GUYS GUYS GUYS!!! wow, i didnt think people would be so...enthusiastic!!

I love the wallpapers! eventually i think i would want to put everything on a webpage, but i may have to pick the best wallpapers (thats going to be so hard!) because they take up a lot of space!
Nevillesgirl has voluntereed to do a more litertary based thing, and ideally, we need a short/medium fic, maybe some one-shots, theories in writing would be really good, like why DD trusted Snape, or why he is how he is, anything you can come up with, the more unusual the better!
Quotes are always brilliant, if we could get a section of quotes, either that DD said, or that relate to him well, that would be really good!
Any ideas are welcome, songs, poems, dialogues, monologues, descriptive passages, oh! a picture of DDs most prized possesions would be good, i may have a go at that myself actually... Anyway...anything would be great. Im putting all of the links that youve alll just posted in a word document, so they're alll together, but if you have any queries or things that you want to go directly to me just pm me!

so now... to help get this project off to a start... if you can find some poems and quotes and post them on the thread, i can add them to the list of 'possibles', but make sure they are really good matches, i wont add anything random or boring etc!

Remember, we need more than just wallpapers!!!

Clara}~

Hooray! Dumbledore quotes are my favorite .

Okay...here are a few.

"Nitwit! Blubber! Oddment! Tweak!"

"Your mother died to save you. If there is one thing Voldemort cannot understand, it is love."

"Don't be silly, Dawlish. I'm sure you are an excellent Auror, I seem to remember you achieved 'Outstanding' in all your N.E.W.T.s, but if you attempt to — er — 'bring me in' by force, I will have to hurt you."

"I will only truly have left this school when none here are loyal to me... Help will always be given at Hogwarts to those who ask for it."

"To the well organized mind, death is but the next great adventure."

"It is our choices, Harry, that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities."

"Fear of a name increases fear of a thing itself."

"Remember Cedric. Remember, if the time should come when you have to make a choice between what is right and what is easy, remember what happened to a boy who was good, and kind, and brave, because he strayed across the path of Lord Voldemort. Remember Cedric Diggory."

"I could break out, of course, but what a waste of time, and frankly I can think of a whole host of things I'd rather be doing."
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
(This one makes me laugh...it's when he's talking about Azkaban to Fudge in book 5 )

"Scars can come in handy. I have one myself above my left knee that is a perfect map of the London Underground."

"Alas! Ear wax!"

"No, I was merely reading the Muggle magazines," said Dumbledore. "I do love knitting patterns."

"Severus...please..."

I'll put more later, if needed.

Since we are on the subject of quotes, I will list some of my favorites as well. Unfortunately I have loaned out books 1,2,3 and 6 so I will be quoting from book 4 and 5.

"Merely taking your life would not satisfy me, I admit--"
pg 814 OOTP

"Cornelius, I am ready to fight your men--and win again!"
pg 817 OOTP

" I am not joking, Mr. Weasley," he said, " though now that you mention it, I did hear an excellent one over the summer about a troll, a hag, and a leprechaun who all go into a bar..."
pg 186 GoF

"Enchantingly nasty," said Dumbledore, his eyes twinkling. "I particularly enjoyed your description of me as an obsolete dingbat."
pg 307 GoF- in reference to Rita Skeeters newspaper article.

That's it for now...
~nevillesgirl

I love the quotes guys that you have posted I will be hard to post anymore as good as those but I'll try Here are ten of my favorite quotes by Dumbledore without repeating any alread said. Well I don't think I have repeated any

"I believe your friends Misters Fred and George Weasley were responsible for trying to send you a toilet seat. No doubt they thought it would amuse you."

"By all means continue destroying my possessions. I daresay I have too many."

"Humans have a knack for choosing precisely the things that are worst for them."

"It does not do to dwell on dreams and forget to live."

"You fail to recognize that it matters not what someone is born, but what they grow to be."

"It's lucky it's dark...I haven't blushed so much since Madame Pomfrey told me she liked my new earmuffs."

"No, I was merely reading the Muggle magazines," said Dumbledore. "I do love knitting patterns."

"What happened down in the dungeons between you and Professor Quirrell is a complete secret, so, naturally the whole school knows."

"There are all kinds of courage. It takes a great deal of courage to stand up to our enemies, but just as much to stand up to our friends."

"I am not worried, Harry," said Dumbledore, his voice a little stronger despite the freezing water. "I am with you."

I might post more but I'm not sure yet

oooo look at all those quotes. i don't think i can post any quotes...hasn't anyone virtally posted them all... yeah probably...

"To our newcomers," said Dumbledore in a ringing voice, stretching his hands wide and a beaming smile on his lips, "welcome! To our old hands -- welcome back! There is a time for speech-making, and this is not it. Tuck in!"

"I don't need a cloak to become invisible."

"I seem to remember telling you both that I would have to expel you if you broke any more school rules," said Dumbledore. Ron opened his mouth in horror. "Which goes to show that the best of us must sometimes eat our words."

"...I took a wrong turn on the way to the bathroom and found myself in a beautifully proportioned room I had never seen before, containing a really rather magnificent collection of chamberpots. When I went back to investigate more closely, I discovered that the room had vanished. But I must keep an eye out for it. Possibly it is only accessible at five thirty in the morning. Or it may only appear at the quarter moon - or when the seeker has an exceptionally full bladder."

"Harry, I owe you an explanation," said Dumbledore. "An explanation of an old man's mistakes. For I see now that what I have done, and not done, with regard to you, bears all the hallmarks of the failings of age. Youth cannot know how age thinks and feels. But old men are guilty if they forget what it was to be young...and I seem to have forgotten lately."

"Ah, music," he said, wiping his eyes. "A magic far beyond all we do here! And now, bedtime. Off you trot!"

"...in the light of Voldemort's return, we are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided. Lord Voldemort's gift for spreading discord and enmity is very great. We can fight it only by showing an equally strong bond of friendship and trust. Differences of habit and language are nothing at all if our aims are identical and our hearts are open."

i think i'll leave it there so other people can still find a few...

Oh dear Albuses Quotes. I have a feeling Clara is up to her eyes in quotes but it so much fun i have to do some. Clara so sorry but you know.

" And now Harry, let us step out into the night and pursue that flighty temptress adventure."
HBP. Page 58

" I take my hat off to you - or i would if i were not afraid of showering you in spiders."
HBP. Page 78

" Dark and difficult times lie ahead Harry, soon we must make the choice between what is right and what is easy!"
GOF film.


" I know what you are know as," said Dumbledore smiling pleasantly. " But to me, i'm afraid you will always be Tom Riddle. It is one of the irritating things abot old teachers, i am afraid, they never forget there charges youthful beginnings."
HBP. Page 414.

Ok i think that will do for now.

this might seem entirely random but i have to post this... part-of a fan fic i guess... tell my if you like it please.

Dumbledore was pacing his office as was his tradition every time he had something to ponder over. Up and down his room over and over again. If he had been concentrating on everything but his problem he would have felt tired and restless. As Headmaster of Hogwarts he had so many day-to-day matters to deal with and he was on his feet quite a bit. However the old headmaster did not care if he was tired, he did not think about it. He would ponder and delve into the mysteries of what he was thinking of until his feet were red raw if he had to. He always thought that little bit better on his feet.
He allowed himself to be consumed in his thoughts. He let the never ending questions circle his mind and the lost memories come back to him. It was no use; he needed to consult his pensive. And so he did and when the chamber opened up he took a few steps forward. It was not long before he felt himself whirling through the air and then found himself landing in the past firmly with two feet.

Before him were the recognisable sights of his past. He was at his home. True Hogwarts was his home but there had been a time when he lived away from the school. Dumbledore saw his more youthful self sitting in a chair by the fire but Dumbledore paid no attention to himself at all. He was looking intently at the woman sitting opposite.
She was young yet her forehead was etched with lines of worry. She was pale and looked as though she had seen better days. Her hair was dank and dark and resembled her dark and almost impenetrable eyes. She wore a great long cloak with kept her warm and concealed her clothes.
“What is it you had to say?” the younger Albus asked.
“Lots of things Albus. I hardly know where to begin.” she sighed deeply and coughed. “Only one thing is for certain,” she began.
“Go on…” Albus said.
“I need to know something.” she paused. “I need to know why you let him in.”
“You mean you need to know why I said yes to his application where another Headmaster wouldn’t.” Albus said cheerfully. It wasn’t a question, it was a statement. The woman nodded and coughed. “Because your son did not choose to be what he is.” he finished simply.
“Thank you Albus.” the woman said gently.
“Do not thank me, it was nothing. Now if you don’t mid I have a few questions for you before you continue. Is that okay?” he lowered his eyes to her level.
“Of course.”
“Very well. I trust that John is not here because he is busy watching Remus is he not?” the woman nodded.
“Remus gets rather… unpredictable at times. My husband and I are beginning to fear the worst.”
“Remus has a good heart, a good family. I doubt he will become that which you fear so greatly.” Albus said this slowly and the woman had noticed this change and shuffled a little as though she had become uncomfortable. She lifted her hand and out a strand of hair behind her ear… her cloak sleeve moved.

“Of course!” the older Albus cried. The woman quickly adjusted her sleeve so her arm was no longer visible but that did not matter. Dumbledore had seen it, something he’d missed all those years ago. Claw marks.

“Why do you fear it as greatly as you do?” the younger perhaps more curious Dumbledore asked.
“Do we not all have fear Albus?” she asked. “Do we not all fear for those that we love?”
Dumbledore nodded.

The scene blurred.
“What?” inquired the Headmaster. He couldn’t have to go already. He still had to find out what else he had missed about the night in question. But nevertheless regardless of how much Dumbledore felt he had to stay the time had come to leave. The mind could only take so much anyway. And so when he found himself back in his office he sighed and sat at his desk. he heard a knock on his door. Before responding he stared for a while.
“Come in.” he said.
“Sorry Albus. Was I disturbing anything?” asked McGonagall.
“No, no of course not Minerva. Have a seat.”

This is a fabulous beginning to a great unanswered question. I love how you raise a few questoins without directly providing the answers right away

~There are lots of things on Mrs. Lupin's mind. What are they?
~What is the worst fear of the Lupin family in regards to Remus? I can guess but it's fun to discover it through writing.
~When does this visit take place? Is it right before the start of term, first year or is it in the 5-7 years.
~It seems like Dumbledore is sort of glad that John is not present at the moment. Why?


These are some of the questions that have my mind spinning in a good way. This would be the very first fanfic I have read in regards to Lupin and what a better way then to do it from Dumbledores view.
Awesome!

Well done sis That was really good Are you going to continue it? Please say yes
I agree with nevillesgirl (I like your avatar by the way funny) that it is 'a fabulous beginning to a great unanswered question. I love how you raise a few questoins without directly providing the answers right away'
I loved it please write more Good work sis

While everyone is busy scribbling with their quills for the Albus Dumbledore Memiors, I thought I would pose a question just to keep us occupied on the thread as well I hope you don't mind Clara.

What do you think Dumbledore thought of his funeral? If he could have planned his own funeral who would he have chosen as the speaker? Who would he have invited ( or not)? Describe the setting he would have liked to have.

By the way, I really enjoyed a short story about Dumbledore I read in the *Completed FanFic Section* It was by Capricorn and I thought it was great. Check it out.~nevillesgirl

What do you think Dumbledore thought of his funeral? If he could have planned his own funeral who would he have chosen as the speaker? Who would he have invited ( or not)? Describe the setting he would have liked to have.

I think he would have been dissapointed that so many poeple cried. You know I dont really see DD as the funeral type. I think he would have had them move his portrait to the great hall and celebrate...his next great adventure... He would feast and makesure all his favorite treats were on the tabels...lots of oak matured mead. If he had a choice is what I mean to say. As far as who would have spoken...Everyone could have gotten up and said something. I know this seems like it would take forever but its just how I see DD leaving us. No somber funeral for this man nope.

I am going to read your little Fan fiction soon Jade and give you the verdict later. Now the question.


What do you think Dumbledore thought of his funeral? If he could have planned his own funeral who would he have chosen as the speaker? Who would he have invited ( or not)? Describe the setting he would have liked to have.

Oh well er this is another hard thing. But ok i think he would have had cgongall and some weel known teachers doing the speaking. I don't think he would chosse Harry because that would draw atention to the fact that Dumblesore and Harry where close. I think the setting hen had anyway he would have liked it. Except the speaker who had no idea of what Dumbledore would have said.



I really agree there. Dumbledore is like Gandalf in the sense that the face death and laugh.. Bravely sort of.

Aww Thanks guys those quotes are brilliant. I think when i put them together ill put them into groups -Inspirational quotes by DD, Funny Quotes by DD, and any other categories that i think we need.... And i think that we should have enugh there

Jade thats really great. If you want to continue it that would be great, and it can go on the site. Remember though everybody, we do want somethings to be a bit of a surprise, and you can always pm directly to me, then we can have a grand opening!!!

... what do you think Dumbledore thought of his funeral? If he could have planned his own funeral who would he have chosen as the speaker? Who would he have invited ( or not)? Describe the setting he would have liked to have.

Oh thank you soo much Nevillesgirl, i was dreading having to come up with something to keep us roughly on track!

So...I agree that he wouldnt really want people to cry, but he was wise enough to know that people would miss him, and that for the average person, crying is the best way to deal with loss... I think he would have wanted a quite small funeral, he knew many people, but only a few of them really knew him. I think he would have liked the Trio, but no other kids, Mcgonnagal and Snape, (yes, i know Snape killed him, but in a perfect world...) and his brother Abeforth.. and Fawkes, Unless there was anybody else that he was particularly close to, thats it. There may be one speech, or maybe just the 'phoenix lament'.
Then, afterwards they would all have an open air feast, with the four tables moved outside and an extra one, everybody would be there, and there would be butterbeer for all, and plenty of food. The house elves would also eat out there, and all of the people from the ministry that wanted to come..hm...maybe they may need a sixth table. This would be the time for speeches from all the relevant people, and then all of the tables dissappeared, and there would be dancing all through the night, just to show that DD lives on, forever.

Clara}~

what do you think Dumbledore thought of his funeral? If he could have planned his own funeral who would he have chosen as the speaker? Who would he have invited ( or not)? Describe the setting he would have liked to have.

I agree with you guys, he probably would have liked it to be small, filled with only his close friends and maybe some Hogwarts proffesors. I think that he would have like there to be an open platform, where anyone who wanted to give a few words could have the opportunity to do so. He would have liked Hagrid to speak, Hagrid was one of the main recipients of Dumbledore's kindness and compassion.

By the way, I'm in the middle of writing a short story...so I'll post that when it is finished.

Thanks Clara for running with my question...
~I don't think Dumbledore would have been impressed with his funeral. He would have been polite I think about it and as always gracious but do you remember the look he gives Lockhart in CoS when he proclaimed he had the countercurse that could have spared Mrs. Norris? He kind of rolled his eyes in amusement looking over the rims of his glasses? I think that is what he thought of his funeral.

I think that Albus would have wanted everyone interacting with one another telling their favorite 'Do you remember when Dumbledore did...' or 'Do you remember when Albus said...' type of story. I think if he knew he was going to die and could have everything planned, Molly would know exactly what types of sweets to serve for dessert and there would be Madam Rosmertas famous oak mead as a nightcap. I think he would have preserved a message in a bottle of some sorts as guidence for Harry and the trio, possibly encouraging Hermione to use her knowledge to develop spells that could help Harry. I think he would have also left a message personally for the next head of the order detailing why he trusted Severus Snape and that he should continue to be trusted.-wishful thinking.

I see Dobby paying his tribute by prancing around in every pair of socks he owns and also building a shrine of socks somewhere on the Hogwarts grounds.

Seeing as it would be at the Headquarters for the Order, I don't see any ministry offical being allowed to enter. Dumbledore would reserve his funeral for those he considered friends. Seeing as ministry officials already attended a public service held on the grounds, this one would be by invitation only.

Don't forget to PM Clara directly with your poems, short stories and monologues about Dumbledore so that she can take a look at them...
~nevillesgirl

well firstly...
thanks for the lovely comments guys!! sorry as i much as i love what you guys say i am tired and am trying to keep my posts sort-ish... but still complimets are welcome and very much appriciated!

well... thank you. and well erm i was thinking of continuing it in secret and then pm-ing it to you when it's done... is that ok?? i mean i posted first bit to see if people liked it or not!

what do you think Dumbledore thought of his funeral? If he could have planned his own funeral who would he have chosen as the speaker? Who would he have invited ( or not)? Describe the setting he would have liked to have.
hmmmm well i haven't really looked at other people's posts because i want this to come out as i feel.... not what i have read.
well i think he would have prefered a simple funeral but knowing that he was headmaster of an entire school... he wouldn't be smart enough to realise that that was not really possible. however i think knowing this he would still want people to grieve and mourn... in a simple way. not exordinary and elegant. i always thought that if he could see he's funeral he would say (ghost form of course) "Stop fussing and tuck into some food!" it just seems like Dumbledore to do that. i think he would want Harry there .... Hagrid and McGongall for sure. i think he would except the fact that others (even if it was the whole school) would attend too. Dumbledore was wise enought to understand that he was well known and thought of by many and that impression would have left it's mark.

Oh. . .a question. . .
what do you think Dumbledore thought of his funeral? If he could have planned his own funeral who would he have chosen as the speaker? Who would he have invited ( or not)? Describe the setting he would have liked to have.
I hard question
Well I agree with the others who said that he would have been disapointed with people crying after all one of his most famous quotes is "I will only truly left Hogwarts when none here are loyal to me." I don't think any one is about to give up their loyaltiy to Dumbledore not with a war approching so Dumbledore's always going to be around in spirt, in memory. No-one can take that away (well aprt from oblivate. . .) I think he would have wanted his funeral to be as small as possbile with everyone he ever trusted attending (not Snape as he is on the run ) I think he would have wanted Hagrid to say a few words because Dumbledore did after all trust Hagrid with his life. He may have wanted soft calm chamber music playing as the cermny took place in the grounds of Hogwarts. Later on in the funeral I think he may have wanted Harry to address everyone at the funeral to tell them of Voldamort's horcuxes so everyone on the side of good can help making it harder for Voldamort and then it certainly would mean Dumbledore would not have died in vain if you like. A war is coming an there is no deying that An ulimate clash between good and evil and each side needs as much help as it can possbile get. . .There is no dobut that Dumbledore wants Voldamort defeated and to me he seems like Merlin, Dumbledore left the fate of the Wizarding World in the hands of the opele he trusted most like Merlin is said to have left Camolt for King Authur to handle sure enough mistakes were made but after all in is only human to make mistakes, I see wizards and witches as humans with powers to what is nesscary to destory evil because as I have heard 'Evil is a river running through time' to that saying I add 'And we must not let that river swell into an ocean.' So therefore we fight. And I think an united power of good is what Dumbledore would have wanted because Harry can not fight alone and that is where freinds come in exceedingly good use.

Phew that was longer then I thought it would be

What do you think Dumbledore thought of his funeral? If he could have planned his own funeral who would he have chosen as the speaker? Who would he have invited ( or not)? Describe the setting he would have liked to have.

I think Dumbledore would have liked a celabration of his life rather than a mourning of his passing. Dumbledore loved life but did not fear death. When Harry asked Dumbledore if his partner would die after the Sorcerer's Stone was destroyed, and wasn't he afraid of dying, Dumbledore responded by saying the following.



So, to answer the question, I think Dumbledore would have been a little disappointed with the funeral. He would have wanted as many people there as possible and for them to share enjoy their memories of him. While he always enjoyed chamber music, he would welcomed anything uplifting.

Ok right i thought i would ask this quetion.

Do you think Dumbledore is quite wealthy?

Personally i think he is quite rich. I don't no if you have seen but the castle in the backgrond of the U.K addition of HPDH. There is a castle that is surrounded by white mist. That i think connects to Dumbledore. And as it is a castle that could mean he owns it and that. Thought the castle could be Hogwarts and i could be totally wrong. But i generally think he has some secret riches left in store. That Harry might get in his will if there is one. I think his family might have been very rich and left him a tidy sum. I mean how did Dumbledore get all thosse diefferent objects he must have had to pay for some of them. Surely. What do you think??

Do you think Dumbledore is quite wealthy?
cool question Dan.
i think as a child he would have been quite well off. not poor not exceedingly rich.
as an headmaster i am guessing the pay would have been quite a lot. he would not have owned Hogwarts but as a headmaster he would have had a load of money. i think he might have put a lot of money back into the school because i think that would be like him. i think he
must have hidden riches.... maybe that vault was his.... erm the front cover of the cover ... then again it's filled with snake type decorations.

Yeah! Another question

Do you think Dumbledore is quite wealthy?
Firstly, Dan your answer to your own question:

Now this Dan is quite a very good point as we all know Albus means white in Latin therefore your point of the white mist surrounding the castle being linked to Dumbledore in a way is a very good point, well done

Well I did think that the castle was indeed Hogwarts. However I see your point of thinking that it could be a different castle as in does look strange and somewhat different to images of Hogwarts on other book covers but then again everything is changing in the Wizarding World.
Now my own answer to this question is:
I do believable that Dumbledore was quite wealthy, like Jade said:

Now this I do agree as I know that the pay of a headmaster in this world is not exactly poor but the pay of a headmaster would depend on the school to. Now as Hogwarts is a well-known school I can imagine that that would reflect the pay of the headmaster and of course because Dumbledore was like..well…the best headmaster that should up his pay to. Now I thought comes to mind, I personally think (and I think many of you would agree) that Dumbledore would not care for money but just care enough in order to get the necessary items he would need in his life. I also agree with what Jade said:

Dumbledore most defiantly is a caring wizard and he is most defiantly not a selfish wizard consumed with greed therefore I can defiantly see Dumbledore giving much of his money away to fund the school or even the buy items of use for the order of phoniex perhaps, I certainly can not see Dumbledore keeping all his wealth for himself and I know we would all think that Well I hope we all do
Good question Dan

Glad you both agree. See my point about the castle can go two ways i can be tottally wrong and right off in the other direction or i could be right. I quess that Dumbledores background will be deleved into in the last book. Jade you made an intresting point about the vault. Though the snake decorations that would tie into the conversation about Dumbledore being a parslemouth of some kind. Which i hae finally come to ocnclude must be a fairly strong point. As i said i think Dumbledore has riches and secrets unkown. Which seeems slightly obvious. I think Harrry is about to discover it.

"By all means continue destroying my possessions," said Dumbledore serenely. "I daresay I have too many." OOTP pg 825

We are all familiar with this quote and it doesn't really mean that Dumbledore was quite wealthy. It may just mean that he doens't put a high value on material things. It could also meant that he is not worried about replacing them because he has the finances to do so.

Another way to look at this question is in the terms of less tangible things. I believe that Dumbledore is extremely wealthy in the knowledge he has attained, in the friends he has made, and in the respect he has from the Wizarding World.
Often times it is not money that makes a person rich, but the other things in life that fulfills us and brings us joy.

Excellent question!
~nevillesgirl

Do you think Dumbledore is quite wealthy?

I agree with what you guys said. I think that he, not unlike Harry, inherited a good amount of money from his parents. I think that he probably wouldn't put such value in material things, like Nevillesgirl said, and that he gave much of it back into the community and into Hogwarts.



Excellently said, Nevillesgirl. Took the words right outta my mouth

cool to see you like my ideas sister.

Dan

yeah good point yourself Dan!

nevillesgirl

aww so sweet and so true. i too see this and believe that he was rich in different ways. life isn't just money money money... there are other things of great value that a person can obtaine....
i think Dumbledore would not have really valued money... it would be on the bottom of his list.

We agree that Dumbledore would not place a great deal of value on money, but he must have had some. He had hundreds of weird trinkets in his office. Judging by Harry's perception of McGonagall, even she did not know what they all were. (I am referring to the thing in OotP that made the smoke shaped like snakes.) Of course, Dumbledore was very old. He may have gathered those objects over 100 years. I wouldn' be surprised if he invented a few of them himself, either.

well I think he is rich becuase harry in one of the books (I think the first one ) saw some trinkets in a shop and the description he made matches the one he made about dumbledores trinkets. and theres the fact that harry destroyed them beyond reparo so he had to buy them twice and they seem very expensive to me so.... and there the fact of the pensive I mean you can't find those anywhere he must have had to pay a load for that.

Harry broke many of Dumbledore's belongings, but who is to say that Dumbledore did not fix them? When Harry comes back to Dumbledore's office, there is not mention of the objects. Without anything being written about them being fixed or staying broken, we are left to assume what happened. For my part, I think Dumbledore fixed most, if not all, the objects that Harry smashed. If they were broke by magic, maybe I would think otherwise. But I think that a 15 year old throwing them around would hardly leave permanent damage.

And while your thinking about whether or not Dumbledore is wealthy (I think his family was) what about, what does Dumbledore do for fun? Other than nine pin bowling. At some point he must have been a teenager. And for some reason, I just get the feeling he was into what we now refer to as extreme sports. I can see him racing his broom, or trying to ride a hippogriff.

I'm sure when your age surpasses triple digits, you slow down a little, but he did, after all, jump into the ocean and swim out to the cave in HBP. (Hmmm, more water imagery. Another hint at his Slytherin heritage?) While I wouldn't mind meeting him now, he must have been something in his prime.

I think a younger Dumbledore was obsessed with learning. I see him reading books for fun. I envision him inventing spells. I also bet that he really enjoys music. Since he hums a lot, I bet he knows a voluminous number of songs.

I would like to hear him sing.

as i have said before i believe that the pay for a Hedmaster would be quite well off and Dumbledore probably put money into the school. i also, in addition to earlier thoughts, think that he aqquired lots of his trinkets from helping others in his life. but... After the Burial's thought...
i agree with this... it is a good idea.
i think he had some value on money but he believed there were more important things in life. However i think he knew that money got you places, litterally i guess. and it was needed to live... but still i think if he had to chose he wouln't chose money he'd chose friends or his students or something.

EliasOsiris

hmm good question. i can just see him riding those Hippogriffs now... racing people on his broom...

hmm not many over 150 year old wizards would do that i think...

After the Burial

hmm yes... books i think were Dumbledore's way of having fun.

okay so i think that he was into his studies mainly and he'd enjoy a good book. but i can see him having a wild time... he has the kind of nature now...he's so "easy-going" sometimes. well erm.. i guess i think he was more devoted to his studies but went wild occasionly and raced and well i am sure he was into music...

ok... quick catch-up, im so busy, Ill try and catch up properly another time...

Don't forget to PM Clara directly with your poems, short stories and monologues about Dumbledore so that she can take a look at them...
Hehe thanks nevillesgirl...

well... thank you. and well erm i was thinking of continuing it in secret and then pm-ing it to you when it's done... is that ok??
Yep! thats great! I look forward to it very very much!!!

About the castle...sorry if you've already said this, but-
I always think of Dumbledore as a force, as a prescence that will always stay at hogwarts. It doesnt seem right for him to be away from it, and a white mist, with its ethereal qualities, its gentleness, and its hidden power...Surounding Hogwarts when he's gone? even if it doesnt come to pass, I'd like to believe that was true, that he's still...everywhere.

Was Dumbledore wealthy?
Whilst I believe that he was quite well off, and he never really struggled for money, What nevillesgirl said was perfect-


And that is so true, especially for somebody like Dumbledore. If money is what makes you happy and you have lots of money thenyou are truely rich, but usually it is the people and places you love.
Now...Knowledge is yet another kind of richness. Yes, Dumbledore is rich in knowledge, and because of the type of person he is he is safe with that knowledge. But, sometimes knowledge is curse. I will not go as far as to say ignorance is bliss, but Knowledge doesnt always make you happy....especially knowledge of the things that can hurt you.

About the things in his office... I like to think he fixed them and didnt just replace them. Im guessing that most of them had quite alot of sentimental value, and more than a bit of history behind them. I also like the idea that he invented some of them. I would think the more peculiar things, the things that looked like they had no use, so you would search for ages trying to find their use, and in the end they would be a sherbet lemon making machine or something as equally... usefull.

What did he do for fun? When he was younger... I think he tried to make frineds with giants, maybe he hiked with a friend to where they lived. I guess he must have also tried to tame a dragon once or twice, maybe succeded...maybe not. And he was a lover of muggle things, why would he not indulge in a bit of bugie-jumping and freefalling once in a while? Though im guessing this was probably back when he was in double digits...

Last thing... Dumbledore wanting knowledge. I can see it when he was younger, being very curious and thirsty for knowledge, but in is later years, i see him differently. Although he still appreciated knowledge and its power, he was more...mellow in his quest. When we look at the most powerful death eaters, Snape, Bellatrix, and then Voldemort, we see that what drove them was a quest for knowledge and power (though bella is arguable, and snape...whether he is or not.), I think Dumbledore would see the line between interest and obsession. He would also see his own personal scars that knowledge had given him. Although it would give him an advantage on the battlefield, it would haunt him off of it.

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Keep up with the brilliant work for the Dumbledore site, your all doing great, and you can contribute as mouch or as little( ) as you want!!!

Clara}~

EDIT:Hi Griff_90! I did make a nte about the questions you answered on page one, but i guess you must have missed it. If you decide to come back (as most decide not to) we have some great topics going on, and your input would
be great!

Yey, this fan-club is great

1.What are your favourite characteristics or Albus?, Why do you like him?

He is so down-to-eart, and protecting. Despite his great power he chose to stay as the principal at Hogwarts, with the people he cares for. And the fact that he alway keeps his feelings under control amazes me. I would love hom to be my principal, I would feel so safe, and I would know that the right decitions would always be made. I admire his ability to trust people too, though it might not always be safe...

2.Dumbledore's future, i know this is a hard one, because it i such a big topic, and it is taking place in loads of forums, but if we keep it strictly to him...
What will Dumbledores place be in Deathly Hallows?

I think that the fact that DD is dead will make people always keep him in mind. He lives in the walls of Hogwarts and in the hearts and minds of all his friends. A mighty wizard like him can not just disappear. We are all going to miss him
I do not think he will appear again, though he could come back as a ghost?!

3.Albus and Aberforth, they are brothers, but what is the relationship like between the two

I kind of hope they had a close relationship, so that Harry can go to Aberforth to get some answers. Harry mentions that there were so many things he did not get to ask DD (during his burial), and those questions are the ones I hope Aberforth has the answers to.

I haven't been here in a while! I missed you all!

Do you think DD is wealthy?

I like the idea that he was rich in knowledge, respect and love. That suits DD. But i also don't think he was poor. He always had such nice things. And he always had nice robes and dress robes, so he had to have some money. I also like the idea that he gave a lot of his money to the school. I could see him putting money in the school fund that Tom Riddle used when he came to Hogwarts.


What did DD do for fun?

I see him as the quiet sort, so he might have just studied a lot. I don't really see him playing sports either. I can see him playing games that involves you thinking, like wizards chess or something. And I don't know why, but I see him as a ladies man. I mean who wouldn't love the strong, smart, gentle type of man.

I dont think Dumbledore did get paid, to be honest, he doesnt take orders from anyone, so i cant imagine him wanting to be in there debt or so to speak. It would seem abit humiliating if Dumbledore was getting paid by fudge or scrimgouer
Also i think dumbledore would have played Wizards chess for fun, because it does require alot of thought.
I cant see Dumbledore as a ladies man, because he seems very dedicated to the school. I think Dumbledore would try and see the love in everyone. So that could be ladies or anything else along the way. Hes very clever and sees beauty in the great things, so i cant see him just looking for love in the ladies of the world. I can imagine him being bi actually. Please people dont hate on me. Just the way i see him.

First of hi to all new comers if you are i get confused. Oh i just realised. megan_de_lioncourt. You live in the samer area as me. Bimingham england.

Ok back on topic.

Clara.



If anyone else said this well done to them to. But Clara that statement was abousoltley Genius i hear you there I really think thats great. It's sprt of like Star wars sorry for thosse people who haven't watched Star wars. But Obi Wan Kenobi was a blue like force even after Death. He stayed benid to still guard and mentor Luke after death. So the same could happen to Dumbledore he could help Harry in that way. Whos to say thats not possible?? I mean J.k said Dumbledore was dead but was involed in book 7 so maybe this how that happens!

You know, this may seem random but I was just thinking along those lines of how Dumbledore would be involved in Book 7. I mean, I don't think Dumbledore would come back as a ghost or apparition seeing as he didn't fear death and considered it the next great adventure so however he is involved may not be tangible.
This being said I also don't think DD would want to be involved that much. I feel that he would want Harry to rely on his own confidence and not look to someone who has been protecting him his entire life. Does that make sense? Dumbledore has given Harry the tools to continue searching for the Horcruxes and any interference would show a lack of confidence on DD's part. I may just be rambling here but it was on my mind and I thought I would share it. What do you think?

*blush* thank you! And it is like Star wars, something that is different from a ghost, less visable, but more present, if a ghost is an imprint, what obi wan and DD (could be) are like the very spirit of a person, a lot stronger than a ghost, maybe even able to affect the 'real' world.
ok...to branch off from Star wars here... It seems that in every half decent series, when the wises one dies, hes either not dead, or around in spirit form, but every way is different, and all of the good ones are really original. Jk is such a creative writer, If DD were still around, which I strongly believe to be true, JK will surely come up with an imaginative and wonderful way for him to help Harry.

..And talking of Harry, This does make sense... but I think that Dumbledore will have to see the line between giving Harry a chance to prove himself and putting everybdy else at danger. I also think it might be a bit of a shock transition for harry, going from being guided bythe hand to being mostly alone. I understand that Dumbledore will want to let Harry look after himself, and discover himself more, but he is too wise, and he sees the bigger picture- I dont think he would want to put everybody at risk.
Any more thoughts?

Clara}~

I dont think DD protected him his entire life. Harry has done alot on his own. I would say DD more guided Harry. The only protection that has been in place the whole of Harrys life was what ever protection was placed around the Dersleys when Harry was left with them. I think the only other time DD really protected Harry was in OotP when he stood between Harry and LV. In SS he guided Harry but, Harry faced LV in the end. In CoS, Harry did not confide in DD when he was hearing voices or when Tom had let him view his memories, Harry went into the chamber and faced Tom Riddle and the basilsk, and so on and so forth. DD has always guided Harry but more often than not, Harry choose his own path, despite all the people who tried to caution him. I think DD protected him by leaving him with the Dersleys he could have grown up in the wizarding world and bacame the next Dark Lord...but because he was humbeled by the muggles who suppressed him he was never inticed by the power he posessed. I think I am beging to babble...Ill get back on track, I think DD will be involved as much as he can be, I also think Harry has already learned to rely on himself.

I've noticed that thing about the wise person. Because they always sort of leave an inprint on the good guy. It is so strange because the wise person always dies in films and books but they leave themselves in some way or form to guide the hero/ heroine. DD is no exception. I mean look at Gandalf. He came back because he died before his time. Everyone else needed his help so he came back. But maybe as we know DD is defiently dead. But maybe DD had done his job but now can help Harry in a very small way. Harry know has to burden this task. That DD knows he is now capable of completeing if he beleives in himself.... Sort of thing.

Well I don't know how DD helped Harry by dieing and I don't see how that helped Harry believe in his self?!?

Yeah, I think that in Dumbledore's death, Harry will be more motivated to complete the task at hand.



This is well said. I think Dumbledore only made one mistake in protection of Harry, that being the fact that he didn't tell Harry about the prophecy earlier. I think Dumbledore guided Harry in finding the Philosopher's Stone (yes, I think Dumbledore knew what Harry, Ron, and Hermione were doing pretty much their entire first year), he didn't really guide Harry into the Chamber of Secrets, as such, but that doesn't mean he didn't help at all. His talks with Harry definitely help. He definitely helped Harry and Hermione in Prisoner of Azkaban, hinting to them to use the time turner. He guided Harry throughout his entire fourth year, what with the TriWizard Tournament and all. Fifth year, he couldn't because of the connection with Voldemort and Harry. And sixth year, they pretty much spent all year together so that Dumbledore could fill Harry in on the Horcruxes and everything.

That being said, I still sort of agree with what you said Nevillesgirl.



I think Dumbledore wants Harry to feel confident and prepared. I think he wants Harry to learn not to be forced to rely on other people, rather be ready for what is coming next. And apart from Ron and Hermione, I think he's pretty much going to be going on the actual quest by himself.

Wow I haven't posted in a long time! Lots has gone on...

I dont think DD protected him his entire life. Harry has done alot on his own. I would say DD more guided Harry.

I agree 100%!!! DD knew that harry had to make his own decisions and his own mistakes to truly learn. We can't ever truly learn something by just having someone tell it to us. I think DD also knew that he wouldn't be around forever, so harry had to learn to rely on himself rather than someone who wasn't always going to be there. DD new what was going on 99.9% of the time and was prepared to step in and help when harry truly needed it and was ready to step in and correct him, but DD only did it if he needed to.

If you stop for a moment and think of all the ways that Dumbledore guided and helped Harry, you can't help but be impressed at how masterful his dealings with Harry were, especially when Harry was young. He always gave just enough help to make the job possible but never so much that the job was done for him. Navigating those waters in preparing Harry could not have been easy. I grant him his one mistake of caring too much.

He didnt die to help Harry, he died in spite of Harry, like he didnt die to save the world, he died despite the fact that it had to be done...if that makes sense. I mean, he didnt mean to go there and die, he knew that he could *probably* help Harry more if he was alive..so what i really meant was he didnt die, to help harry, but he will continue helping Harry despite the fact that he is dead.
Phew, got there eventually, long weekend, sorry.


Yes, he has done it very well, I've been debating on whether it was purposeful with Harry or not, he seems to be like that with everybody. He helps them, even and especially when they dont think they need it, but he never makes them feel that he is doing the'job' for them, and in the end they are the ones that do it...
It could be unique to Harry, the way that he has shapped and moulded Harry, slowly helping him to grow and succeed in what he does, and survive.
but sometimes I really think that he does it without meaning to, he helps but he doesnt realise how much, or little he is helping... I always think that he is so aware of what is happening around him...but i think he may sometimes be unaware of what he does.

earlier I was talking about the way that DD has been shaping Harry. Sometimes, just sometimes, I can begin to see some scary similarities between the way that DD is shaping harry and the way that Voldemort would, If Harry was on his side.

Just something i've noticed...I wont elaborate now, i dont have time... but just something to think about...

and remember, keep your things for the site coming in. What we've got so far is frankly amazing..
再见!
Clara}~

If I understand your meaning correctly, I fully agree with you about Dumbledore's death, Clara. Dumbledore knew that finding the horcruxes would be a great burden. He knew he could help Harry. In spite of this, he chose to 'save' Draco and die. In the end, Dumbledore also knew that he would be able to help Harry even if he died.

After being nearly killed by the last horcrux, I think Dumbledore would have prepared for the possibility that this new one might get the job done. That would certainly include helping Harry in some way.

I also think that Dumbledore had the confidence in Harry to know that even though he wasn't going to be around, if in fact Draco (Snape actually) *sniff* got the nerve up to kill him, that Harry has been taught enough and learned enough from the privete lessons to be alright and be able to finish the task.
Draco was another story. Dumbledore must have known that Draco would chicken out and he was prepared to try and restore him to the side of good. DD told Draco that no harm has been done yet and that he could help him. So Dumbledore dies choosing to 'save' Draco and sacrifice himself in the process. This is what seperates a good Headmaster from a great one...his ability to care for and feel compassion deeply for his students and to do whatever it takes to ensure their safety. Somehow I don't see a Headmaster like Phineas Black doing something like that.

I am so excited to see our soon to be Dumbledore webpage and read what you all have written. Has anyone done a poem yet?

~nevillesgirl

I so agree with you Nevillesgirl. DD was the greatest headmaster ever. I believe no wizard ever (in the whole world of magic) did his job like Dumbledore, he was the one and the only. --> The BEST!

I just can not stop wondering if saving Draco was worth dying (If that was the purpose)?! I mean, what if Draco will not be spared after all??

I dont think he was just saving Draco. True, it was a big reason, and i think if Draco hadn't been there things would have gone very differently, but i dont think thats just it.
yes he was kind, compasionate and trusting, he saw the good in everybody, and believed that people deserved a second chance. He trusted the humanity in people, even is he didnt trust them completely, and he was always there when people needed him, even if they didnt know it.
However, he was practical, and although trust sometimes clouded his vision, he was rational and logical. lets hypothosise here... he could die and save Draco, but there's a good chance that many other people would die. I understand that It would be very difficult for Dumbledore, near impossible, to decide who should die, but i dont see him sacrificing everybody else for the sake of one person. It would be even harder for him when he saw Draco, knowing that if he survived he would be condemning a child, and it would most probably break his heart, but i dont think he could jeopardise every other life...I just think he's too wise for that.
Thisis why i think that there was more than one reason for dying that night. I don't know what it is, and frankly I dont want to know until i read the book, but I think we can firmly say that there was more than the life of one boy at stake.

The way that Dumbledore has influenced and shaped Harry...once again i find myself short of time...so I will try to be swift.
There are two parts to this. One, is the outcome, the way that Dumbledore or Voldemort would want Harry to turn out.
The other is the method that they would use to get him there.
before i steam ahead...When i talk about the way Voldemort would shape Harry, I mean if Harry was on his side. I know that Voldemort wouldnt be a particularly good asset to Voldemort, but he would be less likely to kill voldemort if he was serving him..in theory.
So, the way that Harry turns out. Dumbledore knows that Harry is the one who must kill Voldemort. He wants harry to be powerful, resourcefull and do whatever is necerssary.
Voldemort would want Harry to be these three things too.
The difference here is that Dumbledore would want Harry to be an equal, to question when it is necessary, and to fight for the 'greater good'. Voldemort would want Harry to obey, as DD would, but all of the time, not only when he really has to. He would want Harry to be a servant, and he would want to fight for a single person.
despite the 'good' and 'bad' bits- fighting for one person or everybody etc, the basic characteristics are the same.

But thats not the scary bit. DD has been moulding Harry by 'letting' him get into situations that would help him in the future, they may cause him some emotional and physical pain, but it was letting Harry train and hone his skills. Voldermort would do the same thing, albeit with more rigidity.
Dumbledore would treat Harry as more than a normal student, even if it wasnt evident. He told Harry things he would never tell another child, given him rescources not available to any other child, teach him things that he wasnt expected or even allowed to know.
Voldemort would do exactly the same thing. Once again, he may do it more openly, but he would treat Harry as a personal student, giving him the benefit of Voldemort's experience, knowledge and power, as DD would.
Dumbledore told harry many things, yet hid the prophecy from him. He told him of Horcruxes and showed him memories, and told him some of his deepest secrets.
Voldemort would so the same thing, yet again. He would tell him things that would help Harry become stronger, and hide the prophecy from him. Yes, for different reasons... He would probably also tell Harry things that he hid from others, which leads me on to my final point...
Gaining Harry's trust. DD needed Harry to trust him because Harry would be put into situations that he would question, situations where DD was getting hurt, or dying, or others were in danger. Voldemort would need Harry to trust him because he would be putting Harry into situations that he would question...where other people were in danger or dying...
they would both need harry to carry out there commands to the word, they would both need harry to be emotionally close to them, so that he would never turn from them.
Lastly, they would both need Harry to believe in their cause with every bone in his body, hating the other 'side', and having all the justification he needed for killing them.

And the funny thing is, it worked, for DD. Harry believes, he trusts, he is fast becoming strong and powerful, knowledgeable, and even experienced in what he does.
Here comes the scary bit. Imagine if Voldemort hadnt of tried to kill Harry when he was a baby. Imagine instead if he had taken him with him, after killing his parents, and taught him as he wished.
Just imagine;if Voldemort had gotten there first.

Clara}~

ps nevillesgirl, 7:46 pm here, have a nice day!

[quote name='clara morgue' date='Apr 22 2007, 10:44 AM' post='375411']
earlier I was talking about the way that DD has been shaping Harry. Sometimes, just sometimes, I can begin to see some scary similarities between the way that DD is shaping harry and the way that Voldemort would, If Harry was on his side.

Just something i've noticed...I wont elaborate now, i dont have time... but just something to think about...
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~Oh, don't forget to elaborate on this because I have been thinking about it ever since you posted it.

[quote name='clara morgue' date='Apr 24 2007, 08:09 AM' post='377136'
Opps got to have dinner will edit in a minute
Clara}~
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~Dinner? My gosh I just got to work...my day is just starting