griffi4life
Sep 9 2006, 09:27 PM
Oh my!! I was looking through wikipedia when I found a really cool part of it (confirmed scenes of Harry Potter) Potions classes, Hagrid showing everyone thestrals everything was normal until this CONFIRMED scene:
Harry walks at King's Cross Station and sees Voldemort. (This is not in the book.)
What is that about? It's definietly not in the book but it's confirmed in the movie!
hphappywriter
Sep 9 2006, 11:14 PM
Are you sure

? This seems like some person is trying to make a fool of you. It sort of sounds too dramatic to be just added I mean its not somthing small like how Hermione slapped Harry on the hand in the 3rd film when he touched the time turner.
griffi4life
Sep 10 2006, 12:10 AM
I'm sure check
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter_...nix_%28movie%29it's in the confirmed scenes!
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pettigrew
Sep 10 2006, 05:24 AM
im the book, harry feels voldemort watching him, so perhaps this is just to show how voldemort is always there. personally i think it is cool. in the sset report from today, it said a hidden character, thought to be voldemort, was walked through. white hair was seen. i think it would be fitting for voldemort to have grown hair while becoming more human. how about you?
Capricorn
Sep 10 2006, 08:40 AM
Ah well, perhaps the double on the set was just visiting.

(Ralph Fiennes wasn't there himself). Or perhaps Harry just imagines seeing him. That's make sense... sort of. It's like the idea of Voldemort alive again haunts him, so he sees him everywhere just to realise it's not him. Departure from the books, no doubt, but maybe it's to fill the gap of Rita Skeeter not being there. Maybe they want the idea that Harry is mad to come across. Yeah, that's the sort of brainless thing WB would do... sigh.
Enough_space
Sep 10 2006, 12:53 PM
I don't thik the scene's gonna be that important, it's probably just to show that Harry thinks about Voldemort or something... But I saw another thing, Peeves is going to be in the movie!!! I've missed him really much in the movies so I think that's brilliant!
etphonehome
Sep 10 2006, 03:36 PM
Actually, Matthew who has been on the set of Ootp, told us last week that he watched this scene at Kings Cross. So had you read his report , you wouldn't have had to go onto wikipedia to find out...you'd have had it from the best VTM source there is. (shame on you Capricorn!!)
Now as to what this scene is actually representing I think Capricorn is right on that count.
Divaforever
Sep 10 2006, 03:47 PM
I think it will be a bit too dramatic.I mean,it's too early a scene to show Voldemort,that too in a over-crowded railway station.I thought hwe will be shown at almost the end..appearing at the Ministry in a majestic way!
But if it is confirmed,then I guess that i have to trust David Yates' directind capabilities and contend that Yates has the best intentions for the movie in his heart.
Louise
Sep 10 2006, 04:54 PM
Yes, I have to agree. Too overly dramatic, too early in the film. I would much rather have seen Sirius as a dog, Malfoy noticing him...you know. Far more interesting to me, but I guess they obviously think it'll be more dramatic their way. I guess that means they've cut the whole Malfoy winding Harry up over it bit too.
Oh dear....I knew there were going to be changes, but why have they always got to change the good stuff? And then leave boring, pointless plotlines like flippin' Grawp in?
I really don't understand WB sometimes. *sigh*
etphonehome
Sep 10 2006, 05:03 PM
just wanted to apologise for my previous post...I came across a tad obnoxious.
Anyhow this is so annoying, why do this. The book is so long and they're cutting out great chunks of it that we love and then putting something that's not even in there. I'm sure it's has to be something about Harry imagining that he can see him or in some way, the film makers are going to relate it to him being able to see what LV is doing. But like the title of this thread says...Something Isn't Right!!
Loony_Hufflepuff
Sep 10 2006, 06:59 PM
Wait, what? No. No. No. No. That is way to dramatic, and it doesn't even happen in the books! >_< Keep something that is in the books, like Sirius as a dog and Malfoy noticing that or something. But Harry seeing Voldemort at King's Cross? No!
Uhm, yeah. I don't like that, and it doesn't even seem possible. I think Voldemort would stay in hiding, wouldn't he? Not being out and about and getting on a train to see the coast and get a bit of sun, right? That's just way too out of character. *sigh* This isn't right, I agree with the title...
It'll be interesting how it turns out though. Here's to hoping it may get cut out during the editing process, but I somehow doubt it. :\
rosacooper44
Sep 19 2006, 02:05 PM
i know!!!!! its really stupid, hes seeing voldemort at the station, and there's no quidditch but the will be 'weasly is our king'!!!!! how confusing... i think i need a lie down....
-ginny-da-cat-
Sep 29 2006, 07:24 PM
i don't like it when people add things into the films that are realy big like that i mean if harry does see voldermort then isnt it like realy that if the ministry can't find him and the book states he is hiding right up to the end of the book, i hope it isnt in the film!
Ginny16
Sep 29 2006, 10:07 PM
I also heard that its a confirmed scene, but why? and i do wish that they had quidditch....*sigh*
writer101
Oct 4 2006, 09:37 PM
I know! I'm looking down the list and I'm seeing 2 or 3 scenes that weren't in the book... that one, and something about Hermione blasting Ron into a wall. I mean, if they have enough space to put in extra scene that weren't in the book, they should use them to put Quidditch in! I'm still seething over that...
razzberry2
Oct 5 2006, 11:19 AM
ET was right in the fact that Matthew reported this weeks ago. Good that its been brought up though.
Call me an optimist, but I don't think we should grumble too much about what they've added just yet. In the book, JK can write so much into each senario that the film makers can't possibly translate word for word, so they have to come up with other ways of getting the full picture across.
When you think about it, we finally got our first glimpse of the actual Voldemort near the end of movie four and it makes sense that they would introduce him early into the film to keep the very real threat of the Dark Lord alive. (we are talking visual story telling here) Especially in OOTP.
Maybe its not wise to sling too much mud before we see the finished product. Give the film makers a bit of credit or you may end up spoiling the experience for yourself.
XxCeliaxX
Oct 7 2006, 09:46 PM
I hate it when they completly make up scenes like in GOF when snape keeps hitting harry and ron on the head because they keep talking, that was totaly made up AND took ages, they could have put loads more stuff in that space of time. But thats only a small thing they made up, Harry seeing Voldemort! thats massive! i'm annoyed now, their stupid for putting that in
After the Burial
Oct 9 2006, 02:15 AM
I am surprised to hear that. It seems we are seeing the books diverge from the movies even more. I read about other scenes that have been added. I admit, it makes me more interested in the movie.
MIKOH
Oct 9 2006, 09:02 PM
that's officially insanity!
it can't be lord voldemort in king's cross, what's he doing in a train station anyway?
or is he getting a bit of sun because his hear growing shampoo needs sun to activate.
anyway he must look a bit socially acceptable to be in a train station because that hideous punk we call voldemort can't be accepted normally in a public place like that.
and in previous books and even movies when we see voldemort it's either in the end of the book or in very creepy circumstances but they can't make a train station dramatic or creepy whatever they do:
in book one we see voldemort in the very end of the book.
book 2: we see him yet again in the very end.
book 4:we see him once and hear him twice and the one time we see him is at the end of the book and the two times we hear him are in dreams.
book 5: we were supposed to see him twice; once in the department of mysteries in harry's dream when he looks at the mirror and the other in the ministry of magic when he is duelling voldemort, but this seeing him in king's cross this is as i said before officially insanity, lol.
rosacooper44
Oct 11 2006, 01:09 PM
Actually, i think i agree with Razzberry 2. J.K. writes so much about something that the writers of the ootp movie can't possibly fit it all in. I remember reading in another forum that if they included quidditch and other stuff, the film would probablly have been about 8 hours long. And obviously they cant do that.
I now think that Voldemort appearing at the station might be quite a good idea. It means like that from the start that Voldemort is back and as scary as ever
After the Burial
Oct 13 2006, 04:49 AM
There are two unexpected scenes in my mind. The Voldemort at the train is up there. The other is Hermione blasting Ron for making a sexist comment. Why does this need to be in the movie?
Nymphadora_Tonks
Oct 16 2006, 07:27 PM
All the movies are weird, there made to give the main idea of whats happening in the books and to show people, who are to lazy to read the books or people who are obsessed with Harry Potte, whats really going on. All the movies add stupid things, to prove a point because maybe the way J.K. Rowling expressed it was too long for a movie. In the 5th movie there cutting the Kinght Bus scene (right after Christmas) which I think is stupid for 2 reasons 1) THATS LUPIN AND TONKS! 2)The way Tonks acts in that whole scene really brings out some of the fear of all the people around Harry have. That's one scene I think is stupid to cut, but the Harry seeing Voldy, I think thats just retared! In the 5th book Voldy is given everything to win the war (:[) most of the wizarding world doesnt believe he's back! So now in the middle of a giant crowd they think its realistic if he's just standing there, like giving himself away!? Um...... no, I dont think thats very smart, I dont like how there doing some of the movie, with some of the scenes, but I'm sure the movie will be fine, because Tonks and Lupin are in it..... it will be wonderful!
morsmordre
Oct 19 2006, 02:53 AM
Wikipedia isn't always a good source for things... on the site, anyone is allowed to add or change information, so it could quite possibly be someone adding it in as a joke
hpatootp
Oct 19 2006, 05:02 AM
QUOTE(morsmordre @ Oct 19 2006, 07:53 AM) [snapback]243030[/snapback]
Wikipedia isn't always a good source for things... on the site, anyone is allowed to add or change information, so it could quite possibly be someone adding it in as a joke
It agree.... Probably someone very much loves jokes....
MIKOH
Oct 20 2006, 10:25 PM
if you looked carefully for the resource where wikipedia got that information from you will find they didn't make it up they got it from none else than our beloved veritaserum in the news section reported my matthew so it's not someone on wikipedia trying to make a joke if anyone is trying to make a joke then it is mathew who i highly doubt he might make something like that.
maximgaia
Oct 22 2006, 04:55 PM
hey everyone this is my first post so stay with me. I just read through this whole thread and one thing that I noticed is that just becuase we can see LV doesn't mean that everyone at the train station can. We are seeing it from Harry' point of view so maybe only harry can see him or it is just Harry thinking he can see him.
trinigeeise 4 lyfe
Oct 31 2006, 01:15 AM
I agree and think that David Yates meant it so that only Harry is seeing LV or just imagining it to show how Harry feels and how dark and scary everything seems with LV on the loose.
demondeathkitty
Oct 31 2006, 01:25 AM
peeves is going to be in there dude if he's going to be in it they could have put in the Quidditch. gosh quidditch is the best beside Wood not going to be in it.
potter's_gurl
Nov 2 2006, 01:29 AM
holy crud! i hate this director! he's totally changeing everything first no house elfs then no quidittch wizard chases in lodon and then NOW this! i hate this dude! maybe it was an err or something or maybe harry imagains it lets hope it was a misprint eh? besides im sures it is a lie that site isn't the best in the world it's not a harry potter site sure it has some stuff on it but it's not like muggle net or VTM
Spencer Potter
Nov 2 2006, 01:32 AM
Hmm this does seem weird? Harry seeing Voldie at Kings Cross? That just confuses the story, but besides... Ron getting blasted through a wall by Hermione, that seems wicked. Something wicked is coming out way people.
Moon(I luv you Luna)
Nov 13 2006, 03:40 AM
I totaly agree with Potters_gurl! The directors either compleatly mad, or hasn't read the books and insist on doing it his way!
I saw this too and almost scared myself to death!
What are they playing at?
Lets hope it's something like Harry (How you all know is having Voldemort going all mind-tappy on harry's dreams) thinks is going mental because he's seeing Dumbledore everywhere?
Lets hope so!
Padfoot_Snuffles361
Nov 13 2006, 04:47 AM
No. Freaking. Way.
WHY DO THEY RUIN ALL OF THEM? THE FIRST TWO ARE THE ONLY GOOD ONES! ARRRGHGHHHHH!!!!!!
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slytherin_xo
Nov 13 2006, 09:13 PM
there HAS to be a mistake! that makes NO sense WHATSOEVER! urrrrgh, i cant believe it. why would they do something like that!?
Aguamenti353
Nov 14 2006, 09:04 PM
Wait....am I correct in saying that there's not going to be Quidditch in the fifth movie? When did that happen? Well if thats true then it stinks Quidditch is always my favorite part. But about the whole Voldemort thing...yeah I agree with some of the others, maybe only Harry can see him or thinks he can see him...or maybe not. Maybe he's really there but of course Muggles don't recognize him and he's probably disguised. I don't think he'd go galavanting around in pure daylight. And did they ever specify if it was on Platform 9 and 3/4 that Harry saw him or just at the train station? Because I can't see Voldemort wandering around on Platform 9 and 3/4 too risky with all those wizards. But maybe at the entrance...
DracosLady
Nov 14 2006, 09:31 PM
No unfortunately Augamenti there will be no Quidditch in OOtP, it's a shame isn't it? Cause in the book at the Quidditch game Gryffindor vs Slytherin, Harry and George beat the tar out of Draco *sighs*
The scene with Voldy being seen at the train station, I'm not for sure if that is actually him that Harry sees or if it is perhaps a dream that harry ahs where he sees Voldy at the train station, it will be interesting to see what it really means. But yeah how could Voldy openly walk around the train station without being recognized by wizards such as Mad Eye Moody? It's really weird!
hp1
Nov 19 2006, 02:02 AM
wait! how is there going to be no quidditch in the movie? isn't it a big thing that ron joins the team and so does ginny later on when harry is banned from the team? man, thats a dissapointment. but for harry seeing voldemort at kings cross station...thats just realllly weird. the only reason i can think of them including this is that harry sees vodemort for a second, but its not really voldemort. its really its his imagination still haunting him from watching voldemort return that night in the graveyard. so voldemort is not really there, its just harry imagining it. thats the only reason i can come up with for the director including this scene.
fastboy21
Nov 19 2006, 06:11 AM
you do realize that wikipedia is open ended, and anyone could just log into it and change the so-called confirmed scenes information to anything they wanted, right?
anyways...
whenever you are converting a 700+ page book into a 2-hour screen play there have to be sacrifices. if its done intelligently the plot will be preserved, but you can't possibly hope for every element of the book (even the major ones; like quidditch) to necessarily make it into the movie.
some fans will be dissapointed, but to be honest, i just want the movies to be good. i wouldn't mind a hugely extended version (kinda like they did for the LOTR movies), but i understand that the average person going to see the movie (ie, not the ppl generally on these forums) doesn't want to sit through 3:30 hours of movie.
in any case, i wouldn't put too much stock in any "confirmed scenes" list just yet. only go by the official websites, and what they release for us to see (like the trailers).
has anyone actually SEEN any image showing the OP's description? i'm not saying its not in the movie, it might be...i'm just saying that there is a whole lot of "official" stuff that turns out to just be internet rumors concerning HP stuff; there has been for all the other movies and the books as well, so beware.
craZfroggy
Nov 20 2006, 09:22 PM
the reason is because the directors of the movies are slow. they dont seem do get it.
half the people who watch their movies have also read the books and they would like to see the movie that goes with the books!!!!!!!!! i mean, it's ok just to change some small details, but for the most part, they need to make the movies just like the books. they should at least have enough common sense to KNOW (if not do something about it) that because so many people are buying the books, they must be good. So if they would make the movies like the books, THEY WOULD BE GOOD TOO!!! they make me so mad sometimes.
the_one_to_watch
Nov 22 2006, 12:09 PM
Gosh, I cant believe how many people are unhappy about the way the movies are interpreted from the books. And most of those people are impatient whilst waiting for the films to be released!
It takes over
11 months to film! If it were just like the books it would take twice as long. Which means it would take twice as long to be released. Which means the actors would be growing 2 years older over a period of one Hogwarts School Year! The filming process is long, hard and unfair. Cut the film-makers some slack...
at least they're doing the movies! Be grateful there's something to see!
Also, craZfroggy, it'm sure it's not the director who sorts out the schedules and lists of what is filmed and when. It's not the director who schedules what date a certain set needs to be built by. The director doesnt delay sceduling. I'm not 100% sure what he does (

) ...but I'm just trying to say that its not totally his fault that the movies arent
exactly like the books!
Sorry to be an arse but I had to get that off my chest!

I'm done now!
completely_mental
Nov 26 2006, 08:43 AM
OK. jst lyk to add that its a directors job to use CREATIVITY (sorri for bad spelling) in movies.its stated that the 3 and 4th movies are directed by a different person than the 1st and seccond. DUH! maybe Wikkapiedia is rong anyway. why stress ova if harry see LV at Kings Cross? jst be happy to watch the movie - although it may suck a little with out quidditch i -a gurl- am happy jst to watch Dan Lol.
dracoharryluver
Nov 26 2006, 11:50 PM
Um...... WHAT? Voldie.... Kings Cross. Confusing much? That isn't cool. THat kinda isn't in the book. interesting. Hmmm.
trevors_protector
Dec 3 2006, 12:23 AM
i imagine when harry is walking in king's cross, he see's vodie walkin by, and for a second they both look at each other, and the next second voldies GONE..
SlytherinHeadGirl05
Dec 3 2006, 01:20 AM
Okay the thing about voldemort being at Kings Cross does kind of make sense. It could be him (daniel/harry) thinking about Voldemort and it just shows him there. harry paranoid or something like that you know? I'm going to think that and i'm praying that Wiki is wrong on some of these things. oh and by the way the ones that VISUALIZE things and puts the books into movie format is the screenwriter and to let you know on that page with all this info it says that The screenwriter is Michael Goldenberg,replacing Steve Kloves who wrote the screenplays for the first four films. THIS might be the reason for the SUDDEN changing of everything. i know GoF i was a bit of a dramatic change but i'm still upset..it seems to me that they're adding TOO many scenes into OotP all of a sudden. but in my opinion I LOVED the scenes they added into GoF they were hilarious. In the end when i see the movies i clear my mind of the books and watch it as if i've never read the books. I have two ways of watching a movie and i try not to get mad when i go see the movie or the enjoyment of seeing the movie is gone!!!!! *sighs* i still think OotP is going to be the best! Who agrees PoA was the worse?
These are the things that kind of make me want to scream.
Marietta E.(cut?) - okay i had a funny feeling she was going to be cut anyway. I really did. so there's not going to be a shock for me if she's not in it. if she's not in it the only thing i'll be disappointed about is we don't get to see hermione's cleverness with her jinxed parchment!
Fletcher (cut?) - this kind of worries me. well only a bit. i wanted to see him in their because in the HBP he nicks stuff from Grimmauld Place and the theories i've read the stuff he stole might be important *sighs* i don't know what to think about him being cut....*sighs*
Bill Weasley (cut?) - THIS really upset me. they can NOT cut bill out!!! he plays a bit of an important part in this movie AND then look what happens in the 6th movie or suppose to! o.o how are they going to explain fleu and bill suddenly coming together in the 6th movie.....are they going to introduce him in the 6th movie then?!?? arrrrrrrr this irritated me, one of the things that did that is.
McGonagall's recovery, where she is in a wheelchair. <--- that scene just doesn't agree with me. it makes her sound like she was almost killed! she was weak and injured yes, BUT look how she came back? strong and as stern as ever lol. so yeah...they shouldn't of changed how she came back *sighs*
Peeves - THIS IS ONE THING I HOPE WITH ALL MY MIGHT IS TRUE! just to hear fred and george say their famous line "Give her hell from us, Peeves" would make me VERY HAPPY! ^.^ lol
Harry's interview with Rita Skeeter in the Quibbler. (Presumed to the exclusion of Miranda Richardson, who played Skeeter in Goblet of Fire, in the film.) <----- I SCREAMED AT THAT PART!!!! *growls* i have no comment to make cuz all i'm doing right now is swearing under my breath XD lol
Drinotonks
Dec 15 2006, 04:56 AM
Hm I think that although it says this is a scene it doesn't mean that Voldemort is acutally there, it mightn't be that bad, remember in a film if someone dreams they see someone then the actor has to be there in real life but on the scree you don't knw what happns beofre or after so it could very well be Harry seeing things or something similar and could work quite well, not to mention it be be an insignificant scene if he mentioned it to Ron but then upon looking back realising it was just some man in a cloak for example.
But trevors_protector I do like the idea that one minute he's there and then he's gone that would leave you wondering if it was true or Harry was imagining.
LittleHermoineGranger
Dec 17 2006, 06:08 AM
when i first heard this i was like whoah! but then i read the whole thread and some of you guys may have a ponit.it may be good seeing harry's mind fool him. but what makes me mad is that they may cut out quttich! can someone please confirm this with me. did you only see that at this site cause it's open ended. Cause if they did i will never see a harry potter flim ever again.....(ok maybe i will 
)
Drinotonks
Dec 17 2006, 06:48 AM
Sorry little HermioneGranger but quiddich won't be in it, there's actually a really good and long discussion about it in a thread titled no weasley is our king? but pretty sure it won't be appearing - along with that beloved line.
amanda1212
Dec 17 2006, 10:41 PM
I trust wikipedia most of the time, but it is a known fact that if you have an account there, you can edit the information so it doesnt mean that it is totally true. If it is I do agree that it could be his imagination and him visualizing Voldemort being there, even if he really isnt. He was just tramatized after seeing Voldemort return I think that, that is normal, and I think that was a good thing to play up on ..
Chillaine
Jan 9 2007, 09:49 PM
It is rather peculiar, but I believe it very possible, although I wouldn't be shocked if its an illsion. Wikipedia, however, has my full confidence as I have never found any phony information there before...not to mention the fact I have read this thing about Voldemort at Kings Cross Station on other Harry Potter Sites.
SITH|Redskin
Jan 9 2007, 10:35 PM
I have also heard that this is true from other sources. My guess is that it is a illusion or just a rumor going around that has just been made into such a big deal.
It makes no sense for Voldemort to go and reveal himself at Kings Cross Station when he wouldnt even go himself to retrieve the prohecy, so that makes absoutley no sense.
Another possibility could be that someone ment Lucious Malfoy and they said Voldemort. I think i remember Lucious being there and then they made such a big deal about how he saw Sirius.
Dunno, and dont care, as long as movie is still on time and not to odd.
-----SITH-----
Packers
Jan 23 2007, 11:26 AM
since wikipiedia is run and added by people like you or me it is impossible to tell if they are correct. JKR did not add this. still this is intersesting, i do not like it
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