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LovelyLily
Hello all, so about the belongings...

It was put in their vault wasn't it?Or the house could have been burt down, and all their belonging destroyed. Another guess is that it got passed down to Lupin or someone.

I also think that Dumbledore got a hold of the cloak and gave it to Harry. Perhaps he got it from Hagrid after he got Harry in the first book...

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My first thought was that maybe Dumbledore went back to Godrics Hollow the night James died and took the cloak thinking that he would give it to Harry when he was older. But then I remembered that Dumbledore's note to Harry said something like: "Your father left this in my possession before he died." Before he died. Which sort of implies that James knew he was going to die and wanted to make sure that Harry got the cloak...


I also agree with Katie here that does make sence.I agree that Dumbledore could have gone and picked up the belongings after they died.

I also have a question, in the first book when Hagrid brings Harry to Dumbledore to give to the Dursleys he says I just picked him up....picked him up where wink.gif hmmmmm.....

Oh and thank you madmarauder Ive missed you all too! I've just been really busy with homework loads, and Cross Country, but this week is my last so I will be on more from now on! Thank you for the concern, I feel loved happy.gif Oh and go ahead I also liked the picture, I thought it was cute.

Marauderishly Yours,
Lily


Oh sorry just saw the new topic! So moving on... happy.gif

I believe that Petunia thought her sister was freaky and scary because she could do things out of the ordinary for her. So she probably thought James was a wierdo just like she thought Lily was. She also probably wanted nothing to do with either of them because of their magical abbilities and kept a distance as much as she could.

Golden Phoenix
QUOTE(madmarauder123 @ Nov 3 2006, 02:14 AM) [snapback]251619[/snapback]

Ugh, not very good at choosing lasting halloween/Lily and James topics, am I? Um, how about just Lily and James topics. Like how Petunia became jealous over Lily and how she may have reacted towards James.


Hmm... I suppose it was simply because she was a witch. Petunia thought she was a bit strange, as she said in the film: "I was the only one who could see her for what she truly was - a freak!" I'm not sure what she said in the book though... haven't read it in ages. It was something along those lines though. And also because her parents were proud of Lily, weren't they? So she would have got a lot of attention from them, while Petunia ended up being left out and lonely. That was probably the whole reason. But what about what JKR said, that we will find out something important about Petunia... and maybe about Lily... maybe that has something to do with it... unsure.gif

LovelyLily
Oh I found this on the internet about Petunia and Lily...
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Lily was Muggle-born, and at home, her sister Petunia despised Lily for being a witch and saw her as a "freak", possibly because she was jealous of how their parents favoured Lily. Petunia told Harry in Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone that, "But for my mother and father, oh no, it was Lily this and Lily that, they were proud of having a witch in the family!"
So this shows that Petunia was jealous of her sister. She probably diddn't understand why they favored her because she was the "normal one" and Lily was the "freak".

I also found this quote about what Petunia thought of James. But she was never clear about who it was she was talking about.
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She also knows more than she cares to let on about Dementors because she "overheard a conversation" between Lily and "that awful boy" (OP2), possibly James or Sirius. According to JKR, there is more to it than that, but we won't find out until Book 7
Other than this Petunia doesn't say anything that i can recall about James. But we will find out more about Lily in the next book biggrin.gif an so perhaps Petunia also...


Marauderishly Yours,

Lily
madmarauder123
Ok, I'm officially out of lily and james topic, so lets just go over to the others. Like Lupin for example. Let's have a discussion on wether or not Lupin will die or live in book seven. State why and how you think he'll live. We'll have a similar discussion on Peter afterwards. I will give my views on the subject soon. Have fun, fellow marauders at heart!


marauderishly yours,

madmarauder
LovelyLily
I think that Lupin will live. I mean hes Lupin and not all the marauders can die! That would be absolutly terrible!!! I think he will help out Harry with Voldemort and such. He and Tonks also have to get together wub.gif Lupin has had such a lonley and sad life, he deserves to live. I found this on the Harry Potter lexicon
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"I was also playing with that [intolerance] when I created Professor Lupin, who has a condition which is contagious, of course, and so people are very frightened of him; and I really like Professor Lupin as a character because he's someone that also has a failing, because although he is a wonderful teacher (one I myself would have liked to have had as a teacher) and a wonderful man, he does like to be liked and that's where he slips up. He's been disliked so often that he's always so pleased to have friends, so he cuts them an awful lot of slack."
-- J.K. Rowling
See he just can't die, its not his time yet biggrin.gif

Marauderishly Yours,

Lily
HP_RULES!
Of course he will live! I think I have been through this before but I guess I will say it again. Ok, think about everything that Lupin has been through. He was bitten because of something his father did to offend Greyback, has lived a life of discrimination, has had to live as a werewolf for most of his life, has lost his two best friends, has lost the only person who gave him a job, had his other best friend turn to Lord Voldemort, has lived alone in fear of harming others etc. etc. I don't think that I need to go on. Now, he finally got through it all, has a job working for the order, and has found love, do you really think that given how much Jo likes Remus and how amazing he is she would really let him die? That would be TERRIBLE!!! We can't lose all of the marauders and now Harry needs a mentor. I know that Jo got rid of DD because he was Harry's mentor, but he needs one that doesn't have as much influence over Harry's life as DD did, but still somewhere there to help him out. See? I will cry forever if Lupin dies too! It can't happen, it just cant! He has to get his revenge on Greyback, marry Tonks, get a job, and live happily ever after, he is too good a person not to live. Well, there you go! happy.gif
madmarauder123
I think that Lupin may live, but as J.K has said, this is a dark book. It would make sense for Lupin to stick around to stay as Harry's father figure, but I can also see Lupin playing a sacrifice role. Maybe defending Tonks from Greyback,warding him off but getting himself killed, or mabe leaping in front of Harry to ward off an Avada Kadavra. I can see both being a case. Lupin should live so harry can have a father figure and be with Tonks, maybe having kids with her, or he can save Harry, helping him on his quest. Confusing, isn't it?


marauderishly yours,

madmarauder
Golden Phoenix
Okay, I'm really sorry to say this, especially after you've all said you think he will live... I actually don't think Lupin will make it. I think I said something ages ago about how I think it is the curse of a Marauder... that they will all eventually die, which means I think Peter will die too. I'll probably be proved wrong though... But didn't JK say that a couple of characters die when she didn't originally intend them to. And if there were some that she did intend to die in the 7th book, then I think Lupin is probably would be one of them. sleep.gif Not saying I want him to though!
madmarauder123
No one here is. We want Lupin to live. He's the last REAL marauder. Hey, a popular theroy states that Wormtail will die, not Lupin, and it has interesting evidence to back it up.

Messers. Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot and Prongs. Look at them in reverse order. James was the first to go. Then Sirius. Peter is most likely the next marauder to die. And we know that Peters hand won't kill Lupin, J.K shot that down. So either Lupin dies brawling it out or Peter does defending Harry against a stray avada kadavra.

marauderishly yours,

madmarauder
Golden Phoenix
Hey, I'm here! Finally someone posted! I would have done, but that would mean a double post or not having anybody notice that my post had been edited. Anyway... yeah, that was said in SPELL earlier, I found it really interesting. I can't believe I've never noticed it myself. I miss these things easily. So if it really is a reliable piece of evidence (and the chances are it is) then that's really good because Peter will die before Remus does... though when we can't be exactly sure. They could both die in the last book which would be horrible. Personally, I would prefer it if it was just Peter that goes in book 7 and Remus lives on. That would be best...
LovelyLily
I do also think that Peter will die defending Harry. I do hope that Lupin does not die, but he could do a sacrafice sort of thing for Harry.Or since Peter will die J.K wont let Lupin die too..Lupin needs to live and be the last living marauder, even though thats a sad thought. Yup I agree with you madmarauder.

Marauderishly Yours,
Lily
HP_RULES!
Yeah, I thought that was really cool! I still think Remus will live though, she needs to leave us one marauder!!! I could see Peter dying though, hopefully doing something noble so that he can *gosh, I can't think of a word* regain his marauderness. Get it? Yes, he needs to die defending Harry and make up for killing his parents before he dies too. I kind of want him to die, just let him do one good deed then die a good person. happy.gif
azkabanical
I believe the word you might be looking for is 'redeem?' I don't want Lupin to die any more than the rest of you, but haven't you noticed how JK seems to kill off all the important people in Harry's life that are shielding him from Voldemort? First his parents, then Sirius, then Dumbledore...the only 'guardians' he has left are Lupin, McGonagall, the Weasleys...sorry if I'm missing any. I have to wonder how many of them will be left after #7.
LovelyLily
That is a very good point you have there azkabanical, cool name and welcome! It is true how every one is being killed off but there has to be a few people left for Harry in the end. I think he may stick around and start a family wioth Tomks. We can not forget that the last chapter in the 7th book J.k. said is going to be an epilogue. Here is the quote that I found on HP lexicon...
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The last word of the seventh book, according to Rowling, is "scar." She says that she has written the very last chapter already (BN) and that the last chapter contains details of what happens to each surviving character. (HPM).

* This is the thing that I was very dubious about showing you... (T)his is the final chapter of book seven. This is really where I wrap everything up, it's the epilogue. And I basically say what happens to everyone after they leave school - those who survive - because there are deaths - more deaths coming. It was a way of saying to myself, "Well you will get it, you will get to book seven one day. And then you'll need this!" So I'd just like to remind all the children I know who come around my house and start sneaking into cupboards that it's not there anymore - I don't keep it at home anymore for very, very, very obvious reasons. So there it is.
Lupin needs and deserves a happy ending.

Marauderishly Yours,
Lily
madmarauder123
It's going to be an epilouge? I missed that little nugget of info. Thanks LovelyLily!

Ok, Peter will most likely die playing the role of a protector, meaning blocking a stray spell etc. etc. Remember, he has to pay Harry's debt. OH! I just had a huge idea! What if he blocks an avada kadavra...........for Lupin. This is a good theroy for 2 reasons.

1) He was once Peteers friend, surely he can't have forgotten that?
2) by saving Lupin, he saves harry s last remaining "guradian" if you will

Talk about it, I'm wipped out. I went to a concert yesterday and didn't get home till 4 in the morning...on a school night. Last time Im doing that.

marauderishly yours,

madmarau-zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Lord Jak
I don't think that Peter will try to save Remus though. Afterall, Remus and Sirius both tried to kill him in Prisoner of Azkaban and a person would remember that more than someone being their friend in the past.



QUOTE(madmarauder123 @ Nov 5 2006, 04:56 PM) [snapback]253303[/snapback]

Messers. Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot and Prongs. Look at them in reverse order. James was the first to go. Then Sirius. Peter is most likely the next marauder to die. And we know that Peters hand won't kill Lupin, J.K shot that down. So either Lupin dies brawling it out or Peter does defending Harry against a stray avada kadavra.


Wow, I never noticed that before blink.gif Actually I never would've even thought of it. But I have to agree with logic like this - once stated in this way, Peter does seem to be the next Marauder that's going to die.
Finn Chow
I have to agree with Lord Jak on this. It would be highly unlikely for Peter to even try to save Remus since the only person he owes his life to is Harry. Truth be told, I don't believe that Peter would even help Harry if he was in danger, it just doesn't suit what I see as his character type.
Golden Phoenix
QUOTE(Finn Chow)
I have to agree with Lord Jak on this. It would be highly unlikely for Peter to even try to save Remus since the only person he owes his life to is Harry. Truth be told, I don't believe that Peter would even help Harry if he was in danger, it just doesn't suit what I see as his character type.


Hmm... I think I have to disagree with you there. I think Peter is exactly the type of person who would save Harry's life... but possibly not if he was going to get killed himself. No, I think he would... He is in Harry's debt and therefore must repay him in some way. Probably out of fear of what would happen to him if someone, like one of Harry's friends, found out that he was there when Voldemort was about to kill Harry and he didn't do anything to help him. Although I can't see how it would help if Peter died because then Voldemort would just kill Harry after... he wouldn't care that his servant was dead. And Remus? I think, because he used to be one of his best friends, maybe he'd feel inclined to do the same for him. But I don't think Remus would forgive him for betraying James and Lily even if he did save his life. Okay... that's was a load of rubbish. I don't think I even established any good points, I basically contradicted myself on everything. unsure.gif

FawkesThePheonix
So, so sorry I haven't been on in like a month guys. I know I've missed a lot... but I think I can catch up. So, are we on the subject of Peter saving Lupin's life? Well if we are, I agree with Golden Pheonix on this one. If Peter did decide to save Lupin's life, it would probably be out of fear, not compassion. I think Peter feels a sort of thing like guilt, but not quite, he knows that he owes his life to all the maruders, or the one that is left and Harry, but isn't quite sure on how to pay that debt.

Fawkes

HP_RULES!
Welcome back Fawkes!!!!! happy.gif I think I am about to contradict myself here too Katie! I don't necessarily think that if Peter does die for Harry it will be out of any form of guilt, I was thinking more along the lines of some kind of personnal gain. As much as I would love to envision this perfect fairly tale ending where Peter dies risking his life for Harry because he feels bad, we do have to consider who we are dealing with. I don't think that Peter is very chivalrous so I doubt he will ever decide that he owes the marauders, or Harry, anything. That of course does make me wonder why Jo put it in the books in the first place. Given what we have seen of Peter though, I could see Voldemort possibly starting to lose the battle so Peter tries to switch sides by trying to save Harry from a spell, only to die in the process. Ok, that sounded kind of dumb but I just can't see Peter deciding to help Harry anymore. I still hope he dies for him, I just have to figure out how. If I think of anything I will post it, but until then I will see you guys!
LovelyLily
I don't think that peter is suddenly going to get brave and stand up for Harry. There has to be something in it for him or something like that. I dont think he would stand up for Lupin either...they may have been friends in the past but Lupin was going to kill Peter...Yea, I agree with Lord Jak on this one

Marauderishly Yours,
Lily
FawkesThePheonix
Good point there Lily, I think that is the truest thing I have read so far! I agree that there is going to have to be something in it for Peter before he stands up and decides to do anything.

Fawkes
Golden Phoenix
Yep, I agree totally. I know I said that Peter would try to do whatever he could to save Harry but I really think that he would be more willing to help him if there was something to gain from it. So, going back on my point again, Peter probably would not actually be willing to die to save Harry. I can't see how it would help exactly anyway... Pettigrew dieing is not going to affect Voldemort's Avada Kedavra casting ability, is it? Umm.. that made no sense whatsoever. Anyone else fell like we've been on this topic for ages... or am I just really impatient. Probably me being impatient, most likely.

And, yes, welcome back Fawkes! We missed you! happy.gif

Dudley_Demented
ph34r.gif No i dont think he would die to save harrys life ph34r.gif

Mod Edit: Hello, and welcome to the forums! Could I ask you to have a swing by the rules, please? One liners aren't allowed as they don't promote much discussion. Thanks! smile.gif
LovelyLily
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Pettigrew dieing is not going to affect Voldemort's Avada Kedavra casting ability, is it? Umm.. that made no sense whatsoever. Anyone else fell like we've been on this topic for ages... or am I just really impatient. Probably me being impatient, most likely.


Possibly it could effect Voldemort in a away, since Voldemort relies on Peter for some things..I see what your saying Katie. This may sound really far fetched but could Peter contain important information or something for Voldemort as to where he needs to live to help Voldemort with something? Does anyone even understand what I am saying? Probably not dry.gif Also, I agree this topic seems to be done, may I request a new topic from the one and only Madmarauder? By the way where have you been?

Marauderishly Yours,
Lily
madmarauder123
Ugh, my computer crashed yesterday, one of the local area internet providers shut down unexpectantly. Who knows why.

Hm, maybe he won't go for Lupin or kill himself, but it would have to be something useful, helpful, marauderish, or all three at once.Hope its marauderish, we have yet to see why Peter became a marauder anyways.

what was that? New topic? Hmmm, let me oick one out of my magic hat. *brings out a hat with frills and bows* what?....its my moms. anyways, *draws out a card, starts to read* "Why did the marauders have those specific animagy, er no, animagi." Well, we know it has to result around they're personality. Peters is somewaht obvious, but why did Sirius and James get theirs?

marauderihsly yours,

madmarauder
LovelyLily
*pulls out bouquet of roses from hat for madmarauder* Thank you Magic MadMarauder happy.gif New Topic yay!
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what was that? New topic? Hmmm, let me oick one out of my magic hat. *brings out a hat with frills and bows* what?....its my moms. anyways, *draws out a card, starts to read* "Why did the marauders have those specific animagy, er no, animagi." Well, we know it has to result around they're personality. Peters is somewaht obvious, but why did Sirius and James get theirs?


Sirius is a dog, because, hmmmmm good question. Well in a way he looks like a dog, because of the hair color and how Sirius kept it long, his posture. He also has the qualities of a dog..loyal,kind,can get into mischief, Sirius is kind of more like a puppy actually tongue.gif

James is a stag, when i think of a stag I think of someone strong, bold, and solid you know? Also the stag is the male in the family and has to be the lookout and be brave I guess. So it fits.

I'll think of more later, but thats all for now

Marauderishly Yours,
Lily
FawkesThePheonix
Yes a new topic! Yeah, well peter was obvious to the point of being a rat! GRR! Okay, well about James and Sirius, I have thought this over many times, so this should be easy!

James- a stag- Well, stags are very strong and powerful, just as Lily stated, They are brave, but are very well known in the animal kingdom as the king of the forest. They are beautiful popular creatures for their great antlers, which is a bit of symbolism for James.

Sirius-a dog- Well, dogs are very loyal and protective. We have been told that Sirius was the most loyal to his friends of the four. He was protective and caring. Dogs can also be rough and fierce. Very emotional. Sirus may not have liked to show it, but he was a very emotional perosn.

Fawkes
madmarauder123
Ooo! Good news, everybody! The lovely LovelyLily sent me some excellent marauder ideas.

1)best marauder icon
2)best marauder fanfic
3)something along the lines of best marauder video. Maybe send us a link

For these amazing ideas, she will recieve the generous offer of 30 internet galleons! *chunk*chink*

hm, I imagined james as a stag because of him having a sort of majestic grace around him, not to mention being strong. as for Sirius, him being loyal and stuff. toodles!


marauderishly yours,

madmarauder
Lord Jak
When i was reading over the last few post, I thought to myself 'Hm... why is James' a stag?' and then another thought came to mind. James tried to defend his family from Voldemort before he was killed. I know this will sound odd but in that way he reminds me of Bambi's dad...
LupinFan88
Well, as far as Animagi forms goes, it may not be up to the witch/wizard to pick it. I mean, lets take what FawkesThePheonix said:

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James- a stag- Well, stags are very strong and powerful, just as Lily stated, They are brave, but are very well known in the animal kingdom as the king of the forest. They are beautiful popular creatures for their great antlers, which is a bit of symbolism for James.

Sirius-a dog- Well, dogs are very loyal and protective. We have been told that Sirius was the most loyal to his friends of the four. He was protective and caring. Dogs can also be rough and fierce. Very emotional. Sirus may not have liked to show it, but he was a very emotional perosn.


They both represent those charcteristics. I mean, Sirius deply cares for Harry and, for a lack of a better term, "shows his teeth" when he encounters Snape in OotP. As for James, he was kinda the leader of the group, and with Harry being brave, we just know that James was to. As for Peter, he was willing to "rat" out his own friends for personal gain. A rat doesnt care about who it affects, but only cares about itself. And there are other examples of Animagi, like McGonagall being a cat. A cat is graceful and looks weak on the outside, but can really take a "bite" out of you. Sorry about all the puns, but it helps my point.

And Lord Jak,
I agree fully. He does remind me of that. And lets say that a stag is a deer (not sure if thats true), James was hunted down in the end. That sounds kinda bad I know, but its true. J.K. probably put these parraells in for a reason. That is at least my opinion.

Sincerley,
LupinFan88, student in lycanthropy, taught by a R. J. Lupin

Greg&Forge
QUOTE(LupinFan88 @ Nov 9 2006, 11:58 PM) [snapback]255962[/snapback]

Well, as far as Animagi forms goes, it may not be up to the witch/wizard to pick it. I mean, lets take what FawkesThePheonix said:

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James- a stag- Well, stags are very strong and powerful, just as Lily stated, They are brave, but are very well known in the animal kingdom as the king of the forest. They are beautiful popular creatures for their great antlers, which is a bit of symbolism for James.

Sirius-a dog- Well, dogs are very loyal and protective. We have been told that Sirius was the most loyal to his friends of the four. He was protective and caring. Dogs can also be rough and fierce. Very emotional. Sirus may not have liked to show it, but he was a very emotional perosn.


They both represent those charcteristics. I mean, Sirius deply cares for Harry and, for a lack of a better term, "shows his teeth" when he encounters Snape in OotP. As for James, he was kinda the leader of the group, and with Harry being brave, we just know that James was to. As for Peter, he was willing to "rat" out his own friends for personal gain. A rat doesnt care about who it affects, but only cares about itself. And there are other examples of Animagi, like McGonagall being a cat. A cat is graceful and looks weak on the outside, but can really take a "bite" out of you. Sorry about all the puns, but it helps my point.

And Lord Jak,
I agree fully. He does remind me of that. And lets say that a stag is a deer (not sure if thats true), James was hunted down in the end. That sounds kinda bad I know, but its true. J.K. probably put these parraells in for a reason. That is at least my opinion.

Sincerley,
LupinFan88, student in lycanthropy, taught by a R. J. Lupin


Yeah, perfectly put together. Each person's Animagi fits for their personality. As for why each person's form is the way it is, I don't think thats for them to choose, and neither is their patronuos (spl?). But Stag are a form of real power and strength they do kinda rule the forest. As for a rat, there kind of more like pests, (sorry for those of you who actually like rats unsure.gif ) I mean, there not always wanted around, like if someone where to see one in their house they would want to get rid of it, and Peter was always just sort of that tagalong with the others, it never really mattered whether he was there or not. Get what I'm going at? Maybe it's just rubbish... mellow.gif

And Lupin dying, I certainly hope not! He's supossed to be my wizarding boyfriend! lol, just kidding. I don't think that JK will do that to him, it does make sense that she would want to just have all the maraurders die, but he's the last father figure that Harry has left, with his father, DD, and Sirius all dead. Plus, leaving it at just that with Tonks isn't really fair to us fans! He's a really good guy, he's honest and very loyal. There wouldn't be much purpose in killing off his character.

Um..I'm kinda lost don't know exactly what to talk about here sad.gif , you guys move back and forth from one subject to another.

(Ps, I've got galleons?! That's so cool I didn't know anything about them until now. So all our suggestions, do they actually be put into action?)


madmarauder123
Depends on how good the suggestions are. She sent me much more, but I had to say no to some. One was just seeing who could write the longest post. Hm, but thinking about it, we COULD do that, the posts would have to be discribing the marauders though, and you can only do it once. Points could be taken of for grammer and spelling mistakes. Hm, I will PM the other judges and see how they think on it.

Ok, here is a closely related subject. Do you think Lupin is proud he's a werewolf, because it helped him strengthen the bond between friends, but also outcasts him from society. What do you guys think?

marauderishly yours,

madmarauder
FawkesThePheonix
No, Lupin has stated many times he hates being a werewolf. It constricts him from so many things like not being able to continue teaching at Hogwarts, get together with Tonks, and just be a normal person.
I really don't think it strenghtend his friendship, but it put many people whistling.gif Snape whistling.gif and put him through many hard times in his teen years.
Though, it does have its good states. He can really help out the Order by being an underground spy.


Fawkes
LovelyLily
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No, Lupin has stated many times he hates being a werewolf. It constricts him from so many things like not being able to continue teaching at Hogwarts, get together with Tonks, and just be a normal person.
I would have to agree with Fawks here. He has said that he hated it, but in a way it did strengthen his relationship with the others. When they found out that created a trust between them which probably made their relationship stronger. Also when the other marauders created their own anamagi forms that probably made Lupin feel good that they would do that for him, and hang around him during his time (full moon). So my conclusion is that Lupin did not like being a warewolf but I believe that made the marauder's relationship all the more better.

Marauderishly Yours,
Lily

I see you may use the other idea about the long post thing madmarauder feel free to use any suggestions or decline happy.gif I'm happy you can use some if not all.
azkabanical
On the Stag topic (sorry to stray a little bit), the stag kind of reminds me of a huge buck with a nice set of antlers. Like when the bucks are in the rut and chasing all the does around. That's what James was like when he was showing off for Lily.

And a side note on the epilogue: If JK is having an epilogue, that will cut out the opportunities for other people to add to the stories...does that mean Harry won't need to die then? If no one can continue after JK is done writing, then Harry can live without the fear of un-JK sequels.
LovelyLily
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And a side note on the epilogue: If JK is having an epilogue, that will cut out the opportunities for other people to add to the stories...does that mean Harry won't need to die then? If no one can continue after JK is done writing, then Harry can live without the fear of un-JK sequels.
Well Azkabanical, I think it may be just the opposite, she might want to kill Harry so nobody can bring him back either. Killing Harry the main character would show that the series are done, no more Harry Potter you know what I mean?

Oh and I agree with you on the showing off for Lily thing it makes sence.

Marauderishly Yours,
Lily
FawkesThePheonix
Hey guys...Looks like it is just about time fore a new topic....all agree? Well hmmmm let me boggle my mind her for a minute...Oh yes I know


When were the maruders birthdays? If you don't know, (which I don't) then what astrological sign do you think they would be?
Any takers?


Fawkes
LupinFan88
Well, I looked around, but I dont know when anyones birthday is, except Lupin. It says that J.K. said that his birthday is March 10. That would make him....a Pisces. According to what I looked up it says that these traits are prominent in a Piseces:

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Imaginative and sensitive
Compassionate and kind
Selfless and unworldly
Intuitive and sympathetic

Escapist and idealistic
Secretive and vague
Weak-willed and easily led


Some of them, maybe... but easily led? Maybe on your point of view. Weak-willed? I take offense at that. Remus John Lupin (yes its John, I just found out) is not weak-willed and Im sure all of you can back me up. Unworldly? I guess I kinda dont think so. Escapist? No, in fact he rarely indulges. I dont know if his sign fits him or not, but astrology cant be taken too seriously (sorry to those who believe in it)

Sincerley,
LupinFan88, in the serivce of a Messer Moony
HP_RULES!
Hmmm, well, I agree that some of the traits fit him, but a few of them are a tad bit offenseive. Oh well, I don't really believe in astrology, though it is fun to read! happy.gif Ok, well, yes the only birthday I was aware of was Lupin's, as LupinFan88 said, March 10, 1959. That would mean that all of the marauders were born sometime around there too since they were all in the same year, let me go look up signs and I will pick a month for each of them to be born (not based on their real birthday, just for fun)! I will edit my post in a second!

Oh, and brillant ideas for marauder day!!! I LOVE them!!!!! happy.gif

Ok, I would make Sirius and James Aries (I think I found the same website as LupinFan88). I think this one might be a bit more Sirius, but I couldn't find another one for James and they are pretty similar so I decided why not.

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Adventurous and energetic
Pioneering and courageous
Enthusiastic and confident
Dynamic and quick-witted

On the dark side...

Selfish and quick-tempered
Impulsive and impatient
Foolhardy and daredevil


*I couldn't find one for Peter, they all had too many good qualities*
madmarauder123
just find one that says something about being a traitor or dirty rat. that'll fit him. tongue.gif

Ok, how about a better topic. how about another rousing marauder map topic? you know, how they made it at that age, why a password opens it, it's limits, etc. etc.

marauderishly yours,

madmarauder
FawkesThePheonix
Hmm well, about it having a password. That is really difficult to say why. But it was probably for protection. I have another questiont to go along with this beautiful topic. What if the maruaders didn't actually make the map? What if they found it as the twins did..and made it theirs? I mean what if they just teaweaked it to be theirs...? I mean sure they were probably capable to make it themselves, but what if they didn't?

Okay that probably sounds way redundant, but does anyone see what I mean?


Fawkes
Golden Phoenix

Ok, how about a better topic. how about another rousing marauder map topic? you know, how they made it at that age, why a password opens it, it's limits, etc. etc.

Well, about the password, I suppose they didn't want anyone looking at the map if they somehow mislaid it, or worse still, if a teacher caught them with it. If the map was blank then no-one would know what qualities it actually possessed, and if they tried to read it, what would they actually say. I wouldn't have thought that a teacher would say, "I solemnly swear that I am up to no good," to try and look at it. It is quite an unlikely thing for them to say.

What if the maruaders didn't actually make the map? What if they found it as the twins did..and made it theirs? I mean what if they just teaweaked it to be theirs...? I mean sure they were probably capable to make it themselves, but what if they didn't?

Yes, indeedy, I can see how they might have done that. I don't think they did though, they must have made it themselves, there's no doubt they were clever enough to do so. If your idea really is the correct one (which it actually could be, if you think about it) then who did the map belong to before? Hmm...
HP_RULES!
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Ok, how about a better topic. how about another rousing marauder map topic? you know, how they made it at that age, why a password opens it, it's limits, etc. etc.


I am sure that they had a password on there so that none of the teachers would be able to read it. They only wanted real troublemakers to be able to use it so that is why they chose that particular wording, I mean, couldn't you see Fred and George saying a phrase like that? By using a password they ensured that the only people who would be able to use it would be the ones who they wanted to read it. How they made it, I really have no idea. But with three of the most brillant students in their year I could see them finding some way to make it work.

As for what you said Fawkes, I think that they did actually make it. If they took what someone else did then I think it would be harder to change it then to make it in the first place. Plus, it sounds a lot like something that they would do! The map is pure, hilarious brillance and that sounds just like them! happy.gif

It's limits, I have no idea what to say about that. We haven't really seen any limits so I really don't know! Oh well!

Katie: If the map did belong to someone else before then I don't know who it could be, I couldn't really see any of the older characters in the books having made something like that unless it was DD (which I don't think it was). Who do you think could have made it?
Golden Phoenix
Oh yeah, I didn't say anything about the map's limits. Hmm... I don't think that it is really much more than a regular map, even if it is amazingly brilliant. Well, we've seen the way it can insult people it doesn't like (that the marauders don't like, I should say) but apart from that, there is no evidence that the map is anything more than a really well made map. Just wondering, do you think that anyone else has made something like the map before. It doesn't seem like the kind of thing nobody else would think of. I just have this image of people selling them... maybe in a joke shop or something. I can't believe that it was only the marauders who came up with an idea like this.
FawkesThePheonix
Yeah, well I didn't think that my idea was really true either, I really do think that the map was theirs and theirs alone.

About its limits. Well, I agree with Kaite...I don't think it had very many limits. I think it is an bloody brilliant piece of parchment that belongs to our beloved marauders. I think that if it does have limits, they're nothing big and such...

Fawkes
madmarauder123
ah, but here are two limits that we know of that are crucial.

limit #1: it can't show the room of requirement. this could have saved Harry the trouble of using Dobby and Kreacher.also, Hary may have been able to guess what malfoy was doing in there by the rooms size. maybe, it's just a guess

limit #2: it doesn't show Hogsmeade. there are numerous times this could have helped Harry. he could have seen who bewitched Katie. he could have seen Sirius beforehand in year three, confronted him there and learned the truth earlier. again, this is just guessing. but these are drawbacks to the map.

marauderishly yours,

madmarauder
FawkesThePheonix
Yeah, good points. I never even thought about the room of requirment. The map really could have saved Harry some trouble if it did show those things. Also, it doesn't show when people are in their animagus form. In third year it could of helped Harry with the whole Pettigrew situation.

Fawkes
HP_RULES!
Those are amazing points!!! happy.gif Hmmm, I wonder what else the map doesn't show?? I guess it does have it's limits, does DD know about it??

Fawkes: It does show them in their animagus form. That is how Lupin knew to follow Harry, Ron, and Hermione etc. That is another reason why the marauders probably wrote it, the map recognizes them in their animagus form. I don't understand how it works though, like how all the new students end up on it as well. That would mean that there must be some spell on the school, but then don't spells stop taking effect when their maker dies?? Does that mean that Lupin performed the spell (I doubt it was Peter)??
madmarauder123
I think they all did indivually parts. sirius and james probably drew the map, peter got the books necessary to find spells for it, and Lupin did the spell work. it would have taken them a while, but in the end, the reult was the marauders map. Go marauders! Except for Peter, who deserves to die by a slow acting rat poison in his food. And THAT little comment is why I'm in slytherin, folks. let that be a lesson to you; evil people have more fun.

marauderishly yours,

madmarauder
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