baz
Nov 23 2006, 11:35 PM
Sorry Padfoot08, it's just I never really liked Sirius after what I saw him do to poor Sev in OotP. Maybe it's a little anger toward that. And I wasn't saying he was a moron, I was saying he was a bit of a moron in OoTP. I think I must be one of the very few people here who adore Lupin but also really REALLY likes Snape and doesn't really like Sirius.
Hey, call me nuts.
Don't blame Kreacher. It's not his fault he's a product of what wizards have been doing to half-breeds or whatever you call 'em. Even though he was a constant reminder to Sirius about his not-so-happy-past, I believe he should've been kinder to Kreacher. What if Sirius didn't like Lupin, and Lupin was a constant reminder to Sirius about his not-so-happy-past, and Sirius kept calling him 'werewolf' and told him to go to the corner and howl whenever he was in the room?
Extremely hypothetical I know, but that's the only way I can explain it.
And you can't say that it's different because Lupin's nice and Kreacher's not, because Kreacher's bad mood is, again, because of all the descrimination he's recieved and being under the rule of Sirius's psycho mum.
Poor guy, though, I must say.
Anyone under her rule would surely crack. And I also think that Sirius should have kept that in mind when he threw him 'bodily from the room'.
Do you understand what I'm saying? I don't want to upset anyone, but that's how I feel.
Padfoot08
Nov 24 2006, 04:37 AM
baz~ Hey. I do understand you point about not liking Sirius because what he did to dear Severus. I also am a huge fan of Severus! Also, I'm not upset, we all have a right to our own opinions.
No secret that Black and Snape never got along. Sirius would have killed Severus that night if it weren't for James. That is something you don't get over. For the life at me right now, I can not think of any reason, other than the fact that Snape is a half-blood, that Black dislikes him so. Why did he pick on Severus and encourage the other Mauraders to do so also? What did Severus do to deserve that? Anyone have that answer, since I'm going through a moment of stupidity? *shrug* I personally really like Sirius. There is just something about his rebel and intense nature that captivates me. I don't know. I weigh both characters individually. When I read Sirius's dialogue when he's talking to Harry, I don't think, "Severus doesn't like him, so I won't either." We each have to draw our own conclusions about the charcters we like and dislike. Each person has their positive and negative qualities. We shouldn't be too harsh on either party. Especially since we don't even know their whole life story yet. But yea, I like Severus and Sirius equally. Oh, and Lupin also.

I just can't choose a favorite.
Sorry, I know it sounds like incoherent babble, and very contradictory to each other, but I hope you kind of grasp my meaning. Anyway, back to Lupin....
madmarauder123
Nov 24 2006, 04:44 AM
Imagine Harry and Draco. Now imagine Ron doing what Sirius did (although hes not THAT idiotic) and Harry saving him like James. they would hate each other, no? And honestly, don't be so naive. You act like Snape did nothing to provoke him. Granted, the marauders probably attacked him unprovoked, but I'm sure he deserved the brunt of the pranks they threw at him.
but back to Lupin. the d-word! Mommy!!!!!

Just kidding. Siriusly, (man, I wonder how much the marauders had to put up with THAT one.

) heres a question: will Lupin ake over the Order? He could have a second in command for when his "furry little problem" occurs. anyone agree?disagree?
marauderishly yours,
madmarauder
Golden Phoenix
Nov 24 2006, 07:17 AM
QUOTE(madmarauder123 @ Nov 24 2006, 04:44 AM) [snapback]265193[/snapback]
Heres a question: Will Lupin take over the Order? He could have a second in command for when his "furry little problem" occurs. Anyone agree?Disagree?
Hmm... I agree that it could be possible. Although I think it is almost definitely going to be McGonagall. But yes, Remus does seem like he would do as good a job as McGonagall could. *Tries to think who else could take over the running of the order* Erm... Unless it's someone like Harry (as 12 Grimmauld Place belongs to him, and provided he doesn't go back to school or search for horcruxes, which I think is a bit unlikely) I think McGonagall and Lupin are really the two main possibilities. Or, I remember reading that it might be Arthur Weasley. So, who knows really. I think I would like it best if it was Lupin, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it will be him.
lilyluvr
Nov 24 2006, 02:56 PM
humdy hum hum, i do think he could take over the order. very easily, but he might not want to because of his "furry little problem" (te he). but he so can! i can see it now, him and tonks,married of course, fighting side by side, the best leaders the wizarding world has ever seen...
MyBroomstickIsBetterThanYours
Nov 24 2006, 04:45 PM
Oh man!! I have not been here a long while.

School's been wickedly busy.
I think that Lupin could very well take over the order. I mean... why not? Other than certain other people possibly taking up the position (McGonagall... that's about the only ledgible person I can think of right now.) And... he'd be great at it.
Golden Phoenix
Nov 24 2006, 08:57 PM
QUOTE(MyBroomstickIsBetterThanYours @ Nov 24 2006, 04:45 PM) [snapback]265356[/snapback]
Oh man!! I have not been here a long while.

School's been wickedly busy.
I think that Lupin could very well take over the order. I mean... why not? Other than certain other people possibly taking up the position (McGonagall... that's about the only ledgible person I can think of right now.) And... he'd be great at it.
Exactly what I was thinking. I have been trying to think of any other people who might be able to take over the order... It is quite difficult. I think it will amost definitely be either McGonagall or Lupin but JKR has that way of changing things so it turns out as the person you least expect. Like Fred and George or Moody. But SPELL isn't really the right place to be posting that. But I do think that it will turn out that it isn't Lupin (or McGonagall) but someone totally different. Those two are just too likely, if you know what I mean. Also, Lupin seems like the kind of person who would be out fighting the Death Eaters and all that stuff so maybe he wouldn't actually want to do it. Maybe...
HP_RULES!
Nov 24 2006, 09:05 PM
I know what you mean about school, I have been swamped!! I am very grateful that Thanksgiving got me a few days off of school!!!
Anyways, as perfect as Lupin is I don't see him taking over the Order. As of this point in time Lupin is the only werewolf that the Order has on their side so they need him to stay underground and continue to try and obtain more support. Trying to gain the support of the werewolf community takes up so much of his time I couldn't see him running the Order as well, it would be too much strain and it would jeopardize his life. He is with the other werewolves pretending that he has to contact with the wizarding world and being in charge of the Order requires a lot of communication with the other Order members that he can't afford to have. I don't think it is a matter of whether or not he is capable of the job, it is a matter of the fact that he has too much to do. Even if he didn't, I don't think he would take the job. He has a lot on his plate and I don't think he needs any more. As for me, I think Arthur Weasley would do a good job.
K.Lupin_werewolf
Nov 25 2006, 05:34 PM
lol! yes school!! so much work, so much i can't see my floor.
i don't know if i can see Lupin running the Order.
on one hand i can see it because he is an extremly powerful, wise, and caring. it seems possible, and it's possible that he could have a second in command for on the full moon. he is knowledgeable in the dark arts field so that would help loads!
but on the other hand he is needed to work under the ground to keep an eye on greyback and it would probably be to dangerous. and yeah it's true he has loads to do.
oh, i have i question...i'm not trying to stop this one from carrying on but i just need to know because it has been bugging me... would greyback have seen lupin on the night of dumbeldore's death, when every was fighting in the tower??
Golden Phoenix
Nov 25 2006, 05:54 PM
QUOTE(K.Lupin_werewolf @ Nov 25 2006, 05:34 PM) [snapback]266230[/snapback]
oh, i have i question...i'm not trying to stop this one from carrying on but i just need to know because it has been bugging me... would greyback have seen lupin on the night of dumbeldore's death, when every was fighting in the tower??
Hmm... I don't think they were all in the same place, were they? I was under the impression that evryone was running around all over the school. But Harry, Dumbledore, Draco and some of the Death Eaters, and then Snape were in the tower. But I think it is possible that they would have seen each other, although, as it was probably dark they might not have recognised who the other was. Does Greyback actually know what Lupin looks like now? Because he was quite young when Greyback bit him... would he still recognise him now? And vice versa I suppose, although I think it is likely that Remus knows what Greyback looks like...
HP_RULES!
Nov 25 2006, 05:55 PM
Oh yeah, I guess I never thought about that. I bet that he did see Lupin, but I don't know whether or not that matters. Greyback would have to have known to some extent that Lupin was working for Dumbledore given his job was to get people on the side of the Order. I don't think he would attack Lupin or anything, his job is to get the wereolves on Voldemort's side, not to attack Order members. But then again, we are dealing with Voldemort so you never know.
I guess it all depends on a few things, like how many werewolves are down there and if Lupin talks to Greyback. I doubt that Greyback recognized him during the fight or while they were underground. I am sure that Lupin would make an effort to avoid him given that he knows that is one werewolf who will never come over to the good side. I just always thought that to some exent he must know that he is working for the Order, someone would have to be doing that and I am sure Greyback is well aware that DD wouldn't leave the werewolves to Voldemort. I don't know though, that is definitely something to think about.
Oh, and I don't think that he knows that he bit Lupin. He was so young at the time and he has bitten so many people I don't think he has recognized him.
ahorsofadifcolor
Nov 25 2006, 06:10 PM
Hello All! I have word from our president! Helen's computer is still broken and she's not sure when it will be fixed. She said to tell you all "Hello" though and I promised I would keep an eye on things in her absence. Seems like we've got a good discussion going right now!
Just a quick Hello to all new SPELL members! It's good to have you here!
As for Lupin taking over the Order, I think it
could happen (there's actually a very good fanfic out there where it does happen) but I don't think it
will happen. I'm not even sure if they will have anyone taking over. They may all more or less work together instead of reporting to one person. And as for Greyback, I think the he would have seen Lupin that night. I always had it in my head that Lupin wasn't with the werewolves anymore because he was there that night and that would have blown his cover. So I don't think he's going back underground in book 7. Just my thoughts
K.Lupin_werewolf
Nov 25 2006, 06:32 PM
thanks so far guys! it's just it is possible i guess that greyback may have seen him at some point during that night but the question is if he actually saw him and realised that this person had been in his underground lair for some time. true the fight was all over the place but as it was all over the place there is still a chance (i think) that the two may have seen each other. i guess we will have to wait and see in the next book. and to be quite honest i have also had the feeling that the two might have seen each other, even if greyback had not seen lupin it might have been that lupin saw greyback and might not want to risk it, going back to the underground.
thanks again everyone, feel freeto carry on and don't forget the other question; do you think that lupin will take over the order? i am only bringing this question up again because i don't want people to think that i have tried to take that question over... i get guilty easily lol
hp_book_reader
Nov 25 2006, 11:07 PM
i don't think so, i mean lupin never seemed like the type of guy who would want to lead the order. Personally i think that Moody will take it over, because he is very experianced (being an Aruor) and also he was close to Dumbledore (close enough that Dumbledore asked him to teach at hogwarts anyway ) and he may know what Dumbledore wanted to do. as for grayback seeing lupin i never thought about it before. i quess it could have happened, but it was very crazy in there so maybe greyback didn't see him.
baz
Nov 26 2006, 02:39 AM
Before I start, all Americans on this thread should be thanking their lucky stars they have a Thanksgiving holiiday...it's exam week for me here and summer's heating up nicely (level 4 water restictions too YAY...maths test...algebra...can't do algebra...ARGH!)
Back to Lupin...
Sorry it this theory has already been posed and sunk (the joys of being a newbie) but what if Lupin disguises himeslf somehow? Probanly not with Polyjiuce, that would be just annoying, but with a wand? Little thinks like changing his hair colour or his complexion?
Even if he doesn't I agree that he would try to stay away from Greyback. It's not like Lupin's going to jump infront of him, arms waving, and yelling "I am SO on your side!" And I don't think he's going to take over the order. he's be really good at it, bit I also agree with the workload issue. he can't be bloody spying amongst some psycho and resentful werewolves on Greyback's side AND lead the oder too. it's like what he said at the Weasleys' to harry when he said he hadn't been able to write. too much of a 'give-away'.
Greyback might recognise him from past order duels if he desn't disguse himself but I doubt that he'd remember Lupin from their little encounter with each other when Lupin was just a bub. *poor baby lupin!*
HP_RULES!
Nov 26 2006, 05:14 PM
Sorry baz!! Hope the water restrictions go down and good luck on your exams!!
I don't think that Lupin does disguise himself, and I kind of doubt that he can risk going back underground now. Ok, I don't think that Greyback recognizes him from when he was a small child. First off to Greyback he probably wasn't worth remembering, he only bit Lupin to gain revenge on his dad so I am sure all he was concerned with at the time was revenge. Then of course there is always the fact that I am sure that he can't remember acually biting him because he was in his werewolf state. Lupin thought that he had no control over his actions, which means that he had never really met him before. Of course he wouldn't recognize him because he had turned into a werewolf, but he had heard of Greyback attacking little kids and he wasn't too pleased so he couldn't have been coming around for dinner every once in a while (I hope you guys understand what I am saying because I know it is a bit confusing). Greyback probably went to the Lupin's house and positioned himself so somehow he would get Remus, though I still don't see how he did it.
About the night of the battle in OotP, I don't know if he actually saw Remus, but just in case I don't think that he can risk going back underground. The reason I don't think he disguises himself is that he is trying to pretend that he has no contact with wizards anymore and so he can't very well use him wand, I don't think anyway. Greyback had never seen Remus before as far he probably knew so as long as Remus kept a low profile and didn't around yelling "I am in the Order of the Pheonix, come join me!" he was all right. Sorry if I am just babbling now and it makes no sense so I will stop.
K.Lupin_werewolf
Nov 26 2006, 05:51 PM
lol HP_RULES! bless you!! i understood every word!
i don't think greyback remembers Lupin from when he was little but does anyone think that there is a chance that Greyback remembers the name Lupin?? i mean if Greyback wanted revenge on Lupin's dad then i am sure that Greyback would have known the name of the person he wanted revenge on... do you get what i mean?
underground i am sure that Lupin used i different name but i don't think he would have used a disguise... he woldn't need to really, i mean he fits in with the crowd doesn't he? pale, ill...
but i still think there is a chance that Greyback and Lupin may have seen each other on the night of the battle... even if it was a glance... it might be that Lupin doesn't want to risk it... i know i have said this all before... sorry!!
Seriouslysirius
Nov 26 2006, 05:56 PM
Hi everyone.
I've come to a conclusion on Lupin and i think he and Tonks, will last.
I thought at first that the coupling was a bit of an age gape but know i feel that they'll last.
And yeah Lupin and Greyback must have had a glance at each other.
So Lupin could be in trouble and they might confront each other.
hp_book_reader
Nov 26 2006, 06:02 PM
oh god that sucks, baz! but about lupin, i agree with those that say he can't go back underground anymore. but if he can't do that then whata do you think that Lupin is going to do?
K.Lupin_werewolf
Nov 26 2006, 06:04 PM
and yes tonks and lupin will last!! they have to!!! for lupin's sake!!
okay so if he can't go underground then maybe he WILL take over the order because he won't have that job getting in his way...
Black Eyed Pea
Nov 26 2006, 06:37 PM
Well HP_RULES, I don't think it was a mistake that Lupin was bitten in my opinion.Remember what Lupin said in Half Blood Prince-that Greyback bites people on purpose. Think about it![color=#003300]
Is anyone even on? I feel like I'm talikng to myself!

This is boring! Is anyone on? I didn't join this discussion 4 nothing!Someone please give some recognition that I'm not the only one on!
lilyluvr
Nov 26 2006, 06:48 PM
whoa, baz, where are you from? and thanksgiving holiday is turning out to be pretty boring for me. (personally,i cant wait to go back to school)
hmmm.. i wonder if lupin ever bit someone? on accident or on purpose?
i think he is totally able to take over the order, if mcgonagall would let him of course.
and black eyed pea, i'm on! (hey, do you like the band black eyed peas? i do)
stag
Nov 26 2006, 06:57 PM
That's a good question, lilyluvr. He might have bitten someone after all these years of full moons. He even came very close to biting the trio in the third book. Maybe that'll come into the book sometime?
Yeah, thanksgiving's been boring for me, too.
Golden Phoenix
Nov 26 2006, 07:06 PM
QUOTE
hmmm.. i wonder if lupin ever bit someone? on accident or on purpose?
Wow, I've never really thought about that. I suppose there are many times when he might have done that. Probably not in his school years because he was taken down to the shrieking shack every full moon night, but maybe after he left school because we really have no idea what he did. I mean, he could have chained himself up or something when he knew there was going to be a full moon but it's more likely that he was just loose all night, in which case it is very likely that he bit somebody once in a while. I'm not sure though... who would know? Does a werewolf even remember when he's bitten someone?
HP_RULES!
Nov 26 2006, 07:29 PM
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hmmm.. i wonder if lupin ever bit someone? on accident or on purpose?
I definitely don't think he ever bit anyone on purpose, but he may have on accident. I don't know if we would even find out if he did though, whoever was bit wouldn't recognize him because Remus would be a werewolf, and Remus wouldn't remember I think. I am not really sure because the point of the Wolfsbane potion was so that he kept him mind when he transformed, but I am pretty sure he remembered his time with the marauders. Yeah, I am pretty sure that he can remember because he said the other marauders made him being a werewolf, their advenutres together, some of the best times of his life. Then again, he said being with his friends helped him keep his mind so maybe he could only remember some things. I really don't know. He said that they had some close calls though so he has to remember some things, but I am pretty sure he hasn't bit anyone. At the very least he would wake up with blood on himself and realize what he had done. I really don't think he has bit anyone though, he is too careful for that (sorry for the contradictory ramblings

).
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Well HP_RULES, I don't think it was a mistake that Lupin was bitten in my opinion.Remember what Lupin said in Half Blood Prince-that Greyback bites people on purpose. Think about it!
Sorry if I was a bit confusing, I wasn't trying to say that he wasn't bit on purpose. Of course he attacked on purpose, I was just saying Greyback bit him because of something his dad did so he wouldn't be inclined to remember Remus, he would probably remember his dad though.
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i don't think greyback remembers Lupin from when he was little but does anyone think that there is a chance that Greyback remembers the name Lupin??
Brillant!!!!

I am sure that he does remember the last name, and thanks for understanding what I was talking about. I bet he did use a different name, good point!!
K.Lupin_werewolf
Nov 26 2006, 07:30 PM
no problem HP_RULES! i really did understand you!! and thanks! and i really belive that Greyback would know the name Lupin!! as i have said already lol if greyback wanted revenge on Lupin's dad then i am sure he would have known the name!! thanks again HP_RULES!
i have a feeling that Lupin has bit someone. Maybe that's why he fears a relationship with Tonks... maybe he got close to someone but hurt them in his werewolf form. i think it is possible as there is a large year span in which we don't know what Lupin has done. I do think it is possible as he probably would have been to poor to get hold of Wolfsbane potions.
Lord Jak
Nov 26 2006, 07:40 PM
Sorry I haven't been on since forever ago

My cousin got me addicted to an anime called
Saiyuki at out Thanksgiving Family thing and I haven't been able to stop watching it. But speaking of Thanksgiving, there were
over 100 people at my family's Thanksgiving feast! I never wanna see that many family members at once again!!!
QUOTE(lilyluvr @ Nov 26 2006, 01:48 PM) [snapback]267798[/snapback]
hmmm.. i wonder if lupin ever bit someone? on accident or on purpose?
There is a low chance that Remus may have bitten someone, but if he did or ever does he wouldn't be able to remember it... unless he woke up covered in blood, then he would think he killed something, hopeing that whatever he killed was just an animal and not some innocent child. But once Remus found out he bit/killed someone, he would be regretful (even if it was an evil person - like Peter) and probally kill himself...
I know, I have morbid thoughts about this...
K.Lupin_werewolf
Nov 26 2006, 07:46 PM
ahhhh!! Lupin dy*** no way!!

noooooooooooooooooo!! it can't happen1 but yes true, i guess he wouldn't even know if had bitten someone! that would probly be for the best but what if he woke with someone next to him dead or bleeding. it could be that whoever lupin might attacked (if he has attacked) have put up a fight, used spell to defends themselves but wether lupin would know if he had bitten anyone or not would depend on where he was when he transformed...
lilyluvr
Nov 26 2006, 09:01 PM
oooh, good theories you guys.
as for me, i think maybe he did bite someone, by accident of course, and thats a secret about him hes not letting on.
time for one of my famous far fetched theories! what if lupin bit tonks?that would explain why she was always tired after sirius died, because maybe soon after, on one of lupin's midnight trips, tonks was there and he accidently bit her!
what do you guys think?
K.Lupin_werewolf
Nov 26 2006, 09:18 PM
mmmm maybe...
it would explain why he feels he is "too dangerous" for her but if she was a werewolf then wouldn't that mean lupin would probably be okay with being with her? i mean two werewolves together...it wouldn't really cause any threats or dangers would it?
it is not the top thought on my list but then again anything is possible! it has got me thinking... but didn't see only look like lupin (plae, ill) because she chose to? and as for being tired that could have been late shifts or anything or working for the order... but hey!! like i said it could be possiable....
Golden Phoenix
Nov 26 2006, 09:28 PM
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what if lupin bit tonks?that would explain why she was always tired after sirius died, because maybe soon after, on one of lupin's midnight trips, tonks was there and he accidently bit her!
Maybe... but I don't think he did. I mean why would Tonks be out while Remus was transformed, and why would she be anywhere near him? Plus, he has the wolfsbane potion so he when he transforms he isn't harmful to anyone anyway. But there certainly is a possibility that when (if) they get together, Remus might end up biting her when he transforms. That might happen... but only if he runs out of Wolfsbane potion or something. That would be why he said he was too dangerous for her, just in case he actually did bite her.
Padfoot08
Nov 26 2006, 09:45 PM
QUOTE
hmmm... i wonder if lupin ever bit someone? on accident or on purpose?
That is a good question. First off, I believe a human is turned by a werwolf
scratch not a bite. Bites are for vampires. Hmmm...A werewolf can not control what happens during their transformation; therefore, I think that he did. Not intentionally of course. I'm sure that all werewolves do at some point. It's incontrolable.
However, I do remember Remus saying somethng that was mentioned earlier, about greyback scratching people on purpose. Perhpas, more experienced, more evil werewolves can determine who they wish to hunt.
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what if lupin bit tonks?that would explain why she was always tired after sirius died, because maybe soon after, on one of lupin's midnight trips, tonks was there and he accidently bit her!
No. I really don't think that. I think she was tired after Sirius died because she hadn't slept in a long while. Even when she was talking to Molly at the table she was tired, and I believe JK described her as crying a lot and looking rather depressed. I honestly don't believe it would have anything to do with turing into a werewolf. If it was, then I think she would tell Remus, that way he wouldn't have used the excuse that he is one and he might hurt her.
baz
Nov 27 2006, 03:55 AM
Whoever said that he wouldn't use a wand because he's trying to disassociate himself from wizards when he's spying, i agree completely!
And the idea that greyback might remember the name lupin is really smart too.
Pad08, are you sure it's a scratch, not a bite? I thought it was a bite...
Remember in PoA when Hagrid is wondering out loud if Lupin didn't by accident hurt one of his magical creatures? And then he says that Lupin said to him that he didn't eat anything that night! I went...woah...he knows if he's eaten--or bitten--someone?
That might be relevent...
passerby
Nov 27 2006, 02:00 PM
Sorry this is going to be a tad bit off topic, but I found this on JKR's website, and it intrigued me as we had been talking about who would win in a duel: Lupin or Sirius. In speaking about Sirius, she said "The best looking, most rebellious, most dangerous of the four marauders." Not that I have trouble believing any of that of Sirius. She also said there is a particular piece of fanart that portrays Lupin and Sirius very accurately by Laura Freeman, but I can't find it! Just going to have to search further.
hp_book_reader
Nov 27 2006, 06:55 PM
no i don't believe that Lupin bit Tonks. she just seemed depressed about Sirius dying and about the thought that she and Lupin may never be. plus if she was already a werewolf then why would Lupin be so hesitant to be with Tonks, because i think that the only reason that Lupin didn't want to be with Tonks was because he that he would bite her or hurt her by mistake. but if she was already a were werewolf then Lupin wouldn't have to worry about it.
p.s. passerby now i really want to see that picture!
K.Lupin_werewolf
Nov 27 2006, 06:59 PM
passerby - sounds like a really good picture... post the link as soon as possiable yeah?
i don't agree with J.K lol Lupin is the very best of the four!!
random question that just popped in my head like..right now...
Do you think Lupin's parents are alive? If yes do you think they will be involved in the next book?? random... i know...
ahorsofadifcolor
Nov 27 2006, 07:40 PM
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First off, I believe a human is turned by a werwolf scratch not a bite. Bites are for vampires. Hmmm
Werewolf is bite too. Lupin says he was very young when he was
bitten and throughout the books there are refrences to werewolf bites not scratches.
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However, I do remember Remus saying somethng that was mentioned earlier, about greyback scratching people on purpose. Perhpas, more experienced, more evil werewolves can determine who they wish to hunt.
I'm not 100% positive but I do believe that Lupin said Greyback positions himself near the people he wants to bite so he will be near them when he transforms. Although I could be thinking of something else.
As for Lupin biting Tonks I don't think this would ever happen. Tonks is too smart to be around Lupin when he transforms, plus she's an auror, I think she would be trained to handle a werewolf attack. Maybe Lupin has bitten someone accidently but I doubt this subject will ever be covered in the books. Or book as it were.
I don't think Lupin's parents are alive because I think they would be helping their son out a little if they were. And lets face it, Lupin could use a little help with finances. Even if his parents didn't have a lot of money you'd think they would at least buy the guy a new set of robes if they were alive.
Black Eyed Pea - Someone will respond to your post if they are on, but it's not like a chatroom where it happens automatically.
#tigerlily#
Nov 27 2006, 08:19 PM
i just stumbled over this thread...and iīm pretty interested.
and i wonder if i could join SPELL too?!please tell me!
i think the risk for tonks to get hurt by lupin is not as high as he believes it to be... he knows when he has to take his potion and tonks could simple stay away for the night of lupins transformation.
he has hudge problems and feels so alone so it could just help him to let tonks in his life!
about his parents...maybe lupin wanted to stay away from them because he thought he would be too dangerous...there are people that donīt stay intouch with their familymembers for different reasons.so they donīt need to be dead.
lilyluvr
Nov 27 2006, 08:25 PM
hello tigerlily! welcome to SPELL!
hmm, i'm not really sure about his parents, its one of those things that you never think about, but i agree with tigerlily, i think lupin wanted to stay away from them because he might think it was too dangerous. but it makes you want to think, who was sirius's parents? who was pettigrew's parents? who was dumbledores parents?
okay, i think that whole tonks getting bitten by lupin was a little "out there!"
passerby
Nov 28 2006, 01:03 AM
I'm searching as I type this for that picture. Sorry for making every one so curious!
I, too, don't believe that Lupin has bitten Tonks. I think this has to do with the fact that he seems to try to distance himself from other people when he transforms (well, okay, that's mostly a speculation). I think, too, that he's been so involved in being with the other werewolves that he probably hasn't been around her while transformed. Again, speculation. I also agree that her morose mood has to do with her feelings and not because of any health issues.
I wouldn't doubt that Lupin's parents are alive, though we haven't heard about them and seen them. Let's just say that it wouldn't surprise me either way. Gah. I hate being so indecisive!!
Okay, here's the
picture. I like the black and white, myself, but it's the one with pigment. Which is more cartoonish than I thought it would be. What do you guys think?
baz
Nov 28 2006, 04:24 AM
I would take a squizz at that pic right now, but I am on the school computers and Webmarshall (BLEEP YOU WEBMARSHALL!!!) is blocking me due to 'pornography'. Load of bleep, because it has even blocked Dictionary.com due to 'pornography'. DICTIONARY.COM!!!
Sorry 'bout that, just had an Italian exam.
I do not believe that Lupin has bitten Tonks. I just have a feeling. Plus, it doesn't seem to fit in with the series. Then again, when looking at the series from a post Book 5 pre Book 6 view, the idea of Malfoy Jr being a Death Eater was just a little zany, and see what happened...so ifsomething crazy like that can become canon, then maybe...
I'm undecided to whether Lupin's parents are alive or not. Because we don't hear from them, they could be dead. They could also be estranged. My dad is estranged from his mum because of family issues, they haven't spoken to each other in years. Maybe, if they are estranged, it's because of his...yes, I'm going to say it, the spark of many many rumours and theories...lycanthropic tendancies.
passerby
Nov 28 2006, 04:37 AM
Aw, baz! That's too bad! Oh, just so everyone knows. . .I'm just linking to the Lexicon. Don't want anyone getting the wrong impression!
Was it really a shock to you that Draco turned DE? I didn't find it too shocking.
More thoughts on the Tonks/Werewolf thing: I think that it would have come up. I think Harry would have figured it out (okay, Hermione as she's the one who figured out Lupin (oh, look, I'm actually mentioning him in his thread!)) I think she'd have been absent from them more, as well. Not that we notice her a lot, really, in the grand scheme of things.
K.Lupin_werewolf
Nov 28 2006, 04:38 PM
thanks for all the repiles on if Lupins parents are alive or not. it was really random question that popped into my head at the time. i am unsure to my opinion on my own question...lol.
in a way i think that they are dead...
but in a way i think that Lupin bit someone in the family or close to the family and his family disowned him or something.. another possibility...
but i think he's parents would not do that as they did try to do all they could for their son when he was bitten... so were are told...
but at the same time i think it would be good if they were in the next book... because then Lupin would have more people beside him and well it think it would be slightly amusing to see his parents reaction if they were to see tonks...
oh and lilyluvr... i know what you mean! i wonder about everyone's family... their parents etc! thanks guys!!
passerby - i like the black and white one more myself... but i do like the cartoon-type one because it captures the ... life of them. the black and white one is good because .. well i think it's a really good drawing to be honest!
etphonehome
Nov 28 2006, 06:37 PM
Lupin, Lupin, Lupin, Lupin....Lupin.
Just thought I'd mention him a few times just in case I get off topic!!
I did check and he did say that he was in fact bitten as a youngster and not scratched. But has he unwittingly bitten anyone? Well I think he probably has. If you thnk of it logically and not through rose tinted specs, he must have been let loose as a werewolf at some time other than in PoA. Therefore it's resonable to assume that while under the influence of the wolf, he may have attacked some poor innocent without knowing it.
As to whether he would attack Tonks. She would know how to subdue him with the Wolfbane...she may come across as a complete clutz, but really she is very clever, after all she is an Auror!
OK own up who's torn the parchment again!!!
Earlier on in this topic...only about a month or so ago, we discussed wheter or not Lupin parents could be alive. I think the general concencus was that since they were not mentioned in the books, that they were probably dead.
K.Lupin_werewolf
Nov 28 2006, 09:32 PM
oops sorry i didn't know that the topic had already been mentioned! sorry!!
well anyway...
erm...
does anybody see another person playing Lupin??
for me i can't see anybody other than David Thewlis playing him..
this question has been asked before hasn't it?? i bet it has! oh well lol
lilyluvr
Nov 28 2006, 10:51 PM
no, that dude umm, david thewlis seems to be playing lupin quite well, i cant see him being played as any other. and i am POSITIVE that lupin bit someone.
poor baz (you) at least you get to take italian! im stuck with spanish.

(no offense to any spanish-speaking person- but the language is way too hard for me)
that pic is really good, except they black and white really didnt fit the characters.
baz
Nov 29 2006, 02:10 AM
Actually, to continue the start of my previous post, Webmarshall is also blocking Bible.com on my school computer.
For pornograpgy.
The world is filled with infinate stupidity.
Personally, I really like David Thewlis as Lupin. It's ironic, there was a movement of some sort on The Leaky Cauldron where loads of Lupin fans were saying that it should have been Ralph Fiennes playing Lupin. Yes, they wanted the guy who plays Voldie to play Lupin. And on the special features of PoA movie, David Thewlis says that he was originally signed up to play Quirrell in Philosopher's Stone or something like that.
Yeerrggh.
#tigerlily#
Nov 29 2006, 05:28 PM
i could never picture Ralph Fiennes playing Lupin?!
he comletely misfits that role!
though i love to see him play in the HP movies ( he is great in playing dark characters!)
David Thewl is, in my opinion, the best choice for the job.
he portrays lupins character as good as you can expect it from any actor how was actually casted to play Quirell...
K.Lupin_werewolf
Nov 29 2006, 05:45 PM
well like i have said i can't see anyone else play Lupin. and when i first heard that David Thewlis was orginally cast for Quirell i was like "no way!". and well the only scene i can see David doing really well (as Quirell) is the scene between Quirell and Snape when Harry is under the cloak... Ian Hart stuttered at that part in the film and i can see David in that scene because he does stutter in the shrieking shack when Snape is talking to Sirius and then turns to Lupin...
but i am glad that he didn't play Quirell... because i can't see anyone else in Lupin's role...
Padfoot08
Nov 29 2006, 05:56 PM
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Do you think Lupin's parents are alive? If yes do you think they will be involved in the next book?? random... i know...
Personnaly I don't think that they are. If they are than Remus hasn't had any contact with them in a long time. I really don't know. However, I wouldn't put it past JKR to bring them up and back into Lupin's life just to confuse and shock us.
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but i am glad that he didn't play Quirell... because i can't see anyone else in Lupin's role...
Same here! I thought Ian Hart was a good Quirell. And David is the best person to play Lupin.
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Actually, to continue the start of my previous post, Webmarshall is also blocking Bible.com on my school computer.
For pornograpgy.
The world is filled with infinate stupidity.

It does the same thing at my school!
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