Amyrat151
Oct 24 2006, 02:21 AM
This is for the Sophia Coppola movie that was released in the US last Friday and the discussion of it. Which is usually what threads are for, discussing.
But I guess I could give my review. The ads for this movie really did deliver what it promised. A profile of a bubbly teen age girl who was fashion forward, loved to party, and was tragically inept when it came to politics. An old time Carrie Brashaw who loves her Manolo Blahniks. For the most part I enjoyed it a lot because it was very much like my own view of Marie, and Kirsten delieved a very believable performance. But I only have three problems with the movie. Two is a technical thing; one is a story/history thing.
I thought the pacing was incredibly slow, almost to the point of annoyance; the movie could of (and in my opinion should of) been at least 30 minutes shorter. Example, it shows her she getting up, going to church, and eating with Louis like 5 times, when the jobs could have been done in 2 or 3.
Also the dialouge was grabled a lot of the time, maybe I'm just hearing inpaired but I had troblue understanding what was being said during certain periods.
My other problem with the film is how indifferent Louis XVI and Marie felt to me. It's true that their bed was ice cold for 6 years of their marriage, and the indifference fit the situation then, but I think they loved each other very much at the end of their lives and historical document reflects that. According to Marie Therese, her first and last child to die, "she (Marie Antoinette) no longer had any hope left in her heart or distinguished between life and death," after Lou was killed on the giant razor.
xXTonksXx
Oct 24 2006, 07:37 AM
i havent seen it yet but i saw an ad for it on TV. i dont know when its coming out here though. it looks really good but not many people have heard of it here.
SpinJam
Oct 31 2006, 07:07 PM
I saw it, and was fascinated by the relevance to our society today, how we can be so obsessed about our "Royalty" (the rich and famous) and how what they do on a day to day basis has no grounding in the reality of most people's lives. I felt the movie showed the ineptitude that two young people would have trying to rule a large country like France without fully understanding the politics, and problems of the people that they are ruling. Louis was right when he said "We are too young." Now that of course doesn't excuse him or his advisers, and it certainly doesn't excuse M.A. either.
I think the repetition was in there to show the viewer just how tedious their life could be if they stuck to all of the rules of the court, and that one does need to break the mold when one is the head of state.
My general impression of the movie, was yeah it's okay, but isn't it amazing how the lives of the rich and famous have changed so little (i,e, Paris Hilton, etc.) in the last 250 years.
Amyrat151
Nov 1 2006, 03:47 PM
I understod that that was the purpose of the repetition , but I think that the job could of been done with less of it. I kept thinking "Ok, I get it."
One thing I didn't say before is that I really enjoyed Kirsten in this movie. She's not a dumb blonde in any way so I think she gave a certian amount of depth to Maire.
Spencer Potter
Nov 2 2006, 02:44 AM
Uhm well I liked the movie Marie Antoinette but I didnt like her herself. I mean she was a selfish.. nevermind. She spent money she never had, I was watching the old version and this is a quote directly from it.
"Oh, I have ran out of money, ohwell, I guess Ill have to have my husband pay for it, He is the King you know. Hahaha".
Shut up^^.
Amyrat151
Nov 2 2006, 09:12 PM
But Marie didn't really have a consept about what things cost. And no one ever explained it to her. Louis XVI really wasn't meant to be king. And he didn't have an advisor like Cardinal Richelieu for Louis VIII. And really things strated to go bad towards the end of Louis XIV's rein because he spent all the money on wars.
So really, the problem started before her, and she unforanetly was the one who made it worse.
Spencer Potter
Nov 3 2006, 04:14 AM
Oh I can name the numerous things that brought Louis XVI into decline, war, loss of jobs, the monarchy, Miss.Antoinette and her outrageous spending, Palace of Versailles. Yikes!
Amyrat151
Nov 6 2006, 02:50 PM
I think maybe my point was lost. That France was in fincal ruin 50 years before Louis XVI took the the throne. The blame hardly falls with Marie alone, but I'm not saying that she didn't make things much worse, but she was an easy scape goat because she was Austrian, and he and Louis didn't consumate their marriage for 6 years.
connie182
Jul 8 2007, 10:36 PM
THE COOLEST MOVIE I EVER SEEN...
KRISTEN ACTS REALLY REALLY GOOD....
ALSO GOOD SOUNDTRACK, WITH NEW ORDER, BOW WOW WOW ,etc...
EVERYBODY LOVES IT JEJEJEJE
Layla
Jul 11 2007, 07:01 PM
I think that the movie was very good. Kirsten Dunst did a good job acting the lead. I only wished that they had told the whole story. I mean, wasn't Marie Antoniette eventually caught and killed...or something of the sort? I just wanted to see or at least read about what had become of the rest of her life.
Overall, the acting was well done.
Meredith Meadows
Nov 28 2007, 05:41 PM
I didn`t saw the film yet but I know pretty much about Marie Antoinettes life.
She was born as Maria Antonia Josepha Johanna of austria in vienna on 2. November 1755.
She got married to Louis Auguste on 16. May in 1770, she was only 14 years old.
Marie gave birth to 4 children: Marie Therese Charlotte, Dauphin Louis Joseph Xavier, Louis Charles and Sophie Helene Beatrice, who died as baby.
She got executed on 16. october 1793 at 12.00 o`clock at the place today known as
Place de la Concorde
Louis Joseph died on 4. June 1789
Louis Charles died on 8. June 1795
Sophie Beatrice died on 18. June 1787, she was barely one year old.
Only Marie Therese survived and died at the age of 73 on 18. october 1851
Marie Antoinette has no living descendants
rockchick101
Dec 1 2007, 06:53 PM
I loved the film! It was colourful, fun, had great actors and was well written. I don't know much about the history behind the French Revolution so I can't say whether or not all the details were correct but I'm learning about it so I might be able to debate later.
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