Sometimes one should use their imagination and draw their own conclusions; but since most people seem reluctant to do so,...
Sirius was their because he virtually invited himself. Remus dropped Grimmauld place for a Order meeting earlier that day, was talking to Sirius about how good Tonks' cooking is and said,"Perhaps we should have you over sometime for dinner."
Sirius replied, "I'm free tonight. I'll drop by and bring some wine. Tell Tonks I'll be their about seven." And Remus being the great guy he is didn't want to tell him no.

Tonks doesn't hate Sirius. She was merely discontented. She wasn't expecting him. She wanted to sit down with her family and have a nice meal, which she had only just begun to cook upon Black's arrival, therefore she was not ready for her guest. Also, she was a bit irked at Remus for not telling her that her cousin was dropping by. I mean how hard would it be to apparate home for an instant, or better yet to write a quick letter and send it by owl.
EDIT: This story will include Sirius Black for the main fact that I love Sirius Black and do not believe that he is gone. For, those that you truly love will never leave you. They shall remain in your thought and in your heart

But he shouldn't be there! Sirius disapeared, remembered? Or are you making it on the assumption that he is found in book seven?

thanks for the compliments mrs.r.j.lupin and k.lupin_werewolf, i might do a fanfic in the future (or tommorow! )

i liked your sketch a lot padfoot08, i just thought that tonks and sirius were friends, and i thought that he dissappeared also. but if he hadnt dissappeared, it would've been very good.

HAHAHAHAHAHA Padfoot..you have a fantastic insight into a wife's reactions...are you married? because, I always tell my husband that before he brings home his friends for dinner, he has to bring me flowers, and ask VERY kindly if the next day he CAN bring someone to dinner.
I mauled him when he did it once. i was awfully tired, the house was a mess, and I just wanted to put on my most comfortable pyijamas and throw myself on the sofa.
You can bet he will NEVER do such a thing without asking...

Anyway I liked all the stories. We have really good writers in SPELL!!

lilyluvr - no problem you deserved the good comments! it was a good idea and i am sure you can come up with more! and please do a fan fic!

Padfoot08 - really liked your one! it was funny because of sirius! good idea. i don't think it matters that sirius is in it, this is for fun, to widen our imaginations and in some cases have a laugh!

hmm, i did do a fanfic, but its not on lupin. that'll be my next one. oh, and padfoot, i just read your edit (mustve missed it before) and i am a total sirius fan too. hes sooo sweet. i shouldve made my username,sirius_lupin_luvr or something.oh well.

Aren't we all Sirius lovers too?? Well I am te he!!

Well done everyone, you have great imaginations. I'd have had a go myself but and there's always a but...I am trying to keep my writing to a full fic at the moment and time is precious!! But go you guys for taking the time!!

And don't you just hate it when hubbies bring a friend home...who do you resent more, the friend or the hubby or both!!!

really? how do you change your username?

uhh, what exactly is a hubby? and what does it mean, "when friends bring hubbies home?"

Sorry..I shouldn't abbreviate, it's almost as bad as netspeak. I mean't husband/s.

I will PM you about the other thing.

No, no. I'm only 16. I know how my mom is though when people just come by unexpected or uninvited. It is pretty funny.

Yep. I think most of us are. I love Sirius. He is just an adorable character. The type of guy you would love to date. Anyway, I'm a big fan of Gary Oldman too, so I have to love Sirius.

erm why is S.P.E.L.L near the bottom!! lol lupin is the best!!
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okay so i didn't know what to put but this thread can't stay at the bottom!

right well i have a question.
if the full moon wasn't lupin's boggart what do you think it would be and why?

try not to say greyback...

i dont think it was greyback anyway, because i dont think lupin really fears him now that he is a werewolf. but anyway, i think that is a very good question. we never really found out in great detail what he was afraid of huh? maybe...no not dementors.....not chocolate.....maybe just fear itself. or...okay, this is a really silly theory and i doubt its true.....but maybe tonks kissing another guy?(dont make fun of me, i know your probably laughing so hard there are tears streaming down your face )

Ooh, good question. My guess is it would be something like Mrs. Weasley's. I'm sure Lupin would hate to see his friends or family (where ever they are) hurt or in danger. Or perhaps he would see an empty bookcase or something. It's hard to say since he's a werewolf. I mean, once you've been bitten by something as terrible as that, is there really anything else to fear?

No, maybe he fears public unacceptance. Course, that's sort of already happened. But you know, those sort of things.

Ooh, good question. My guess is it would be something like Mrs. Weasley's. I'm sure Lupin would hate to see his friends or family (where ever they are) hurt or in danger. Or perhaps he would see an empty bookcase or something. It's hard to say since he's a werewolf. I mean, once you've been bitten by something as terrible as that, is there really anything else to fear?

No, maybe he fears public unacceptance. Course, that's sort of already happened. But you know, those sort of things.

Hmm. Yeah an empty bookcase. That would be one of my fears.I guess he would fear that because he loves books and learning and to see it empty. Well I would cry.

Wasn't it Lupin who said, in the film of PoA anyway, when he was talking to Harry about his Boggart form, that what he feared was fear itself? In that case if Lupin fears the moon because it is the thing that turns him into his werewolf form, shouldn't he also fear himself in that form?

So I'm going to say his boggart would be just that, himself in werewolf form!

thank you everyone for your really good answers, feel free to carry on with this subject if you want but a just wanted to to say what i thought of everyone's... first of all they were all good.
lilyluvr: i don't have tears streaming down my face and i am not laughing! it's a good idea. He might very well see Tonks with someone else because he has never really had anyone, relationship wise, as far as we know. he does not understand why tonks likes loves him so maybe he fears that she will leave because he believes that a werewolf can not be loved. and fearing fear? why not! lupin is wise and he did say that harry was wise to choose fear as his worst fear.

Just the Droobles - Good one. i can see lupin fearing the death of someone close to him, he has already lost sirius and james and dumbledore - the people who were probably the most important to him. so maybe he fears tonks dying or getting hurt.
empty bookcase? would that be because he has a thrist for knowledge? possible!
and yes he could very well fear public unacceptance, why not? it's not a great thing to live through, except or deal with.

mjane95 - bless ya! i would most likely hate an empty bookcase because i love reading.

etphonehome - good one!! yes i think he would fear himself because he can do things in his werewolf form and not remember, maybe he fears a relationship with tonks because he fears that he will hurt her? well i guess we know that from the half blood prince!

If anything else, I believe that if it wasn't the moon itself that Remus feared then it would be himself... or maybe himself hurting his friends. But it's really hard to figure out what it would be that he would actually be afraid of since most people would fear the death of their best friends or family, which a good deal of that (James, Lily and Sirius) has already happened and we never even hear about his family so I can only conclude that they are dead too.

Perhaps I'm interpreting what you're saying incorrectly, but Lupin thought Harry feared being fearful, not that he, Lupin, feared fear itself. Harry fears fear...Lupin already fears the moon. I believe he fears the moon because they are very painful transformations, he doesn't want to hurt his friends, and I think he hates being associated with being a werewolf. And it's something he can't do anything about. That's a very scary feeling. In a way I guess it's like a battle with cancer. You know you have it, and sometimes there's no solution and then you know what is in store. It really is a terrifying thought--perhaps a control issue that people are uncomfortable with.

Maybe another fear would never being loved. I know I said no public acceptance, but he's never going to be fully accepted, but it is natural human tendency to want to be loved. In his case, that may be what he wants most. So perhaps that would be his Mirror if Erised and his boggart as the opposite.

I just read my post again and it does look like I'm saying Lupin feared fear itself...I did ofcourse mean Harry!

Everyone has interpreted my meaning very well. I would have expanded my post, but ...well busy.

I don;t have one for during PoA, but I have good one for now. What about Tonks being bitten by a werewolf that looks like him? That would be the scariest thing for Lupin right now. Just food for thought there, people.

marauderishly yours,

madmarauder

All right, glad you cleared that up for me, Elaine. It does make sense that Lupin could fear himself, but I'd figure it would still be more because he doesn't want to hurt the people around him.

I think you have a good point madmarauder. Maybe Lupin would fear someone else being bitten by a werewolf because he wouldn't want someone else to go through the same anguish that he has to endure. Tonks may be on the top of his list because he seems to care about her. Shortly after that would be Harry and all the other people he cares for...then everyone else in general.

I totally agree. He loves Tonks and naturally she would be the top of his list. And Harry is the only person left to remind him of the Mauraders: James and Sirus. I think that the thought of Peter Pettegrew would raise some hackles.

~PhoenixTears

ooh goody! glad you guys think tonks would be on the top too, i thought i was alone on that one. maybe tonks dying, or pettigrew killing her, that would certainly be one of lupins worst fears.

(or maybe lupin running out of chocolate! lol,jk! )

Lol! I can just imagine a boggart appearing and turning into an empty chocolate bar wrapper!

The thing that would be terrifying to most of us is the loss of a loved. Especially if that loss was at our own hands. So sticking to what I said before, Lupin's boggart would appear as himself as a werewolf but attacking someone close to him, like you have said maybe Tonks.

Don't underestimate Remus' love for Harry either, something that I suspect will come into play in a shocking manner before the end of Book 7. (And yes, it will involve the "D" word, but not in a way that most readers would assume....)

I have to point out also that Remus is the only character who is described as being rather blase when he encounters his boggart for the first time in the books. The author says that he dismisses it almost "lazily," indicating perhaps that he is far more courageous than he admits. Compare that to the reaction of another adult character, Molly Weasley, who becomes hysterical and actually needs Lupin himself to rescue her from her own greatest fear -- and I'll even go so far as to note that he substitutes himself for Harry in order to do this. (Not to mention that this also raises the interesting question of who exactly is JKR's "Remus," since her boggart is the same as Mrs. Weasley's....)

I can't believe I didn't think of that. It true, he was rather blase about it, but I wonder if his...blaseness(I know it's not a word) is more bravado. I only say this because his character always comes across as being so calm collected and in control, yet underneath he could be a quivering wreck of a man.

Interesting question that. Who is JKR's Remus, her husband perhaps or maybe it's her agent!!

Very Funny.
I agree that a big fear of Lupin's would be something aweful happening to Tonks. Especially at his own hands. That would be just too unbearable for him, I think.
This thread was almost near the bottom.

You know, I've always felt that Lupin's fear of the moon was a symbolic fear. What he really fears is what the full moon turns him into, what it might make him do when he loses his humanity.

I agree with the others that the worst thing would be that he would awaken out of his werewolf state to find that he had bitten a loved one, or a child.

No one knows what the child of a werewolf would be. The lycanthropy gene is a mutation -- would that make him infertile? If he had children, would they have the mutation also, or have something akin to what Bill Weasly has, "some contamination"? That would horrify him, too.

wooo i'm so happy my question is still going! i can't stay to long so i just want to say thank you everyone for what you have all said and feel free to carry on with the topic and i still strongly believe that his worst fear (after the full moon) would be hurting someone he cares about and well i can see alot of you agree! i will be back! and woooo S.P.E.L.L is NOT near the bottom!!

Hi all! i have news from our president, her computer is broken and it probably won't be fixed for a few weeks. She wanted me to say "hi" to ya'll. I'm gonna try and think of some more questions to keep us going for awhile, so I will be back on later!

Hey everyone! Just wanted to let you know that Helen says 'Hi" to everyone but her computer broke and it might not be fixed for a couple of weeks! To keep us going I thought of a few questions that should keep us occupied for a little while! So enjoy!

1) What do you think Remus was doing before Dumbledore offered him the job at Hogwarts? There's a 13 year span of time where we have no idea what he was up to!

2) How do you think Remus found out about the death of the Potter's and Sirius being arrested? And do you think Sirius saw him on the night of the murder, before going to find Peter?

3) This one is for fun, but who do you think would win in a duel between Remus and Sirius? (Not that they would ever duel, but for speculation purposes).

Okay guys, hope you enjoy!

Trina

ooooh,new questions, goody! okay,first one. i think he was probably trying to get through life for the first couple of years, he was a werewolf and had to get used to being one,but then i think he joined the order,because dd had to know him before,he couldnt just ask a stranger.oh wait-scratch that thought,remus went to school at hogwarts! oh hahahahaha!
next question. i just think he found out because sirius told him, obviously james was his bf so he would find out, and im not sure if sirius saw him before,maybe they were all planning something so sirius went to find peter to tell him,and thats when it happened.
ok,next.reeemmmmmuuuusssss would definetly win,he is waaaaaayyy smarter (no offense to any of you sirius fans,i am one too,so dont feel offended) and knows more jinxes.

1)
What do you think Remus was doing before Dumbledore offered him the job at Hogwarts? There's a 13 year span of time where we have no idea what he was up to!
Hiding prehaps for the wizarding community fears werewolfs so he turn is afraid of them. 13 is unlucky so maybe he had 13 unlucky years.

2)
How do you think Remus found out about the death of the Potter's and Sirius being arrested? And do you think Sirius saw him on the night of the murder, before going to find Peter?
In the papers,if he was in hiding. I don't think Sirius saw him on that night but he could have. Because that night James/ Prongs murdered. Sirius/ padfoot was wrongly accused of his murder. Peter/ Wormail actually did it. Maybe Moony/ Lupin had a small envolement on that night.
3)
This one is for fun, but who do you think would win in a duel between Remus and Sirius? (Not that they would ever duel, but for speculation purposes).
I'd say it was a tie, because it seems to be evenly matched. They both made it as Maruders.

1) What do you think Remus was doing before Dumbledore offered him the job at Hogwarts? There's a 13 year span of time where we have no idea what he was up to!
Tough question. I think Remus has been hiding as much as he can, maybe he has had low payed jobs because he is not well off at all. I think maybe he'd been living in flat, nothing fancy because he doesn't earn much.

2) How do you think Remus found out about the death of the Potter's and Sirius being arrested? And do you think Sirius saw him on the night of the murder, before going to find Peter?
I think Remus found out by the papers and never saw Sirius on the night of the murder.

3) This one is for fun, but who do you think would win in a duel between Remus and Sirius? (Not that they would ever duel, but for speculation purposes).
If the two were dueling I think Remus would win. I think this because Remus is shown to have done better at school then Sirius and Sirius has been in prison for 13 years with no magic wand. Remus in the 3rd book on the train (at the bottom of page 65) 'illuminated by the shivering flames in Lupin's hand,' Lupin has fire in his hand which suggest he is more powerful then meets the eye. So I think Remus would win because he seems more powerful and academically higher then Sirius.

Okay, I'm back! Yay! New questions...

1) What do you think Remus was doing before Dumbledore offered him the job at Hogwarts? There's a 13 year span of time where we have no idea what he was up to!

Erm... I really don't know. I always hope that other people will think of the answers for me. I guess he was probably just going around being poor, trying to get a job but nobody would hire him because of his furry little problem... I think Seriouslysirius has got it right, he had an unlucky 13 years.

2) How do you think Remus found out about the death of the Potter's and Sirius being arrested? And do you think Sirius saw him on the night of the murder, before going to find Peter?

Hmm... never actually thought about that. I don't think he actually saw Sirius that night, but who knows? Maybe they were together and they got a message from Dumbledore or someone... and Sirius left to find Peter, and Remus didn't get a chance to find out what was actually going on. I'm not sure though. But I do think that he found out from Dumbledore or someone else, rather than in the newspaper or something... I don't even think it was in the paper straight away, and that's not the kind of thing you can keep from someone, is it?

3) This one is for fun, but who do you think would win in a duel between Remus and Sirius? (Not that they would ever duel, but for speculation purposes).

I don't know really. I would say Sirius but I don't know why really. I mean, Remus does seem more magically able. But in a duel? I think Remus would likely go easy on someone, especially if that someone was his best friend. Hmm... no, I'm going to say Sirius. Just to be different. They're never actually going to have a duel anyway, so...

1) What do you think Remus was doing before Dumbledore offered him the job at Hogwarts? There's a 13 year span of time where we have no idea what he was up to!
I think that he would have been going from job to job, earning very little and trying to do the best he can in his situation. I think that he would be constently trying to get a job. Once his boss finds out that he's a werewolf then i can see him quitting before he is sacked (as he did with Hogwarts) and then continuosly (can't spell) looking for jobs.

2) How do you think Remus found out about the death of the Potter's and Sirius being arrested? And do you think Sirius saw him on the night of the murder, before going to find Peter?
I really think that is would have been the paper or maybe once Dumbledore had found out. Maybe when Dumbledore found out maybe he contacted Lupin so he wouldn't have to pick up the paper the next day to find out that two of his best friends were dead.

3) This one is for fun, but who do you think would win in a duel between Remus and Sirius? (Not that they would ever duel, but for speculation purposes).
Well i agree with Sabrina_Rose_Snape. I do think Remus would win because he is more magically able and more knowledgable. And yes true no magic wand for 13 years... i agree that that would have probably put a hold on Sirius' magic abilities. Also it is true that Lupin has far more power that met's the eye, like Sabrina_Rose_Snape said about page 65 of the PoA, don't worry i am not going to repeat the whole thing again! even though it's great! also i think remus would be skilled in the spell's he would use in the duel and sirius would be comical and try and have a laugh. But like Golden Phoenix i think that thw two friends would never really be it that situation. well i hope...

I don't really think Remus had a specific job persay, but I'd have to say that I believe the did a number of on-again off-again jobs...





Since only Peter knew where the Potters were staying, I'd have to say that Remus didn't find out until a few days later when it hit the news, unlike Sirius who found out pretty quickly. As for Sirius being arrested, I would believe that everyone knew about that either that day or the next morning. But I do not believe that Sirius would've visited Remus since Sirius would've been able to convince Remus that he was innocent right then rather than waiting about 13 years... and Sirius was too busy getting revenge on Peter.





I don't know if this is from the books or if I'm just messing it up with the fanfics I read, but I thought I read something about Sirius being the top of all of his classes... therefore I would have to go with Sirius.

How do you know that it was only Peter who knew where they were staying? I think the others did know but they were unable to tell anybody of the Potter's whereabouts, but Peter could tell anyone he wanted, right? So, I think the others must have known but they just couldn't say anything to anyone else. Otherwise, how would Sirius know, and Remus not? Okay, maybe I'm missing something somewhere... I just managed to confuse myself as well as probably confusing everyone else.

In OotP Mad Eye showed Harry a picture of the Order of the Phoenix in the time of Voldemorts last reign of terror and Lupin was in the picture. Since JKR never said that because Voldemort was all but destroyed that the Order stopped working altogether, isn't it possible that Lupin was still working for them in some way?



So how does the secret keeper thing work again? Only the person that is the secret keeper call divulge the information to others. So what if all the marauders knew the whereabouts of the Potters, but as secret keeper, Peter was the only one who could tell anyone where they were. So I think what I'm saying is Lupin could have been with Sirius before the events at Godrics Hollow and once he (Sirius) realised that Peter was a traitor, went after him on his motorbike followed in hot persuit by Lupin...ofcourse being Hallowe'en it could have been a full moon...hmmm I might actually look up the records for that year.



I actually think that Sirius would win. I think Remus has been learning to control his temper for years, where as Sirius has been chaged up for 13 years and put in that situation would completely go beserk making him a very dangerous opponent for Lupin.

I've just looked up the phases of the moon for 1981, and the nearest full moon was 13th October that year. The last time there was a full moon on 31st October was in 1974!

Lupin plays a big part in book 7 i hear. I wonder what that is but i was thinking that maybe he's related to Harry in some way. I know it seems farfetch but any things possible and Lupin seemed to be really wise and powerful.
But maybe Lupin was related to James but they didn't tell any one.
It seems weired and there's not alot of evidence and James and Lupin seem the complete contrast. I would be nice though to know that Harry would have a living realative.

Hello everyone! My name is baz and I love Lupin...er...obviously.

I hope Lupin plays a big part...I think he's been glazed over a little for the last 3 books. I also think that the Lupin/Tonks thing will, somehow, be a big thing. (The whole love thing the series has got going). I agree that lupin is very powerful.

I think that lupin was just trying to make a megre living for the 13 years we don't see him. I reckon he found out lily and james' death and sirius's arrest by either the order or the daily prophet.

As for the duel betwen moony and padfoot? both have an equal chance. though i think that sirius would fight a little more dirty. it seems his nature. (well, now his nature's dead, but, even though i have a marginal amount of liking for him, lets' not go there).

woooooooooo! lupin is so fantastic and he will have to have a big part in the next book, no wait... he has to play a big part!! he is so great!! and yeah, i sort of believe that there maybe a little more to tonks and lupin's relationship, don't ask me what excatly but i just feel that way and i know i have said that lupin has to play a big part because he is the best character ever but let's face it, it's true, J.K said so herself! roll on book 7! i can't wait! i really want to know what he's big part is and lily's back story and well i wonder... as long as he doesn't die i'll be fine!

*gasp* You...you...you said the..."d" word! I'm telling! Just kidding. But seriously. No "d" word in this thread unless talking about how the old cow will be squashed....

I really think that in a duel with Sirius and Remus, they'll be pretty evenly matched. Like baz said, I think that Sirius would fight a little more dirty while Remus would fight more fair. That meaning that Sirius probably knows more "dirty" spells like "levicorpus" and "sectemsempra". Not necessarily those spells, just spells like them. Meanwhile, Remus would probably have more powerful and "fair" spells like ones Hermione would be likely to know --stuff in the Hogwarts curriculum. Plus, Remus is from a family that prizes dark wisards, so he probably know some "bad" spells....

~PhoenixTears

Oh, I can totally see Lupin being more honorable in a duel that Sirius. I have a picture in my head now of Sirius pointing somewhere behind Remus, screaming, "Moony! Look out!" And then when Lupin turns around, Sirius hits him with a jelly-legs curse or something. I think that Sirius would be more of a threat, actually, given his gruffness and his stint in prison. Takes something out of a person. I think Lupin and Sirius are evenly matched, as far as skill-but sometimes I think that the passion Sirius would have in a duel would probably outweigh honor. Then again, look what happened at the MoM. They were all fighting, and Sirius' provoking and jovial attitude during the battle landed him behind the veil. Perhaps it makes him sloppier instead of more than a threat.

*sharp intake of breath* (can't spell the sound...a sort of breathing in sharply ha!)



But sometimes I like sloppy seconds Janet!!

No, but seriously, I can see where your coming from. He did seem rather reckless in lots of areas and it caused problems. Like when he went to the station as snuffles in OotP. I imagine that Remus would have to win in the end to stop Sirius becoming out of control and causing harm to others. After all that's why DD made him a prefect, to try to control Sirius and James behaviour...not that it worked or he tried!!!

In OotP, Sirius kinda annoyed me. 'Hey, let's go to the station against DD's orders and completely disregard the fact that I could be putting loads of people including myself in danger!'

Rest: ...

But, siriusly (he he), he was a little bit of a moron sometimes.

I'm getting sick of talking about Black. THIS IS A LUPIN THREAD!

Oh, don't worry, my friend. Me too! I was just trying to think it through from all angles. I'd certainly not want to come up against either of them in a fight, that's for sure. And thanks for the word: Reckless. Yeah. That's the one I was trying to think of when I wrote sloppier. Gah. Brain, come home!

ya, Sirius is very reckless, but i was never really annoyed witth him. i quess i would be a little restless too if i ust spent 13 years in jail and then be locked up in a horrible old house for god knows how long.

The "d" word was said!!! *mouth hangs open in shock* I need a moment to get over it!!! Jk!

Yeah, I was never annoyed with him either. I understand why he did it, like hp_book_reader said, if I spent 13 years in Azkaban I would want to leave too. It is also just who he was, he liked adventure and to take risks so we all can't really have expected him to just stay cooped up in Grimmauld Place. That just wasn't him and even if he did get himself into a spot of trouble, at least he had a few moments of happiness and freedom!

Remus on the other hand, yeah, I would see him fighting a lot more fairly because he is very by the rules. I don't think Remus wasn't just as good as Sirius, he just his power for good instead of evil.

Here is an interesting short article about book 7. They say there have been 4 deaths so far. I hope that that is just a rumor.

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But, siriusly (he he), he was a little bit of a moron sometimes.
I'm getting sick of talking about Black. THIS IS A LUPIN THREAD!

baz~ True this is a Lupin thread, but Sirius was a fellow Maurader and close friend to Remus, and I don't think he would be very happy that you were talking about his dearest friend in such a manner. Lord knows I am not. Sirius Black was just a rebel. That doesn't mean he was ignorant. He did crazy stuff, yes, but he most certainly was not a moron. Also, he went to the Ministrey because he knew Harry would be in trouble. He loved Harry as a son, and I am sure he would have protected Harry no matter what the consequence. It was a rash decision, yes, but if a loved one of yours was in major trouble wouldn't you also make hasty decisions? Plus it was not entirely his falt. Kreacher wasn't a huge help either. *sighs and tries to calm down*

Gasp! Perfect timing for SPELL to pop up in my life again, for I have found myself constantly searching for a Lupin fanfiction or Lupin fanart, it is driving me bonkers. It has possibly been a year or two since my last visit. So, please, update me on the happenings in Lupinland!