Wow! There is a club on Draco! I never knew! I have only been here a short while and I have been on VTM hardly at all recently so I never had time to check out the lounge...and now that I have I find this!!!! My friend will be over the moon when I tell her she's a big DM fan.




Hmmmm.....I reckon that it would simply be a battle of who had a stronger personality, which is a very difficult question. Draco would probably try to dominate Harry like he did Crabbe and Goyle, when he realised that wouldn't work he might feel as if he finally had an equal he could talk freely to and they would have been best buds for life. If this had happened before the sorting when he first asked Harry Malfoy would probably have realised this sooner, changed his ways, been put in Gryffindor been surrounded by positive good natured people and his life would be completely different. Hmmm...I don't know if that would affet how I see him but you never know. He might have turned into Ron. uurrgg...
I would not like that.


Anyway I read the opening post and saw that you are allowed to recommend and supply links to favourite fan fics. Now I don't know if has already been posted but I'm gonna post it anyway because it is an amazing fic and two links to it are better than one. it shows Draco in a completely different light so if you haven't read it read it. It called The Unexpected Love and is like...the best fanfic ever!

OMG, Unexpected love is my favourite fanfic in the whole universe! I'm on tenderhooks waiting for an update!

Anyway:

If Draco had become friends with Harry what kind of person do you think he would have turned out to be?

This is hard. I personally don't think it would have ever worked out, because they're both natural leaders. And also, Ron would never have forgiven Harry.

But, if they somehow managed to avoid all obstacles, I think it would have changed both of them, perhaps for the better. I think that, at first, they would have had to agree to disagree about the good vs. evil debate, but as time wore on, one of them would have to change sides. and it's not likely to be Harry, is it.

It's also hard because of Lucius. He would be constantly trying to take advantage of the fact that his son was friends with Harry Potter, and would probably try to get Draco to give Harry up to the Dark Lord. Sooner or later, Draco would have to choose. Family or friends?

I think it's better for Draco that he was never friends with Harry, because if he was, he would have to make loads of heart wrenching decisions and it would probably tear him apart.

Ellie
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A whole thread for Draco?!

Why didn't I find this sooner?!

If Draco had become friends with Harry what kind of person do you think he would have turned out to be?

Nicer, more compassionate. If he and Harry became friends on the Hogwarts Express before the Sorting, I think Draco would have been Sorted into Gryffindor, because in the books, he showed a mixture of Gryffindor bravory and Slytherin cunning, the situation depicted (spelling?) which side show.

Also, I agree with Alastorlet_and_Proud. Lucius would use Draco's and Harry's friendship and Draco would eventually have to choose between family and friends.

Thinking on it, I kinda wish JKR had made Harry and our darling Draco friends. It'd be an interesting plot twist.....

Welcome new-comers to our humble Draconian hang-out.
I'm sorry for my long absence, now let's see, questions...

If Draco had become friends with Harry what kind of person do you think he would have turned out to be?

Some very interesting views on this, that would indeed be a nice twist. I think, like most of you, that had they chosen to become friends, Draco's inner nice-guy would come out. However, being a Malfoy, he wouldn't be able to change himself too much. His ideas would land him in Slytherin, regardless of who he decided to become friends with. I also agree that Rob would never forgive Harry. Because one thing's sure...if he did want to be friends with Harry, I'm sure that Draco wouldn't want to stretch it too far.

And it is obvious that Lucius would want to use the friendship to the family's advantage. An excellent point here. And I agree, it would be difficult for them both. But, I think it's better that they remain enemies, though. It's just like the natural order of things.

Anyway, it would indeed make for an interesting change, had they become friends. Come to think of it, it would make a nice fic too.

Laterz,
-Karina

Time for a new topic for discussion, hey we gotta keep this forum spicey do we not? LOL

What would have happened if Draco had gone against Voldy's wishes and not promised to off Dumbledore in HBP? In other words what path would Draco have taken?

Well I think that for one he would have totally angered Lucius and probaly have become an outcast among his own House. I mean evil deeds are what is expected of Draco by just about everyone. So if he had gone against Voldy and basically told him he would not do it, I feel that the consequences would have been dire for him to say the least. His father would have been tortured by Voldy and fellow Death Eaters and Draco would have lost his social status.

As for the path I believe Draco would have taken, I think that he would have left school and went into hiding sooner to save himself the humiliation from his peers. He probaly would have went off somewhere, a place to where only his mother and maybe Snape knew where he was. He would have stayed there and waited out everything until he got word that Voldy had been taken down. And then and only then would he have possibly came out of hiding, like he did in the long run anyway.

So what does everybody else feel about this?

Sorry I haven't been around, guys. First my computer died, then I had a ton of Halloween costume orders to sew! Finally my life is settling down enough to be back. My special thanks to DracosLady, who thought up such great discussion questions to keep things 'spicy,' and welcome, Sister of the Dark Lord!

What would have happened if Draco had gone against Voldy's wishes and not promised to off Dumbledore in HBP? In other words what path would Draco have taken?

If Voldemort asked him to, I don't think Draco could even think about refusing. To most Slytherins, family is everything. I'm sure Draco thought that if he could manage the task, it would help make up for his father breaking the prophecy and landing himself in Azkaban. I just don't even see Voldemort allowing Draco to live if he had refused. As it was, LV didn't care if Draco was killed. He would have allowed it to punish Lucius. He just thought that maybe he could use poor Draco to accomplish some nasty tasks before the boy was killed off. I don't think LV actually thought Draco would be able to manage it, but--just in case--he'd set him the task.

I got the impression that Draco was really chuffed about it in the beginning. That he really felt it was because LV believed in him, believed he could do it. He was too innocent to understand LV's true motives. I think as the year wore on though, Draco came to understand what an evil thing he had been asked to do. And the fact that he couldn't back out, that he knew his mother had no protection should he fail, well, he felt he had to do it.

So, I think Draco would never have chosen another path if he had refused to do Voldemort's bidding. He wouldn't have lasted long enough to choose it.

My oh my this site has not been busy as of late like I was hoping Well I guess it's time to start yet another topic of discussion...

I found out the other day that Tom felton will be starrin on a Reality TV Show this wednesday Nov. 12! It is called Jack Osborne's"Celebrity Adrenaline Junkie" " being aired onitv2 Unfortunately for most of us here in the U.S. we will only be able to watch this online at itv2.com because it is a British TV channel...But anyway Tom will doing a series of "stunts" dealing with adrenaline..The episode he is on will be filmed from Africa where he and like 4 other celebrities will be doing stunts.It looks really cool, can't wait to see it, even if I will have to watch it online

Question being: What do others here on DODDD think of our guy Tom going on a Reality TV Show? Letting everyone see him as someone other than Draco Malfoy?

I think it's really awesome! i've been waiting to see who the first HP actor would be to try out their wits on Reality TV...Looks like Tom is the first..

What does everybody else think of this?

Marcey

I'm in the UK and I just looked it up on Sky and saw it and saw Tom's name and was like Whooooohwoo! and my brother was like, shut up I wanna watch the simpsons! and I was like whoooohwooo!
Muahahaha!

What do others here on DODDD think of our guy Tom going on a Reality TV Show? Letting everyone see him as someone other than Draco Malfoy?
I think it will good for him to do something other than Harry Potter although he will never be as good in anything as he is in the HP films. They rock too much you know it has to be good to try new things...by that I mean bungy jumping and swimming with man eating sharks ect. LOL Tom bungy jumping. I can see it now......
weeee!
*boing*
Whoooooo
*boing*
whheee....ect
lollollollollollollol

I know it was short but I'm rushed and gotta go now
bye!

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What do others here on DODDD think of our guy Tom going on a Reality TV Show? Letting everyone see him as someone other than Draco Malfoy?

What?

(get ready for explosion) WHAT???

How come I have seen that advert 46 BILLION times, and they never once BOTHERED to mention that TOM FELTON was going to do it?! Who's in charge?

Seriously, I have seen the Jack Osbourne Celebrity junkie advert so many times I can practically recite it off by heart and I NEVER knew that Tom was doing it! Oh my gosh, that gives me an excuse to actually watch it!

I think it's great that he's doing it! You can't rely on your stereotype role, and it's so cool that he's doing all the crazy stunts that they do in that show!

[Sudden zombie-like craze] Must watch Celebrity Junkie... must watch Celebrity Junkie...

[goes off to get a TV guide]

Ellie
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OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH, I hyperventilated this morning. You know why? THAT NEW TRAILER. The music is amazing, the movie looks amazing, its incredibly intense and SO MUCH DRACO in it!

I'm sorry about all this 'shouting', but I reallycan't control myself. Because... *squee* I THINK, the sectusempra scene is in there, or at least the part where he CRIES, but that's fine by me! Crying is all I want! In the trailer, there's a shot of him looking in a mirror, and he looks pretty upset. And we wouldn't see this if Harry wasn't around, right? OH MY, I'm so excited. It's at 1:31, to be exact, and I promise, I really promise, that you will agree with me on that being the most beautiful shot of Draco in the history of shots of Draco.

Whoa. I think that's all I can say for now, so yeah. Let the fangirl festivities start!

Thank you Aethonon, I really appriciate being let into the fold. I will do my best to come here more often.

Two questions:

Do you think that Draco would have taken up Dumbledore's offer to turn traitor if the other Death Eaters hadn't come in when they did? Why or why not?

And

Let's say Draco took up Dumbledore's offer in HBP. How would the Order react when they suddenly have to get along with Draco and his family? How would the Trio react? Would his parents abandon him and return to the Dark Lord?

Estatic to be a new member of DODDD,
Sister

I used to hate him but now
Go Go Go

Do you think that Draco would have taken up Dumbledore's offer to turn traitor if the other Death Eaters hadn't come in when they did? Why or why not?

Most probably. He was just a child, and to him, it wasn't about loyalty or who he believed the best to support, it was about the path that was chosen for him the minute he was birn and about trying to save his only family from dying. I think he knew when Dumbledore was talking to him that what he was saying was true, and that the options were switch sides or die. Dumbledore gave him an escape route far better than any ones he could have come up with himself, and I think, after his brief period of denial, he would have taken it.

Let's say Draco took up Dumbledore's offer in HBP. How would the Order react when they suddenly has to get along with Draco and his family? How would the Trio react? Would his parents abandon him and return to the Dark Lord?

Ok. Let's do this in chunks. Number one, I don't think that Lucius would accept help from the Order. He's a difficult case, because I'm not sure whether or not he'd return to Voldemort. he'd probably stay in Azkaban as long as he possibly could before resentfully rejoining Voldemort. On the other hand, he would probably have to then run away because Voldemort would probably torture him for the whereabouts of his wife and son because Voldy would suspect them of selling information to the Orded. Only THEN would he allow the Order to help him.

As for how the Order would react, they probably wouldn't trust them at all. They wouldn't believe it unless Harry said that it was true that DD had promised them. I think people like Kingsley and Hestia and Daedelus would be civil to Narcissa at least, Mrs Weasley would keep herself to herself and Lupin would try to get everyone to be friends. They might be able to forgive Draco because none of it would really be his fault (Fred and George wouldn't miss an opportunity to prank him but Mrs Weasley might at least scold them) but I don't think anyone would really want Lucius around, least of all Mr Weasley. There is also the slight problem that he is supposed to be in Azkaban, but they might overlook that fact seeing as there is nobody in Azkaban anyway. They all know he's a Death Eater, though, and the things that he's done would take a lot of forgetting.

As to the Trio, I think that Hermione would say that if Dumbledore was going to forgive them, then she could too. She wouldn't trust them, she just wouldn't behave hostilely towards them. Ron however wouldn't be able to forgive and forget. Ron would constantly remind everyone that it was Mr Malfoy who gave Ginny the diary and nearly killed her. And even Hermione would resent their treatment of Dobby after he informed her of it. Harry I'm not sure about. It does say in HBP that he felt sorry for draco, but that doesn't mean he would forgive him and his parents for all the things they had done. I think he'd just avoid speaking to them.

Wohoo! I actually gave answers that (hopefully) make sense! Great questions, Sister to the Dark Lord.

Ellie
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I have not yet seen the new trailer for HBP, but f4om what I hear it is pretty awesome! And they show footage of Draco, that makes it much better...

Did anyone on here get to see Tom Felton OnCelebrity Adrenaline Junkie ? Unfortunately, I don't get that TV Channel here in the U.S. so I guess I'll have to watch it on itv2 and see Tom's amazing intro into Reality TV...

Do you think that Draco would have taken up Dumbledore's offer to turn traitor if the other Death Eaters hadn't come in when they did? Why or why not?

I believe that yes he would have. Draco has always been looking out for Number One, so yes if DD had offered it to him then yes he would have turned traitor against Voldy, his own father and the other Death Eaters. Draco at that time was only interested in taking care of his own hide and protecting it. He would take whatever offer was appealing to him at that momment, anmd apparantly whenever the DE's showed up he saw this as his oppurtunity to look good to them. If the DE's had not shown up at all Draco would have jumped on DD's offer, no doubt.

Do you think that Draco would have taken up Dumbledore's offer to turn traitor if the other Death Eaters hadn't come in when they did? Why or why not?

I think so... I mean I think he would, but at the same time I can't imagine him doing that, you know? So yeah. The thing is Draco's always afraid. So I know that he would want to take his offer, he would definitely want it, but he would have been too scared of what would happen after that. But, I'm a little confused. Who would have guided Draco on the right path if Dumbledore was meant to die anyway? I like what you say, DracosLady, about him only taking care about himself. I think if it had been to save himself he would, but otherwise I think he would have been to afraid and wouldn't be able to make such a quick decision. Or maybe the opposite would have happened, and he would have acted too fast and then regretted it.

Let's say Draco took up Dumbledore's offer in HBP. How would the Order react when they suddenly have to get along with Draco and his family? How would the Trio react? Would his parents abandon him and return to the Dark Lord?

I think Lucius would never have changed sides. Narcissa would have wanted to and would have wanted to stick with her son, but might have been afraid. As for the Order, I think most of them would not agree and start a big conflict, and if Draco was accepted on the 'good side' alot of them would have been giving them the like... dirty look treatement. I mean, it would be pretty hard to trust someone who's been your enemy for so long!

Speaking of Narcissa, in the movie her hair is brown at the top and blond the rest. So, I'm not too happy about that, hah. I imagined her having looong blonde hair, and looking slightly younger than Helen Whatshername who's playing her!

Hii Everyone!

I Think I Might Have Been on Here Before But I cant Remember
Anyway, I Live In the UK And Tom Was Totally Awesome On Celebrity Adrenaline Junkie!! Incredibly Georgeous Too It Was Great To See Him As Tom And Not As Draco.
You Should Deffinately All Watch It On itv2.com If You Didnt See It! And If You Did You Should Watch It Again

Well Unfortunately I Have To Go Babysit , So Toodles

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Btw For Those Of You Who havent Seen It Yet, This Is What He Looks Like In The New Trailer

I think her name is Helen McRory or something like that. Originally she was supposed to play Bellatrix but...well anyway I have time for one question.

Do you think that Draco would have taken up Dumbledore's offer to turn traitor if the other Death Eaters hadn't come in when they did? Why or why not?
I agree with Wtherwings, he's afraid. And fear tends to have an adverse effect on the decisions that people make. However knowing Draco as I do, I think it may have crossed his mind, but even he wouldn't be willing to try to doublecross Voldy. It would be far to endangering to both himself and his family. But if he had been given the chance I think he probably would change the side for which he chose to fight for.

-Karina

Do you think that Draco would have taken up Dumbledore's offer to turn traitor if the other Death Eaters hadn't come in when they did? Why or why not?
No, because I think he would have been too worried of his father's opinion. Even though they haven't technically made a direct reference to their relationship, I always feel like they have a close relationship, or not so much close, but he really wants to impress and live up to his father and Lord Voldemort's expectations.

Let's say Draco took up Dumbledore's offer in HBP. How would the Order react when they suddenly have to get along with Draco and his family? How would the Trio react? Would his parents abandon him and return to the Dark Lord?
If the order had to get along with Draco's family, I think it would be quite interesting. I think that people like Remus Lupin, and Mrs. Weasley might be welcoming, but people like Tonks and Professor Moody probably wouldn't be very welcoming. All in all, I don't think he'd comfortably give them information of the other side unless it was one on one with Dumbledore.
The trio would probably just not talk to him. I don't really think they'd be hateful of each other. I mean, most of the tension between him and the trio previously was because of his taking sides with Voldemort, or his father being a death eater. I mean, not that he was the most friendly person, but thats just his personality.
I definitely think that his parents would abandon him. Lucius would never turn against Voldemort. I mean, I'm sure he would beg his son not do it, but I just cannot see Lucius siding with Dumbledore on anything, and especially when the fight is at its worst point. And Consequently, Lucius' wife tends to take his side on anything, and is also a Black, so would definitely stay with Lucius.

Do you think that Draco would have taken up Dumbledore's offer to turn traitor if the other Death Eaters hadn't come in when they did? Why or why not?

I don't think he would have done. I think quite a large part of him wanted to, but that he was to scared as to what hi father would think. I think Lucius has ambitions and hoppes for his son, and that Draco is aware of them and wants to impress both Lucius and Voldemort, so wouldn't.

Let's say Draco took up Dumbledore's offer in HBP. How would the Order react when they suddenly have to get along with Draco and his family? How would the Trio react? Would his parents abandon him and return to the Dark Lord?

I think Lucius would abandon him. I don't think Narcissa would want to leave her son, but would be scared into it by Lucius. I think some members of the order, like Mrs Weasley and Lupin would want to make him feel at home as much as possible. Mr Weasley might get freindlier to him when Lucius leaves, but I don't think many of them would be able to get along well with them. I think Kingsley, Tonks and Moody would keep themselves to themselves and ignore him. The trio would find it hard to forgive him, and would go on openly hating him. I think Fred and George would mention A LOT how many times Gryffindor beat Malfoy at Quidditch, but then get shouted at by Mrs Weasley. Ginny would take Harry's side, because she's still in love with him and doesn't really like Malfoy much herself anyway.

Lottie
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Heya!

Yay!! A Draco fan club!! I really love Draco, he is such a class character, and Tom Felton is gorgeous!

Do I have to do something special to be a member?

Ohh, good questions Sister to the Dark Lord!

Do you think that Draco would have taken up Dumbledore's offer to turn traitor if the other Death Eaters hadn't come in when they did? Why or why not?
Draco was very scared at this point in the book. I think he had been eager to prove himself to Voldemort and to be better than his father, which is why I think he did not like his mother trying to interfere. I think he knows that Voldemort gave him this task as a punishment for his father and that he didn't think he would succeed. Draco wanted to prove his worth by doing what everyone assumed he could not. But, when it came to actually doing what Voldemort wanted, I think he was very frightened and felt that he could not do it. He shows great determination here, though he is scared out of his wits and stressed, he still continues and puts his all into it, knowing that there is a high probability that his all won't be enough.
This mixed up jumble of my thoughts leads to my answer.
As Draco is stood before Dumbledore he had mixed feelings. He saw the truth in Dumbledores words and knew that switching sides would be the right answer, but I think a part of him, though small, was still determined to prove himself. When the Death Eaters came I think Draco was scared out of thoughts of changing sides. I agree with Witherwings and Veritaserum14, fear of what Voldemort and his Death Eaters would do gripped him. If the Death Eaters had not come until a bit later I'm not sure it would have made much difference. It's very possible Dumbledore would have been able to convince him if he had maybe five more minutes, but if they came in sooner I don't think it would.

Let's say Draco took up Dumbledore's offer in HBP. How would the Order react when they suddenly have to get along with Draco and his family? How would the Trio react? Would his parents abandon him and return to the Dark Lord?
If Draco had swapped sides, I think the Order would be very cautious. Most would probably avoid or ignore him. As scsmith478 said, I think some, such as Lupin and Mrs. Weasley would be more accommodating then others. I don't think Fred and George would receive him very well, I'm positive that there would be a lot of death glares and taunting.
I think Harry would tolerate him, try to understand him maybe and I think they could overcome their previous rivalry.
I'm sure Hermione would pity him, I don't think she would trust him but would not ignore or avoid him at least.
Ron, however, definitely would not accept him! Ron is not capable of not getting over such an enemity!
I don't think Lucius would gladly turn to the Order. He might, but I think he would betray them to Voldemort and try to pass on information. I do not think he cares much for his son, so it wouldn't be that hard for him. I think Narcissa would be torn between her husband and her son. Out of fear I think she would follow Lucius though.

Well those are my thoughts anyways, I hope they make sense!

Lauran

Let's say Draco took up Dumbledore's offer in HBP. How would the Order react when they suddenly have to get along with Draco and his family? How would the Trio react? Would his parents abandon him and return to the Dark Lord?

Ooooh, this IS an interesting question. I do think that at least his father would abandon him. Lucius doesn't strike me as the type to stand behind his son's decisions, especially when it comes to being on the "winning" side, and I bet that Lucius would have thought that Voldemort would win. He underestimated Harry and the Order all the time, after all. I'm not so sure about Narcissa. She might have stayed with Draco because after all, he is her son, and she loves him. But she would have been awfully torn no matter what she did, poor thing. That would be a hard choice to make, deciding whether to stay with your son or your husband, no matter what either of them might have done that was bad.

I don't think the Order would be particularly happy about having to get along with him, and especially with his family. Lucius was/is a hardcore Death Eater, after all. They might find it easier to get along with Draco. And I think that reactions would have definitely been mixed. People like Mrs. Weasley would probably warm up a lot faster than, say, Moody.

As to the Trio, I think Hermione would have gotten along with him a little easier, at least if he stopped calling her a Mudblood. That would probably be essential. Harry might get along with Draco all right, although it would definitely be very strained and awkward. I don't think Ron would ever really get along with him, though, no matter what he did. Ron and Draco clashed an awful lot.

I think that mainly for the Order and the Trio to get along with him, he would just have to change some of his attitudes. *sighs* Which would probably be good for him, anyways, since a lot of those attitudes, he got from his father. (Like calling Hermione a Mudblood or making fun of the Weasleys.) So it could actually end up being quite good for him.

Eep! Everybody likes my quesitons! I am so happy!

I will now procede to answer my own questions:

Do you think that Draco would have taken up Dumbledore's offer to turn traitor if the other Death Eaters hadn't come in when they did? Why or why not?

Well, yeah! Remember, Draco was about to give in in canon, he had lowered his wand and taken a worried step towards Dumbledore, obviously concerned with Dumbledore's well-being. I think he would've turned traitor because of how he felt that the Dark Lord was using him and Draco hates being so powerless.

Let's say Draco took up Dumbledore's offer in HBP. How would the Order react when they suddenly has to get along with Draco and his family? How would the Trio react? Would his parents abandon him and return to the Dark Lord?

The Order in general would take it badly. There would be clashes, and I'm sure that the Malfoys would be locked up and/or without their wands for a while until they gained people's trust. The Trio would be confused and in denial. Hermione would extend the hand of friendship to Draco, Ron would do his best to stop her, and Harry would just stand off to the side. Lucius would abandon Draco and try to drag Narcissa along with him, but she would stay with Draco, because in DH, Narcissa lies to the Dark Lord about Harry being dead so that Draco can stay alive. Draco and his decisions mean more to her then her own life.

Do you think that Draco would have taken up Dumbledore's offer to turn traitor if the other Death Eaters hadn't come in when they did? Why or why not?

I think he would have accepted Dumbledore's offer, because he was a very lonely boy, and he just needed some guidance. He befriends Moaning Myrtle and is seen crying, so he definitely needs some help with what he wants his future to be like. (Not under Voldmort's rule). He wants to be accepted by people, and being Voldemort's lackey is definitely not the way to go about it. He probably realize's this when Dumbledore is talking to him and tries to think of the outcome while having his epiphany.

A big hug and hullo to the new people! Thanks so much for joining DODDD! I'd say you had to run around Hogwarts three times in order to join, wearing only a green and silver scarf, but naaaaaaah. You don't have to. I suppose Draco would enjoy it though.

Well, ladies...I am a...Da da DUMMMM...moderator. Ha! I was just made one today. But don't worry--I'm not scary or mean.

Do you think that Draco would have taken up Dumbledore's offer to turn traitor if the other Death Eaters hadn't come in when they did? Why or why not?

I love the new questions, and the wonderful answers! I really do think Draco would have gone to Dumbledore's side, but I wonder if it would only have been long enough to know he was safe? Would he then run back to his parents? Draco is such an enigma sometimes. I really have a hard time knowing what he might do. He is painted with a black brush by most people, but that's not really him. People say he's just a selfish brat, but if so, why work to rescue Goyle in the Room of Requirement, knowing he was endangering himself in the process? Why beg Harry to save Crabbe, even after Crabbe had been so rude to him? Would Draco have used Dumbledore's help only long enough to get free of him? I can't help but think that, had Draco had enough time to work things through, he would have gone to Dumbledore, if he could be sure his mother would be saved too. I don't think he would have gone to DD if he knew he was leaving his mother vulnerable to Voldemort's anger. As Nicky said--he was so scared. He really needed DD's help. But he would not sacrifice his mother in order to be safe.

Let's say Draco took up Dumbledore's offer in HBP. How would the Order react when they suddenly has to get along with Draco and his family? How would the Trio react? Would his parents abandon him and return to the Dark Lord?

I don't think Draco would have been given any further part in the uprising. I think that, like the Dursleys, the Malfoys would have been hidden away someplace safe for the duration, and not told anything about the Order's plans. They would be cared for, but they would never be trusted. It would have to take something monumental to change people's minds about the Malfoys. Only if they turned traitors enough to give away LV's secrets, and maybe not even then.

Perhaps Lucius would have been tempted to go back to Voldemort, if he saw that LV was winning, but knowing the punishment he would get, I don't think he'd budge. I don't think Narcissa would have at all, and I know she'd never leave Draco. I think that once the family had made its decision, it would be family first, LV second, in true Slytherin style.

Congratulations, Aethonon! It's great to have a Draco-supporting mod out there!

I'm quite happy that we have so many people posting; I'm starting to wonder if that slow period where no one was posting was just my imagination!

OK, now I'm going to go hunt down Draco, and give him a big hug! You're welcome to join me and we'll make it a group hug!

Do you think that Draco would have taken up Dumbledore's offer to turn traitor if the other Death Eaters hadn't come in when they did? Why or why not?

Hmm, I believe Draco was definitely conflicted over whether he wanted to side with Dumbledore and take his offer. Although I'm pretty sure that Draco had his own interests at heart when he was pondering his choices. Being a good snake, I have to believe Draco wanted the winning side and deep down he was a good person born into a bad situation. However I don't think Draco had the strength of character at 17 to handle being ostracized by both society and his family...so I don't think he could have accepted Dumbledore's offer...however much he may have wanted to.

Let's say Draco took up Dumbledore's offer in HBP. How would the Order react when they suddenly has to get along with Draco and his family? How would the Trio react? Would his parents abandon him and return to the Dark Lord?

I think that Draco would have found himself suffering the same outcast suspicion as Snape and the trio would have been most hesitant to welcome him or trust him. There was just so much bad history between them it would have taken great effort for them to be civil with Draco. I'd like to think that the Order being adult would have been more accepting of Draco's turn towards the Light but he would have had to work really hard for their trust and acceptance too. As for his parents, I believe they would have become his greatest enemies for the embarrassment of family betrayal...at least his father. Narcissa obviously wanted him alive and wanted to protect him from his task to kill Dumbledore. She might have been more accepting but I can't imagine her following Draco and defying Lucius. So Draco would have been alone, isolated, most likely disinherited and pretty miserable in general.

Hiya everyone~ I knew this thread was around here somewhere. Thanks to Aethonon for making it easy for me to find in her signature.

Well, as for the questions;

Do you think that Draco would have taken up Dumbledore's offer to turn traitor if the other Death Eaters hadn't come in when they did? Why or why not?

It's hard to say. He was so terrified and obviously not true Death Eater material, or else killing Dumbledore would have been simple for him. He was acting on his family's behalf as it was, taking on the task of killing his headmaster. He more or less said so to Moaning Myrtle in the bathroom. . . I have to do it. He'll kill my family if I don't. (I was quoting from memory, so I'm sure it's not word for word. But that was the jist of it)

If he could have been sure that he and his family would have been safe, then yes, I think he would have. But if things started looking bad for the Order and he got scared, he would have switched right back, saying he had been imperioused or something. Just like he was more than happy to accept Harry's life saving help in the burning Room of Requirement, but then as a Death Eater tried to attack him, he kept pleading that he was on their side, to save himself.

and,

Let's say Draco took up Dumbledore's offer in HBP. How would the Order react when they suddenly has to get along with Draco and his family? How would the Trio react? Would his parents abandon him and return to the Dark Lord?

I completely agree with Aethonon,

and Kitten72,


I can't say it any better than that. But I don't think that his parents would have abandoned him. I think even Lucius was beginning to regret being on LV's side towards the end. He may be a cold and callous man, but he did love Draco. He didn't come right out and say it. But LV knew that when Lucius was begging him to call of the attack on the castle because Potter might be killed by another's hand, that he only wanted the battle called off for fear for his son.

They would have followed Draco into hiding if they knew they would have been safe.

~Dayna

I'm all for a group Draco hug, Sister--let's do a fangirl crush! Something tells me the Dray might like it!

Welcome to kitten and to Dayna--thanks for visiting DODDD! We hope you'll become a part of our strange little fetish for snarky Slytherins! And I liked your answers to the last questions--especially as regards Lucius. He's so ambitious it's easy for me to forget how much he must love his son.

Fun question, just for a quirky change of pace--You and Draco are touring Diagon Alley, arm in arm. He suddenly pulls up, gives you a mischievous wink, and tells you he just spied something he simply must buy for you. He makes you shut your eyes and count to ten, so you don't know what shop he's entered. When you open them, he's gone. You're quite moved, because Draco doesn't think most people are worth spending money on, but he thinks you are! You decide that a pressie sounds lovely, but not just for you, for him as well! And off you go on a pressie-hunt! What would you buy him? And what do you think he would buy you?

Thanks for the welcome, Darcy! And I would love to join in your fetish. I've always been drawn toward the bad boys. That's probably why I'm single and raising two little girls by myself.

As for this little question of yours. . . YAY!! A present for me from Draco. Oh, if only dreams came true. . . Well, they do today. heehee



"Why can't I just have now?" I ask.

"Because, Dayna, you'll spoil the surprise," replied Draco. He grabbed my hand and began pulling me forward. I had to run to keep up with his long strides. My gift to him, that he had no idea I had purchased was beneath my robes, being jumbled by the movement, and I was extremely grateful that I had decided against anything breakable.

"Oh, fine," I mumbled and though I usually tried to act more like an adult, I sounded like a disappointed child.

He pulled me into a darkened alley, out of sight of the busy street, and held onto me tightly. He spun on his heel and together we Disapparated. Before I had time to gather my bearings he had his hands over my eyes. He bent his head and kissed my forehead before turning me around and uncovering my eyes.

I gasp at the scene before me. He had taken me to a secluded alcove on some tropical island. A beautiful tiered waterfall fell gracefully into a crystal clear pool. I stepped onto the white sand beach and threw my shoes off so I could feel the warm sand between my toes. I turned back to Draco. "Where are we?" I asked in awe.

"We're on my family's private island in the Carribean," he answered with a smile.

"You have your own island?" I asked with wide eyes.

He nodded.

I rolled my eyes and smiled at him. "I should have known."

He pulled what looked like a miniscule piece of cloth out of his pocked and waved his wand to remove the shrinking charm he had placed on it. He shook out the green and silver checkered blanket and placed it on the sand before once again reaching into his pocket. With a wave of his wand, a picnic basket appeared.

He took my hand, pulled me to the blanket and helped me sit down. He pulled out a sandwich and handed it to me before grabbing his own. Next came some grape sodas, potato chips and chocolate covered strawberries for dessert.

I sighed and pulled his gift from its hiding place. "I feel silly giving this to you after all of this." I motioned to the picnic lunch, and handed the teddy bear to him. "It reminded me of you. I couldn't resist."

He took the fluffy black teddy bear and fingered the green bow tied around its neck. "I love it," he said with a smile before leaning over the picnic basket to kiss me.



Heehee, yes, I am a hopeless romantic, and I think that Draco could definitely be one, too.

Thanks for that question, Darcy. That was fun!

~Dayna

Thanks for the welcome as well. This looks to be a lot of fun.
Dayna you set the bar high and I felt compelled to write in narrative form as well. Let us all celebrate the wonderful man we know Draco to be!

You and Draco are touring Diagon Alley, arm in arm. He suddenly pulls up, gives you a mischievous wink, and tells you he just spied something he simply must buy for you. He makes you shut your eyes and count to ten, so you don't know what shop he's entered. When you open them, he's gone. You're quite moved, because Draco doesn't think most people are worth spending money on, but he thinks you are! You decide that a pressie sounds lovely, but not just for you, for him as well! And off you go on a pressie-hunt! What would you buy him? And what do you think he would buy you?

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Draco had wandered off in a direction that I couldn’t see. I should get him a gift too I thought. I headed into the jewelry store that we have visited together so many times. He won’t be there; he would never risk getting boring.

I walk up to the clerk who gives me a knowing smile, “I need to have a pendant commissioned. I want a platinum chain and a silver gray stone with just a flick of blue. The stone should be in the shape of a dragon and not too large. Keep it tasteful, please.”

Smiling again, he says, “I know exactly what you want, Miss. I’ll have if for you as quickly as possible. He will love it, I’m sure.”

Surprisingly quick he returns and it is indeed perfect, it matches Draco's eyes and will accent his features. I do love magic. I give my thanks and manage to get back to my assigned waiting spot just as Draco is making his way through the crowd.

He’s smiling at me with that look of satisfaction he gets when he knows he’s outdone himself. I gasp a little because I do love his surprises. He hands me a square box with holes in the side. I open the box and inside it is a beautiful tiny silver gray kitten. I smile up at him as he lifts the kitten up out of the box.

Handing me the kitten, he says “I know you get lonely when I’m away on business. I thought you might like a soft warm reminder of me to snuggle when I can’t be there.” I blush when I notice the diamond encrusted color on the kitten with a little diamond shaped dragon charm hanging in the center. Smiling to myself, I realize I now have two dragons to love.

I pull him close and thank him. He loves it when he can make me cry from happiness. He has done it again; I’ll give him his gift after dinner. He won’t be expecting it then and we can laugh over how much we’ve started to think alike. I don’t think life will ever be boring with this man.


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Yay, Aethonon! We can find Draco together! Ooh, is that him I hear coming down the hallway? Just enough time to answer one question, if I hurry.

You and Draco are touring Diagon Alley, arm in arm. He suddenly pulls up, gives you a mischievous wink, and tells you he just spied something he simply must buy for you. He makes you shut your eyes and count to ten, so you don't know what shop he's entered. When you open them, he's gone. You're quite moved, because Draco doesn't think most people are worth spending money on, but he thinks you are! You decide that a pressie sounds lovely, but not just for you, for him as well! And off you go on a pressie-hunt! What would you buy him? And what do you think he would buy you?



"Dragon!" I laugh as we get bumped from side-to-side as we walk down Diagon Alley. "Where are we going?"

Draco, or as I call him, Dragon, gives me that grey-eyed wink that sets my heart melting every time I see it. "It's a surprise, Onyx." I shiver as his special nickname for me spills from his perfect lips like honey. "Don't you like surprises?"

I chuckle. "Of course I do! You must know that!"

He stops, pulling me up beside him. "I do know that. Now, close your eyes."

I do as I'm told, and he spins me around. Stopping me, he walks me in a direction that I can't tell, because I'm so disoriented from spinning. I step into sudden coolness and I hear my Dragon close a door, shutting out the sounds of shoppers. I hear his footsteps echo hollowly on a wood floor as he comes up behind me.

"Count to ten, then open your eyes, OK?" he whispers in my ear. I nod as his breath stirs my hair slightly. I rush through the numbers in my head and open my eyes. I'm standing in an empty, dust-covered room. There's a small table in the corner, with two chairs beside it. All three items are covered in one white sheet each. I walk over and lift off the sheets. The chairs are plushy and softer then you can imagine, and they're a deep green, just like the green of Slytherin, the House that both Dragon and I were in three short years ago. I find a scuffed up rock under the shiny oak table.

On a stroke of genius, I quickly Transfigure the rock and hide it in my robes as Dragon walks back into the room with a to-die-for smile on his face. "Do you like it? It took me forever to find and stock."

I smile back. "I love the room, but what to you mean by stock?"

Dragon hits his forhead with the flat of his palm, which amuses me, because I really thought that only book characters did that. He waves his wand and I watch the Concealing charm fall off the walls. New books, old tombs, manuscripts, scolls, every type of reading material possible is on those now-revealed shelves. I gasp in delight and rush over, taking out Hogwarts: A History to read Property of the Onyx Library inscribed on the inside cover, and I somehow know that Onyx Library is written outside over the door. I walk over to Dragon and kiss him hard. "Thank you," I say.

I pull out the Transfigured rock from my robes. "This is for you."

It's a man's ring on a silver chain. The ring is silver, with a silver dragon coiled protectivly around an onyx. The silver dragon twiches it's tail and opens it's mouth in a silent roar. Dragon smiles and puts it around his neck. He doesn't say anything, but just shows me his gratitude by kissing me again among the watching books.



Well, that's all for-

Hello, everyone, I hear from Onyx that you are part of a fan club devoted to me. I'm touched and amazed, but I must take my beautiful girl away for now. We are going to the Onyx Library. I will return her to her beloved Muggle contraption that she insists is called a "computer" in a couple of hours.

~ Draco Malfoy

*Peeks head into a dark room and calls, "Hello? Is there anyone in here? Where did everyone go?* Surely Tom/Draco fans haven't disappeared!

I was wondering who in here have heard Tom sing? There is a sample of his singing on YouTube. The link is in Darcy's signature. I bought his demo albums from Amazon.com. There are three albums equaling a total of ten songs. I love them! The songs are fun and sweet and I really love his voice, I didn't really expect him to be a tenor. For some reason I was expecting his voice to be a bit deeper. My favorite is 'Time Well Spent'.

What do you guys think?

I have a question up for debate.

In DH, chapter Malfoy Manor, Draco was hesitant to identify Harry, Ron and Hermione. Why do you think that was? Why wasn't getting back into Voldemort's favor more important to him?

~Dayna

Edit~ Err. . . ok, so I just read some old posts and this question was brought up last August. Sorry guys! Perhaps some of the new members want to take a shot at the question. . .

Wow! Umm I've sure missed a lot!

Sister to the Dark Lord:
What would you buy him? And what do you think [Draco] would buy you?
Well, since as you said, Draco is definately not the type to want to spend money on people. When and if he chose to do so, he would definately want it to be something big...that's just Malfoy nature. So, seeing as how I have quidditch-dependent tendencies, he would get me a wicked-awesome broom!

For him...I would probably do the same, but I'm not really sure...I mean what do you get a person who already has everything? Draco=Perfect!

Zwillo, no worries, I assure you, we haven't disappeared there are just *gasp* some things that keep us away from Draco and that "responsibility" drags us to do. As to your question, it may have been discussed before, but that's no reason to not bring it up again. As you said, new members may not have had a chance to answer it yet.

Later fellow fan-girls...I'm off to dream of Draco!
-Karina

Hey guys! Is it just me or has this thread been sort of quiet lately? Hmm, since it seems that we have run out of things to talk about how about these questions: (They're sort of holiday-ish in a way I suppose.)

How do you think that Draco feels about Christmas?
Seeing as how he's such a quiet and kind of alone person it would be interesting to see what you guys think goes through Draco's mind on this oh-so-special holiday.

Draco's parents. If they wouldn't have spoiled him so much (in every sense of the word), what do you think his personality would be like?
Just curious. Do you think that if he'd been raised differently he would be a different Draco?
Just something to get us started up again. Can't wait to see what you guys think.

Peace,
Karina

How do you think that Draco feels about Christmas?

I don't really think Christmas would mean anything to Draco besides getting a holiday from school. I'm sure that the Malfoy's family isn't religious, so that aspect of the holiday would be lost to him. And getting gifts, I'm sure, would be a common occurance for him, so that would take away even the commercial aspect of Christmas. What else would there be except the chance to go home for a couple of weeks?

Draco's parents. If they wouldn't have spoiled him so much (in every sense of the word), what do you think his personality would be like?

This is a difficult question to answer. He would be different, how could he not be. He probably wouldn't have been so arrogant. But other than that, I don't know. Because his father still would have been up to his neck in the dark arts, and still set on his pure-blood supremacy pedestal. So I guess even his arrogance would have still been there. He would have had to be raised completely differently to be different, I think. Hmmm. . . I'll have to think some more on that one and come back.

Karina~ I know. . . where did everyone go? It seems like as soon as I join, everyone scatters. . . *smells myself to check for any stink* Hmm. . . I don't think I stink. . .

~Dayna

Sorry I haven't been on, the roller coaster of life is going haywire right now, so I've been a litte preocupied (sp?). Whoooooooooooooooooa! *grabs handlebar* I won't be able to type long, I've gotta hang on so I don't get thrown off!

How do you think that Draco feels about Christmas?

I think that Draco sees Christmas as a couple weeks off from school. If anything, Christmas probably is nothing but a fancy party that the Malfoys throw to show off their Galleons and the favour that the Dark Lord gives them.

How do you think that Draco feels about Christmas?

I would agree with you guys, he really doesn't seem to have much of a christmas spirit. He does give the impression that he feels Christmas is more of a break than something that ought to be celebrated. And of course the gifts would be a plus...after all he does tend to get spoiled. Which brings me to my second question:

Draco's Parents. If they hadn't spoiled him so much (in every sense of the word), what do you think his personality would be like?

Like zwillo, I'd say that in order for him to change, the way he was raised would have to be changed completely. But if he hadn't been as spoiled as he is, then he wouldn't be so dependent on that and always expect to get what he wants. Also, if he had not been brought up to believe that muggle-borns were scum, he would have been a different person all-together. Although a nicer Draco would be cool, we love him as a bad boy.

-Karina

Everything seems to be slowing down here, doesn't it? Well, here's a question that will hopefully put some life back into DODDD! If, of course, it hasn't already been answered. I seem to have a knack for coming up with questions that have already been asked, answered, and forgotten.

If Draco hadn't been a Slytherin, what House do you think he would've been Sorted into?

Hi guys! I'd like to join the club. I have a newly found liking of the bad boys, namely Draco. And since this thread is all about Draco, it makes sense for me to join. And I have to thank Dayna, actually, for getting me really into Draco. You and your fanfics are completely awesome.

How do you think that Draco feels about Christmas?

He probably doesn't like it much. He could get sick of his parents throwing stuff at him and making him live up to all of their expectations. He doesn't get to choose his own path for life. I think if he found someone he cared about, he would like to spend Christmas with her. He just doesn't have the right company over the Christmas holidays. Poor guy.

Draco's Parents. If they hadn't spoiled him so much (in every sense of the word), what do you think his personality would be like?

Well he definitely wouldn't be as arrogant. Not so full and sure of himself. He could also be more giving to others, because he would know what it felt like to want something and not be able to get it. But like Dayna said, he would've still had the Dark Arts in his life. That would've messed around with him a lot anyway.



You know it. That's why I "fell in love" with him in the first place. The badness, but gentle underside he has, is the best thing about him.

If Draco hadn't been a Slytherin, what House do you think he would've been Sorted into?

Gryffindor. He seems like a brave and good man at heart (in the sense that he doesn't want to hurt people). I honestly think he and Harry have some stuff in common. The same type of personality at least, even if they're really complete opposites. The both hold power over people and protect the ones they care about. He probably would've been sorted into Gryffindor if his family hadn't been so involved in the Dark Arts.

~alyssa~

Alyssa~ YAY! Welcome to the wonderful world of Draco! I'm so glad I could enlighten you.

I've noticed that VTM in general is quite a bit slower lately. Hopefully it will pick up again when HBP is released. *crosses fingers*

As for the new question:

If Draco hadn't been a Slytherin, what House do you think he would've been Sorted into?

I think there is a good possibility he could have ended up in Ravenclaw. He seems to be pretty bright. He got good marks in his classes, right? And he's pretty witty, I think.

~Dayna

Haven't been here in awhile, have I?

Oh dear. You know, I thought it was so cool that Tom has a Twitter account and is posting everyday. I'm not thinking it's so cool anymore. I'm not too pleased with him. I suppose he might forget that not all of his fan base are girls his own age. Maybe some of us are older. Maybe some of us might not think it's so funny that he is making 'jokes' about what people over 40 should own (he says people over 40 shouldn't have iPhones). I don't find that amusing in the least. It's ageism. It's no different than racism or sexism, except that eventually everyone who lives long enough will face it. And it isn't funny.

A couple of us tried to gently admonish him with humor, but he just blew us off in favor of praising Taylor Swift's talent. What-ever. People in the public eye should be more tactful.

What House would Tom be put in? Have to wonder. Sorry. I'm too annoyed to be a good respondent today.

First off, welcome to the club, Alyssa! Hey there Aethenon, our proud founder, good to see you back around here again.
Now for the question at hand.

If Draco hadn't been a Slytherin, what House do you think he would've been Sorted into?

If Draco hadn't been sorted into Slytherin, I believe that he would have probably been a Gryffindor, like most of you said. Because deep down, he is a good person. He has all the values that a Gryffindor should have but he also managed to retain those certain *special* qualities that make us Slytherins so different from the brave and daring Gryffindors. No offense anyone.

Short answer, I know. Sorry, I'll try to drop in again soon.

-Karina

P.S. Aethenon, I agree he shouldn't assume that only certain age groups of people like him. And even if he does that shouldn't give him an excuse to be rude.

If Draco hadn't been a Slytherin, what House do you think he would've been Sorted into?

I'm really stuck here. I don't quite think Gryffindor, because although he did show some instances of bravery, it's not really enough to make him a 'true gryffindor' and I think the REASONS behind why he was brave were different to Gryffindor values, if that makes sense. Perhaps Ravenclaw, but he only really seems like a good student, not an exceptional one so...

The last house to consider is Hufflepuff. I know it sounds a bit ridiculous, but maybe that's the house he would be sorted into. He seems very loyal to his parents, and also to Crabbe and Goyle at times. However, I don't think the Hufflepuff quality 'non-judgemental' really applies to him.

I'm really not sure. I think the reason I can't find another house for him is because he was destined to be in Slytherin .

Ellie
xxx

Hey, I was wondering...
Is it too late for me to join? Since this was started sooooo long ago I didn't know. But I'm totally obsessed with Draco, he's been my favorite character from the train in SS all the way through DH. Anyways, if I can still join, that'd be great =)

slytherin_girlyyy~ Of course you can join! New members are alway welcome, just feel free to jump into the discussions and if you think of any questions that you think should be up for discussion, we'd love to hear it!

~Dayna

If Draco hadn't been a Slytherin, what House do you think he would've been Sorted into?

This is a really hard question, because he is a true slytherin. He could have made a great Gryffindor, but at times, he is really just not brave. He could have been a Ravenclaw, because he is a good student, but I don't think he's good enough to be a Ravenclaw. [I think most of his good marks are just from sucking up. Which is AWESOME!!] I don't think he could've been a Hufflepuff. He never really shows loyalty to anyone. So, I think he should've been a Slythindor.

<3DaNi=)

Thank you for welcoming me, Dayna and Karina!



Even though I agree with you, Aethonon, I have to think about the fact that so many other people are also probably posting similar things that insult similar age groups. What I'm getting at is that it's not completely fair to Tom to have to think about what he's saying all of the time just because he is famous. We have so many expectations of celebrities that we often forget that they need to live life too. We watch them too closely sometimes and it's not very fair to them. I'm very sorry that what he said offended you, though.

I thought it was funny in one of his posts how he said he gave his mom and ipod. It ran out of battery and she didn't know you could recharge it, so she gave it to charity. I think that is hilarious.

~alyssa~

Oh, I'm getting over it. At least he's now having a 'Dog Idol' contest, which is very cute because he's engaging his fans in something fun. I am like that--get really annoyed and then I cool off and think better of things. Sorry I vented here.

EDIT -- On another note, though, I do think he has to watch what he says, for the simple fact that he is famous. I think he'll be even more famous after HBP comes out, since, after several movies of barely being given lines, Draco is a significant part of the story. Other than the line about Blackberrys and iPhones, though, I haven't seen any other faux pas, so I actually think he's doing really well. What he's undertaking is rather risky, really. None of the other actors from HP have been as forthcoming and friendly as he has been. As long as he keeps it light, and doesn't make remarks of a personal nature, such as who should be doing what based on their color, age, country of origin, etc. -- (i.e. discriminatory and off-puttingly personal comments), he'll do fine.

Oh, and durh! Welcome to the newcomers! We're so pleased to see you here--if it weren't for Dayna keeping us pumped up, we would have lulled to the bottom of the list! Ack! Can't let that happen to our Draco!

It's ok, Aethonon, I can do the same thing sometimes. See something and be mad about it, then think about it later and see it another way. I totally get it! Plus, I vent all the time on here, so it's no problem.

And you're right. As long as he is being considerate of all the different groups of people in the world, he is fine. And I was not trying to say that we should excuse what he says just because he is famous. I do think that he should be held to the same expectations everybody else who is "normal" faces. But that is exactly what I think. He needs to be held to the exact same expectations, no more or less.

~alyssa~