Well my favorite maurader is Sirius. I was sooo sad in the fifth book I think Sirius was the most helpful to Harry (since James died; Peter is a traitor; and Lupin, well, he helped a lot but not as much as Sirius) Sirius helped Harry understand about his father and i think that that was very important for Harry.

all i know is that i dont have a favorite well just put it this way i like all of them exept peter bc he is a traitor. otherwise i like the three who are NOT traitors. two of which were killed.

By the books alone, my favorite marauders are Sirius Black and Remus Lupin. I'm not for sure about James because we really don't have anything to go by other than a few flashbacks in the books/movies and the tons of fanfics, though I'm sure there had to be something like-able about him seeing as how Sirius Black was best friends with him and everything... and as far as we know, he died to protect Harry.

I've probably mentioned this before, but I'll reiterate, Sirius is definitely my favorite Marauder, followed by Remus, then James, then Peter. However, that being said, I kind of view Remus and James as being the most mature of the group. I think Sirius is great, but he can be a bit of a prat when it comes right down to it. At least Sirius (the adult version) can look back on his youth with 20/20 sight and see what a big goof he was.

I have to agree with you. Sirius is excellent. I can always respect a person who can admit they were wrong (or generally wrong all the time). Sirius had matured quite a bit. I wonder if it was Azkaban or the rest of life that sobered Sirius. I tend to think he calmed down as James did.

My favourite marauder would have to be... Remus Lupin, although Sirius Balck is a close second. Remus is more my personality. Try's his best in school, tries to keep in order and everything. Sirius is really cool. It is hard to explain but I agree, he can look back and see what he did wrong. I am not too fond of James for picking on Snape so much. Although Sirius did to. I cannot even consider Peter a marauder. He is dispickable.

People, before I say anything, I just want to say thanks to Prodfoot for clearing up that theory. But you know the whole thing about saving himself but not his wife and child - I'm still confused about why they all died. Was it just to protect Harry, or is the whole family important in some way?

Anyway, I must say that I disagree with Cobra on the subject of Peter. Although I'll agree that he's a coward, nasty and just ... bad, I think he was a Marauder for a reason. Sirius and James may not have been the most mature or even nicest people around (think Snape), but they weren't stupid, and Remus is probably more intelligent than Herms (although for how much longer, I'm not sure), so I can't see how they would have let Peter hang around with them.

But in the third book (I think), McGonangall says that Peter was always following them around (not exactly like he was a good friend). So that could say that he wasn't exactly a Marauder. But he was with them in Snape's memory (although they weren't exactly nice to him - or Sirius wasn't) and he was in on the Map. That all seems to point to something about him, doesn't it? Plus, his 'comments' on the Map don't seem to be the sort of things you'd expect him to say when you meet him as an adult (although I'm not sure how the map works, so they may not be things he'd really say anyway - although th rest of the stuff from Moony, Padfoot and Prongs seemed likely...)

Just ideas again. But in case anyone was wondering, my favourite Marauder is Sirius. He is my whole life - I think, dream and act him. Yes, I know it's very sad, but a teenage girl with an infatuation for a fictional character is a very sad being. He's wonderful though ...

What I meant is that I hate him and I don't count him as a marauder anymore. But of course for the points you stated and more, he was a marauder. I just meant taht he was a traitor and I don't think of him as a marauder. Anymore.

Wings, I reread some of HBP last night and it became clear in my head, Harry's parents HAD TO DIE to make Harry the vanquisher of LV.

HBP pp511-512 US Hardcover.

DD talking to Harry about the prophecy etc.


QUOTE
"If Voldemort had never heard of the prophecy, would it have been fulfilled? Would i have meant anything? Of course not! Do you think every prophecy in the Hall of Prophecy has been fulfilled?"



QUOTE
"Harry, Harry, only because Voldemort made a grave error, and acted on Professor Trelawney's word's! If Voldemort had never murdered your father, should he have imparted in you a furious desire for revenge? Of course not! If he had not forced your mother to die for you, would he have given you a magical protection he could not penetrate? Of course not, Harry! Don't you see? Voldemort himself created his worst enemy..."



QUOTE
"...you have never been seduced by the Dark Arts, never, even for a second, shown the slightest desire to become on of Voldemort's followers!"

"Of Course I haven't!" said Harry indignangly. He killed my mum and dad!"

IF LV hand't killed Harry's parents, Harry wouldn't have had as strong a desire to pursue him.





Don't forget the Marauders helped PP become an animagus. If he was just a Colin Creavy type would they have done that? I view him more as a less loveable Luna. He was there, harmless, and could contribute to the cause once or twice.

Cris

Hmm... Talking about all of this, then seeing this quote makes me wonder about something. The entire If Voldemort had never murdered your father ~ If he had not forced your mother to die for you ~ thing makes me question if James had died before Lily and Harry were taken to the safe house... Though I'm believe that Sirius mentioned something about telling James to change secret-keepers so this thought could be totally wrong

We have discussed that in other threads. Was James realy there that night? Could he have been coming back from an errand (taking the sword in the cloak to DD?) Or was he out in his animagus form, patroling?

We know he was killed before LV got to the house? But there is doubt as to whether he was at the house. like: when Harry tells Lupin he heard his father when the dementors (or bogart?) were around and Lupin was surprised.

Like: Harry does not know what his father's voices sounds like. He heard a male voice that he doesn't recognize. If there was another person there, he was not killed or he would have come out of LVs wand in the Piori Incantatem (or whatever). He could have used the invisibility cloak to escape for help...

Like: When JKR had direct input into the scene depicting LV coming to the house, James was very evidently NOT in the picture. Mom was, Harry was, LV was. James? No. Why? Why not show him standing straightbacked and proud?

LV did kill him, and it was probably that night but possibly not at GH. LV hasn't stated one way or the other but it wouldn't be important to him.

Even though most think DD didn't know about the maruaders as animagi (I think he did) LV knew, from PP. At least about Sirius. Why not about James?

Cris

Cris,
I don't think it is important that James was an animagi now that he is dead. The only thing that fact applied to, is the shape of Harry's Patronus. This is my theory:

DD knew that the marauders were all shapeshifters, and it didn't bother him. DD might have known about Peter's perfidy as well, and he let events take their course, because if he had just told Harry what the truth was instead of letting him discover it for himself it wouldn't have been as powerful.

We were discussing why Harry doesn't like the dark arts - because of the loyalty that he has towards his parents and the way they died. Well, move that into the loyalty that he ends up showing Sirius, and even Peter when he doesn't let Remus and Sirius kill Peter. He doesn't believe in 'the dark side of the force' even though he can be a bit hot tempered at times.

I hope that resembled a smooth train of thought. I do believe that James was their the night that AK backfired.

-Guin

Well, I have no proof to back this up, except a gut feeling. Here it goes: I think James was killed at GH trying to save Harry and Lily. As I said, no proof except a gut feeling.

The sorting hat did say that Harry Potter would've done well in Slytherin and by profiles of the other member within Slytherin, they have all edged more towards the Dark Arts... Had Voldemort not killed James and Lily, then Harry could've very well be interested within the Dark Arts. However, even if that were so, judging by both James and Lily (as well as Sirius and Remus) I doubt Harry would've actually went to the dark side.

As for the topic of James' death... I have a feeling that the male voice Harry heard could've been either him or Sirius - though if it had been Sirius, he would've taken Harry instead of letting Hagrid have him. On an off chance, it could've even been Peter!

Couldn't Harry have just been recomended for slytherin because he had a sort of "connection" with LV. Because he was in slytherin and is evil/Dark arts addicted. But then because LV killed his parents the hat decided not slytherin, and because of Harry's begging of not going to slytherin.

Hey guys!!! I've MISSED you all SO MUCH!!!!!!! So I haven't been on in forever, but never again will I go this long, swear!! So I see that we have lots of new members on here, well, it's a pleasure to meet you guys! My name is Chelsea! I do see that I need to find my old friends on here, I'll have to see when Taylor and Daniel last posted, hopefully they haven't abandoned the marauders like I did. At least I didn't miss marauder day!!

Lets see what we are all talking about...dum de dum! So yeah, doesn't it basically flat out say that in the book James was killed at Godric's Hollow? Voldemort killed Harry's dad first, then went after his mom (sorry if I have no idea what you guys are talking about, it has definitely been a while).

As for the Sorting Hat wanting Harry to be in Slytherin, well, there are a lot of reasons as to why that could have been, but I don't want to go off on that and get in trouble for discussing topics unrelated to the marauders.

Could someone do me a huge favor and catch me up a bit?

I agree, Chelsea. I think the book blatently(sp?) said taht LV killed James then Lily took Harry and ran to the bedroom then LV killed her? Let me know if I am off my rocker. I think that it said that and two people can't be that messed can we?

WOOOOOO! Hi everybody! Well, sorry about the overly enthusiastic greeting, but I'm just a teensy-weensy bit hyper. But that's another story, and I could have sworn there was something I wanted to say....

Ah yes, to Cobra, sorry that I misunderstood what you meant (I swear I seem to be forever doing that) - and I think I agree with you.

Cris (your username is far too long), thanks for the quotes - I might stop going on about that now (might!). And I can see what you mean about Peter being a bit like Luna - except for the fact that Luna is much cooler (but I think that was your point, so I won't push it).

This whole discussion about James being at GH on the night that all the Potters were killed is really quite interesting. It's also something I've never really thought about. Cobra and Chelsea, I think I do remember it saying somewhere in the book that when Voldie came, James died in an attempt to stop him killing his wife and son. So that sort of implies he was there. But I suppose he could have met LV on his wayback to the house, couldn't he? Also, that thing about the voice in Harry's head (which I agree may not be James because Harry never heard his voice) being Sirius - I thought that the reason that Hagrid got the bike was because Sirius said he wouldn't need it anymore - i.e. because he went to follow Peter. So he gave Hagrid the bike to get Harry out of there - a last 'godfatherly' act to justify him running off to beat up Peter and get revenge. But surely later on, after Harry met Sirius, he would have recognised his voice...

But couldn't the voice actually be Peter? Or is that stupid? I can't remembr exactly what the voice says though ... and I can't really see him stnding up for anyone... But maybe he saw it as a way to redeem himself. I don't know. Or lupin? But Harry would have recognised it, same as Sirius... Oh well, I don't know.

Well, I fear, my dears, that that is all I have to say today. I know that you must all be dreadfully upset and all, but I did my best. lol.

Wingz

Or even Em, if you like. - argh! I'm getting into the habit of signing off now!

Em, That would make a lot of sense. Peter was the one who screamed. I'm pretty sure Peter was there, JKR said (I think?) that Peter hid his and LVs wands after the incident. Peter could have followed LV as Rat Boy or gone with LV to the house.

He was remorseful after James died and yelled for Lily to run. he didn't know about the prophecy and the plan (DD and Snape's plan). He told her to run and turned Rat Boy again to escape.

James did die at the door. Peter was shocked and paniced.

I like!!!

Cris

I guess, but that all goes back to the whole secret keeper deal. Ok, sorry if I confuse people but I am kind of confused myself. Obviously the spell didn't keep James inside the house (thanks to the example from Grimmauld Place) and no one could find the house unless Peter told, but then what was stopping Voldemort from attacking the Potter family outside of his home? Voldemort was pretty excited when Peter told him about the Potter's whereabouts, but they weren't protected outside their home (like DD outside of Grimmauld Place) so why was it so important that Peter was the secret keeper, other then the fact that it made it easier to kill them (you have the element of surprise there). Did they just try to stay inside? There wouldn't really be a reason for James to be out unless he was doing something important, but I don't think the Order would ask him to do anything because DD knew he was in hiding. Ahh! Never mind, I'm just messing myself up!


Well, he has heard Peter talk before to so if that's the reason that you guys are crossing Lupin and Sirius off the list then Peter needs to go too. Lupin, by the way, couldn't have been there during the killing as he didn't know of the whereabouts of the Potter's. He couldn't have gotten inside the house. Oh, and if Peter was trying to redeem himself, plain and simple, Voldemort would have killed him right there on the stop. Personally, I'm pretty sure that it was James. Other then James' friends, no one else knew where they were and Harry knows all of his friends so they would have told him by now. The only others who could get in were Voldemort and Peter, and we know it wasn't either of them so yeah, I'm pretty set on James.

The important part is that Harry would not leave. Voldemort could kill James outside the house, but what purpose would that serve? Harry would still be hidden by the secret and be safe inside the house. Voldemort needed to know the secret so he could get to Harry.

Oh, of course, got it! Lol, I had a bit of a blank moment there! Thanks for clearing that up for me, I was seriously confusing myself!

I just found this thing about unsolved plots in the Harry Potter series in another forum and was wondering what you guys thought on the matter.



I'm sorry if this is out of place, I just didn't know where else to place it...

Those are very interesting facts. Although the fine guess for RAB does not mean anything, she could be saying it is fine because it makes sense, not nesseccarilly (sp?) correct. BAck to the point. do those have anything to be put together, like altogether or are they seperate plots?Lastly, I know it is the Mod's job but that has nothing to do with the marauders and is offtopic.

So yes, it definitely is out of place, but if you guys want to talk about it then we can make it work by taking pieces out.


Here is a bit on the marauders we can all discuss and I guess that I'll start (I don't know if you guys have ever talked about these, I know we have, but it's always nice to get new opinions on the matter).

So, why Sirius had to die. There is of course the obvious, stated by Jo herself, saying that in order for Harry to "do what he has to do," all of his mentors have to die. First he lost his parents, then Sirius, then DD...it was kind of necessary for them to die to get rid of Harry's protectors. He's growing up and he needs to finish the story by himself, without the grown ups that he talks to frequently. I was just wondering if you guys thought there was more to it then that. Like maybe he had to fall through the veil to discover some hidden secret that will help Harry.

As for Sirius and the two way mirror, well, I'm still hoping that he'll be able to contact Harry through use of the mirror. As I stated above, possibly give him some useful information that could help him defeat Voldemort.

I hope very much that it is allowed to pose a question in this club...and as a new debater, I look forward to having many interesting discussions with you all!

I am a huge fan of the Marauders, and I have tried a lot of things to get more information on them, but my question is, does anyone know what the family backgrounds of the Marauders (besides the Black family, of course) look like? I especially wonder about Remus, because we still don't know much about his character.

Welcome PuffskeinsRUs
James' background: Pureblood. parents are dead, died of normal wizarding ailment at old age. no siblings for James

Remus: half-blood. Dad ticked off Fenrir Greyback (so I think he was the wizard). Remus doesn't have a twin but don't know about other siblings.

Peter: we know nothing about and according to HP Lexicon we don't know for sure his house. It is assumed he was Gryffindor but nothing has been conclusively said. I guess we'll have to wait until the OoTP movie comes out (or the Lexicon info is old and I just don't remember if there was a direct refference to it.)

Since Peter followed them around I would assume they were dorm mates and there were only 4 of them, not 5 like with Harry's dorm mates....

Cris

WELCOME!!!!!!!!!!! It's good to see a new face around here!! You'll love it on this thread, we are like our own little special family!

To elaborate a bit more on what Cris said, here it goes (not that it wasn't covered magnificantly):

James- Cris got the main details and what not, I was just going to add that they must have been amazingly nice, caring people to take Sirius in like that when his own family didn't want him.

Peter: He was definitely in Gryffindor, but we don't know anything about his family.

Remus: Cris said everything we do know, but we actually ended up having a pretty great discussion on his family (based on opinion of course) in the SPELL thread a while back so maybe we can get going on that topic here since none of my other attempts at getting a real discussion going on here has worked. Anyone at all, feel free to comment (though, as always, feel free to change the topic, we just really need a true discussion going on in here instead of merely answering questions).

Hey, can I join? I was reading the first Marauder link, the one with 67 pages, when I got to the end I found that there is a different thread at that there are 59 pages in that one. I thought I was going to lose my mind. But anyways, you guys were talking about the secret-keeper? the topic sort of changed and I'm not sure what it is about so I'm sorry if this is random. You are all talking about the Marauders different backgrounds? Like what sort of families they came from? Everyone knows what sort of family Sirius comes from...

James- Mrs. and Mr. Potter. Nice people who were like Sirius' second parents and exceptionally friendly, easy going people (just guessing but what Sirius had said in the 5th book, I think ).

Peter- (Everyone seems to be talking about what his parental background was). I would say that (like everyone else) his parents were like Neville's Grandmother. Expecting more than possible for him and the end product being he is a poor wizard 'cause everyone expects something great from you. (Not trying to defend him, 'cause he's a murderous traitor Sorry had to get that out).

Remus- Only one thing we know for sure is that his dad ticked off Fenrir Greyback, and thats why Remus is a werewolf. His dad must be a wizard if his dealing with people like Greyback.

Again sorry if that wasn't up to speed with what all you guys were talking about and I'm really sorry if you have already mentioned those things before. (Which I think you have... sorry). I love all the Marauders ('cept Peter) they are all really samrt and brave.


Marauders all the way

Here is a new question to ponder. The Marauders were very close in Hogwarts. When James started dating Lily, how do you think the others responded? How, if at all, did that change the dynamic of the group?

I don't think it would be Lily dating James that would change the dynamic of the group. If anything did change it, it would have to be growing up and reaching adulthood. Just like kids graduating from high school. They still value the friendships they made in school, but they start their own life and go in their own direction whether it's college, job, traveling, etc. Seeing as how they were growing and maturing, they more than likely accepted Lily and was happy for James.

Padfoot, Prongs and Moony: Of course you can join!! Welcome, welcome!!!!


I am going to agree with LittleRed7771 here, I don't believe that it would have changed their friendship much. Sirius, Peter, and Remus all knew that James had liked Lily for ages so I am sure that they were beyond thrilled when the two of them hooked up as any good friend would be. The only difference I could see is that they would have had to pick on Snape more discreately (sp?), which shouldn't have been too big of a deal. Lily was a nice girl, I'm sure they didn't have any problem with her hanging around.

In the later books, whenever Sirius and Remus spoke of her it was always in the highest regard. They were all the very best of friends and no one was going to ruin that, she was probably just kind of an unofficial member of their group.

Then, of course, there is always the whole "your mother was there for me at a time when no one else was" line (was that in the book or only in the movie-I just looked in the book but couldn't find it) from Remus. Anyways, Jo approved of it being in the movie so I am going to go off of it anyways. Lily was one of the brightest in her year and, like Hermione, she may have recognized the fact that Remus was a werewolf first. Of course the rest of the marauders figured it out in time, but Lily may have been there for hm first, when he felt like an outsider, like no one would understand him. Lily was described as being "uncommonly kind" (once again the movie) so I am sure that she made a great friend and Remus may have enjoyed having her aroound again.

Sirius I am sure didn't care as long as he still got to torture Snape. Maybe the marauders couldn't do it around Lily, but, as stated in the books, they found ways of doing it when she wasn't watching. Plus, by their final year they would a lot more mature so the pranking probably boiled down a lot to the occassional prank on Snape.

Peter was basically a follower. He did whatever the others wanted so I am sure that he too didn't mind.

The friendship that the marauders have is unbreaking and I am sure that nothing could get in the way of that. Friends first and forever.

~Chelsea~

Oh, sorry for the long post, I didn't notice I wrote so much!

I should have been more clear. I figured your points were a given. I should have phrased my question as such: How do you think her presence impacted the dynamic the group had when interacting with others?

Clearly, she would not allow them to torture others. By that time, I think they grew-out of their phase (for the most part). But do you think her presence would have forced James and Sirius to be nice to those they did not like (such as Snape) when Lily was present?

How do you think her presence impacted the dynamic the group had when interacting with others?
good question. Well, I think he did not let them just randomly out of the blue levicorpus someone, but if it was Severus or someone hexed or tried to hex them first she might understand.

I think it's very possible that the Marauders were not impacted by Lily. James most likely was, of course, because he spent much time with her. He was probably a bit more mellowed out or something. But I don't think, especially for Sirius, that the Marauders made any changes for her. They probably just kept right on with their usual routines, with or without James, as his time with Lily allowed.

Hey guys! Sorry that this is a bit off topic, I'll post about the marauders in a second! So, most of you guys are pretty new and don't know about all the cool stuff we use to do on this thread! I thought that maybe you guys would be interested in starting some of it up again. First off, in my signature I keep track of internet galleons and, basically, we use to have a lot of contests and stuff on this thread, then the winner would be awarded internet galleons. Then the person with the most galleons on Marauder Day (June 21st in light of the fact that it was the day that we all found out Sirius had fallen through the veil...it was the release of the 5th book) wins a prize. If anyone has any ideas on games or comments, suggestions, or you want to get involved with the internet galleons then just PM me. I think we've done things like had a marauder Christmas short story contest and a best marauder prank contest so if you guys are interested then just let me know and I'll get it set up! Sorry about being off topic!


I doubt it. Lily knew that James and his pals had a problem with Snape so I don't think she would have made them act nicely towards him. I mean, she doesn't seem like she is too fond of him either based on the way she acted in the memory. She just wasn't too fond of James feeling he had the right to randomly curse him because he was more skilled. They probably just ignored him when Lily was around, and if he attacked them I am sure they got their revenge later, when Lily wasn't around.

Even though I posed the question, I wish to offer my thoughts now. Sirius really did not like Snape, as a youth and as an adult. He would likely continue to hex Snape regardless of Lily's presence. I think her presence would have had a greater impact upon James. I don't think James would have been willing to hex or curse Snape when Lily was there. Didn't Sirius say Snape was a special case when it came to their 'boyish endeavors?'

I suppose James would have tried to reign in Sirius's hexes, only to be teased when Lily had gone.

I don't know. Yes Lily would obviously have a greater impact on James, but Sirius' love for his friends runs deeper then his hate for Snape so I would think that he layed off when Lily was there. She would have gotten mad at James if his best friend hexed Snape right in front of them and no one did anything to stop him. His friends, even Sirius, understood the situation and I'm sure they could all contain their hate for Snape until later for James.


Yeah, but I think that meant about hexing in general, not about in front of Lily. By the time they had hit their 7th year, Sirius said that James' head had deflated a lot and the marauders had stopped hexing people for no reason, but Snape was a special case. They still had ample opportunity to hex him, just not when Lily was there out of respect for her and James' relationship.

I am not so sure. I still think Sirius would have hexed Snape, even when Lily was present. She would of course scold him, but I think he would have shrugged it off laughingly. He might feel guilty later, but Sirius doesn't strike me as the type who would change his beheavior simply because someone tells him it is wrong. He would need to think it is wrong for himself first. He could be persuaded, but he can be stubborn.

I would think that by the time they had reached their 7th year, James & Sirius would have grown more mature, if not tired, of torturing Snape. I know Sirius had a lot of respect for J/L's relationship, but I don't think he felt that what happened between them and Snape had any relevance to it. And as someone mentioned earlier, Lily was known to be "uncommonly kind" so wouldn't Sirius just brush it off as a girl thing and continue as they always had? I agree with After the Burial, he's super stubborn.

True, true, I guess you do have a point! I'm still not sure he would have hexed him right in front of her though. I mean, obviously James would want to help, but he wouldn't be able to if Lily was right there and the two of them usually worked together (not that Sirius couldn't handle him on his own of course). I just think that they would have waited until later in the day to get their revenge, that way James and Sirius could get him back together as a team. From what we've heard, they always worked together while they were in school. Plus, Lily couldn't have been there that much. As it said in the book, it isn't like Lily and James took Snape on dates with them or anything. And I am sure that if Snape hexed them Lily wouldn't object to them defending themselves as long as it was humane, then they could go back and get their true revenge later.


Hehehehe, I doubt that ever happened! You saw Sirius in OotP, their hate for one another runs pretty deep. As it stated in the book, Snape was always a special case when it comes to hexing people for no true reason.

i agree with HP rules. i think that snape was always going to be a special case for both james and sirius. if snape attacked then they would both attack him back regarless of the people around. they were no strangers to detention were they.

So I got the 14,000th view. Is that worth anything? Maybe one or two sickles? Anyhow, I think we need a new topic. We do not talk about Peter very much in this thread. How's about we change that for a day or two and find something good to say about him?

He was a loyal pet for 12 years.

Wow that was lame.

He had to be a decent friend for the Marauders to let him hang out with them, at least better than Snape....


Cris

Something good about Peter?!?!?!? What is this?!?! Lol, I'm just kidding! Fine, fine, lets see! Oh, and I do believe that the 14,000 view is good for about 5 galleons, fair? I'll go add them in!


Hehehehe, that he was! I like it!

And there was also what Cris said about him having to be decent to hang out with the marauders. I mean, they did make him his secret keeper after all, which means that they must have trusted him. Ummmm, I guess he can be loyal when he wants to be ( ). And, um, well, yeah, that's all I can think of really. He wasn't very good at anything, but I guess that he had to be decently smart to turn into an animagus. Yes he did have James and Sirius' help, but in the end he did have to make the transformation by himself. And that's it! No more! I'm done!

~Chelsea~

This is hard for me because i purely dispise Peter even though he was one of the marauders. Anyway though, he would have to be a decent friend to hang with the marauders. As was said. He would have to have some brains to be able to turn into an animagus. Even with help.

Either that or he was really really lucky which I believe was the case. That and he had rather good luck in PoA when Remus transformed and allowed him to escape... and he isn't dead yet so that shows somewhat luck...

PS: I love your avatar Cobra

*gasp*

I love the Marauders!!! I want to be in this club!!! can I??? I hope I can!!

im gonna answer some of those questions from the old thread

1) Who's your favorite Marauder and why? (You CAN say Peter, but he IS the reason one of our beloved Marauders isn't around any more )

Padfood aka sirus black because I have always liked sirus. not sure why....

2) When'd you become a Marauder fan?

ever since I read the 3rd book I thought they were all hilarous geniuses for making the Marauders Map. I just about died when I read the part about snape trying to read it!

Ok, I really don't think that it was just a matter of Peter getting lucky. I mean, to become an animagus requires a lot of really difficult magic, I don't think it's something that you can just luck in to. I think it was a combination of help from James and Sirius with skill.


WELCOME Potter_nerd!!!!!! It's good to see more people with appreciation for the marauders and their brillance!!

Ok guys, so I do have another topic if you guys want to switch (I borrowed Daniel's magic hat):
What do you think that each of the Marauders' role will be in the final book? This should keep everyone occupied for a little while, there is a lot to say! I'll answer that one later. If you don't like that one, do you think that the Marauder's Map with play a role in the Deathly Hallows?

Now, with Marauder Day just a few days away (the 21st) I figure that everyone who wants to participate should probably get a move on! So, here are all of the contests that we have outlined (please let me know if you guys have any other ideas). Ok, so, there will be:
~The Marauder alphabet (each letter of the alphabet has to describe something Marauder)~
~A Marauder prank contest~
~A Marauder short story contest (if it's too long please just PM it)~
~A Marauder trivia contest (if someone wants to write out questions, see who can answer them correctly...both the question maker and the answerer will be rewarded)~
~And finally, the internet galleon contest (whoever has the most by the end of the day will win a prize...and I know that some of you haven't been on as long so you haven't had time to gather that many, but I will be giving out tons on the 21st)~

So basically, how this is going to work is for one day you guys can post all your stuff up on this thread and at the end of the day myself and Cris (I believe that's who Taylor gave her job to, you can correct me if I'm wrong) and Daniel if he comes back will judge you guys and announce the winners. Everyone will get galleons for participating though!

*Note: Ok, so we got permission to do this ages ago, but we do need some order! Please write at the top of your post what contest you wish to enter and keep everything marauder related!!!!! Also, this is for one day only, after that we will need to resume regular discussion! This is just for fun so enter whatever you want for fun! This isn't going to work if no one enters!!!!

~Chelsea~

Oh my gosh! I haven't been on here for, like, aaageeeessssss. That is just not good enough, Emily, dear. I expect improvement in the future. Well, now that I've introduced you all to my schizophrenia (which, you may be excited to know, it is almost certain that I have - I'm actually going mad...and you don't want to know how scary that is...), I shall continue.

I can't believe I missed so many great discussions! *sniff* So, sorry if this brings the same old topics back, but I just want to write my last thoughts on some of them. Sorry if anyone is offended.

Right, back to the whole secret keeper thing. Yes, I guess Harry would have recognised Peter's voice too. Darn. That blows my whole theory out the window...But the reason I never thought of that (I think) was because I always seem to think that Peter's voice changed. I don't know. Just from spending so long as a rat. But that has no proof, so I'll just shut up now. So I guess it was James.

Now, the thing about Lily. Well, I know the question was changed to referring to nteractions with others, but can I answer the other one first? Personally, I think that Lily and James' relationship would have changed the Marauders' relationship slightly. lthough I must agree with whoever said (sorry, I can't remember exactly who it was) that there love is unbreaking and everlasting. It's true. But I think that it would have led to, along with the fact that they were all growing up anyway, a sort of distancing (not in a bad way - I can't really find a way to explain exactly what I mean). I mean, James and Sirius would still have been best buddies and all that, but just not quite so close as before, or in a mature way. Look at it this way: if you compare the best friend relationships in children/teenagers and adults, there is a difference even though they are equally strong bonds. I hope that makes sense. I just mean that it might have prompted the Marauders to grow up a bit quicker.

But I have this problem. I really don't remember it ever saying that James and Lily got together in school - oh wait, actually it might have said that they got together in seventh year. Sorry about that.

Ok, now the question about interacting with othrs, e.g. Snape. I must agree with everyone who thinks that Sirius would have been as obnoxious to Snape as ever (oh, I do love the man [Sirius, not Snape - although he's lovely too..] ). I mean, Sirius might have got less close to James (I think that's inevitable) but he was never one, as far as we know, to let other people convince him that easily. And the only people who seem to have been able to are James and Remus (although mostly James). I actually think that it would have taken quite a bit of persuasion on Lily's part to convince James to stop hexing Snape - in the Memory, he tells Lily cockily that 'it's more the fact he exists really' as a reason to justify their bullying. And, yes, I know, James' head had deflated a lot, but I don't see his attitude to Snape changing that much. He would definitely have still hexed Snape a lot 'in private', but I don't think he'd have stopped totally in public. It was also part of his image as joint leader of the Marauders and 'Anti-Snape League' - and I don't see James becoming so different that he stops playing to a crowd. Not that that's a bad thing.

Hmm...now it's on to saying nice things about Peter. I'm going to try and find things that you haven't already said. If I can. Oh, and Cris, your joke (about him being a good pet for twelve years) made me laugh. Lol.

Well, Peter ... he's ... um ... he's very loyal. I mean, yes, he betrayed the Marauders, but he can't help being a coward. But how many people can say that even if they were scared to death of their master and their ex-friends, who can say that they would cut off their own hand to make the former rise again - in which case, he'd be much more dangerous to Peter than as a mutated child thing. And he nursed Voldie for God knows how long. I know this isn't really in a good context, but if you think about it right, it's a good quality. And if he betrayed the Maruaders, maybe he'll betray Voldie too someday ...

Can I think of anything else? Well, he feels guilty about causing James and Lily's deaths (I think). That's good. If he was the secret keeper (yes, I know it's unlikely, but I just like the idea), then he tried to get Lily to run - which was trying to save her life.

That's all I can think of. It's mighty good to be back, chaps. But I'm afraid that I may not be on as often as I'd like to (if anyone cares) because: a) I have a GCSE coming up, so wish me luck (but it's my last one til next year, so I'll be able to come on more after that) and I have this thing called Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, or Post Viral Syndrome, which means that I get ridiculously tired easily from reading, going on PC, etc. (I'm completely off sport until at least next year) and I can't cocentrate, and I get a stupid amount of migraines. Just so you know. So don't be offended if I don't seem that coherent or interested because I don't come on very often or my posts make no sense.

Em

Lots of love to y'all, as a late birthday present from me. Yes, I'm giving you all a present even though it's my birthday (or was a while ago, but I was kind of indisposed by being constantly asleep, and doin GCSEs when I was awake).

Sorry, I didn't see that post about the contest! That's such a great idea! I think I'm going to try a Marauder Alphabet. It involves least thought - and for reasons mentioned above in my last post, that's a good thing. Some are going to be predictable, obviously. And most have comments from me. As you will see.

Animagi (it took me ages to think of this - I must be going mad)
Brotherly (as in 'affection') - I was going to write Betrayed. Use whichever you like.
Comrades
Detentions (hehe..)
Extrovert (mostly)
Family (well, they're a family for each other, aren't they - this may not really count, but I don't know)
Gallant (Well, Remus always is, and I expect the others must have been at least vaguely, to be such a hit with the girls )
Hogwarts
Intelligent .. or Inseparable, I can't decide
James
Keeper (as in Secret - lol. reference to earlier discussions)
Lily (the subject of much teasing of James, I expect - I hope this counts)
Marauders Map (I wasn't sure just 'Marauders' counted)
Nark (Peter is a nark, or informer, for Voldemort)
Original (well, their pranks must have been)
Peter
Quidditch (well, James was captain, and the others might have played)
Remus
Sirius (predictable, I know)
Trouble (follows them around...)
Untameable
Virtuous (as in the way that they always, except Peter, stick to the good side)
Wizards (unoriginal, I know)
Xenophobic (with regard to them being a rather exclusive group) (must ... not ... write ... xylophone ... - or X-rated, for that matter)
Young (well, while they were all alive, they were - and none of them are really old)
Zany (lol. My teachers use this to describe me)


I'm not sure if that was what you wanted. But I thought I'd do this too - not that it has to be entered for the competition. This is just for fun:

Misunderstood
Animagi
Roam
Around,
Usefully
Discovering
Exciting
Risky
Secrets

Lol. It's pretty bad, I know. But I had to write it. Sorry for any pain caused.

Now I must shut up before you all die of boredom