Louise
Sep 6 2006, 11:36 PM
I'm opening a new thread for you guys, but I want to make a few things very, very clear.
Whilst this thread is supporters only for H/G's, it is
not an excuse to start bashing other ships or poking fun at the people who support them.
The ONLY thing that you may talk about here is the H/G ship, and that's it. No other ships, no other shippers. The previous thread got locked because I was tired of having to warn people for taking the mick or making digs at primarily, the H/Hr shippers. I want to make it very clear that I WILL NOT TOLERATE IT. If the thread gets locked, it spoils it for everyone so no matter how you feel about rules, shippers or anything else, think about your fellow fans. They are the only ones you'll be hurting if you fail to follow this very simple rule.
It is a condition of this thread remaining open that EVERYONE takes the time to read the notes about the Ships forum
here before posting. If I, or any other member of staff, needs to warn someone in here, it will be an official one. We make allowances for newcomers who may not be aware of the rules, but if you have a good few posts under your belt and have been here for a while, then you have no excuse.
I really don't want to have to lock this thread again. Don't make it necessary.
If you want to debate, then apply for membership to the Great Hall. Otherwise, this is H/G only.
I'll let you carry on then, but I'm watching.
muggleview
Sep 7 2006, 12:42 AM
A new thread! Hooray!
Make sure we keep it clean from any bashing, guys and gals!
Question number 1: Will Ginny be happy to live with Harry, if Harry survives the final battle? (with the possibility of vengeance from Death Eaters and Dark Lord's followers)
madmarauder123
Sep 7 2006, 01:06 AM
Yes, of course she will. She will love harry no matter what. She will be aware of the consequences, and quite possibly harry will train her to become more powerful. So I think that (partially) answers that question. Question Dos (two, for those who can't speak spanish) : Will Harry and Ginny get back together at the wedding, or will it be when Harry is in the hospital recovering from the final battle? Assuming he lives, of course.
Oh, and I was the second person to post here! WOOHOO!
prince_halfblood_22
Sep 7 2006, 01:33 AM
Im a bigger shipper for harry and ginny!!! glad someone agrees with me. now, i think ginny will be reluctant to live with harry at first, bc of the des and all of voldemorts followers, dementors, giants, werewolves, and etc. but, near the begining of the book, shell realize that this is the only way to satisfy her longing to be with harry. also, i think she will die in the final confrontation. she loves harry way to much not to die for him!! she will block a killing curse voldemort throws at harry in the last battle. this is my thought, so just throwing it out there for fans to read. i dont want ne of the trio or ginny to die, but this has to happen. well, have to quit for now, but if more is said on this thread, i shall be posting of course!!!
madmurauder123, u r correct to the hilt!!! and yes, she will get back with harry at the wedding, or probably most likely the reception, if there is one!! also, i believe there will be a harry/voldemort battle at this time!! ginny will of course, realize that she is safer with harry than with out him, also i think harry will notice this too!! it is very possible, that harry will be gone most of the time, for the horcrux journey, but, ginny may tag along for this. dont know yet!! JKR is such a genius, that none of us will never know till the book actually is released!! I LOVE JKR!!!! whoops, sry bout that, glad to see people wanting harry and ginny back together though!!
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Just the Droobles
Sep 7 2006, 04:25 AM
Um...okay. So. I'm all for Harry/Ginny. Course, you could also consider me a Harry/Luna shipper or a Harry/styrofoam cup shipper. Either way, I support anyone Harry ends up with. So, now that I've said that....
What makes us all so confident that our ship (H/G) will come back to us in book number 7? I mean, JKR said it was her intention to get them together, but was it her intention to keep them together? They do make a very strong couple. But really any girl who Harry could have the chance with would have to have a strong personality to be able to put up with him. Ginny, Luna, and Hermione all have strong personalities, so either way it goes, Harry will have a very strong woman beside him. But why Ginny?
Sorry. I just think that instead of planning the seventh book to form to this ship isn't really productive. I mean, as of now, this ship hasn't quite gotten away from the dock. It did, but it experienced technical difficulties and had to be delayed. So...I'd think better management of this thread would be to prove why this ship works as if it never happened.
madmarauder123
Sep 7 2006, 04:35 AM
hey man, it's all good. We think it's harry/ginny because that it has been asking for it since around book three. I was so sure it would happen then, but it just decided to wait three books. Also, I can sort of see harry with hermione (sorry harry/hermione people) bu not so much with Luna (sorry harry/luna people) It is the perfect match for two reasons. One, they are reallllllly cute together (I can't believe I said that, no self respecting guy would EVER say that!). and number two, they remind us of lily and james. he looks almost exactly like his father, she resembles Lily hair and personality wise. They didn't start going out till almost the end of Hogwarts (well, for Harry, anyways). They ended up getting married and having little Harry, and it is almost too coincidental for it not to happen. Well, that's just my theroy anyway, everyone's intitled to thier own opinion. (Again, sorry harry/hermione people and hary/luna people, you guys are all great!) Oh, and prince_halfblood_22, she will not die, they will both be wounded, recover, and have little red headed, green eyed children together! Just saying. It would be to gruesome if she died.
muggleview
Sep 7 2006, 09:19 PM
JustTheDroobles asked: "What makes us all so confident that our ship (H/G) will come back to us in book number 7?"
1. Ginny is not ready to let Harry go.
2. Harry is not ready to let Ginny go.
Let's just take a look to the break-up conversation at the end of book 6.
QUOTE
And Harry saw very clearly as he sat there under the hot sun how people who cared about him had stood in front of him one by one, his mother, his father, his godfather, and finally Dumbledore, all determined to protect him; but now that was over. He could not let anybody else stand between him and Voldemort....
This thought has let Harry to the decision to break his relationship with Ginny, just because he cannot afford to have another person who cares about him to stand between him and Voldemort and subsequently to die for his sake. We know Hermione is not in the list of those people, because Harry let Hermione to join him and Ron to find the horcruxes and basically into the war. Harry hasn't thought much about Luna to have her in the list of people who cares about him, either.
QUOTE
Harry looked at Ginny, Ron and Hermione: Ron's face was screwed up as though the sunlight was blinding him. Hermione's face was glazed with tears, but Ginny was no longer crying. She met Harry's gaze with the same hard, blazing look that he had seen when she had hugged him after winning the Quidditch Cup in his absence, and he knew that at that moment they understood each other perfectly, and that when he told her what he was going to do now, she would not say 'Be careful', or 'Don't do it', but accept his decision, because she would not have expected anything less of him.
Harry has found someone who can mutually understand each other perfectly. This is his soulmate, none other in the world. The only thing is at this moment, he has other thing which will not allow the two soulmates to be one.
QUOTE
And so he steeled himself to say what he had known he must say ever since Dumbledore had died. 'Ginny, listen ...' he said very quietly, as the buzz of con-versation grew louder around them and people began to get to their feet. 'I can't be involved with you any more. We've got to stop seeing each other. We can't be together.' She said, with an oddly twisted smile, 'It's for some stupid, noble reason, isn't it?' 'It's been like ... like something out of someone else's life, these last few weeks with you,' said Harry. 'But I can't ... we can't ... I've got things to do alone now.'
"We can't" Harry corrected himself. The breakup is for the sake of
both of them, not just for Harry himself.
QUOTE
She did not cry, she simply looked at him, ''Voldemort uses people his enemies are close to. He's already used you as bait once, and that was just because you're my best friend's sister. Think how much danger you'll be in if we keep this up. He'll know, he'll find out. He'll try and get to me through you.' 'What if I don't care?' said Ginny fiercely. 'I care,' said Harry.
"I care" is the phrase convincing me that H/G is the intended pair.
Again, "people ...close to" includes Ginny, but not Hermione, because Hermione will still go with Harry and Ron together in the adventure.
QUOTE
'How do you think I'd feel if this was your funeral ... and it was my fault ...'
Ginny's funeral will give Harry more grief than Dumbledore! Can he honestly say that for any other woman in the planet?
QUOTE
... With a miserable gesture, Harry got up, turned his back on Ginny and on Dumbledore's tomb and walked away around the lake. Moving felt much more bearable than sitting still: just as setting out as soon as possible to track down the Horcruxes and kill Voldemort would feel better than waiting to do it ...
Harry left behind Ginny and Dumbledore, to go ahead with his task at hand: to vanguish the Dark Lord, with Ron and Hermione.
Is there any indication that he will leave Ginny forever?
I don't think so.
Ginny is the prize Harry wish to be rewarded with once he finishes his task.
Ginny is the reason for Harry not to sit and wait any longer, but for the first time, he will do things proactively in fighting the Dark Lord.
Ginny will be the one whom Harry will go back, if he survives the battle.
Basically the end of Book 6 already gives the promise of what's going to happen with H/G at the end of Book 7, in life, hopefully not in death.
madmarauder123
Sep 8 2006, 12:10 AM
Wow, muggleview, that was deep. I mean, that was really profound there. But yes, I totally agree with you. Harry has never felt this way with another girl before. No offense to you cho/harry people out there, but I think it was just a minor crush, and he quickly got over it, didn't he? Besides, she loved Cedric, so I don't think it would be best to date someone who saw your true love die, is it? Again, no offense.
Just the Droobles
Sep 8 2006, 01:33 AM
QUOTE(madmarauder123)
No offense to you cho/harry people out there,
Before you go alittle crazy, I need to remind you that there is no need to ever mention any other shippers in here. So far you have mentioned 3 different sets of shippers, and had to apologize to them. If, for any reason, you have to apologize for what you say in a post, it is probably best you just don't say it. If rules about this are unclear, please go back to the top of this page to read Louise's post and have a look at the ship thread rules if you need them. If you have any other questions, please respond to this through the owl system.

QUOTE(madmarauder123)
and number two, they remind us of lily and james.
I realize that appearance is very obvious for this couple to look like Lily and James. I completely understand that and support it. However, there is no reason not to believe that Hermione is also somewhat like Lily. They were both at the top of their class. They were both Muggleborn. So I guess the question is who symbolizes Lily more? Ginny is the obvious one here with looks on her side...so instead of debating, it would be better if you just support Ginny.
You actually make a lot of really excellent points, muggy. I mean, none that I haven't heard before, but once again, this concretes a lot. I thikn the best thing within that is how both of them have a mutual understanding. It's not like Ginny was standing there like

and was asking why he was leaving her. She new it was coming and I think there was a great deal of understanding there. So your points were awesome. Now if only we could keep good posts like that for the rest of the time...
muggleview
Sep 8 2006, 02:02 AM
QUOTE(Just the Droobles @ Sep 7 2006, 06:33 PM) [snapback]224502[/snapback]
... I mean, none that I haven't heard before...
Well, after going on for 3 threads, and expecting book 7, we must have gone through the series hundreds of times. It's interesting, though, that every time you read it again, you may catch something you overlook before.
For Harry and Ginny, it's just a second temporary separation.
The first one, when Ginny was inside the Chamber of Secrets, and people thought Ginny was dead already, Harry felt it was probably the worst day of his life, without knowing exactly why. Actually the first separation lasts less than one full day, but it's enough to make little Harry felt the worst.
At the end of book 6, the second separation was just a few minutes ago. Wonder how long it will last this time.
Amyrat151
Sep 8 2006, 02:34 AM
Again Muggy I agree and disagree

. I like your point about it being the worst day of his life, but he had reasons he knew. The school is likely to be closed, his best friend who often offers him guidance(Hermione of course

) isn't there to do so, and his other best friend's sister could die. Which would hit him praticularlly hard because he was one of the family over the summer. But I agree that he has had this desire deep down to protect Ginny for her sake, not just for Ron's. But you have to admit for Ron's sake was also there.
I think that Harry didn't want Ron or Hermione to go either or die for him either. I the book he said he thought they understood that he had to do this alone. But Hermione and Ron have more than earned their place beside Harry. Plus he knows that they'd allow him to make the ulimate sarfice, his life of course, but Ginny would protest. What make the Trio the Trio and not Ron+Hermione and Harry+Ginny is the fact that the three of them have been made very aware that in the grand sceme of things, they don't really matter. Buffy had to die to save the world. Harry knows he might have to die to do the same, and Ron and Hermione do too.
At the wedding I think that they won't together, but I think Ginny will promise to wait for him.
muggleview
Sep 8 2006, 03:51 AM
I like your points, Ellen. The fact still is: the day Ginny was gone, Harry felt the worst, more than the day Dumbledore was dead. It's possible that Harry will feel miserable throughout the beginning chapter of Book 7 that he will immediately be the one telling Ginny to wait for him.
Amyrat151
Sep 8 2006, 01:35 PM
And that I agree with. And I love the line "What if I don't care." And Harry says "I care." It gave me chills when I first read it. Thinking "Oh my God, he really loves her." And the other line when they looked into eachother's eyes and just knew what the other was thinking, how amasing. Harry has never had a moment like that with anyone else.
muggleview
Sep 8 2006, 09:06 PM
After declaring that statement, plus locking eyes with perfect understanding, I don't think Harry can quickly switch to any girl. Those facts are written there in book 6, to reveal solid foundation of H/G relationship. Yes, they will undergo ups and downs. They will fight now and then. They will be separated. They will be in mortal peril separately or together. But they have that basis to grow a solid relationship, once the opportunity comes. That's why I think H/G is pretty much sailing, although the author chose to put it in cliffhanger state at the end of book 6 (part 1 of Book 6-7 big story).
madmarauder123
Sep 9 2006, 05:01 AM
Hey all. I have been busy at home, so have not been able to go on here for a while. That... and I forgot abut this thread. I'm a terrible harry/ginny shipper, I admit it, you are all free to beat me up.

. Anyway, I agree, I think having to sit through Ginny's funeral and vice versa would be the worst day of either of their lives. In Chamber of Secrets, Harry risked his life fo Ginny. At the time, most of us thought it was because she was Ron's little sister, but I think he liked her even back then, just too imature to understand that. I seriously think it took Sirius's death to make Harry look at his life more carefully. It was probably then he realized he liked (loved) ginny. Well, that's just me, anyway. And justthedroobles, thank you for the warning. I will be more careful from now on. and muggleview...are you a philosopher or something? I mean, dude you have some really deep stuff about Harry/Ginny that I couldn't even dream of thinking of. And Amyrat151, are you new, because I've never seen you on here before, than you appear like you were here from the beginning like me and muggie. Just saying, don't take it personnally, I love to see another Harry/Ginny on here. Well, it's late, so I will see you all tomorrow. Night all!
muggleview
Sep 9 2006, 10:50 AM
Madmarauder123, consider this one of your comfort domains. We are here to enjoy our common favourite topic: Harry/Ginny romantic life. Don't feel bad for skipping for a while. Now we are already in Thread 4, I cannot imagine H/G can be so far a few years back, because then the hints for H/G are still scarce and well-hidden from casual reading (mainly in the first 4 books). Amazing how we have come to this new thread, leaving hundreds of posts each in the previous 3 threads. We have definitely a lot to talk about H/G.
I'm no philosopher, just an addicted reader. I guess I am a "product" of the intense shipping war a while back, that make the participants searching deep for hard facts, clues and implicit information. Amyrat151 was and is a productive poster then and in the previous threads, despite her absent for a few days lately.
Sirius death is ranked the first in Harry's loss, because he became a real parent to Harry, who never experienced life with James and Lily Potter (Harry was 1 year old when both parents died). Dumbledore is a father figure, but not that close as a real father. Interestingly, Harry places Ginny higher than Dumbledore in his list of people who care about him, just below the parents (James, Lily and Sirius). This is a place usually reserved for a spouse. No other girl occupies this space. The way Ginny is connected to Sirius in Book 5, her positive thinking enabled Harry to talk to him directly for the last time in book 5, is significant. The way Ginny brought Harry back to the real world after the loss of Dumbledore, is significant. No other girl can provide the same comfort.
I think by now it is clear that Ginny IS the one for Harry.
Waterlilly
Sep 11 2006, 12:46 AM
I really do hope that Harry and Ginny end up together in book 7! That is if they survive the final battle, which I hope they do. He really does care for her and we realize that at the end of book 6 when he has to give her up. That was a sad part in the book. We'll see what happens in book 7.
muggleview
Sep 11 2006, 06:15 AM
Do you believe Harry gave Ginny up? I don't think he did. Harry just thought letting Ginny be close to him will harm Ginny. So it's still about Ginny's well-being. Harry has not given Ginny up. Ginny never gave Harry up. They will be united sooner or later.
amanda1212
Sep 11 2006, 11:42 AM
I agree with muggleview. I dont think they gave up because there would have been no reason for it. When you think of a relashionship giving up you think its because they were struggling, they were still going strong. Harry simply did it so he could protect her, he didnt want her being harmed in anyway. He still cares, he dosent want her being hurt and by breaking up with her this is how he feels he can protect her. I think that in the next book or even in the epolouge they will end up together
Amyrat151
Sep 11 2006, 01:33 PM
madmarauder123, look below my icon (Will and Elizabeth kissing) to see that I've posted at these boards since September 2004. And I'm pretty sure my first post was at the R/Hr thread, followed by one at the H/G thread.
And I think it's ironic that the one thing that usally shows a couple no longer cares about one another, or one person doesn't (breaking up), shows that H/G really care about each other. Because if it was lust that Harry felt for Ginny he wouldn't of cared much about her herself, more what she did for him, and he wouldn't of told her that he "cares." He doesn't mind that everyone is fighting the war, but he doesn't want Ginny to.
muggleview
Sep 11 2006, 07:43 PM
Harry has instinctively removed Ginny from danger since the end of Book 2. He won her from a certain death. He doesn't want her to be harmed anymore. In Book 3, Harry got a message from Mr. Weasley, that Sirius was (supposedly) out to kill Harry. Harry covered the news from Ginny, only revealed it to Ron and Hermione. Some may interpret that Harry didn't like Ginny enough to share his secrets with her. I think the contrary is true. Harry like Ginny so much that he doesn't want to make her worry about him or be in harmful way because of him.
ginnypotter4ever
Sep 11 2006, 10:58 PM
heart: OMG, of course she will totally be waiting for Harry if he comes back not matter what! She loves Harry way too much to leave because of You-Know-Who, or some Deatheaters! As my username kinda clearly states- Harry+Ginny will be together forever-I hope!! 
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muggleview
Sep 11 2006, 11:22 PM
GinnyPotter4ever, I have thought that is a name of Harry/Ginny's granddaughter

Anyway, this is a piece I pick up recently:
Q: J.K. Rowling will stop writing about Harry Potter after the seventh book, why is that? Do you think she is ready to kill Harry in the last book?
A: I don't think so. Harry is too young to die. The author should let him enjoy his life, after many difficult years. A good reason to leave Harry alone after the seventh book is when he decides to establish a big family as he always desires. Soon he will be too busy raising children than to do anything else worth writing.
<<end quote>>
Harry and Ginny can have 12 children as predicted!
madmarauder123
Sep 12 2006, 12:24 AM
Ok, ok, I understand, there are a lot of people. Sheesh, you say one thing....

Though I think it's obvious to all here that Harry is protecting Ginny out of fear for her saftey. "How do you think I would feel if this was your funeral?" He obviuosly cares about her very much. I personnaly think that it was a bonehead move on his part, and will realize that either during the dursleys or the wedding. Well, that's just me personnaly, other people may think differently.
muggleview
Sep 12 2006, 01:00 AM
Yeah, it's too obvious. Harry doesn't want Ginny to be in danger, whereas he doesn't mind other girls to be involved in his adventures. Speaking about the futility of Harry's action, for one Prof. Slughorn noticed early on that Ginny has a thing for Harry and most likely he also noticed that Harry paid a bit more attention than usually to Ginny. If the theory that Slughorn works for Voldemort is correct, Harry leaving Ginny will only make Ginny vulnerable for Death Eater's attack.
Amyrat151
Sep 12 2006, 07:15 PM
Even if Ginny never meet Harry she'd still be in threat of DE actacks because of her family, being the younest and all. And she's already been attacked, and the reason for that have entirely to do with her father. Just restating my point.
But I think that it also has to do with a hero having to be alone to face the greast challenge. And as I keep saying Harry knows he might die, he can't have the reason why he wants to stay alive most around him.
muggleview
Sep 12 2006, 07:44 PM
Yeah, I guess that's the main reason in Harry's mind: More likely than not he will die at the hand of the most powerful wizard of the era (now that Dumbledore is dead). His survival chance is very slim. He doesn't want to leave Ginny a widow, so he'd better lead a separate life from her. And with that, Harry won't even try to find any other lover. If he survives, he will be back to Ginny.
choccokitty
Sep 13 2006, 12:10 PM
I think they will get back together at the wedding, but the final battle will be after the wedding, so they will be back together at thew final battle. They will need each other at this time.
Amyrat151
Sep 13 2006, 01:28 PM
Yes Muggy, I am so brillant

, jk, jk. But I myslef don't think Harry will die, because it seems like a dumb thing to do after all he's been though, but I think that he does. So he needs Ginny away from him so he can focus on the Fight. And as I've said before, Harry knows he can't be selfish about his life, because he belongs to the world right now, to keep it safe.
choccokitty, I think that a promise will be made at the wedding, but they won't really get back together till the end.
muggleview
Sep 13 2006, 09:24 PM
You are brilliant, Ellen! I agree, Harry-Ginny won't be together until the last part, because it's Jo Rowling's style to keep us in suspense until the end. But I also believe they will survive the war and establish a happy family together.
What if Harry or Ginny is paralysed after the war?
Harry Potter Fan
Sep 13 2006, 10:07 PM
I totally support this relationship. They have and always will make a cute couple.
ILoveHarryPotter07
Sep 13 2006, 11:05 PM
Yahh..our thread is back! Ok..as to Muggy's question on page 1.. I think that Ginny will be happy to live with Harry after the war..even with the threat of death eaters. We know that she loves him and would give anything to be with him. So there is no doubt in my mind if she was asked what her answer would be..(unless of course Mrs.Weasley objects for some reason) Also Muggy..as I have said before and still agree with..JKR will not kill him off because he does have so much more to live. He has experienced most of the horrible things in life I think he deserves to feel the good things like love too. But there is still part of me that thinks she will kill Harry. I have a good question..I think it will be interesting to see everyones views on it..
If Harry dies what will happen to Ginny..will she find love? will she greive herself into insanity..What do you think?
muggleview
Sep 13 2006, 11:07 PM
They are indeed a cute couple, and in Book 7, I believe they are also the most powerful couple. Somehow all indications point to a powerful Ginny, to match the powerful Harry. Both will stand out as the main couple in the series.
Amyrat151
Sep 14 2006, 07:56 PM
Thank you Muggy

.
Courtney, I don't like that question, but I will answer. I think that Ginny wouldn't go insane with greif, because she's stronger than that, and I think she would know that Harry would want her to keep going. Would she find love, I dunno. She could spend her life honoring him and decate it to fighting evil by becoming an Auror.
muggleview
Sep 14 2006, 08:14 PM
Honestly, I find it difficult to portray Ginny being left behind by a dead Harry. Not at this age.
She has been languishing for her love to Harry for so long, and then, Harry is gone, leaving her to pieces. She is a strong girl. She will stand up, but I don't think she can love any other man. The scenario I can imagine (and I don't like it to happen at all) is Ginny helping Hermione to take care of her children and uphold Harry's memory in the wizarding world. Ginny may become an Auror, as Ellen suggested, and possibly will lead the Order of the Phoenix. Although now I don't think she will, she can be a DADA teacher at Hogwarts later, just like McGonagall.
ILoveHarryPotter07
Sep 14 2006, 09:23 PM
humm..those are good ideas. The greif thing..i didnt mean it literally it was just an example. I think that she would probably not move on and marry anyone..per se..but I think that she will probably date..maybe. Although..I don't think we will have to think of this possibility..because there is so much evidence pointing toward Harry's survival..(I know..just as many for death.) Plus I think that JKR is going to keep this storyline going. Its one of the few positive happy things left in the books..at least until voldemort is dead.
Courtney
muggleview
Sep 14 2006, 09:59 PM
I share your optimism, Courtney. Harry won't die in the battle. He will die eventually at a very old age, holding his 144th great great grandchild.

The optimism I have is based on how Ginny is developed so far. She is one of Jo's favourite character. She has been developed very cautiously at the background. Jo paid very good attention even in details, so with the few chances we read about Ginny, we got rich information if we also pay similar amount of attention. Subliminally we already take it as the truth that Ginny loves Harry, although we don't see how Harry could attract other girls, not until the 6th book.
This is the most intriguing pair in the series. And the cutest as well.
Louise
Sep 14 2006, 11:56 PM
ILoveHarryPotter07 - please remove the ship-bashing icon from your signature and re-read the signature rules.
You may have ship supportive icons in your signature, but you are not allowed to have ship-bashing ones.
Amyrat151
Sep 15 2006, 01:27 PM
Muggy that was what I was thinking about Ginny too, about her being a DADA teacher later.

But I don't think Harry will die because not a good thing has happened in his life that didn't come with a cacth or something bad happening right after. Example: meeting Sirius. Cacth: can't be with him in a real way exect when he was in exile. Harry deserves to live.
Courtney, it's pretty hard to think of Ginny with another man. I just...can't.
muggleview
Sep 15 2006, 02:16 PM
Oh yeah. I remember having an uneasy jolt reading Ginny having Michael Corner as a boyfriend. Apparently Harry had the same feeling (hey, we both boys). I just can't picture Ginny be happy with other boys. But there's a purpose there and not far from Jo Rowling's experience with her marriages. One may not get THE soulmate at the first date(s), but don't dwell with it too much until finding the one and then be happy. I'm glad Ginny is happy with Harry.
Amyrat151
Sep 18 2006, 01:22 PM
Oh yeah, I never really thought of that before, about JK's first marriage. That's probally one of the reasons she didn't want the main pairings first kisses to be with eachother.
The information about Ginny took him out of his Cho daze, which I never really thought about all that much before. But he noticed that she talks to him now.
muggleview
Sep 18 2006, 08:50 PM
Precisely. Cho's Harry's first real girlfriend, with whom he tasted his first kiss. During that period of time, he should be oblivious to any other girls. Ginny was the exception. She was so much in the background, that it should be very telling when Harry paid attention to her situation.
Besides, it shouldn't be considered an important news, if it's just about Ron's sister. In fact, Hermione meant to inform Ron about it. She only said to Harry in order to make sure Harry was not offended. Come to realise, that it was Hermione's intention to check on Harry, whether he was affected or not. Cleverly, Jo Rowling drew the readers' attention to Ron's actions. We should be able to see now, that the main purpose is to show the proof Harry was not as ignorant to Ginny as he seemed to be.
Amyrat151
Sep 19 2006, 06:38 PM
Yeapers, Jo spent a whole converstation on the fact that a background character now has a boyfriend, when we learned about Percy and Penelope it was like page.
And Hermione even says "not that she doesn't like you, oh course," knowing some how that if Ginny would start being cold to Harry, it wouldn't sit well with him. You know Hermione is pretty amasing. Spending as much time as she did woth both Harry and Ginny, she must of realized how good they'd be together.
muggleview
Sep 20 2006, 01:21 AM
She summed it nicely in book 5, that H/G may have looked to the other while the other doesn't.
When Ginny hoped for Harry, Harry looked at Cho. Now as Ginny had boyfriend, Harry started to look at her. I am glad my love life is not that complicated, but then it's Jo's intention to make Harry/Ginny romance the most intriguing in the series, not to be overshadowed by any other pairs.
Amyrat151
Sep 20 2006, 01:26 PM
I wonder what would of happened sometimes if Harry would of went to the Yule Ball with Ginny. If Neville hadn't asked her and Ginny would of been free to go with Harry. I think Harry would feel a bit gulity, knowing that Ginny has such a big crush on him and it's sorta like he'd be going with her as a last resort. But he had to have a someone to dance with, and I think Ginny would of said yes for obvious reasons. Would she of been to shy to of even looked at him most of the night, or would they find something they were comfy talking about, probally Quidditch, and have a nice time. But of course JK meant for Cho to get together and break up, but still.
muggleview
Sep 20 2006, 10:28 PM
If you read the GOF carefully, you actually have the proof that Harry looking at Ginny all the time, until she disappeared from the room. I believe Harry didn't mind to go with Ginny. He was only too shy to ask (and too afraid of Ron, just after they making up again). We read that Harry didn't have any objections, even after Ron mentioned it twice.
Do you realise that after the rejection from Cho, Harry didn't feel like to ask anybody else to go to the dance? He can even laugh at Ron's comment on Hermione. I think at that moment, Harry still had that proud feeling about Ginny having crush with him and that he could have plucked her anytime he wanted. Even as Ginny revealed about Neville, Harry didn't feel too bad, because it was Neville (someone apparently inferior to him in quality as a boy). But Harry still monitored Neville-Ginny for a long time during the Ball.
Only after Ginny was not available, Harry had to go to Parvati, whom he later ignored most of the time at the Ball.
Amyrat151
Sep 21 2006, 06:35 PM
Because of Cho Muggy, not Ginny. I believe that Harry didn't have outward feelings for Ginny yet, because Cho was blocking that view. And I think that he only looks at Ginny once or twice, I don't think he wacthed her for a very long time, mabye a couple mintues here and there.
As for asking Ginny, Ron made the suggestion that they would go together so...::shurg::
muggleview
Sep 21 2006, 10:00 PM
Harry ignored Parvati because he didn't have any feelings towards her. Remember that Harry tried his best not to look at Cho's direction. Instead, he noticed that Ginny was "frequently" winced being trodded regularly by Neville. "Frequently" is more that "several times", isn't it?
One sign about love/affection is one often looks at that specific person, without realising why. Harry showed us the reason he looked at Cho, but he mentioned Ginny more than Cho and never explained why he needed to watch her. He couldn't, because it's for no apparent reason. It was voluntary, because his heart is stolen by that particular person, Ginny, subconsiously.
Amyrat151
Sep 22 2006, 01:39 PM
She could of done it frequently the few minutes that he wacthed her. I think that he did watch her, Muggs, just not a whole lot. I think that there was subconsious feels, but they were pretty far down at that point.
And I agree, he didn't pay attention to Parvati because he wished he was there with Cho. Do you think that if he would of went with her it would of taken Harry and Ginny even longer to get together?
muggleview
Sep 22 2006, 04:30 PM
Do you mean if Harry were with Cho or with Ginny?
If Harry would have gone with Cho at the time, he would have seen that in Cho's heart, there's Cedric early on. The H/Cho relationship would never have existed.
If Harry would have gone with Ginny, I am sure they will hit it sooner, because Harry can feel how Ginny perfectly understands him early on. Ginny knows how not to push Harry beyond what he will and can do (speaking about romance). As Ginny could do her best to make the night enjoyable for her and Neville (indicated by Neville's act in book 5 to defend Ginny), she could have made the night much more pleasantly memorable for Harry.
Apparently the storyline was planned not to have all of these before book 6, because Harry had to go to Cho's route first. So far, Harry has been alone with Hermione, Parvati, Luna, Cho, Ginny. Not a bad idea. After knowing more girls, Harry can now wisely see who among them is the most suitable for him.