have been lazy lately

Okay, I know this is really really short, but I wanted to say that I love your drawing Hilly! I that's totally what I think happened. lol. Okay, sorry for the one-liner, but I already replied to all the questions and don't have a pic to enter...