I don't know... Yes, she would sacrifice herself for Ron, I know that... I just meant that I think Ron will be the one to sacrifice himself for her in DH if a situation like that should occur. Sorry, I didn't express myself properly

How I imagine Ron and Hermione getting together is that Rom will as her to the wedding, it will be bumbling, but I think he'll pluck up the courge, and I kind or think that when Hermione figures out what he's trying to ask she'll say "If it helps Ron, that question you want to ask, the answer is 'yes,'" and then he asks, and they go. There they'll kiss, but not say I love you. I think we will hear them say the words, but probally in the least romantic place you can think of.

I agree i dont mean to sound totally negative but if ron dose die i imgaine hermione will be with him and right before he dies he'll tell her. i know its corny but its definately possible!

this is one of my favourite ships! hmmm i don't know if i have been here before but oh well! hello again if i have!

i think that this ship is the best.

a lot of you are talking about if they die. I think that if either of them die it will be in the other's arms till the very end and it will be raining. i find that just makes the whole thing more sad.
i also think that Ron would die for Hermione and so would Hermione die for Ron. i can jst see this... right now. Ron just runs out infront of a spell and pushes Hermione out of the way. Awww.... or the other way around .... awwww...

if Hermione dies for Ron... Ron would get angry and i think that would reflect in his power or something...

Yeah, K.Lupin_werewolf, if Hermione died I could see that effecting Ron's powers.
He'd probably be doing unforgivable curses everywhere. It would definitely help in the final battle.

you guys are forgetting. this theory could go either way! its a good theory but there are two of them i mean dont you think that if they really loved each other hermione would do the same?

I agree. I really have a feeling that one of them will die, and I think it's going to be Hermione. I honestly don't know why, it's just a feeling that I have. I can't explain it... Does anybody agree with me and my feeling?

No, I don't think Hermione will die. One reason is from the author. Hermione represents Jo. I don't think Jo wants to kill her own persona. The story will lose its eternal appeal if Ron or Hermione dies.

I think that it would be to cruel to kill either Hermione or Ron off, they represent the happiness at the end, the light at the end of the tunnel, the sweet reliefe of what promises to be a very dark book. I don't see either one of them dying.

askingforit

woo someone agrees! wel i can see him becoming more powerful ... and maybe he would be casting curses al over the place, especially at whoever may have killed her.

Knowitall88

yes i think they would do the same for each other as i said...


~Miss_Granger~
Miss Granger is your feeling a feeling or a feeling because their your fave character? i don't know if you understand what i'm saying but let me just clarify it for a moment... my fave character is Lupin and i have a feeling he will die.. deep down even though some part of me tells me isn't and i don't want him too.

muggleview

but the story is over? will it really lose any appeal if J.K kills her persona? it over after the DH.. and well in sense part of J.K is dying when she leaves HP behind and it's all over.

Amyrat151

good ideas! i don't want them to die but i can see it happening in my minds eye but i'm not too sure if it will either.

The eternal appeal of HP series that people will like to read the series repeatedly will diminish if the ending is tragic. Many who love Ron and/or Hermione will not touch the whole books again if they die. The death of other characters are understandable from storyline point, but the death of the beloved sidekicks are difficult to discern. The urge to read again will be reduced.

Well in my opinon I think for the story not to have a corny fairy tale ending one of the three characters needs to die! I dont believe it will take anything away from the people reading the story. If anything it will help it! Think about it how tiring does it get when all fantasy authors end their story the same way! "and everyone lived happily ever after....." My impression of Jo is that she wouldnt do that. But I dont beleive its above her to kill ron or hermione off! I just dont think the story would have enough personal appeal if she killed luna or neville or ginny. If the whole thing truly is about love and death as most people think of it as. This will only make sense w/ the loss of ron and hermione! possibly ginny but once again to me that just dosent make sense. I think the most likely person is ron though

Ron and Hermione represents the two worlds Harry is in: the wizard world and the muggle world. As long as Jo let both worlds thrive, I believe Ron and Hermione will survive the war. They suppose to lead Harry to leave like common people, instead of adventurous.

Everyone is starting to talk about characters dying when this is supposed to be about Ron and Hermione. Someone can make a thread about that somewhere else. Get on topic people!

Knowitall88, I know that people would be pretty sad if Neville died, or Luna, or Ginny! Don't discount them because they're not part of the Goldern Trio, they're all imporant.
I agree with Muggs, they're the loveable sidekicks, you don't kill them off.

Askingforit is right. We should get back to the positive side of the thread: Ron and Hermione may get a fortune at the end to start the family. It's possible that the British cover of DH shows Harry, Ron and Hermione inside Gringott Bank, perhaps to find all the horcruxes stored there?
There are sword, locket, gem stones etc. At the end, the wizarding world may grant Ron and Hermione a reward for helping Harry to remove the threat of Death Eaters and Voldemort.
It will be nice that Ron can enjoy some good life while establishing his own career as a merchant (OOP). Hermione can pursue her cause to free house elves.

Sorry my B i just get very into certain disscussions sometimes. Im sorry i dont mean to discount neville and luna and everyone else they have as good of chance as R/H of getting killed.

N Y way so what do you think about ron and hermiones relationship in book 7? will they actually reveal to each other that they love each other? then maybe after the battle is there possibility for marriage?

~IM SORRY EVERYONE!~

okay i don't want to get off topic again, but it is my strong belief , that if anyone died, it would be neville.

anyway, i think that ron and hermione have to live. to me their probably the most indisposible characters in the book. whether they'll have that sweet, almost throw up ending.....i don't know. it would be nice, and satisfactory, but also unsatisfactory. this is my opinion: in the end they'll end up happy, but i think that that rocky road they're on, still has some miles to go, and some of the books suspension is going to come from the final conclusion, that jk rowling will probably not give to us until the end, or near the end. Ron and hermione still have some stupid moves in them, whether theyre out of the school setting or not.

well all thats my two cents for the day.

we all see that ron and hermoine will be together and were meant to be that way, but how soon.

I thought they would get together at the end of HBP, but that didn't go down, but they got so much closer. I've found their relationship of ver the last two novels very rough and a little tiring at times, but intriguing none the less.

How is it going to happen? I think they will absolutely realize that they are meant for each other while spending so much time under trying conditions while they are helping Harry.

With Ron and Hermione, I believe Jo is not following regular relationship with declaration, kiss etc. It is growing in each of them and before they realise it or can even stop it, bam, they cannot live without each other. The relationship could just go through with Ron saying: "Hermione, let's get married" and Hermione said, "but, Ron, where are we going to live after that?" Ron said, "let's get that empty magic house near Grimmauld Place" and Hermione said, "Looks unusual, but fine with me".

well you guys are probably right i can especially see muggleview's opinoin coming true. though dont get me wrong and i think you guys will agree wouldnt that be satisfying if they finally just ended one of their arguments in a make out scene! I know it would be for me it makes me sooooooooooo frustrated that they dont just spit it out!

P.s why am i always the first post on a new page!

Yeah, I also hope to read a kiss or two. We have waited so long. Once at least. Twice is better.
Nonetheless Ron and Hermione will not display it in public.

True but I kinda wish they would i mean is it really gonna make a difference I mean arent people going to find out! What do guys think harry's reaction will be?

I agree two kisses would be better than one. Yeah I don't see Ron and Hermione kissing in public. Hermione wouldn't like that she probably thinks that it should be kept private, which it should be. Unless it is just a simple kiss on the cheek then that's ok but if R/Hr do a full make out then that should be private.

Well I think that they might show affection in public, like holding hands and stuff, at the most a very quick kiss on the lips good bye, but no full on make-outs. I imagine their first kiss at the wedding, away from everyone, so not a public first kiss like Ginny/Harry, but a kiss, none the less.

Well, to prepare for less than ideal situation, here are some lists of possibilities:

- Harry looked for the door. He couldn't bear to see Ginny trying to be cheerful, because he knew she must feel as awful as he was now. As Harry stepped out of the room full with guests to the quiet garden, he heard the sound of kissing. He stopped to listen. Ron's harsh voice asked, "So, how are we going to tell your parents?" Hermione's voice replied, "By meeting them, of course."

- Harry and Ron were about to exit, when Hermione was calling them. "Be careful, you two," she said, "and come home safely." On the tip-toe she kissed the tip of Ron's nose, and quickly disappeared to the back of the house.

- Hermione went back to her room, still fuming. Ron watched her with open mouth. Harry laughed at him and said, "Why don't you just kiss her to calm her down?" Ron suddenly jumped back to live and asked, "You knew?"

Lol, muggleview. I reakon their first kiss will be at the wedding. I can see Hermione getting annoyed and bored, so she drags him off ti the dance floor. Then (As it's in Harry's POV) we see him ... i dunno, probably fretting over Ginny or something.

Then realising that Ron and Hermione have kissed on the dance floor.

Hehehe, cute. But i can see their realtionship sweet and funny, as Hermione will refused to do anything more than hold hands in public and Ron will just be plain embarressed (Poor Ron-then there's the twins).

Which reminds me-how on earth would everyone else take it?

Hello all! I'm a newbie to these forums (this is my first post actually...). I've been a massive R/Hr supporter for donkey's years! I've managed to read through all the posts on this topic/thread/forum? and it's taken me ages... But yes!

I really have no idea how their relationship is going to play out, JK just has a way of mixing things up doesn't she? Like in HBP I would never have expected the whole Ron/Lavender situation... So really I think that however JK writes it, it won't be anything like anyone has thought up.

In saying that though I love reading all the situations everyone has written up here Gives me that warm fuzzy feeling inside, I get extremely girly and squealy when it comes to all things R/Hr. Hehehe.

I agree that Ron and Hermione won't be overly physical in public. They'll be affectionate towards each other, but I don't see them having massive snog sessions Ron/Lavender style. That would just be completely bizarre. Hilarious - yes, but bizarre.

Hhhmmm, after reading through all these posts I now feel like reading a fanfic...

-Sarah-

I truly believe their first kiss will be at the wedding. But I think it will be away from everyone, and just a kiss (a long one), but not a make out.

What do you think for their first kiss? A real short quick one. A long but single one. Or a make out.

Hiya McDubya! You read all of the posts?! God that must have taken you ages! You must like R/Hr. Well don't worry-all of us here in the R/Hr thread love R/Hr (Well, i'm assuming they do, because i mean, why else would they be here?)

Anywho, as for your question askingforit, i can see it being very awkward and painful (Not really, but painful for everyone else to watch). That's just Ron and Hermione. Short and quick is the way i see it.

I can't see a full-frontal snog-session (At least not in front of everybody) and i reakon it'd be a sweeter kiss after.

This is the world of Harry Potter-we all know it isn't happy-happy-joy-joy-land, and all lovey-dovey.

Well... about the first kiss. I don't know when it will happen but I think it will be long sweet kiss, full of love. And no make out. of course better would be if noone see tham while they are kissing, but Harry need to see that because we need to see that too right?

By the way I'm so happy that rupert and Emma will take part in last two movies!!! I just culdn't imagine someone else in thers place. I want to see them kissing

Ok, I have a question for all of you and I would appreciate if you would write down your thoughts abot this: Do you think the R/Hr relationship will be important for the plot of the book seven and more importantly, if it will be of any significance to the end of the book? If yes, how?

Well, I was always under the impression that Heron was important, otherwise Jo would not have built it up so much. How? Well ,the only way to defeat evil and hate is through love, right? Well, in addition to the H/G ship, I thought they could all together help Harry by using their bonds of love. This counts for Ron/Hermione as well.

Maybe I'm crazed, I don't know.

There may be some sort of significance, but I don't know what it would be. Maybe them being together will make their magic stronger. Since they don't have to worry about jealousy anymore, they'll be happy (only with them being together), thus making them become more powerful and/or driven.

There's always the theory that their relationship, or Hermione, will mirror what Lily did. But I highly doubt JK would do something like that.

I agree when I read all of the post it took me a very long time, I wish I could have found this one sooner! I think you guys would really like a member Nacissa's story It Was Always You it is great if you think Ron and Hermione should be together, but I guess you also have to think that Harry and Ginny should be together too. You should really read it, it is wonderful and you guys would freak at chapter twelve, because ... well I guess I shouldn't tell you so just read it o.k.
On the subject of their fist kiss I too think that it will be at the wedding, and most likly in private.

Hermione's story is comparable with Lily's.
Similarities:
- both were muggleborn
- both were brilliant students
- both fell in love with purebloods.

Differences:
- Hermione was Ron's best friend, since first year, whereas Lily hated James Potter until the sixth year.
- Lily was good at potions, whereas Hermione at spells.
- Different hair colours.

Jo Rowling doesn't copy one relationship to the other, but there is some underlying patterns.

True Muggleview.



No, you're not crazed, i agree! If JKR spent so much time on R/Hr then why would it not be important? She's pratically laid her foundation since book 1, and built it up gradually over the years. If it has spent all this time building up, then why woulnd't it be important?

As Mistress of Magic said, love is also important in defeating Voldemort. And didn't MacGonagall say that Dumbledore would love to know that there was a little more love in the world?

And if they don't love each other, then my name's Luanne (Which it's not).

Welcome McDubya, or Sarah, as I asume that is your real name, we are greatful to have you here with us.
Mistress of Magic, R/Hr has been built up, and right out in the open to, so I'm sure it will be imporant in some way, shape or forum.
Muggs, I like what you've thought up for their first kiss. I think that it's most likely to be the first one, but Harry hidding out first, away from everyone, then Hermione and Ron come into the area where he's hiding and that's how we get the details.

Jo wrote anything with a purpose for later. R/Hr was planned and developed meticulously, so they are important till the end. My nightmare is Jo doesn't allow us to see more display of their romance. As book 1 has indicated, Hermione helps Harry with skill and intelligence. Ron helps Harry with strategy and emotional support. They are important supporters for Harry in his quest.

wow alot can happen when you are gone for a couple of days!

I have a feeling that like some of you have aluded to, heron will end the end help to vanquish voldy! but does anyone have any idea how that could work?
will a spell perhaps?

My take is: there will a puzzle and a strategic problem. Hermione will solve the puzzle and Ron will handle the strategic problem. Harry has to face Voldemort alone, but this time, he has Ginny's love in his heart and probably one of her unique spells.

I agree. They will definetly be getting together and I do believe there will be a puzzle, but i beleive they will have to join forces to solve it because the side their on believes that there is strength together, while Voldermort seems to think that it's just himself.

I think Ron and Hermione will totally get together in the seventh book near the beginning like at the wedding or something. That would be romantic. They see how much they like each other when they see how much Bill and Fleur do.

As long it's not like a puzzle that opens up the labyrinth of Hell , anyone with me on the refernce? But anyway, I think that Harry will have the love of not just Ginny, because there are a few people who Harry loved before he loved her.
But I hope that Ron and Hermione will get to do cool things, you know? Like battle evil with long forgotten spells that Hermione finds and stuff.

Perhaps R.A.B. left behind a note: "I left the remaining horcruxes of the Dark Lord in box 1234 in the Gringott Bank. Good luck." Now Harry and friends have to find a way to break in the bank. Ron will take care of the army of Goblins, Hermione will find a way to reach the box, and Harry will have to destroy them all at once.
That's one of the things come to mind after looking at the Bloombury's cover art for DH.

We have already seen that Hermione is good at planning an approach, and Ron is quite handy when it comes to actually executing it. So you can bet that that will be their prmoinent roles in helping out Harry. not to mention they all need to learn some more advanced spells.

I had a nightmare. I dreamed I read that either Ron and Hermione were dying, and never got a chance to tell the other how they felt. And just as they take their last breath, they say "I love you," and then die.

Can you imagine? I would be devastated and livid. How about you?

I think I would cry if they had that ending. I wouldn't burst into tears. I would just let down a few tears and stop reading the book for a few minutes. For their honor. Because I think they represent every reader at least a little bit. So, I would stop reading the book. Definetly. But I really hope it won't come to that.

I would definitely be a sobbing, squealing, emotional wreck if that happened.
Knowing me though I'd probably keep reading til the end of the book, and then realise I hadn't actually taken anything in after that point...

I don't think it will happen though, Ron and Hermione deserve more than that. It would be much too devastating for the R/Hr fans, and well all HP fans in general, if that were to happen. There's been too much of a build up for their love to end in a dying breath.

For that to be happen would be terrible. I doubt it will though, because i agree to the fact that they deseve more respect. also, fo that to happen, their deaths would have to be sycrohnised. they would have to be hit by the exact same curse at the exact same time with the exact same power and have their dying their breaths at the exact same time. Yeah, that seems pretty probable

I don't know Muggs...that seems a little (very)...lame.
That would be one of the worst things to happen "I love you" then death. That would bite the big one. But I doubt it, it seems way to unfair for them never to of even kissed.