Ron gave Hermione a perfume as a Christmas present, guess he felt that Harry can give better presnts so why bother?

I agree that perfume is a sort of strange Christmas gift for Hermione, even she couldn't find a better adjective for it than "unusual!"

Oh, I don't know....perfume is a very personal gift. Friends don't usually buy each other perfume...your partner usually gives gifts like that. I don't remember him giving her perfume in OotP anyway....was that in the Christmas chapters?

Yeah it was for Christmas. I think it's just more comedy value ~ ron gave her perfume that stank like rotten stuff ~Its hardly romantic!!!!

I feel sad for Ron.

Hardly romantic? Maybe Ron just has bad taste in perfume.... I think that's foreshadowing that him and Hermione will get together!! Yeah, I'm a PROUD R/Hr shipper! So anything like that is foreshadowing to me! LOL

Yes well, If your boyfriend/girlfriend got you perfume that is completely awful you'd be a little turned off by it.

Even if it was a completely platonic relationship.

The perfume might have been perfectly fine, it's just that Hermione knows Ron has a crush on her and if she said anything too nice about it that just would have encouraged him.

Hmm, probably OotP (this happened in book five right?) was at the point where Ron just realized that he really liked Hermione. You know Ron doesn't really have experience with girls, so he probably had tough time picking out a gift. Getting perfume for her was practically telling her that he liked her, eh to me at least.

But I don't get why a boyfriend getting purfume for his girlfriend is a turn off...I would be happy if my boyfriend got me purfume (although I don't even wear it, hehe)

I think it is because Ron is just a little messed up by everything and he really has no clue what he is doing. You saw what happened with Padma at the Yule Ball.

I thought Ron got it for her as a birthday present, because I remember it happening pretty early on in the book.

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heres a theory..Ron likes Hermione..thats why he gave a perfume

Yes but perhaps when you consider the type of girl Hermione is. The book was probably prefered.

Perhaps you should move it to the ships thread!

It just shows that Ron likes Hermione as more than a friend.

Now let me get this straight before I say this: I'm a BIG supporter of the R/Hr ship and I want nothing more than for them to get together. That being said:

Just because Ron gave her the perfume (and this shows that he feels more than friendship for her) it doesn't mean that Hermione feels the same way. (while I think she does, this just doesn't prove it). This gift only proves how Ron feels about Hermione and not the other way around.

It is a way of Harry knowing Hermione better in the way that he knew she wanted a book.

And a way of Ron being oblivious to Hermione's interests with the perfume.

I think I said it before.

Perhaps you could move it to the ships thread.!!!

It really means something when a GUY, goes to some place like "Victoria's Secret" and gets perfume for a girl for her birthday. Trust me, I already feel uncomfortable in Bath and Body Works. Although we don't know where Ron went to get that stuff, he could have just gotten a book. It would have saved him the embarrassment of being in a girl's store and being made fun of. It's either he's a really good friend or he really likes her and wants to impress her.

What Hermione meant by unusual? That could signify "unique". Or it could mean it smells funky. But he actually went to get it with no knowledge of perfume (assuming it was a bad-smelling or "unusual" smelling perfume).

Mmm...I'm afraid I'm gonna have to agree with Kreacher. I mean, I don't think there's any doubt that Ron thinks very highly of Hermione for him to go get her something as personal as perfume, but it still highlights how little he understands and respects her. If he did, he would have gotten her something a bit better suited to her rather than something which he thought she would like. There is a difference...

I mean, Harry got her a book..demonstrating understanding, respect and tolerance for the way that she is. She got Harry a broomstick servicing kit because she understands Harry.....she had obviously thought about the gift before she got it.

That's the thing about gifts. People should be grateful for the thought, but then a thoughtless gift...like buying a heavy metal CD for someone who likes Kylie Minogue, is worse, IMO, than not getting anything at all. Not that I'm saying Rons' gift was thoughtless, because it wasn't....in many ways, it was very sweet.....but Harry's gift was more thoughtful....you know?

Mmm....I guess.....yeah. I suppose it just depends on which way you look at it really.

One more thing occurred to me yesterday though after I'd already posted.....Ron doesn't have much money, so maybe that's why he couldn't get her the best of perfumes....when I realised that, I almost cried to think how horrible I'd been about it!!! Poor Ron....maybe it was the best he could have done....which makes it just about the best, most thoughtful, most touching gift he could possibly have gotten her....

If I were Ron I would save lots of money to impress my crush(if he likes Hermione).

And I would also like a great perfume like Curious from Britney Spears.

I am unsure about whether Ron gets any pocket money at all. But anyway. I have to agree with Dana on this one.

that would make sense!! everyone always think of her as a brainy know it all. it was sweet for ron to get her something...different than what she would have expected


i dont know but i think that the perfume symbolizes something...

DUHHH...how can people be so unemotional? i mean, its really touching and cute and highly romantic that ron gave hermione a perfume...my dad bought my mum a perfume on their anniversary, my sister got a perfume from her boyfriend on her birthday and etc etc. Thing is it shows that ron is trying his best to keep his crush a secret, but he's failing, or probably, he wants her to know and feel what he's feeling for her...and yes, hermione probably gets the clue, but prefers the book over the perfume...and i guess she is wrong when she says that ron has an emotional range of a teaspoon!! because he doesnt...he'll make SUCH A CUTE boyfriend!

Ron's gift does point to him having feelings for Hermione but you can take the gift as personal and impersonal. Knowing Ron, what does he know about getting things for girls? Yes, Hermione has been his best friend for 4 years now but what does he know about her interests other than books? What if he didn't know which book to get her or couldn't afford it and decided to get something else? Looking into his head, he tries to imagine what a girl would think like. The cartoon images pop up in the thinking bubble showing ponies, flowers and perfume. Pony and flowers are out of the question because you would need to charm the flowers to last and ponies cost fortunes to keep. (at least in my oppinion.) So, why not get her perfume? She is a girl after all.

And now, it also could be very personal showing he has feelings for her because you usually get perfume for a partner. Yes, Ron probably does have feelings for Hermione but because of Ron's general knowledge of girls, Hermione seems to be ignoring the hint.

i thought it was funny. i think he did give it to her because he has a crush on her. [isnt it so obvious ] poor ron

Ron gave Hermione the irft of perfume because he has a crush on her. He wanted to give her something different, and perfume is a more romatic-type gift than a book is. You need to remember that Ron is very inexperienced and bumbling at the whole romance thing. That, and the fact that he has no money, doesn't make for a spectacular gift. I think he did the best he could think to do. [Thanks to all the people who posted before, your thoughts really made me think more about this.]

And Hermione could quite possibly have called the perfume 'unusual' because she didn't know what to say. Other than Krum, who isn't around much anyway, Hermione has never dated anyone She could either be so dense about it she couldn't figure out why Ron had given her such an odd gift (which I think is unlikely as Hermione is too smart for that), she could not return the feelings, or she does return the feelings and is so shy about it she didn't know what to say. I'm a lot like Hermione, and if a boy all of the sudden gave me perfume, I would call it something like 'unusual', as a nice middle of the road option.

I think that are, many, many, many more signs that Ron has a crush on Hermione. And because of these other clues, it would be fitting to say that him giving her perfume, something you give your girlfriend, fits as a sign of his feelings toward her. I do think that Harry and Hermione understand each other, but that's great because Harry understands Ron too. I don't know, Ron isn't very forward with his feelings and is having trobles getting them out, so if he did have feelings for her, he wouldn't just yell them out. And of course, this all just opion, and no one can say that they are right because these are all just opions, even mine.

Wow, it looks like the Harry/Hermione and Ron/Hermioneo shippers have opposing views. I'm just on the sidelines and trying to be very objective. . .

I just thought of something of how a perfume is a horrible gift. You could view it as: "Aww. . how sweet/romantic" or plain old "Thanks.". But you could view it as, "Ron, why did you give me perfume? Do I smell or something?"

Maybe Ron is telling Hermione, 'live a little' and lighten up, even if the O.W.L.S. are coming. . .

And by Hermione saying 'unusual', she might have meant to actually say, "What a weird smell Ron. Where did you get this?" And as Dana mentioned, Ron is poor, downright poor. So do you think cheap perfumes have the best scent?

Why exactly, should Ron give Hermione a perfume? Maybe he knew Harry was giving Hermione a book already and his gift would seem trite because Harry is so much more richer than he. How small Ron's book would look next to Harry's expensive one!

(And you start to wonder why Ron would go through that trouble to get a good gift. You could argue that she's one of his best friends. Some would argue she's more)

Harry got a book, where he could've walked into a counter, found the book and bought it. Ron got perfume, where he could go into a girly store, pick out carefully and without experience, the 'perfect' scent. Who went through more work?

If Ron got Hermione perfume, maybe he sees the more girly side of Hermione and being 'emotional' and all . Didn't Ron mutter a couple of lines about 'girls' throughout the series? And meanwhile, Harry knows the intellectual part of Hermione better, seeing how she studies, worries and frets about something that is important to her while Ron just says it's because she's a girl. Two different viewpoints, two different gifts.

I honestly have no idea where I'm getting at: just throwing some ideas out.

Its a present that freinds usualy give in a romantic moment.
He loves her....

i do think that ron likes hermione as more than a friend but i think he just gave her perfume because he couldn't find a book

ron and hermione
sitting in a tree
doing something they shouldn't be
first comes love
then comes marriage
then comes the baby on the quidditch broom

he fancies her big time thats why he got her the perfume
go ron go ron go ron go ron

I think the perfume issue is still a debate between R/Hr shippers and H/Hr. My friend, who's a H/Hr shipper, thinks that it's a normal thing. He pointed to me that he could buy me a perfume but it doesn't mean that he likes me. And the word unusual symbolizes the smell of the perfume.

So I told him that would he really spend money for a perfume if he's as poor as the Weasleys for nothing? That it shows friendship? Then he should also gave Harry a perfume for men, too. And the word unusual, it describes how odd it is for Ron to give Hermione a perfume.

I believe that the perfume issue is an evidence for R/Hr relatonship. (One point for R/Hr shippers!)

P.S. Don't worry, after what he had said, he's still my friend...

Well I think that he gave her a perfume because it is obvioushe fancies her. But I don't know whether Hermione feels the same way about him. It shows that his present is a lot more personal than Harry's who buys her a book. The unusual is reffering to the smell because Ron who is poor might not have been able to get her that good a perfume. He also lacks experience in girls so he did not know what to get Hermione.

[FONT=Courier]As you'll shortly find out, I'm a real R/Hr shipper . The Perfume is of course a way of showing Hermione that he - Ron - really fancies (loves) her. Her reply that it's really "unusual" may of course refer to the smell, but it could also mean that she likes him too.

Why? There have been many hints, that she also likes him, like in GoF, after the Yule, as they had a quarrel and she said that he could have invited her earlier (I can't record the exact words anymore). And as we all know, the mind of women AND men works a bit "unusual". Perhaps she didn't want to show how much she liked him?!?

And there's also a german saw: "Was sich liebt das neckt sich!" which means about: those who love each other, tease each other (even quarrel).

I thought it was sooo sweet that Ron gave Hermione the perfume, and its obvious that Ron likes Hermione. I think that Hermione likes Ron too, but I think that she is too embarrased to tell Ron her feelings for him. I really hope that they get together! They are perfect for eachother.

And in case you havent noticed, I am obviously a R/Hr shipper!

Well, you might like to stop by our SHIPS forum then... You'll find plenty of fellow R/Hr shippers over there...

It's because Ron has a crush on Hermione and he wants her to smell good =D

Ron gave Her a perfume because he simply Love her?That is not mentioned that it had a bad smell atleast not clearly.

perfume is givin from a guy in two ways (knowing that i am a guy and i would know)

it can be given for love, or it could be given as a last resort.

but i think it was givin to her by love. i think ron loves hermione but i dont think they make they best coouple in the whole entire universe.

ron new that harry gave hermione better presents but he wanted to show hermione that he was (as people would say in the book) "a sorry cheap git"

Sorry! I double post by a mistake in my pc! So I edit this one, although I would be delighted y somebody erases it.

I´ll try this doesn´t happen again

You can look for the scene, so many times mentioned, in which Ron's gift for Hermione appears in OoTP 503 (Scholastic version).
And yes it´s a christmas present.
I´m not very sure about its meaning.
Truly in no place it says that the perfume should not have a good smell, this is simply an assumption done from the tone that Hermione uses. Ron looks almost pleased with the term "unusual", though.
Nevertheless, with the whole tension that has taken place between them since her interaction with Victor Krum (and by this I mean their entire denial of the existence of a mutual like). I think Ron is realizing that what he feels for her goes beyond a friendship and he wants to give her a slightly personal present that as a christmas one doesn´t have further implications.
Perhaps the perfume is not precisely delightful, but she prefers seeing it as symbol of eccentricity instead of making a comment so incisive as: I do not like it or sometime like that, which probably would make him feel badly. Because she likes him...

It means that he is finally beginning to see Hermione as something more than a friend. Obviously, I personally believe that JKR intends them to be together in the end.

i think its clear that harry gave her a book because he thinks of hermione as a friend, but ron on the other hand, gave her a perfum, that only means that he doesnt see her as a know-it-all but more like something else, is more like a gift that you make to someone that you like...

Was sich liebt das neckt sich!-That's cool, I'm in German too.
But by now it's clear that the reason he gave it to her, that he knew he liked her, and took a chance to get it. I think "usual" was both the fact that he got it for her and the smell.

well i no that in the 7th book ron nd hermy do get together i was reading it on a website jkrowling was telling them that they get together so i dunno but i think that ron has had a crush on her but didnt realize like in the 3 film wen they touched hands then looked at each other in shock then in the 5 film hermy was with viktor and then ron got jelous and in the hbp i think he snogs lavender just to make her jelous or somit

i liked the book heaps but when they did the movie i liked how they put a lot of diagon ally into it