padfoot17
Jan 3 2007, 01:00 AM
Okay I just thought of this and wondered what the great people of VTM thought about it. We all know that when Dumbldore died

, that Harry thought he seen a phoenix for a split second. Later in the book Harry heard Fawkes lamnent. Harry knew that when it was over, Fawkes had left him forever. So then I read somewhere that Harry was going to be getting a new pet. So what if this new pet is Dumbledore. Dumbledore was old so when he died he was reborn from the ashes and became a phoenix. What if he becomes the phoenix that would be Harry's new pet.
Another thing if this was true who do you think Fawkes would have been. I thought of
Godric Gryffindor. Not sure about that.
Tell me what you think.
Louise
Jan 3 2007, 10:27 AM
Hi there,
Feel free to talk about the possibility of Harry getting a new pet here, but please don't make this another "Dumbledore comes back" thread, because we already have one of those
here. We also have several thread about Fawkes which you can find
here .
So as long as you stick to the topic, I'll leave this thread open. If it starts straying onto the other topics, I'm afraid I will need to lock it.
Perhaps if you stated the source for this information? Because I haven't heard anything that JKR has said implying Harry's going to have a new pet.
Fenixong
Jan 3 2007, 04:29 PM
I would also recommend you check out
this topic as it discusses the idea that DD was reborn as a phoenix and if this new phoenix will become Harry's new pet. Cheers!
thatsProfessortoyou
Jan 3 2007, 05:08 PM
How about Fluffy for a new pet?
I don't see Harry being tied down with anything too high maintenance. (I like the Phoenix but since we can't talk about it here....

)
Buckbeak would be obvious and practicle since Sirius is dead and there is no one to take care of him. He likes Harry and could be useful.
A snake would also be obvious but I don't see that happening.
A dragon would be cool. Flying and cooking would be easy (if you like your meat WELL done

)
A unicorn would be very practicle since it iw one of the most magical and pure beings in the world but that might not be good at the same time.
more later - got a class coming in....
Aguamenti353
Jan 3 2007, 08:44 PM
I hope this is sticking to the topic(I'm not saying anything about DD coming back).....but I think that Fawkes will be Harry's new pet. I believe that when Dumbledore died, maybe he had talked to Fawkes and told him that when he died, go to Harry. I believe this is something DD would do, as it would be very useful to Harry.
Fawkes can:
1.Carry immensely heavy loads.
2. Send messages.
3.Heal wounds with his tears
4.Die and be reborn from the ashes.
These things could help Harry very much in his ongoing quest for revenge against Voldemort.
Fluffy would be a cool pet too, but I dunno....how would you train him?
thatsProfessortoyou
Jan 3 2007, 08:49 PM
Since Harry thinks Fawkes isn't coming back to Hogwarts, as stated by many from the book, perhaps Fawkes is going to the Dursley's to wait for Harry!!
But we are not supposed to talk about him here

sorry Louise!!!
padfoot17
Jan 3 2007, 11:15 PM
No I didn't mean to say that DD is coming back from the dead. As a human being he is dead. There is no coming back after what Snape did. I will not argue with anyone on that. JK said he was dead. I believe her. What I am saying is that maybe he will come back as a phoenix and be Harry's new pet. I was wondering if maybe Fawkes was someone such as Godric Gryffindor and came back as a phoenix.
As for where I found the info on Harry getting a new pet
Louise, I can't remember it has been so long ago. This topic is I guess a mix of DD coming back and Harry getting a new pet. I know what you mean when you say you don't want another DD being alive thread. But I see that
Fenixong has put up a thread for the exact same thing. So if you feel the need to close this thread please do so.

I forgot about the thread
Fenixong put up. Sorry
Louise.
Louise
Jan 4 2007, 12:29 AM
It's okay, don't worry.

I mean, it's up to you I can lock it if you want me to, if what you really wanted to talk about was Harry's new pet being Fawkes - because that aspect
is really covered in Fenixong's thread. Let me know then
padfoot17
Jan 5 2007, 12:23 AM
i was saying that maybe Godric Gryffindor died and became Fawkes. But since Fawkes is gone, maybe when DD died he might have come back as a phoenix and be Harry's new pet. I mean Fawkes is supposed to be gone. Harry said that himself. But we all know that.
iheartron
Jan 6 2007, 09:10 PM
i'm sorry to say that I think the whole "DD becoming a phoenix is rubbish. It's to farfetched. But anyway, I did read somewhere on VTM that harry will be getting a new pet. It would be awesome if he got snuffles, but that's to unlikely unfourtunatly. So i think he is going to get Wormtail (aka scabbers). He owes him his life so maybe harry takes the oppurtunity and locks him up in a cage and takes him along with him everywhere. Just a thought.
<3
padfoot17
Jan 23 2007, 01:45 AM
Yeah it might not happen, but DD said that he will have never truly left until none that remain are loyal to him. What better way to show that than becoming a blue phoenix with blue flames. I am not saying he is a animagus or that he will know that he is a phoenix. But that would still be pretty cool.
Moon(I luv you Luna)
Jan 24 2007, 04:09 AM
I dunno what he'll get, but i think he'll name it after someone who died. If a dog-Sirius. If a Phoenix (Or something simalar) Dumbledore, or Albus. Lol, i would if it were me.
If i had to guess, i would say Fawkes, but i think Fawkes has gone on with Dumbledore. If you get what i mean, and good luck with that (I don't even get what i mean)
So ... yeah.
mayfair
Jan 24 2007, 02:46 PM
As far as Harry's new pet goes, what I would like to consider is the motivation for him to go and acquire a new pet. I mean what use will Harry have for getting a new pet, he doesn't need an own since he's already go Hedwig. Phoenixes such as Fawkes are rare magical creatures who'll stay with someone only of their own volition, so the matter of Harry choosing to acquire a phoenix- Fawkes or another- would be solely dependent on whether the phoenix in question would acquiesce. Now I am not sure how much support is there in canon for this kind of a theory, I know it's fairly prevalent in fanfictions.
If Harry is seeking some sort of a companionship that's exclusive to him, he might go for a snake. Now that's another idea done to death in fanfictions, but makes sense since Harry being a parselmouth may find it convenient to express his thoughts openly without anyone getting a hang of it. But then, in his past six years in the wizarding world, he's never shown an inclination to use that gift of his except in the second year, so his willingness here would definitely be an issue here.
Other possibilities are him getting a dog, cat (highly unlikely) or horse (flights of fancy). It'll be interesting to see what kind of a companion does he get
thatsProfessortoyou
Jan 25 2007, 12:22 AM
As far as Hedwig, I don't think Harry will get rid of her but JKR has mentioned several times that Hedwig is very noticable. Many people know her as Harry's 'pet'. He will need some other way of communicating with people that isn't so obvious.
I don't know about the snake. It is too much like LV unless he gets the burmese snake that he set free in PS/SS. That would be interesting. The snake owes him a debt.
OOOHH!
What about Buckbeak? Sirius was taking care of him. He is in Grimauld place and now has no one to take care of him. He can help Harry. He can protect Harry. He can fly Harry where he needs to go. Harry can take care of him.
Mrs Figgy
Jan 25 2007, 12:42 AM
I thought about Buckbeak, but Harry can apparate now so doesn't need help to get around. Hagrid now has Buckbeak and calls him Witherwings. (HPB ch3)
I REALLY want Harry's new pet to be Fawkes. Harry couldn't have a better protector, and I think that as DD cared for Harry, so did Fawkes. I do think it would be Fawkes' decision, not Harry's.
padfoot17
Feb 2 2007, 03:29 PM
I know it sounds weird , but think about it. If Fawkes is gone and Harry is to get a new pet who better than DD reincarnated into a Blue Phoenix. I am not saying that it would know who it was, but act like DD in a essence. But this phoenix would be more powerful than any other phoenix. Even if you don't believe it won't happen it is still pretty cool. DD is dead and will not come back. J.K. said that herself. He is not an animagus. But DD will never have truly left until the ones that remian are no linger loyal. There is so much about him we haven't learned. But we can't speak on that hear. Louise would get me.
thatsProfessortoyou
Feb 4 2007, 04:39 PM
Ok, right, I forgot about Buckbeak going back to Hagrid.
We know that JKR likes to tie things previously mentioned in (Dedalus, Stan etc.) What about the Boa Constrictor from Brazil from PS/SS? The snake, technically, owes Harry a debt for understanding and then releasing him.
Harry could meet up with him and they could kindle a friendship. This snake could be the antithesis of Nagini?
pumpkinjuice
Feb 4 2007, 05:33 PM
That is so weird, Prof--I had exactly the same thought, and thought I posted it here but it was apparently elsewhere......how, after all, was that snake going to get back to Brazil from Britain? OK, Boa constrictors can handle rivers, but not oceans.....
Having a snake makes total sense, it being a pet he can communicate with and use to infiltrate LV's camp or fight Nagini or whatever. Oh my....wait....Nagini couldnt BE that Boa Harry set free, could it?
thatsProfessortoyou
Feb 4 2007, 05:40 PM
OOOhhh!!! wouldn't that be something!! However Nagini has been around Harry an not shown any recognition etc. I don't think so. We already have PP who owes Harry and will have to betray LV to pay Harry back. I don't seem having the snake do the same thing.
I prefer the 'my snake is better than yours' theory.

I like the spying and ultimatly fighting Nagini ideas.
Mrs Figgy
Feb 7 2007, 01:46 AM
I have always thought it very likely that the snake in the zoo was the same as Nagini. After all, how many boas can there be wandering around in England? If they are the same, the snake does owe Harry, and Harry can use all the people/creatures he can get indebted to him. On the other hand, I don't see this snake being his pet, unless it becomes his pet following the downfall of LV. Then I can definitely see it.
Haggar
Mar 23 2007, 02:20 PM
Well i think that the pheonix might become harrys new pet but also they said that the pheonix was gone and flew in to the forrbidden forrest
Weasley King
Mar 29 2007, 08:57 AM
first off, Padfoot17, I think ur mental. Dumbledore is gone and most definitely not going to be a pet. He does have a picture in the Headmaster's Office now.
I think the pet will be Buckbeak (Witherwings), Fawkes, or some new creature. Most likely Fawkes, seeing as Buckbeak is already Harry's (living with Hagrid), and Fawkes and Harry already have a strong connection.
Fawkes is going to help Harry in book seven. He has helped Dumbledore all over the place:
Lookout on Umbridge
Taking a shot from LV at the Ministry
etc.
He can do the same for Harry
snapesgirlforlife
Apr 6 2007, 09:05 PM
What ever happened to Hedwig??? isn't Hedwig Harry's owl??? i guess you'll have to forgive me, but i haven't read all of book 6....so if Hedwig dies or something in the 6th book, then i didn't know, but what about Hedwig, and whatever happened to him??? that's my question....
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House: Gryffindor Wand: Unicorn Hair, Willow, 10 inches Pet: Elf Owl
Pet's Name: Semanee(as in Gethsemanee) Teacher: Snape
Animagus: Puppy Patronus: Jaguar
Boy Friend: Neville Longbottom Best Friend: Hermione Granger
Steve Irwin- The Crocodile Hunter- R.I.P.
"We all miss you, Steve!!!"
PhoenixCycle
Apr 12 2007, 07:19 PM
That is exactly what I was thinking. It makes so much more sense. Fawkes is gone. But what if mrs. rowling pursued the angle of reincarnation in the sense that dumbledore died and a phoenix rose from his ashes. In fact maybe thats how you aquire a phoenix as a pet...that someone your close to and loyal to has to die and under certain circumstances a phoenix is born from the ashes. I think in the exact same way.
PhoenixCycle aka Drist Mason
DracosLady
Apr 12 2007, 09:44 PM
I hafta agree with snapesgirlforlife, where is Hedwig? I was not aware that anything had happened to his beloved owl? Why would JK get rid of Hedwig, unless she flew away or something... I still think that Hedwig will be back in Deathly Hallows, maybe Harry will just get another pet as well.... Any thoughts on this?
Marcey
Dobby'sboggart
Apr 12 2007, 11:07 PM
Harry's new pet will be a monkey! It's name will be Chimp-Chimp!
The monkey will distract the Death Eaters. While they are going, "Ahhh, look at the cute monkey!", the trio will sneak around and fight the naughty forces of darkness!
Lol!
Abraxas
May 20 2007, 12:08 PM

How many times do you guys have to be told!? Dumbledore is dead, caput, finished! D-E-A-D! Dead, as in NOT making some dramatic reappearance, NOT turing out to have a twin brother and most DEFINETELY NOT being reincarnated as Harry's pet phoenix which we don't even know exists. I'm glad Draco didn't kill him. I'm also really interested to see what happens to Draco in book 7. Bet he turns into a good guy. Voldemort might kill his mum or something and that'll just like drive him over the edge and then he'll go into to hiding with the OotP.
Insomnia
May 20 2007, 03:20 PM
QUOTE
How many times do you guys have to be told!? Dumbledore is dead, caput, finished! D-E-A-D! Dead, as in NOT making some dramatic reappearance, NOT turing out to have a twin brother and most DEFINETELY NOT being reincarnated as Harry's pet phoenix which we don't even know exists.
Abraxas, everyone knows by now that DD is dead, and unless you are JKR, you don't know if a phoenix was born from DD's death/flames. As DD was such a great and powerful wizards, it is possible that one was. Harry saw a phoenix emerge from DD's flames. Granted, he could have imagined it, but we don't know for sure. Until DH, there are no definites.
thetennisBean
Jun 7 2007, 04:25 AM
Well,
I guess Dumbledore being reborn from ashes isn't too far fetched an idea. It could happen I guess. But if Dumbledore wanted to live again, wouldn't he find some different way? But I also think that Dumbledore is really gone, JKR wouldn't have killed him off if she didn't wan[/i]t him dead. Unless it's really necessary he come back, I don't think JKR would bring him back. But I do agree with you about the Godric Griffindor thing. It makes a lot of sense. Oh, and what house do you think Dumbledore belonged to? For some odd reason I keep thinking it's Slytherin. In return, could you tell me what you think?
Insomnia
Jun 7 2007, 04:48 AM
QUOTE(thetennisBean @ Jun 7 2007, 04:25 AM) [snapback]395486[/snapback]
Well,
I guess Dumbledore being reborn from ashes isn't too far fetched an idea. It could happen I guess. But if Dumbledore wanted to live again, wouldn't he find some different way? But I also think that Dumbledore is really gone, JKR wouldn't have killed him off if she didn't wan[/i]t him dead. Unless it's really necessary he come back, I don't think JKR would bring him back. But I do agree with you about the Godric Griffindor thing. It makes a lot of sense. Oh, and what house do you think Dumbledore belonged to? For some odd reason I keep thinking it's Slytherin. In return, could you tell me what you think?
This is off topic, but all the evidence points to DD being in Gryffindor. Here is a piece from wikipedia.com:
"His house affiliation is certainly that of Gryffindor as he once states to Harry that he had put a certain curtain on fire in the Gryffindor dormitory. Many of the decorations in his office also point to him having been in Gryffindor. "About DD becoming a pheonix, I don't think it is so much of DD being "reborn" as a pheonix, but that a pheonix was born from DD. It's kind of confusing, but there is a difference. In other words, DD is dead and he did not change forms to become a pheonix. His soul did not transfer into a pheonix. However, I would think that an "essence" of DD may have gone into the birthing process of the pheonix, but the pheonix is just that and not DD reborn. I don't think DD will come back among the living in any form. However, he still has a part to play, but it will be through other means.
But of course all that is theoretical. Harry could have imagined the pheonix he saw or it may have just been Fawkes saying his farewell to DD. Whether it is a new pheonix or Fawkes, one of them I believe will be Harry's new pet.
Sirren
Jun 7 2007, 03:02 PM
The Phoenix Harry saw rise from the tomb and fly away, I believe to have been DD's Patronus, which was a Phoenix.
Should Fawkes choose to be with Harry now that DD is dead, the might qualify as Harry's new pet. JKR did say years ago, thus far Harry has only gotten Kreacher; I don't he qualifies as a pet. ICK!
tonks582uk
Jun 10 2007, 01:37 PM
i think a thestral might b a good idea
white_bumblebee
Jun 10 2007, 01:49 PM
now we have all seen the new deluxe cover for the deathly hallows, showing harry and co riding a dragon, could this not be his new pet. i know people will say you cant tame a dragon and it would be ridiculous to have one as a pet, but it does seem tame enough to let him ride it! although some people will also say its not a real animal its an animagus. but it could be norbert? so why not, it could be his new pet? just a thought.
lukeuk
Jun 10 2007, 03:13 PM
I agree whith white dumbledore that it is a dragon but i dont think it is an animagus. There is a theory that dumbledore created a horcrux and we know that when voldemort made a horcrux he posessed snakes and things and eventually quirell so why couldnt dumbledore posess the dragon. on the duelex cover notice the silver beard. And we know that the silver beard is normally associated with dumbledore so couldnt dumbledore have possesesed the dragon seen as he cant get back to his real body. its only a thought but to me it makes sence. feel free to criticise if you sont agree
white_bumblebee
Jun 10 2007, 03:24 PM
its a nice idea
lukeuk, but im not sure.... for a start when dumbledore tells harry about voldemorts horcruxes he says that using an animal is risky and unreliable becasue you are trusting an animal that can act and think for itself with a piece of your soul! so im not sure if DD would do something like that, if he did i think it would be more likely that he made a horcrux with a pheoinix as they are loyal and more trustworthy to guard your horcrux! also he loves pheonixs and im not sureif hes particulalry fond of dragons.
but i still think that this dragon could be harrys new pet, and i too am not sure if its an animagus?
btw my name is white_bumblebee not white_dumbledore LOL but d/w im being picky
completely_mental
Jul 11 2007, 01:21 AM
I always thought that Fwakes liked Harry seccond best to DD.I reckon in DH Fwakes would come back to help Harry like PS. Fwakes would be a great pet for Harry. Trestral would be to big for a pet that could always be with Harry and Fwakes is more loyal.
poisonsnape
Jul 18 2007, 06:09 PM
On the cover of Harry potter and the deathly hallows, we see harry on a freaking dragon... i think HE (the dragon) could be his new pet or have a close relation ship....yes its sound weird lol but i saw the cover on a other thread and i dont see an other reason for harry to be on a dragon and also the dragon scare me
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