Here are the facts:

1. He teaches in a dungeon.

2.Snape's hair is greasy maybe it's a special cream that lets him go outside.

3.Dean said maybe next year we'll get a vampire teacher.

4.THIRD MOVIE- Snape closed the curtains on Lupin's class.

5.Lupin did a comeback to Snape's werewolf essay putting them a vampire essay.

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This is just my fantasy. Tell me what u think.

Mmm...I've read quite a few people's theories on why they think Snape is a vampire and to be honest, I can, for the most part, see their points. But I've also heard a lot of the counter arguments to them too though which made me think....

1. Most people don't seem to make much of a big deal about his teaching in the dungeon really, mainly because he doesn't really want to be there. He wants to teach DADA which is in quite a light, airy room (at least in the films, I guess...who knows what it's really supposed to be like?). I personally am inclined to believe the counter arguments there....maybe that's just where 'Potions' is taught...**shrugs**

2. A lot of people have latched on to his greasy hair too. Even my mom, who is just as big a HP fan as me (although not quite as crazy.. ) pointed out the number of times that JKR refers to Snape's hooked nose, sallow skin and greasy hair, thinking that there must be something in it. However, if you look at her character descriptions in general, JKR varies very little in how she describes everyone...Lucius and Draco have been described loads of times as having 'cold eyes', 'long, pale, pointed' faces and so on...and there's Hagrid's 'beetle black eyes', Snape's 'tunnel' like eyes and so on.... I just think that his greasy hair and sallow skin just emphasise the type of personality he has....

3. Now that point...yeah....that's a good one. I've just finished PoA myself and I thought that there must be something there.... But having said that, I think that there are just too many inconsistencies really to say that Snape is actually a vampire. My personal theory about that (I posted it over in LupinLand in the Lounge, if anyon'es interested) is a slight variation in suggesting that Snape might possibly be an animagus that can become a vampire bat....which also links in with your 5th point about Lupin's setting a vampire essay. Yeah...that was weird too, particularly as vampires weren't meant to be covered until later in the year. I thought that maybe Lupin was a bit more subtle than that...he's a very clever guy...Hermione would have seen straight through that....but skirting around the issue of his being a vampire bat...well...that seems more in line with Lupin's mindset...at least for me anyway.

4. You know, so many people found it strange that Snape closed the shutters in that scene in PoA....thats been one of the main arguments for why Snape must be a vampire. But anyone who has ever had a Powerpoint presentation or used a projector will know that you have to pull the drapes or else there's too much light and you can't see what's on the screen. Snape was using a projector in that lesson, hence he closed the blinds. There's nothing strange or sinister in that...it's just something that people do....

5...Think I covered that in 3...

Besides, there are many other things about vampires....they have to rest in their native soil, the only vampire who could ever go out in daylight was Count Dracula himself, they have to have regular supplies of human blood (where would Snape be getting that?), they're afraid of garlic and crucifixes, certain animals, they get on well with 'dark' creatures such as wolves....none of these things have ever been particularly apparent with Snape. Unless you count the turban Quirrell wore that stunk of garlic....but I think that was more to do with LV than anything else.....

I do agree that Snape isn't everything he appears to be....I just don't think he's a vampire.....(might be a vampire bat though... ....Ooh...all my fellow SPELL'ers are going to be calling me some names now.....)

I forgot that when Harry went to Hogsmeade, on Honeydukes Ron and hermione were looking at some blood candy.

I think Snape could be an animagus!!!!!!!!!

Somehow I just don't think that Snape can be a vampire. All of Dana_Scully's arguments make sense to me, and to add on to what she said about Snape closing the windows in "Prisoner of Azkaban," I don't think we can really make judgements about what's going to happen in the books based on the movies. True, J.K. Rowling has a lot of influence where the script is concerned, but I think that reading into simple stage directions too much won't get us very far...

Additionally, I think it is incredibly unlikely that two of Harry's teachers turn out to be part-humans (i.e. both Lupin and Snape). Similarly, I don't think that Crookshanks can be an Animagus because Scabbers was one. How coincidential would it be if both Hermione's and Ron's pets turned out to be wizards? If this were the case, I'd almost go so far as to say that J.K. Rowling was running out of original ideas.

However, some of hermioneluvsron's points are very interesting... particularly the one where Lupin talked about a vampire essay, which is an idea that I have never heard of before. I wonder how the blood-flavored lollipops that Ron and Hermione were examining could have anything to do with Snape?

I'm pretty sure that in an online chat somewhere JK said that Snape was not a vampiire to her knowledge, so my guess is that he isnt a vampire, I also think that they is a lot of proof againist the "snape is a vampire" theory (like Dana and all yall said)
But I am starting to believe Dana's animagus theory!

Ooh yeah. she did, didn't she?! I'd forgotten about that.....

Oh well....anyway...**dances around gleefully** I'm so pleased that I haven't had things thrown at me for suggesting the animagus thing again!!

I do agree with Anthony to an extent too though. When I was considering the animagus theory, one of the main things I had against it was the fact that JKR has done that routine before...I didn't think she's make another character an animagus, but then she went and made Rita Skeeter a bug! Go figure..... So, if she's willing to use the same idea twice in PoA and GoF, there might as well be a third time, hey?

Yeah Dana,
I always pictured Snape as sneaking around lurking about where he isnt supposed to be, spying and such, so your theory works right in. As for her using the whole animagus thing again, yeah 3 times is a lot (I was surprised she used Rita right after the whole Wormtail thing) but what is it they say? Third times the charm, right?

this may sound funny.......but maybe he is a vampire.....

dumbeldore has had a wolf, centur , and a half-giant , as well as a ghost who taught or is still teaching......who knows maybe he couls be a vampire......

sorry flygal, but i dont think he is. because well, if JK says that he isnt then I'm pretty sure I believe her and Snape isnt a vampire. But hey, thats just my opinion!

That's bad I really thought he could be a vampire, though I'm not letting out 'my Vampire-Snape-issue'.

OH WELL.......................

I AM THE WORLD'S BIGGEST IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!

I am soooooo sorry, that i posted this JkRowling said that he isn't a vampire nor does he have to do anything with vampires.....

hermioneluvsron, stop beating your self up about this stuff okay. Everyone makes wrong theories sometimes, its just a part of life (or at least HP life). So just chill out, turn off the caps key and stop beating yourself up about all of this. alright?

EDIT: I just realized this post made me a 2nd year, YaY!

BUT, if JKR never said it, it could've been a possibility. xD

I just really don't think Snape could be a vampire. It just has too many problems with it (the theories). I agree with Dana's points earlier. Especially about the blinds. I thought the reason he was closing them was fairly obvious. lol.

Much as I like Vampires (especially Anne Rice's vamps, which don't have to rest in their native soil, or are afraid of crosses or garlic and can see themselves in mirorrs, but I digress) Much as I like them I don't think dear old Snape is one, but I do like the theory that he could be an animagus. That's cool.

I'm beating myself up, because its true JKR told that Snape had nothing to do with vampires....

of well snape being woulnd be cool but JK said no vampires,but Dana i agree with you about the animagus we will what snape is hideing sooner or later

I have seen very good cluse and ideas about snape being a vampire or a half-vampire, but i cannot convince myself that he is on. Although his descriptions matches a real vampire.

You know, JKR certainly does seem to mention vampires an awful lot, doesn't she? CoS, PoA, GoF.......and she did that with werewolves just before introducing Lupin. Maybe someone is going to turn out to be a vampire after all......I'm still very suspicious of Lupin's motivations in setting that essay though....I just can't see him being so obvious about it. He's far more shrewd than that....

That's why I'm sticking more to the Snape is a bat thing.....for now....

dana i agree with you sooooooo much!
did she ever say he was not a vampire......?

Yeah Flygal, she said so in an online chat (or maybe it was an interview, but I'm sticking with it being a chat. Either way, she said it)
I agree Dana, and I'm starting toi believe your Snape is a bat thoery (I guess I've heard it so many times!)

Yes, she's said that Snape isn't a vampire...which is why I keep banging on about the slightly different bat theory... ....but she never said that someone else might turn out to be a vampire.....and there certainly is a lot of mentioning about vampires done....Filch, maybe? Lucius Malfoy? (He's definitely the type) Or maybe the next DADA teacher? (Although that one is probably less likely....she's done that with Lupin before....)

well i have a question for anybody to answer. does any one think that Snape loved Lily? that is just what i heard in the chatroom and i think that it might be true and thats why he dispises harry as much as he does i mean it makes sense tho doesn't it? but i don't know i don't think that this is the right place to ask this question or not but i think that someone will be able to answer this question for me at some point in time. oh and just to stay on the topic i have doubts about weather he is a vampire or not but that would be cool if he was. lol

MOD EDIT : Please don't use netspeak. I've explained why in the other post I just corrected for you.

No, I'm afraid this isn't the place for that discussion.

This topic hasn't been active for a while, so you're welcome to post there if you want to. There are quite a few people around here who I think you'll find will agree with you..

For now, can I ask that we please keep the discussions in this thread centred more on the vampire business....(even though I think we're pretty much exhausted it, but hey-ho...it's always good to have some new input... )

I know that if JKR said that he isn't a vampire then he isn't a vampire. another thing to think about that would have agreed with the vampire theory is the prank with the marauders on Snape.

I f snape would have been killed by Lupin because he's a werewolf, then maybe we should ask why wouldn't he have just become a werewolf.

My thoughts are that vampires die from a werewolf bite but everyone else becomes a werewolf. So, if Snape would've died then wouldn't that point to him being a Vampire?

What about that theory

Snape wasn't bitten by Lupin. JKR, tends to follow mythology with some of her things, (centaurs, werewolves, etc) if she followed myth of vampires, Snape wouldn't be in sunlight.

I never said that snape was bitten by Lupin. I said that if snape was bitten by Lupin it would have killed him rather than make him a werwolf.

That aside, I agree that JKR doesn't always use the same mythological rules as we see them in many works of literature.
However she does follow some rules in many things as well, For example to become a werewolf you must be bitten by a werewolf, JKR follows the same rules in the Harry Potter books as in other works of literature.

Snape, a Vampire…how many times have we all hear this…ok Vampires don’t have a reflection…and remember when Snape was reflected in the “Foe Glass”…um…that would speculate that he has one a reflection.
Ok another thing, Vampires, they do something called repose, which isn’t a true sleep, during the day and are up all night…but we see Snape in that very stylish grey night shirt don’t we?
Ok I don’t know what book it was, think it was the 4th and Percy says something about stamping out of vampires “Guidelines for the Treatment of Non-Wizard Part-Humans” (Aka Vamps) so if a vampire is Non-wizard…and Snape a wizard…then he cant be a vamp…

Hum…I must admit, the idea of Snape’s animagus…a bat…could be interesting, there again have we ever had our Harry spot any bats…I don’t think so

Well what ever he is…he’s hot! And I love him for it!

Hopefully all our mysteries will be found out in the next 2 books…I swear they bloody better be…its killing me!“Toni”

Um, when you guys mentioned the part in the third movie where he closes the curtains... I am pretty certain that his reasons were completely based on the fact that with darkness he could use the projector (for his lesson) properly.

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Anyway, Snape would make a great vampire! Severus Snape, my favourite Vampire...sweet.

well maybe he is this must sound real funny but some fof the reasons arepointing to him saying hes a vampire.

Tehehe! I read a Harry Potter in the Sims fanfic where Snape was a vampire, oh this is funny!

He sure acts like it, but Jo wouldn't do such a thing, even if he is evil! I got no proof, just opinion!

but maybe, for her, a vampire is not very nasty? I heard Snape was a vampire many times too and, to my mind it seems a correct theory

i was thinking is snape could be an animagus too, why not a bat? there's some clues in the books

He seems to be the Animagus that would skulk around... appear out of no where... how bout a cat?

Now I'm getting off topic. Anyway... I wasn't saying vampires aren't good! In his case... eh... that was wat I was directing it to...

And if Snape was a vampire, he would want to do detention...

And then our voices must turn to a quote in reference by Dean Thomas... and Seamus Finnigan...

"Wonder what they'll give us next year?" said Seamus gloomily.
"Maybe a vampire," suggested Dean hopefully.
I'm taking this quote as a joke in the book... lol

mmm, snape a cat! ^^ it's funny but, why not
there's too: Harry and Ron had said, book4
"If Snape hadn't held me up, Harry said bitterly [...]
D'you reckon he could've beaten you and Dumbledore there?
"Not unless he can turn himself into a bat or something" said Harry (chapter 25)
jk hasn't said snape isn't a vampire, she just said "i'm afraid that no" or something like this, she lets us believe







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"she's an awful woman said Hermione in a small voice [...] we've got to do something about her"
"I suggested poison" said Ron grimly

Ooh, that's the quote I was looking for!!! I came up with a 'Snape is a vampire bat' theory a while ago...think I posted it in the Lupinland thread...can't remember now, it was ages ago...it's around here somewhere....but I was saying how many times something that Harry says flippantly turns out to be true, one of them possibly being that Snape actually can turn into a bat.

I could hear the giggles from all the way over here.... ....but I still stand by it....I do think Snape's a vampire bat.....

Snape can't be a vampire in my opinoin. On JKR's site, there was a question that said "Is there any connection between Snape and vampires?" Her reply was "I don't think so"

I think it is possible that Snape is a animagi though. I read a great editorial and it has so many clues that point to that snape was the spider in GoF

Yippee!! Another convert to the Snape as an animagus theory!! **tee hee** (I know you're not really a convert, but it makes me feel better to say it so.... )

Wednesday, I absolutely love that sig....

Alright, I know I'm double posting....but it has been a month and I have something new to say, so

I was watching SS/PS again yesterday and you know the bit where McGonagall sees Harry catching the Remembral and then takes him to see Wood? You know Wood's in Quirrell's class?

Well....if you listen very carefully to what Quirrell says before McGonagall interupts him, he's talking about something being an 'essential ingredient' in something or other...and then when she finishes talking him, he carries on and says something about 'a vampire bat'.....

I know this is an horrendous leap, coincidence and everything else and probably means absolutely nothing at all, but being the sad and rather excitable person that I am (shut up, you lot...I can hear the snickers from here.... ) I was just wondering if the 'potions' and the 'bat' link there may have been just a touch of foreshadowing, you know? Particularly as Quirrell didn't particularly like Snape...and he did get the DADA position over him.....

More evidence!!! Even Quirrell was trying to say that Snape's a bat!!! **tee hee**

**desperately hoping that no one will notice how much I'm scrabbling around for needles in haystacks**

i think he may be a animagus of a bat and thats where you get all the vampire relations

Erm.....wasn't that was I just said?

hahaha....

i love that idea Dana...it would explain alot. it could be, like you said, a coincidence, there again JKR may of asked for that to be put in there.
i am guessing there are much more of these Animagus's then on record, it musn't be that hard to become one in that case, i wonder if thats somthing Harry and Ron might try?
the thing is, getting back to Snape. have we ever come across a "Bat" in the story? i sure dont remember reading about one, and never has a bat gone past and 2 mins later Snape appearing...its a sticky subject i belive that is just going round and round in circles.

i sure hope JKR tells us soon.

Toni

i think he is half vampire....

proffesor Quirrell could have just been going over what he had been doing over the summer since he did go vampire hunting and it was the first couple of days of school but why would quirrell be saying anything about snape being a vampire when he was being controlled by voldemort but we dont know what V. and snapes relation after all the death eaters had gone to Azkaban. also does it say when quirrel started to be controlled by V. cause the vampire hunting could have been a total hoax for something else.

Although Snape may not be a vampire (Hermione would have figured it out ages ago!) i think he must be hiding somthing really big. This could relate to why he is so intrested in the dark arts, maybe hes suffering from some (as yet unmentioned) dark arts ailment which would explain his how do you say 'unplesent nature' and apparent self loathing (which we, in my opinion see in his pensive, his angry father, James humiliating him). Thus the intrest in the dark arts Snape shows, may be a personal one, in a search to either get rid of this hypothetical ailment, or to maybe harness some dark arts gift Snape has and so become more powerful.

I thought that JK rowling said that Snape wasn't a vampire. Correct me if i'm wrong.

I'm not saying I agree that Snape is a vampire. To point something out: The part in the movie SS/PS where McGonnagal gets Oliver Wood to tell him that Harry is the new seeker...when they're leaving his classroom, the last thing heard is something about vampire bats.

Yup, I know.... That's what I said here a couple of months ago...

Nice to know that someone else spotted that too though...

If Snape is a vampire it would maybe make him the HBP, perhaps Voldemort promised to cure him of it but he lied to Snape to win his support.

When Snape realized this he ran to Dumbledore who helped him perhaps by giving him a temporary cure.

Snape does sneak around in CoS a bit but may not be a vampire? If he was it would explain his unhappy childhood with his father being so angry with him for being a vampire?