eagleanimagous
Jan 17 2007, 02:27 AM
I was rereading the HP series and i noticed something odd. Squibs as we know are the opposite of muggle-borns and have no magical powers. Yet the two Squibs we know seem to have a certain relationship with their cats, in fact it seems they can communicate with their cats. First Argus Filch: he is the caretaker of Hogwarts and patrols the corridors hoping to get kids in trouble. He is revealed to be a Squib in CoS and it seems that he can communicate with his cat Mrs. Norris. I found this odd not in CoS but in OotP when Arabella Figg, Harry's Squib neighbor says "...luckily I'd stationed Mr. Tibbles under a car just in case, and Mr. Tibbles came and warned me..." this seemed an odd thing to say until i remembered that when Harry heard the loud crack meaning someone had Disapparated a cat ran out from under the car. I doubt that this is a coincidence. It seems that Squibs although unable to use magic have the ability of talking to cats! I think somehow this will come into play in book 7 because JKR doesn't throw things like this in if it didn't have anything to do with the other books.
Tell me what you think. (Sorry if this is in another thread i did check)
After the Burial
Jan 17 2007, 02:46 AM
I have heard something similar to this, but it was discussing cats in general. We should keep in mind that this is the magical world. Maybe there is nothing magical about the Squibs. Rather, there could be something magical about cats. They could be magical enough to understand communication with Squibs (who may have trace magic about them).
I like the idea that the Squibs have more than meets the eye, but I do not believe we can immediately conclude that they do.
felix_felicis_05
Jan 17 2007, 02:53 AM
that's interesting, i had never noticed that i think that it's maybe a clue or someting, or maybe just a coincidence
I think that squibs will be important in the deathly hallows, maybe their communication with cats is important too.
fresh-pickled toad
Jan 17 2007, 03:09 AM
That is very interesting that they both are squibs and that they both seem to be very fond of cats. I don't think it will have a major major role but it could have something to do with hpdh. like maybe the cats could be spying on the deatheaters or something like that. maybe that's why bellatrix was so jumpy in the begining of spinners end. Because if cats could be spys then so could foxes i guess
BeLLe
Jan 18 2007, 09:22 AM
Foxes are part of the canine family though...more closely related to the dog...but I do agree that the idea that cats have a bigger role to play in HPDH is an interesting concept.
BeLLe
Hilly
Jan 19 2007, 03:06 AM
First of all, I don't think that squibs actaully have the power to talk to cats. Maybe they have some kind of special connection with cats, but talking? That seems like too magical a trait.
Possibly this is just a coincidence? I don't think that the squibs can talk to cats, nor have any kind of magical connection with cats. Cats are supposedly a magical creatures right? Or have some kind of aura about them or something like that? Perhaps cats are just drawn to squibs...
surfcaly
Jan 19 2007, 08:49 PM
I believe that the cats are the magical ones. On top of these two cats that are owned by squips you have the cat that is owned by Hermione. In PoA Serius says that she is a very intelligent cat. I think that these are all special cats who have an abnormally large inteligence, and ability to understand humans.
Packers
Jan 20 2007, 02:59 PM
this is a very intersting topic, mabie in the seventh book we will find out why cats not dogs are allowed in hogwarts
El Barto
Jan 20 2007, 09:24 PM
Please, watch the one-liners
I was wondering this too, and for sometime I couldn't pinpoint why it was so strange that squibs have a certain relationship towards cats. But I went back and through the books and I came to the conclusion that it may be a similar relationship that wizards/witches have towards owls. They can tell an owl to take a note to someone, or that they'll be away so they can find them at the place they're heading towards. Cats for squibs could act the same.
chrisisgameboy92
Jan 23 2007, 03:02 AM
well maybe since they cant really use a wand or anything but still have inherited some magic from their parents can still talk to cats.
ThePrincess
Jan 23 2007, 06:08 AM
im actually seriousely liking this idea that squibs can communicate with cats.. i dont knw whee you people come up with your ideas.. lol.. or how you can see these small little things.... i think this will have an important role, i belive jo intended her stories to be read betweeen the lines
ThePrincess
mayfair
Jan 23 2007, 08:49 AM
Are we sure that Mrs. Norris and Mr. Tibbles are cats? I mean it's possible that they are not cats but kneazles or part-kneazles. That would make them magical creatures and give them some abilities that normal cats may not have. We have seen Harry "communicate" with Hedwig. There's no telepathy, but they seem to understand each other well enough. Perhaps when two beings are in close contact with each other for a relatively long time, they are able to relate to the other on a more empathic level and gradually begin to understand each others mannerisms. For Filch, Mrs. Norris remains his only companion, so naturally he would relate to her all the time. Ditto for Mrs. Figg who only has her cats for company. It's not uncommon for many people to share a very close bonds with their animal companions, perhaps loneliness is what ensures such a kin of bond
Moon(I luv you Luna)
Jan 24 2007, 03:14 AM
That's a cool idea. Maybe Squibs and cats will be important. I don't exactly see how, but maybe, you never really know in the world of magic and Harry Potter.
So really, we can't rule out this possibility incase it's proved wrong by JKR.
cnickelson
Feb 16 2007, 10:42 PM
I believe that JKR has said that cats are of some significance, but I do not remember the context that she said that in. I am inclined to believe that cats just fall into that realm of "magical animals" like the ones at the magical menagerie in Diagon Alley. But mostly I am referring to owls and cats. Cats have played a fairly large role in the series, especially in POA with Crookshankes going after pettegrew all the time. They have a certain sense about them. I am not sure what their connection with squibs is, perhaps squibs understand their magical potential and use them to their full advantage, while muggles just think of them as pets. I mean, maybe it is pretty well known in the magical world that cats are "special" or somewhat magically inclined, and so a squib who is immersed in that world would know about that, and know how to use them.
But I do agree that things are not just "thrown in" to the books, and it could mean something, I have not a clue what, but good job picking it out.
Potter4president
Feb 16 2007, 11:14 PM
I have heard about this, as well, but in a conversation about whether or not Filch and Mrs. Figg are actually the same person (because of their love for cats, ability to somewhat communicate with cats, and they share the same innitials). I will not go into that, however, because that is not what this thread is about.
So, I think that what you bring up is very interesting. I doubt if they can entirely communicate with cats, but it is very possible that they somewhat can. I have wondered about this, too. They really do seem to have some sort of connection. If Mrs. Norris turns up on a scene of mischief, it is a matter of seconds before Filch arrives. I do remember JKR saying that we will find out more about the cats, but it will not be that they are animaguses. So, I think that does support this theory because we can rule out the possibility that they can communicate because of the fact that the cats are really people in cat form.
I think it is certainly possible. It is possible that the cats are part or all kneazle, but that is less likely because you have to have a liscense and that would be harder for a squib to get, I think. I think that the fact that they are squibs may not be the reason they can communicate with cats, but I definitely agree that there is some connection between them and their cats. I do not know what, though. I am sure there is something.
Great idea!
knockturn alley
Jun 9 2007, 12:10 AM
oh how i wish i could communicate with cats
but this is a very interesting concept that i haven't thought of before. there just isn't any coincedences like this in the books, and im sure there's got to be some conection. the idea that sqibbs can communicate with cats seems very logical.
Gryffindor's Heir
Jun 9 2007, 03:00 PM
This whole thing reminds me of black cats being witches's familiars!

But seriously, it's a good point.

JKR has said that (INTERESTING POINT HERE!

lol) Crookshanks is part Kneazle and that Mrs Figg earns a living by cross-breeding kneazles and cats. So maybe she is communicating with the kneazle part of them!
white_bumblebee
Jun 9 2007, 10:09 PM
i think its more likely that the cats are magical and so can therefore communicate with humans or squibs, then the squibs have powers to communicate with cats! like others have said, its likely they are not ordinary cats and possibly kneazles or part kneazles.
but well done on noticing the trend of squibs having cats, and that they can communicate, i never noticed it myself!
Harry103
Jun 11 2007, 03:15 AM
That is a very intersting idea i will check on it
asland
Jun 13 2007, 01:00 PM
well i know for a fact that ms.norris is simply a highly intelligent,yet normal cat <rowling said so herself>
but its possible that figgs cats are actualy kneazles or part kneazles <like crookshanks>
before you ask.kneazles are a cat like magical creature that are so similar to cats that they can breed with them <hence crookshanks existing>...they have an ability to know when ppl are bad and dont like bad ppl <hence crookshanks going after "scabbers" constantly in book 3>
so even though ms.norris is simply an intelligent cat there is a possiblity that <for example> mr.tibbles is more than that ~_^
but it is odd that squibs seem to all have cats <at least the ones we know of>
LauraLupin
Jun 14 2007, 12:06 PM
I like this idea! Well done!
I think traditionally cats are very in tune with the magical and otherworldly. Maybe like In ancient Egyptian mythology they have some link to the underworld?? OOh! I know its a bit off topic, but if that was the case maybe Crookshanks could help Sirius back somehow? She likes him alot. Anyway, Im not sure its a squib/cat think thats important so much as the cats themselves. I wish i could talk to my cat!!!
siriuslyinlove
Jun 21 2007, 02:18 AM
heya

this is a great idea, good one!!

i agree with mostyou guys that it's probabley the cats that are magically inclined, instead of the actual squib.if where right, thats probabley the reason that so many squibs have cats in the first place (well, the ones we know of). well, sorry that was pretty useless,

great ideas people, keep them comeing!!

xoxoxoxo

love sirius

xoxoxxoo P.S: lauralupin, i really like your idea that crookshanks could help sirius come back!!!!!!!! xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo
vballchik1413
Jun 21 2007, 02:29 AM
QUOTE(mayfair @ Jan 23 2007, 02:49 AM) [snapback]309244[/snapback]
Are we sure that Mrs. Norris and Mr. Tibbles are cats? I mean it's possible that they are not cats but kneazles or part-kneazles. That would make them magical creatures and give them some abilities that normal cats may not have. We have seen Harry "communicate" with Hedwig. There's no telepathy, but they seem to understand each other well enough. Perhaps when two beings are in close contact with each other for a relatively long time, they are able to relate to the other on a more empathic level and gradually begin to understand each others mannerisms. For Filch, Mrs. Norris remains his only companion, so naturally he would relate to her all the time. Ditto for Mrs. Figg who only has her cats for company. It's not uncommon for many people to share a very close bonds with their animal companions, perhaps loneliness is what ensures such a kin of bond
Wait a second... you're forgetting about Madam Pince, ( I think that's her name) the librarian.
But yeah, that's a really keen observation..
xForeverxLoyalxToxDumbledorex
Jun 21 2007, 06:16 PM
i think this is an excellent theory but it could just be readin between the lines a bit oo much
but i do think that there is something with cats and squibs even if there not linked to each other
after all crookshanks knew when peter pettigrew was the rat
and wasnt filch taking a quick spell course??!?!
isnt that how it was revelaed he was a squib
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