In GoF, Hermione was with Harry in the beginning, but then Harry didn't mention her for a while, instead Harry was alone. Sometimes, he accompanied Hermione in the library, but on the other time, Harry was busy thinking for himself. He didn't miss Hermione and Hermione didn't treat him special, except in term of learning spells. Harry and Hermione were not meant to be a romantic partner.

Ex-ack-er-y! (Sorry, that's my way of saying exactly) Just because Harry's a guy and Hermione's a girl and they hang out with each other all the time doesn't mean that they're destined to be together forever. People can be friends and have a fine relationship. Harry and Hermione are proof of that.

And you're right Ellen, i don't think Harry even considered Hermione to go to the Slug-fest with him. He was too busy trying to avoid all the other girls and trying not to think about Ginny.

For each person, there are some types of persons one can get along as friends and a unique type as a romantic partner. We know Harry's type: Quidditch, petite and long hair. Harry found that type in Cho and Ginny. Hermione didn't have any of the traits, thus not Harry's type. Hermione is simply not destined to be Harry's romantic partner.

I love Hermione's character, but I agree with everyone. Hermione is not meant to be Harry's love interest. He has always seen her as a friend. And that is all they will ever be.

Remember in Order of the Phoenix when Harry went to Hogsmeade with Cho on Valentine's Day? Cho got jealous that Harry had made plans to go with Hermione to the Hog's Head (I believe that is the name of the pub), and Harry laughed. He thought it was ridiculous that Cho would be suspicious of his relationship with Hermione because there was nothing there but friendship.

I think that Harry and Hermione are strictly friends. Thats all. But I kinda think that R/Hr will totally work out...but that's off topic. Just because Harry and Hermione are friends and hang out, that doesn't mean that they are a couple. I have tons of guy friends, but most of them, I don't like them like that.

Exactly! Harry doesn't look at Hermione like that, he rather sits back and watches Ron and Hermione's spats about nothing (because they love each other, of course). JK has always told us when Harry has developed a liking for someone. If he had for Hermione, don't you think we would have had some kind of hints, like we had with Cho (thinking she was very pretty and getting distracted by her when he first saw her) and Ginny (rather, Ginny's liking of him in CoS). Forming a relationship now between Harry and Hermione would be out of thin air, considering we've had all the evidence in the world to say that they are nothing more than friends and that Hermione and Ron have always been more drawn together? Like I said, on-screen chemistry between actors has nothing to do with what JK has written about the actual characters.


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BamaGirl08, be careful about your choice of words about H/Hr supporters, newbies in the past have come in and not been careful and...it doesn't go well. But I agree with what you're saying about the book stuff. Harry has only said Hermione was pretty once, during the Yule Ball, but he also said that about the Patil twins, and other girls there, he describes her more detail because it's such a great change. Then he spends the rest of the night staring at Cho, with an occasional glance at Ginny and Neville. And his reponse to anyone thinking Hermione and he are that way is laughter.

Yes yes. But it wasn't nervous laughter like:

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Lol. It was like "Sure, like that'll ever happen" laughter. I think Ellen mentioned that.

All-in-all, H/Hr is just not meant to be.

Yeah, just in the last post I typed. And also with the supposed Hermione-Harry-Krum triangle that Rita wrote, Hermione is shocked, not upset. It's a WHAT? type of reaction. You think that if she had secret feelings for Harry, she'd at least blush. The signs have always been there, no H/Hr.

Oh, sorry about that post. I didn't even think about it or know that I said anything about the shippers and my intentions weren't to anger anyone, so thank you. I will be more watchful about what I type.



Yes, I had completely forgotten about that! Even Hermione has close to the same views about them and reacts in the same way. She thinks it's ridiculous for people to make such suggestions.

Yes. that's the beauty of it. They know that there's no feelings, so they could laugh it off, knowing that neither of them was going to be like "Hahahahahahahaha, um ... yeah! Sure! A-hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!"

I love nervous laughter. My friend can go on forever. Then most people are like

But back on topic, basically, H/Hr was never going to happen.

My first time posting in this thread.

I think that there is no way Harry/Hr is ever going to happen. They are just really good FRIENDS. H/Hr have never shown any romantic feelings towards each other. Harry has been interested in other girls from the first book - Cho & Ginny. Harry has never once said he liked Hermione in that way. I agree when you said about that article in the paper. H & Hr both denied they were dating. Hermione is really caring towards Harry but she doesn't have any feelings for him. We all know who she does have feelings for I think you guys have pretty much covered everything. What's Harry going to say in DH "oh by the way I like Hermione" I don't think so. I think we'd know by now if they liked each other.

H/Hr is just too weird.They don't like each other in that way.

r*hrfan, yeah, Harry all of a sudden thinking "I have romantic feelings for Hermione," would be crazy. He's never noticed her as being pretty with out a fancy dress, he's never remarked on her eyes, if he thinks that she looks beautiful when's angry, or how he loves to see her happy.
As Moon said, no nervous laughter.

first of all i would just like to make a formal apology to anyone who was offended by a previous statement of mine. in my last post i said

referring to the yule ball chapter in GoF. i mean this apology sincerely and did not mean any offense, and have retracted what i have said and replaced it in a somewhat lame manner, but i dont care if its lame. i hope that the people i have offended or hurt in any way, will forgive me, and i shall be more careful with what i say. im sorry.

now i would like to say that i agree about the nervous laughter, and harry, although recognizing the sudden change of hermiones appearance at the yule ball, still did not find her very appealing personally. after the disaster with cho on their first date when hermione said 'you should have told her how ugly you thought i was', and harry replied 'but i dont think youre ugly', harry was clearly quite appalled at the fact that hermione wanted him to slander her, just to make cho happy. harry was able to say that he didnt think hermione was ugly openly, and without blushing, because he knew that he could be honest without her thinking that he fancied her. hermione didnt have to blush because she knew that she didnt have feelings for harry and vice versa, she was able to laugh at his hopeless misunderstanding of girls, yet when it comes to harry not being as bad as ron, she sighs what seems to be an exasperated sigh. and remember, this laugh was freely amused, not apprehensive and nervous.

Telling a girl that you don't think she's ugly is differnt than telling her, stamering that you think she looks pretty. I have been reading the books, I'm up to PoA, and it's just so clear that Harry doesn't single Hermione out for his special attention, didn't care as much about Hermione's crazy schudle, or that Lockhart gave her a get well card. But Ron does. Hermione in turn doesn't care about Harry's opinion as much as she cares about Ron's. When he said that Tom sounded like Percy, top of his class, headboy, ect, Hermione said in a hurt vocie "you say that like it's a bad thing." If Hermione can't stand Ron, think's he's to imature, than why does she hang around him for 6 years?

Well said Amyrat151!

Harry has never seen Hermione as attractive apart from the Yule Ball where he said she was "pretty". Other than he just doesn't see her like that. Also even Harry thinks that Ron & Hermione would have happened sooner or later (HBP). Plus he doesn't mind that she asks Ron to Slughorns party. Surely he would have been jealous especially when Hermione asked Ron in front of him! Even at the Yule Ball he said to Ron "I don't have a problem with Hermione coming with Krum"= Harry is not jealous of Hermione whoever she is with.

Wow, the two of you are making wonderful points, and there certainly is a lot of evidence that we have been given, and some of it has to be read into a bit more than others. And I totally agree.

Ron seems to get jealous.. a lot. Some may say that that is a bad thing, but we have to remember.. Ron hasn't confessed his feelings for Hermione yet, so I'm sure seeing her with someone else and talking about the handsome Lockhart makes him feel a bit pressured and he certainly realizes he has competition.

On that same note, when have we ever seen Harry get jealous about anything Hermione does? Sure, maybe he got annoyed at Hermione when she talked about Lockhart, but annoyance and jealousy are two totally different things. Harry doesn't care who she's with. He's a friend. He feels absolutely no competetion because he's not in it for her. And, yes, as it's been stated many times before me, Harry acknowledges how pretty she is in the Yule Ball scene, but before then he has never called her pretty. She was always described to us as "the girl with bushy brown hair and large front teeth."

That's enough to convince this girl

Exatcly. The beauty of the H/Hr relationship is that there's no awkwardness. Both know they are only friends and always will be, so they know they can say anything comfortably without NL (nervous laughter) awkwardness and blushing.



And just adding on, he didn't ven realise that the girl he was calling pretty was Hermione until he looked at her properly. If hbe's not going to reacognise his so-called future love interest, then why on earth is she going to be his love interest?



The perfect line. That should be our tagline or something. It's totaly true.

If Hermione can't stand Ron, think's he's to imature, than why does she hang around him for 6 years?

Great point! Harry is also easily bored around Hermione. They both need Ron there. I can't remember the exact quote but Harry usually prefers Ron there and not to be alone with Hermione.
Plus there is one of my personal favourite quotes that prove Ron & Hermione are capable of getting on without fighting when they came back from Hogesmemde "Both looking like they'd had the time of their lives." (POA)

It proves that Ron and Hermine get along better alone and not H/Hr and enjoy their time together. I can't remember a quote like that from Harry about Hermione.

The quote is something like "Although Harry liked Hermione very much, it just wasn't the same as Ron. There was a lot less laughter and a lot more hanging arounnd in the library when Hermione was your best friend" I've written it somewhere on this thread.

Also, something that was said in the R/Hr thread:



This part, actualy doesn't annoy me. Why? Because it's canon. It's in the book, it actualy happened. Wow, two friends hugged after not seeing each other for over a month-how come people can't do that without being lovers?

Also, the hug though can sometimes seem pro-H/Hr, i see it as anti-H/Hr. I mean, they're 12. At that point, you're afraid to even touch a boy, right? Well, i know i was when i liked them. Sorry, i'm using me as an example.

But anywho, if she liked him surely she wouldn't have been so upfront and "Wo-hoo! Let's hug!" she would have been thinking "Oh no-i have to hug him?! But what if it's all awkward and he doesn't like me?!" They're only 12 at that point.

Although I can see where Hermione/Harry shippers can get their ideas (same way I get mine about Ron/Hermione and Harry/Ginny), I read them a bit differently.

Harry is the main character, and Jo introduced Ron and Hermione to Harry in the first book as Harry's best friends. That is what they are to Harry: his friends, therefore making Hermione his friend. We are never given any little hints in the book about any kind of relationship between Harry and Hermione, nothing canon that I have noted. As I've stated before, Emma and Dan have chemistry on-screen, but Jo didn't write about Emma and Dan. She wrote about Harry and Hermione as best friends.

I hope I didn't step on anyone's toes in this post, I've done it before and I was quite embarassed But I don't necissarily look as much into the movies for how I ship, mainly the books, but there is evidence in the movies, as well.

Well, I'm rambling, now

Wow, I can't believe so many people took to my words about Hermione hanging around Ron all these years. But that is the point, as the quote r*hrfan fan states, they had a good time alone together at Hogsmede. If Hermione was in love with Harry, you'd think that she'd stay behind, or at least be glad to be with Harry again and not just alone with Ron.
I also like the point that Hermione asked Ron out right in front of Harry! I mean, my God, if he liked Hermione, you'd think we'd be told that, right there!
BamaGirl08, Harry's description of Hermione doesn't changed in 4 years, always "lots of brown hair, big teeth," not "her hair had a causal elegance as it swept away of her eyes."
Moon, I think the reader need to remind themselves that Harry didn't realize that it was Hermione on Krum's arm till he looked again, in fact I'm pretty sure it first says "a pretty girl in blue robes he didn't know ," you'd think that if he loved her, he'd know her right away, and curse himself for not knowing her beauty sooner.

I do think it is funny how they waited until Harry left in Herbology to begin discussing it and then they didn't even realize he was tehre until he knocked his bowl over. I don't think either of them really had the confidence to do that in front of Harry because they'd just get a big I told you so from him. Then again proving that he wasn't angry that Hermione wanted to go with Ron. But I'll save that for the R/Hr thread or something.

Yes, it does prove that he doesn't really pay *that* close of attention to her, but then again, no one really realized who she was. Ron didn't even realize it was her at first either, and then there were several other people who were shocked when they finally figured out who she was. So Harry wasn't really the only one. But then again, he didn't stare at her all night or describe her with deep passion or anything....

Exactly my point. Since the books really are Harry's POV, if he had feelings for her, we would have had some description like that, and heard some stuff like... oh I don't know... a warm fuzzy feeling every time he saw Hermione or something.

Harry's also very shy around girls, especially around the time he started liking Cho, but he never gets fidgety and he never runs his words together when he's talking one on one with Hermione.



Another great point, and well-noted. We would have had something by now, like I've said before... hints, ya know, but we don't.

Another great point, and well-noted. We would have had something by now, like I've said before... hints, ya know, but we don't.

Exactly! JKR said she's dropped "anvil sized hints". That definitley doesn't describe H/Hr. You can barley find any hints of them at all.

Actaully Droobs, I don't think we know that Ron knew it was Hermione at first. Because in the book, I have it in fornt of me, he says "girl he didn't know," describes what it looks like outside and then Professor McGonagall called for Harry, they went away from Padma and Ron, that was it. Till we see "Ron was wacther Hermione pass with narrow eyes," so I'm guessing he knew that it was Krum with Hermione before.
BamaGirl08, we know how Harry is with girls he likes, swoop in the stomach, day dreams, and noticably shy. He has been nothing like that with Hermione, not even a little bit.

Ya. Very muchly true. Sure some can be very good at hiding feelings (Eg. Moi) but some arn't. Who knows-either Hermione's really good at hiding it, and harry's really good at hiding it even from the readers, as we've never come across a passgae in the book that goes along like this:

"Harry! Are you all right?"

Harry stopped rubbing his scar and looked up. There was Hermione looking all concerned, and it hit him that she looked rather cute when her eyes were full of concern like that-whoa, wait, did he just think that?

Yes, i think you did said a voice in his mind

But did i mean it? Harry asked, probbing his own thoughts.

well you said it. Doesn't that mean you mean it?

But-

No buts! It's clear isn't it? You like Hermione!

What! He didn't like Hermione ... did he?
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*shudders* you don't know who much it pained me to write that. But as i said, we've never seen something along those lines that proves H/Hr. It's that simple.

Hmm. Or the much more subtle way, as I've said before, sparkle of eyes, how the sound of her vocie is a comfort, the sweep of her hair, ect. He's never looked at her that way. Hermione has never been jealous of any of the girls Harry has looked at that way.

And Hermione was beaming when Harry kissed Ginny.Would she really have done that if she liked Harry.She wasn't jealous or didn't seem annoyed at all about it.

And when Ron was kissing Lavander well just look at her reaction to that!
If she really liked Harry in that way surely she would have showed some emotion to him kissing another girl.She's actually happy for him.

Also when she said to Harry "you've never been more fanciable". Would you just come right out and say that in front of a guy you liked. I mean she didn't even blush saying it.

Exactly little things like that prove that H/Hr has no feelings what so ever. Also, i agree Ellen that it'd be more subtle, but my view was just as example. lol.

But yeah, all in all, H/Hr is not meant to be. there's on sparkle, no chemistry, and most importantly, no feelings.

Well friendly feelings. I mean Harry would surely die for Hermione, and she would for him, but we would all do that for our family, and that's how they see each other, family.

Aha! Friends can go around saying to each other. ‘Wow, you look beautiful in that.’ And only mean it as a friend commenting another friend honestly without feeling 'those' feelings for each other. If you know what I mean…
I’ve never seen Harry and Hermione together at any time, reading the books. It’s like the books actually say that it’ll never be them and that’s it. They never had those feelings for each other, it was friends from the beginning, well after the whole troll-thing Friends through and through.

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Well, yeah, of course friendly feelings. That goes without saying really. But of course Harry would die for her, as families do (Though i don't think my family counts-right now i'd be asking Voldemort to murder my sister, but don't worry, i love her really (not).)

But bascially, Harry and Hermione are friends. nothing more. That's the beauty of the H/Hr friendship. No awkward moments.

There can be love between Harry and Hermione. Ah, but what kind, you ask? Sibling Love. Family Love. Their love for one another is that of very strong family ties, nothing more. Their love is so unsexual and so.... not tense, that it removes any kind of possiblility for attraction for both parties. I would never claim that there is no love between them... I constantly say that there love is just not relationshippy, that's all. Plain and simple. There is no way to get around that.

Yay! This is my 200th post! Hooray Veritaserum!

Well done on your 200th post!

I agree with everything said about H/Hr.There is just no way it is going to happen. Yes they do love each other but not romantically. Just a deep friendship.

It wouldn't even make sense for them to get together in the last book. No signs for romance between them at all.

If they were to get together, they'd have a bit of trouble explaining it, seeing as they've shown no interest in each other over the course of 6 books. I have a feeling that Ron would be all and everyone else would be all

But they're perfect friends.

PS. I've made almost 700 posts. I find that freakin' amazing. I really need to get a life ... Lol.

To be completely honest, I would not be surprised if Harry and Hermione ended up together. There is evidence that supports it, blah blah blah. However, I would wonder why so much was built up for Ron and Hermione. I would wonder why Hermione and Harry never expressed any feeling for each other before book 7. I would wonder why they brushed off the prospect of their relationship so easily. I would basically wonder what the point was.

The people in the book sort of expect Harry and Hermione to be with different people anyway. Whether that be Ginny or Luna or Ron or Krum or whoever. But I don't even think the book characters support this....

Hey...you guys still have a life. I've got upwards of 2200 posts so....I'm pretty lame too. No worries.

^^ Not trying to be rude but you really shouldn't be in this thread if your a H/Hr supporter.

There is NO WAY they will end up together. The reason they've never said about their feelings for each other is because they don't see eachother in that way. No romantic feelings. There has been no hints for them at all.
Even this movie will make it clearer who we all know it is

Sorry I just really despise H/Hr. I think I would throw up if they ended up with eachother!

Obviously we know who Hermione loves.

Excuse me, but I'm aware of where shippers are and aren't supposed to be. And in no way do I support H/Hr. I was just saying that it's not out of the blue. None of the ships are out of the blue except for the slash ones and maybe a few whack ones like Draco/Hermione. However, if you actually read my post, then you would know that it does not support H/Hr.

So...Ron always knew Hermione was Hermione? I thought in the book somewhere it said that Ron walked right by her. But Harry sure wasn't watching her with narrowed eyes, was he? I'll have to check back up on that. If I didn't have required reading I would so be rereading the series.

I could go on for forever about why this ship doesn't work. But there's really nothing else to talk about because we've said everything. H/Hr has been disproved so many times.... I do not support it I will not support it.

However, I will leave the thread if you'd like me to. Way to shoo off your fellow shippers.

Anyway, stay on topic. Have fun.

I think when Harry just realised that it was Hermione, he described others reactions. Malfoy couldn't think of anything to say and Ron completly ignored her. I think he realised who it was, but just ignored her.

Then later on when theyr'e dancing, it says Ron was watching them with narrowed eyes. I think.

I only know this because i've read this part recently to my sister.

Oh and don't leave! We need people so all together, we can wallow in our non-H/Hr supportiveness. Whoa that didn't make sense, it sounds like something i'd say when making up an answer in my english exam.

But yeah, also, just on a sidenote, last night i decided on family bonding time, and we watched GoF together. Basically my commentry throughout the entire thing was "That's not canon! Hermione doesn't hug Harry before the first task!"

Why do they do that? Why on earth do the movie people empthasise (sp?) on H/Hr when it's clear in the books tht H/Hr is never going to happen?

Droobs, I say this with great affection towards you, you're not an easy person to "get" right away.
But anyway, about the thing I said...it's late where I am, I don't really feel like going and cracking open my book to check if Moon is right, that Ron ingorned her at first, or wacthed her with narrow eyes first. But I think that when Ron saw her, he new it was Hermione and not "some girl he didn't know," or at least figured it before Harry.
Yeah, we say the same stuff over and over. Like Droobs saying no one in the books supports H/Hr, Muggs had a list. Were the hell is that guy? Come back to us Muggs bring us something new to pick at over and over again.
Moon, Dan and Emma are marketable, and the hug in GoF is there because of Rita's story, it fits.

Yeah, that part annoyed me, but then it didn't, if you get what i mean. Like i wish it wern't there, but realise it'd be quite funny actualy what with Rita and all that jazz.

Also, i think Ron realised that it was Hermione. But notice Harry doesn't particualy care? Lol, not what you'd call a perfect relationship if you don't care who the heck they're with!

When I said I wouldn't be surprised if they got together, I just meant it wouldn't be out of the blue. You really can't say that there is nothing that could support H/Hr, even if it's one thing. We can hate the ship, but we can't ignore it. Do I want it to happen? Absolutely not. And I think I've made that abundantly clear in the ships threads.... And just so you understand the post I made...

However, I would wonder why so much was built up for Ron and Hermione.
Um duh? There's no way on earth that it would get that kind of build up and then they never get together. But that's for another thread.

I would wonder why Hermione and Harry never expressed any feeling for each other before book 7.
This is one of those statements where, if the 7th book revelaed it was H/Hr, I wouldn't understand why it's the way it is. No expression before that book, so what are they doing together? Right?

I would wonder why they brushed off the prospect of their relationship so easily. I would basically wonder what the point was.
First sentence, same as the above one. Last sentence...basically wondering why everything else (ship-wise) was put together only for it all to not make any sense to me in the last installment. I hope that clears my statements up a little bit. I may not be the easiest to understand, but I'd rather be confusing than one-linerish and boring to read.

So, from a H/Hr Venomer stand point, why do you think they keep putting "embraces" in the Potter movies between the two of them?

Not that I feel any Venom towards this relationship at all - more of that I can see the other side of the issue and could really care less how the relationships turn out in the end at this point (if they even do, but that's another thread altogether!) - but I think the embraces are added for two reasons.

Firstly, they serve as a veil for any action that is meant to be subtle and caught only briefly. Having real large, emotionally influenced moments does contribute very much to a particular scene of a movie, heightening viewer emotions and outlining the scene better, and this can be done in no way to imply romance - it is merely to make the scene more effective. And, by adding these moments, a director can hide any actual romance that may be going on in subtle ways, such as a jealous look from a character at the hug to other, more personal moments throughout the movie by creating a very emotionally impressionable moment to mask the touching, subtle ones. This way, a director can slowly present the romantic side and develop it without it controlling the plot, especially for an adventure/action filled movie like Harry Potter.

Secondly, Dan and Emma just have natural chemistry together - any good director can see that, and none of them would be willing to let it go to waste. Face it: they help make the money. Many fans who have only seen the movies are drawn to the Harry and Hermione relationship because the actors work so well and look so well together. (Nothing against Rupert, but it is true. I seriously have a harder time picturing him with Emma than Dan.) And, because Harry Potter does focus on the relationships of the teens in the series, what better way to make money than playing off one relationships that - in line with the first point - creates a sense of euphoria in the viewer that can mask the steady build-up of any other relationship occurring. The best relationships are the ones that develop over time (from a Romantic standpoint, that is), and having a second relationship to cover the development from being too obvious until the proper time is a plus, aided by the fact that the actors look like they are meant for each other, which is a major bonus to sales and the herring the director tries to develop.

Sorry for being a little winded there, but that is the best way I can explain the embraces of Dan and Emma as Harry and Hermione in the movie if they are not meant for a personal relationship with one another. It should also be noted that some of the embraces - such as at the end of the Chamber of Secrets - are not written into the text to begin with. I think Chamber's instance, for example, can help to cover up the extreme awkwardness of Hermione greeting Ron that follows her hug with Harry from making it too plainly obvious from the perspective of having no predisposition to either relationship, and it helps the movie focus on the main character - Harry.

So, I think the hugs are essential to the plot of the movie, even if the relationship isn't meant to be. It makes it all the more interesting, intriguing, and vexing.

Besides, what else would we have to debate then and keep us interested if both sides agreed that one relationship was final? I like to be kept guessing until the end!

Kudos!

I personally like that hug. And that's saying something as i'm a venomer H/Hr. But at that age, i think is about the time people start having crushes on one another and i think i don't mind it as such, as i know H/Hr is always going to be friends. The hug could be performed comfortably because they know they don't like each other and nothing is going to happen. The Ron handshake however is knid of the opposite. Though that's a different thread.

But I agree TheHarryinMe.



As for my opinion, i think they put them in there, because, well Dan and Emma just have good chemistry and seeing as it's there, they might as well use it. It's good to know that the directors can see that, though it don't think all the hand-holding and stuff in PoA was nesserary.



Funny, being a R/Hr shipper and all, but i have to agree with you there. Lol. They don't exactly have as much chemistry as Dan and Emma.

Wow. That was long. And well written. And it totally shuts my door!

You're right really, because in a way I think they still like to play with the two ships, whether they know which one it's going to be or not. I think it's good that they do that though so they don't make prejudices when they make the films even though they know what happens because of the books. Makes sense to me.

I do like the Chamber hug. I thought it was sweet and it's understandable because Hermione was petrified. Ron was probably still in the girls have cooties stage, or he just didn't want to hug her. Either way, it could somewhat work in either ship's favor. (Though I like to view it from my own stance. )

About Dan and Emma....I totally agree. You can't go around it really...

You really, really can't. Well I think that Dan and Emma's more that friendly feelings have faded, it's hard to ignore that they look good together. Though I can see Emma and Rupert kissing without much difficulty.
I, like the rest of you, agree with TheHarryinMe, but I have to say that the movies are more R/Hr. My sister saw PoA, this was before she cracked open any of the books, and she thought "R/Hr, no question."

That's sort of funny actually because my dad was still a bit confused about which ship it was going to be. More so after the fourth movie though. I think in the third movie he was all right, but the fourth movie switched things up. Course my mom, who hasn't watched a single Harry Potter movie all the way through, saw some of Prisoner of Azkaban one night when I was watching it, and she said Ron and Hermione. So who knows.

Personally, I still think the movies are having fun tossing around both ships. However, now that we are getting deeper into the Cho stuff with Harry, it may switch things a bit and I think they'll play more into the directions they are supposed to. Plus, if Jo has a say in it, she's not going to let them do anything crazy.

Anyway...about H/Hr. Um....*silence* I don't like it.

I've been asking everyone i can about whether they think H/Hr's going to happen and almost all have said no. Except for my dad. But then, he only read the first two books because he was in the hospital having an opperation on his knee, calls Hermione "Her-miiiiiiiii-ooooooo-neeeeee Gran-Ger!" and sings a song that goes like this:

Harrrrrrrry Potter! Harry Potter, Harry Potter-
Harrrrrrrrry Potter, Harry Pot, harry Pot, Harry Pot!

So i don't think he counts.

I agree the movies are having a bit of a muck around with the ships. "Keep the viewers on their toes about what ships going to happen" forgetting that half the people read the books and know what's going to happen (CoughnotH/Hrcough)

So hmmmm ... overall, i'm fine with the movies as i know that H/Hr is never going to happen in a million years, and they can't have it the movies and i'll be laughing when they try to find a way around it.

We all know its not H/Hr by now. JKR wouldn't suddenly put it in out of nowhere in the last book.It wouldn't make any sense!

And if she does do that I'll just rip the pages out of the book