In OoTP,she helped Harry get through his hearing and not get expelled.She seemed like a nice girl.

But in HBP,she was murdered.Any particuler reason?She doesnt seem like the type to be a Death Eater(she was in the M.O.M...duh ),so why was she murdered?




Your idea's?

Hi

I dont know whether im making this up....but wasnt there a part in OotP when the girl at hogwarts (amelia bones' neice) said that a member of her family was killed by death eaters...if she did then is it me or are they targeting the Bones family??(but i couldve made that up i really cant remember if i read that or not! hehehe)...mayb they just killed her because she worked at the ministry

good question though...i need to think a bit more about it

D.A

Interestingly, Amelia Bones had received a lot of attention in OotP and was projected to play major role in the ministry post Fudge. The speculations were further fueled when JKR announced that teher would be a new minister of magic and I bet most would have automatically thought of Amelia Bones. JKR probably had different plans, and Rufus Scrimgeour's confrontation with Harry forms an important aspect of that.

Remember that she's repeatedly emphasised that one of the reasons why she killed off Sirius (apart from the fact that she's not too fond of Sirius @#$%) and Dumbledore was she wanted to make it difficult for Harry or rather not too easy. From this one can assume that she will have Harry fulfill his tasks with minimal assistance outside his friend circle and I doubt Snape too would have any meaningful role to play. In such circumstances, it suits her plans to have a kind of uncooperative and confrontational relationship between Harry and the ministry. Having someone like Amelia Bones at helm would actually have Harry and the ministry being quite cooperative with each other, since Harry had dealt with Amelia Bones before and knew that she was a fair person.

Now a strictly speaking in canon terms, it is not unusual in political circles to have your rivals eliminated and that's what may have happened to Amelia Bones. She was a high ranking official in the ministry and as such her protection must have been of high grade. One can't miss the similarities between the murder of Harry's parents and that of Amelia Bones. It is entirely possible that she was betrayed by someone in the ministry itself, perhaps by a group of people who would not have liked to see Amelia Bones at the helm. It remains to be be seen, who actually killed her. Death Eaters may have had inside help.

Hey guys, this is just to let you know that I'm moving this topic to the Half Blood Prince Discussion forum.

Incidentally, I agree with mayfair. The ministry are almost like a flat character, mainly there to represent ambition in a form that isn't evil, but still negative. It's a self-serving entity, with no real desire to let good prevail.

Amelia Bones doesn't fit that description exactly, and I really like the idea that she was betrayed by fellow Ministry employees.

With Fudge in control, they seemed to be in sympathy with LV's aims if not his methods. Mc Nair is a DE and he's in the ministry. There's always the possibility that one of the Bones may be, or was, RAB. LV seems to agree with W, "If you're not with me, you're against me". Remember how hard Slughorn was working to appear neutral. The scene where he was being recruited by Harry probably shows how a lot of prominent people are thinking.

I agree with you D.A. It seems that the Bones family is a target Susan Bones said in HBP(I think thats the right book) that lots of her aunties,uncles,and cousins had died at the hand of one of the Death Eaters. I wonder why they seem to target them?

Maybe Amelia Bones was murdered because like so many other people that have been offed by Death etaers and Voldy in the past she may have known too much? It's just a thought. But maybe after Harry's hearing in HBP where she presided over, and she was one of the M.O.M memebers that truly believed Harry had done the right thing in what he did, fighting off dementors in the presence of cousin Dudley, a muggle. Maybe because of the losses her family had suffered she had sympathy with Harry and this in turn sealed her fate. In my opinion I think that it is because she sided with Harry and that she may have known more about the crooked goings on at the Ministry than most people did, and she had to be killed off because of this.

thankyou Herm-own-ninny809

It just seemed odd to me how many of her family had been targetted...wasnt it OotP when the death eaters escaped and everyone was questioning her and others whose family had been affected by them?? well i cant remember but when it said how amelia bones had died in HBP i thought that for some reason an unusual amount of members of the bones family had been killed....i dont know i just thought they were some kind of target....i guess we'll see in the next book huh?!

Most of Amelia's family was killed because they fought against Voldemort in the first go around. I believe that there are spys in the ministry for Voldemort. I think they were watching her incase Dumbledore or someone came snooping around the ministry looking for information.

Remember when Dumbeldore told Harry that he searched "records" to find more about what LV was up to after he left the school. He had to search "records" to find people who may still be alive to question about Riddle. Where did Dumbledore get his information about Morphin? Amelia was the Head of the Department. I think she helped Dumbledore and told him where Morphin could be found and the info about what happened to Hepzibaugh's house elf.

I also think that LV got wind of it and questioned her himself. That is why they believe she was killed by LV not by the DE. He wanted to find out what she told and what she knew.

Correct me if im wrong but before we find out amelia bones ahs been killed do we not learn tht other members of the bones family have been killed in ootp after the escape of the death eaters we find out other members of the bones family have been killed. I expect it has already been discussed but it jumbed out at me after reading the books recently. Possibly she was killed because she tried to help Harry stay in Hogwarts at his disciplinary hearing. Maybe Voldemorts master plan ivolved Harry gettin expelled. He sent dementors upon him knowing he would have to use magic to save himself and Duddykins. By readin papers he new the ministry would not tolerate this as they hated Harry. When Harry didnt get expelled it foiled V's plan set him back. we KNow before he has had spies in the ministry how hard would it be to find out Amelia Bones had supported him in the trial and praised him so openly. Just an idea

well im gonna say this and i dont care what you guys think

i think it was rufus that set her up (yeah the now minister of magic) hes in with Voldy and hes gonna try to take over everyone by having voldy take out anyone in his way

rufus knew that amilia would get the job because alot of people like her so he made a deal with voldy and he got her taken out

i believe voldys gonna want rufus to do something for him, or get harry close to him
something
just my idea

I think she was killed to show how serious the war was going. In the first couple of pages in the book, we learn a character we're familiar with has been killed, maybe even by Voldemort himself. And in the previous book, we learn from Susan Bones that most of her family has been killed by Death Eaters, so they weren't exactly on Voldemort's good side.

Amelia Bones, in my opinion, was killed for mainly two reasons. She wasn't on Voldemort's side and she was a high-ranking ministry official. You see, she oversaw many hearing regarding people who have broken the wizarding law and most likely had a very big role in determining their sentence (even though serious cases were held in front of a full court, Ameila Bones was most likely an influencing voice who asked most of the questions). Also, it is mentioned in OoTP that sheis very fair...now would Voldemort want a fair person trying over his Death Eaters? nah

Yeah i agree she was too decent and too light-sided to be a part of the ministry when Voldemort had it seized... an obstacle that the Dark Lord couldn't ignore...

I agree with the two people above me, and I would also like to add that due to Amelia Bones inquisitive personality, she would have been a difficult person to fool in DH when Voldemort infilitrated and took over the MoM. She would have noticed something odd, and also would have raised an objection, being the fair person she was.

It is very possible that Amelia Bones was killed because of her talents as a witch and also because she sat on the Wizengamot and assisted Harry in staying at Hogwarts. Voldemort didn't like anyone assisting with Harry or anyone of power. We know her family has been targeted as fighting against Voldemort from the beginning and maybe Voldemort felt like it was just best to dispose of her early.
Her death shows a couple of things. First it shows us how dangerous the world is becoming. Her death was pretty public and even in all the muggle papers. Voldemort wasn't giving a hoot about who died, where or how and that was coming dangerously close to breaking the International Statutes of Secrecy. Secondly, it shows us that Voldemort is willing to kill whoever, whenever for no reason at all. Amelia wasn't particularly involved directly in the fight against him yet he had her murdered. It was almost like Voldemort killed her as an example. To show the world that he could get you anywhere. That he chose who died and there was little the Ministry, the muggles or anyone could do about it.

I think that the murder of Amelia Bones was Voldermorts way of showing how far he could reach and that NO ONE was safe. In a way it was a power trip as i think all he really wanted to achieve was to show everyone how dangerous and how much of a threat he was to even to most magically capable witches/wizards, anything else he gained from her death was just a bonus.

I think she was murdered because JK wanted to show how powerful Voldemort was getting. Amelia Bones was supposed to be a really powerful witch, right? So if she could be killed, everyone was in trouble. She was also a big part of the Ministry of Magic, so that could have affected their power.