x--bullet-for-my-valentine--x
Jan 27 2007, 09:38 PM
Harry's had two girlfriends in the past... Cho and Ginny. Things didn't work out for him and Cho, and he 'nobly' broke up with Ginny, so will he find someone else when he's on the way to destroy Voldemort, or will he go back to Ginny when the deed's done?
Ginny Weasly-15
Jan 27 2007, 09:52 PM
EWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!
of course Harry wont get with anyone else!!!!!!!!!!!!
He really seems to loev Ginny with all his heart, and the reason he stupidly broke up with Ginny is becasue of Voldy anyways, so why would he get someone else before he destroys Voldy??????????????????????????????????
No no no, they WILL get back togeher, wheather its before or after Voldy dies.
song of the phoenix
Jan 27 2007, 09:59 PM
considering that the only reason that he broke up with ginny was that he doesn't want voldy to go after her to get to him, i highly doubt this...i mean really, how could he possibly do that when he didn't WANT to break up with her, he was just being his stupid noble self. so in answer, of course not. now, i do doubt that ginny will just let harry be all noble and go off with ron and hermione to find the horcruxes, so she is probly going to follow him...off topic sorry, but he will get back with ginny if he can.
Ginny Weasly-15
Jan 27 2007, 10:08 PM
Yes!!!!!!
My point exactly!
Stupid Harry was just being noble and trying to protect her, but she wouldnt let him have all the fun without her, and im sure that she wont tolerateit once we read DH because she might try to persuade him other wise at Bill and Fluers wedding...
Sorry, i know i got off topic, but ya
Madmoiselle Lilly
Jan 27 2007, 11:10 PM
To be completely honest, I don't see what all of you Harry/Ginny shippers out there see in the two of them. I'm not trying to cause any uneasiness. I'm just saying, I don't get it. I would much rather see him with Hermione - they would make the best couple of the series.
fany_monkey
Jan 27 2007, 11:30 PM
Madmoiselle Lilly nooo hermione is all wrong for harry! i mean i don't really really like ginny but she and harry belong together just like ron and hermione belong together because well they complete each other! they have everything the other lacks!
so i think harry and ginny will get back together
Potter4president
Jan 28 2007, 03:30 AM
I don't think Harry will get another girlfriend. I am not sure if he will get back with Ginny or not, but I would not expect him to get a new girlfriend. He really liked Ginny and he didn't want to break up with her. He did it to protect her and she understood. This isn't the same as if he broke up with her the way Ron and Lavender did. He did it to protect her. He didn't want to see her hurt. He knew Voldemort would know that he was close to her and didn't want her used again. So, no, I don't think Harry would get another girlfriend.
jiggery-pokery
Jan 28 2007, 06:17 AM
I think he will…
Remember that there’s a wedding coming up for Bill and Fleur. You can imagine since Fleur is part Veela, there ought to be a lot of gorgeous people along there too. Possibly Gabrielle? (which might be a bit disgusting since in book 7 she should be around 11 years old)
UnknownLocket
Jan 28 2007, 06:37 AM
I don't think that Harry will get another girlfriend (though I want him to). Why I think that? Not because he still likes Ginny (who I could really care less for) but because he really doesn't have time for one (unless it shall be Hermione or Luna, I'll think otherwise). I mean, who needs to carry along a burden when they are too busy trying to save the wizarding world. Also, he doesn't need all that boyfriend-girlfriend drama that comes with it (look at what hapened between him and cho, and we don't need another shallow ship such as H/G)
Keddie
Jan 28 2007, 07:54 AM
I highly doubt Harry would get another girlfriend.Harry has already been out with two girlies,and you could already see a kind of connection in both of those.Also,Harry only broke up with Ginny to 'protect' her.With Ginny's personality,it is unlikely she will be willing to give up Harry without a fight,so there may be a fair bit of arguments over this in DH.And,as for Harry and Hermione,that is obne of the worst HP relationships in my opinion.They have never shown any interest in one another,and nothing JK has written has reaslly hinted something serious is going on there.Now Ron,that's another story...
jac011
Feb 2 2007, 02:33 AM
harry wont get a girlfriend until he defeats voldemort. but he cant defeat voldemort because he has to go through snape first because snape is voldemorts right hand mand and hell do anything to protect voldemort and harry couldnt even attack snape in harry potter and the half blood prince.so i doubt harry will kill voldemort unless he learns some new dark curses like the one he used on malfoy.
HogwartsMarauder618
Feb 3 2007, 03:42 AM
Hey Guys!
I am also someone who would LOVE to see Hermione with Harry! It seems as though everything was building up to that, and then it was.....Ron with Hermione and Ginny with Harry. Hermione is just so intelligent, sensitive, and smart. Harry is bold, brave, and caring. I think they would work well together.
GreenGred
Feb 3 2007, 05:13 AM
Seeing as he "nobly" broke up with Ginny i doubt he will like anyone else. If he doesnt get back with Ginny(which I think he will) then he wont have another GF. I am pretty confident they will get back together. The more i read HBP i dont see it as a break up anymore, instead kinda of like a timeout while he goes and destroys the horcruxes and such.
phoenix_song
Feb 3 2007, 10:41 PM
With where everybosy is supposing Book 7 is going, I don't think Harry will have another girlfriend. I don't really think he's going to have time for something like that. He's going on this huge hunt for horcruxes, and for Voldemort to end this thing, and to have a girlfriend at his side would only make him more vulnerable, because he would want to protect her at all times. That's why he broke up with Ginny, is so that she wouldn't get hurt. He really cares about her, and he didnt want to break it off with her, but he had to. Maybe after his entire adventure is over, he'll possibly try to get Ginny back. Although, she may not wait that long. We don't know where or how the book will end, but... If Harry does have any kind of girlfriend in the last book, I think it will be Ginny again.
Silence Dogood
Feb 3 2007, 11:11 PM
I don't think he will have another girlfriend. However, I do think that there will be a girl that he is interested in. I don't think it should, or will be Ginny thanks to Albus...haha
fresh-pickled toad
Feb 3 2007, 11:46 PM
Ok, I don't think that harry will get back together with ginny it will really ruin the book I don't know why it just would. And as for Harry getting another girlfriend I don't think he will. maybe in the last chapter but that is if he lives. I really would like harry to get a girlfriend but not Ginny nor Hermione, someone different and fresh would be nice. But I think Harry would be too busy to even think of Having a girlfriend.
As long as it is not Ginny it is all good.
Steven
Feb 4 2007, 02:48 AM
I read somewhere that in book 7 that Harry and Hermione will definatley go on a date. Also so will Ron and Luna.... Creepy
classicalravenclawwriter
Feb 4 2007, 04:13 AM
I would chuck my book out of my window if Harry got another girl. I mean, he LOVES Ginny but he had to leave her because he wants her to be safe. If he went to get another girl to conquer Voldy with, that would be seriously annoying. I think that either A: Harry will die and Ginny will be left to mourn, B: Ginny will die and Harry will be left to mourn, or C. They will both live!

I think that Harry loves Ginny and always will, and he won't go and get another. Who are you thinking of besides Hermione, anyway?
Miss Minerva Mcgonagall
Feb 5 2007, 10:15 PM
Now I really don't think in the last book JK will have time to do either :
1. Create a new character just for Harry's romantic pleasure.
2. Create a bond between an existing character and Harry when she has so much more questions to answer, the destroying of Voldemort and of course the concentration on the main ships romantic progress - R/Hr.
The only other candidates of girls Harry is close to in the books is Hermione and Luna. JK has already told us it's not Harry and Hermione it's Ron and Hermione so we know that one won't happen. I really like Harry and Luna together but it seems if you read HBP closely, JK closes that one down too. So no he won't have anyone other than Ginny.
Although I don't have this delusion that Ginny will accompany the trio or won't accept Harry's decision. Nor will Harry go back on it because he 'loves' her. I don't believe Harry is in love with Ginny, just likes her alot. This ship wasn't very well developed in Jo's case, I get the impression she wanted to give the guy some happiness for once. If Harry and Ginny survive it I'm sure they'll be together in the end, but not before that. Maybe a few moments for the two of them here and their, even a kiss maybe...but they won't be together.
Lady_Kyla
Feb 6 2007, 12:23 PM
I don't believe that harry will have a new girlfriend. As hermione said, he has a problem with saving people (especially when it is not needed). What would be the point of having a new girlfriend once he had broke up with Ginny only because he is afraid that Voldy will hurt her.

???
And his feelings about her are too strong. He really loves her

(He had only liked Cho)
XxCeliaxX
Feb 6 2007, 05:43 PM
well if their all alive at the end, Its gotter be Harry and Ginny, and Ron and Hermione. I dont recon harry will have a diffenent girlfriend because he really loves ginny, annndd where would he meet another girl? hes not going back to hogwarts, hes going to look for the horcurxes, so if he lives i think he will get with ginny again, much to my dissapointment...
Dumbledore's Widow
Feb 6 2007, 07:38 PM
As an avid shipper for H/Hr it goes without saying that I would hope that Harry gets another girlfriend in the last book! I hope that it's Hermione! I do feel that H/Hr's relationship will evolve gradually. JKR will not have to spend
any time developing their romance since she has already written in so many H/Hr moments throughout her books. Besides, Harry and Hermione share a deep bond and have a true and lasting friendship. Good foundations for love.
For those of us who remember the television series,
The X-Files, the main characters Mulder and Scully (M/S) got together slowly - took them 7 years! But, they knew that they "belonged" to one another before then, and so did the audience. M/S were friends long before they knew they loved one another. IMO, Harry and Hermione are a lot like M/S. In book 7, they will come to realize that they love one another as more than just friends.
Of course, all of what I have said would be pointless if JKR kills off Harry. But, I don't believe that she will do that. I have a hunch that she will make it H/Hr in the end. And, right now, that is all we have - hunches, that is.

Another girlfriend for Harry? I certainly hope so!!!
zonkos_employee
Feb 24 2007, 05:56 PM
Why would JK give Harry another girlfriend in the 7th book? She put some of that writing in the 1st book about Ginny having a "crush" on him. Would she put that in just so they could go out for two weeks in the 6th book and that's it? Plus the Chamber of Secrets... Ginny was a big part in the book too. Harry and Ginny have got to get back together in the 7th book.
UnknownLocket
Feb 24 2007, 06:52 PM
I disagree. Harry does not have to get back with Ginny just because JKR wasted her time adding Ginny in the first book. Two weeks of them together was good enough, and any more than that would be unecesary and distract from the real plot of the books.
I agree with Dumbledore's Widow that if Harry should get another girlfriend it should be Hermione. For one thing, there have been clues building up to the two of them all along, and for another, they are both in the trio and included in the thick of the plot. She's smart, sensitive, and strong which is everything Harry needs in the search for horcruxes and a girlfriend. With her, he can balance the life of a hero with romance.
Horavlo
Feb 24 2007, 07:02 PM
He won't because he has splited up with Ginny because he was afraid about Ginny'r life if Voldemort realises that Ginny is something important for Harry,.
I think he stills loving Ginny and he hasn't time to be looking for a new girlfriend; he only wants to get all the horcruxes.
I beliebe that Ginny isn't also going to have more boyfriends because she is now worried about Harry's life.
UnknownLocket
Feb 24 2007, 07:15 PM
Oh course he won't be looking for girlfriends, but it doesn't neccessarily mean that he won't get one. Sometimes, things happen. Just like out of the blue, he began having such strong feelings for Ginny, maybe some time while searching for horcruxes, he will realize his true feelings for Hermione, the one girl who has always been by his side.
I don't think that Harry loves Ginny. Likes...sure, but loves....er...
And really, whose to say that Harry would survive or that his feelings would remain the same after the final battle. People change.
Dumbledore's Widow
Feb 25 2007, 01:04 AM
QUOTE(UnknownLocket @ Feb 24 2007, 02:15 PM) [snapback]332402[/snapback]
Oh course he won't be looking for girlfriends, but it doesn't neccessarily mean that he won't get one. Sometimes, things happen. Just like out of the blue, he began having such strong feelings for Ginny, maybe some time while searching for horcruxes, he will realize his true feelings for Hermione, the one girl who has always been by his side.
I don't think that Harry loves Ginny. Likes...sure, but loves....er...
And really, whose to say that Harry would survive or that his feelings would remain the same after the final battle. People change.
I agree with you
UnknownLocket, about Harry not being on the lookout for other girlfriends, but I think that he will end up with another girl in the last book - namely Hermione. Like you said, it
was out of the blue for Harry to get those strong feelings for Ginny, so why shouldn't he get strong feeling for Hermione in the final book? Makes plenty sense to me. After all, they will be working in close proximity, what with hunting for the Horcruxes. Besides, I have never thought that Harry is
in love with Ginny nor do I believe that Ron and Hermione are in love with one another. Harry cares for Ginny, much like a brother would for a sister and I think that Ron and Hermione see each other as only friends.
I also agree with you in that people do change. It's a fact of life.
classicalravenclawwriter
Feb 25 2007, 08:07 PM
Interesting idea, Harry and Hermione are best friends, and they have a really strong bond. Yet, I seriously do believe that Ron and Hermione will end up being paired off in Book Seven. They have had so many momments together, and even Harry is aware of the existance of akwardness. In Herbology, even at the Yule Ball in book 4, they have always seemed to like eachother. I know that Krum does exist, and everything, but I think that Hermione will end up going with Ron beacuse we haven't heard much about Krum lately. Also, I do believe that Harry loves Ginny. It's not like they have crushes, they're seventeen now! Ginny has loved Harry for eons, and I think that Harry has always loved Ginny but only recently realized it. In book, I believe, 5, he tries to follow Ginny to get a compartment. She goes to sit with Dean, though, and that seriously makes Harry angry.
I think that JKR has been building up to this the entire series, and because Harry and Hermione are amazing friends doesn't mean they will end up together. It's possible to have a really strong friend of the opposite gender and spend time with them, always by their side, without dating! I just don't see any evidence.
UnknownLocket
Feb 26 2007, 03:35 AM
There are many things in that post that you seem to be stating as fact, when really there is no canon to prove it.
1) Harry and Ginny do not love eachother. Just because they have reached a certain age does not qualify it as love.
2) Ginny has not loved Harry for eons. At least not in the
real love sense. Liked, crushed, adored, fancied, stalked, hero-worshipped, or obsessed is more like it. I like the last 3 best.
3) Harry does not love Ginny. Need I say more.... But really, he ignored her for five years, I wouldn't call that love. And when he did start to like her, it was too sudden to be anything but lust or sincere "likeness".
4) I wouldn't exactly say that Harry was angry because Ginny decided to sit with Dean on the train. He only followed her because Ron and Hermione weren't there (remember, they were prefects). If they were, he could care less where Ginny went. He was basically using her because he didn't want to be a "loser" and sit alone. That's what people do when they don't have any friends with them, they find the next best thing. But when their friends come back, they drop the others like extra weight (a useless burden that your glad to get rid of

).
5) JkR has not been building up this relationship the entire series, or at least not very well. The most build-up we get is from the roaring monster in his chest. (Where'd he come from anyways?

Just like that big black guy in the third movie. Popped up from nowhere.)
6) Harry and Hermione can still happen

, even though they are just friends, as you say. Who knows, Ron could die.
classicalravenclawwriter
Feb 26 2007, 11:28 PM
UnknownLocket, okay, fine!
Yes, I stated some things as fact, but really, I don't see where this illusion of "Harry really doesn't love Ginny" is comming from.
1. Well, I think that they are mature, they love eachother, and they are really close. I mean, Harry has known Ginny for eons, but he suppressed the feeling. We know how close Harry and Ginny are, even though Harry has to protect Ginny from Voldy. When Cho started dating again, did a dragon inside of him roar? Harry liked Cho, he didn't ever love her. He and Hermione are great friends, and they will never be more! It won't work; again, just because two people work in close proximity of the opposite gender doesn't mean that they are in love.
2. Ginny never stalked Harry, remember!?! She yelped and ran away, she was so shy! She isn't a stalker, by any means. And, yes, at the beginning, it was a crush for her. I think she went through a couple of boys, and she knew that she couldn't replace Harry in her heart.
3. I am of the belief, as Harry said he had never been happier in his life, that he DOES love Ginny! They were together, and their hearts beat as one. They talked, played quidittch, and everything else together. They felt sincere love. I mean, if your only limitation is time, you don't have to be around eachother for a certain amount of time. Hermione could only "love" Harry for a year max! No, their love is sister-brother!
4. He really felt annoyed, and he didn't feel annoyed when Hermione left this time, did he?!?! 
5. I feel like she has been building up their relationship the entire books, but it's fine if you don't think that.
6. Teehee, I really want Ron to die, but that's beside the point.
I just feel like all of these ideas are just to support something that isn't even real. Harry has never felt anything remotely like that for Hermione. He wasn't jelous in Herbology, was he? Was he jelous about Dean? You know it! 
Either way, it's super unlikely, in my opinion.
Dumbledore's Widow
Feb 27 2007, 01:01 AM
classicalravenclawwriter - There are people who don't care one bit as to how H/G came about in HBP, including some H/G shippers who have admitted so. In fact, there are a lot of people who don't like that they came together at all!
1. (a) Yes Harry has known Ginny for as long as he has known Ron and Hermione. Up until HBP, Harry just looked upon Ginny as Ron's little sister. It isn't until HBP that he becomes obsessed with her.
--As for the "dragon" you refer to, I am sure you are referring to Harry's "chest monster", you know, the one that roars whenever he is lusting for Ginny, the one that lives just below his waist line!

It's just the way that JKR wrote this "little romance" between Harry and Ginny. She wrote Harry/Cho quite differently. IMO, a bit more
believable!
2. Ginny may not have stalked Harry outright, but she did in a way. Remember the valentine Harry got 2nd year? It turns out Ginny sent it anonymously. A bit creepy. If I am not mistaken, she also sent a get well card too during one of Harry's stays in the infirmary. She admits to Harry during the break up scene that she never gave up on him even though she had lied to Hermione saying that she had. She did go through a couple of guys - as you say - just to use them. That's a cheap shot. Nobody would appreciate dating someone that clearly was crushing somebody else, so she made pretend that she was over Harry when she wasn't.
3. (a) Yes, Harry was at his happiest when he finally landed Ginny. Spent ... what? 2-3 weeks with her before realizing that it was as if he was living someone else's life (I'm paraphrasing here, but it is in canon). He realized that he was the only one that is suppose to defeat LV and he has to stop pretending to be something he is not. JKR said it herself, Ginny is a distraction.
-- "They were together, and their hearts beat as one."

This is a bit exaggerated.
-- I don't understand why some people seem h*ll bent on saying that Harry and Hermione are like brother and sister.

I for one have never gotten
that impression! Amazing!
4.
5. I have heard that JKR has been building up H/G too. I don't know anymore if JKR actually said it or someone made it up. But, in either case, I just don't see the build up, certainly not little 10 year old Ginny running after the train in book 1, or anything else she did in books 2, 4, and 5. Was she even mentioned in book 3?
6. Finally! Something we can agree on. I've always felt Ron could die in the end as I think that there could very well be a parallel to book 1 when he collapses at the end of the chess game allowing Harry to go find the sorcerer's stone. I don't particularly dislike Ron, I just think it's a plausible theory.
7. Jealous of Dean? Well.... duh! Even I who can't stomach H/G knows that this is the case. Here again, it's
just that lusting "monster" of Harry's that rears its ugly head!
Oh yeah, Harry and Hermione can
still happen!
Like the old saying goes -
'it ain't over till the fat lady sings'!
UnknownLocket
Feb 27 2007, 04:24 AM
QUOTE(classicalravenclawwriter @ Feb 26 2007, 05:28 PM) [snapback]333842[/snapback]
I don't see where this illusion of "Harry really doesn't love Ginny" is comming from.
Illusion? No, not really. Where in the books has Harry or Ginny said "I love you" to one another? No where. Where have they expressed anything close to love? No where. It's just like, love is too big of a word for this under developed relationship.
1) Although they are mature (almost), it still does not qualify as love. Also, I don't care how long Harry has known Ginny, it's how long he has thought of her in any romantic way. The answer to that is less than a year and so sudden that to me it is not acceptable. It's okay if you like the way JKR built up this relationship, but for me, I never saw the foreshadowing. If Harry has always felt so strongly for Ginny, why is it that we don't hear of it till now. Not even a single hint in the previous books. And just like Dumbledore's Widow, I think that the Harry and Cho relationship was more believable. At least, JKR dedicated 3 books to that build-up. Everyone saw it coming.
2) I had other reasons listed, but as you want to single this one out, then I will counter your argument. Dumbledore's Widow did tell you of some instances where Ginny's over obsession was creepy. Another example of stalking would be at Hagrid's cabin. Hagrid said that several times he had seen Ron's sister coming around his cabin.

Why? Well most likely she wanted to catch a glimspe of the famous Harry Potter, her huge crush.
3)I am of the belief that that is the happiest Harry has been
since Sirius's death. Before that, he must have had happier memories. Even if it really was the happiest he has been ever, that isn't good enough evidence of love. It just shows that he likes her company.
"They were together, and their hearts beat as one." - That really is a bit of an exageration. Too much depth for a relationship that lacks it.
4) He didn't feel annoyed when Hermione left because she had to and he always had Ron with her gone. And he only did feel annoyed with Ginny because he could never imagine being rejected by her. But that still doesn't prove anything.
5) Alright then, this is where we agree to accept each other's opinions and move on.
Side Note: Although best friends (Harry and Hermione), in many books, like the one I'm reading now, the best friends hook up and finally realize much they love each other. Yes, I used the word love. Why? Because it's real. They even say it.
pumpkinjuice
Feb 27 2007, 01:10 PM
Hermoine and Ron is a done deal as far as I'm concerned (and should be), and I think the fact that Harry recognizes that while his friendship with Hermoine is great, she is not RON, means that he is unlikely to wind up in love with her. It would be hard to imagine being in love with someone you acknowledge as a "second-best" as a friend. I think the trio all genuinely and truly love each other in the mode of friendship, but the only romance that is to happen there, which HAS been built up all along, is Ron and Hermoine.
The complication, and I posted this in a Luna thread, is that Luna may be interested in Ron, and that could lead to tensions and jealousies in any number of directions, especially since Ron is being nice to her.
I just don't see a girlfriend for Harry in DH, he is too busy and will be too emotionally exhausted. He may also be in captivity for some time during the story (if LV knows or realizes that Harry is [if he is] a horcrux, he will have to hold on to Harry while he figures out how to remove himself from him before killing him. So I'm picturing Harry tied up somewhere [magically], for a chunk of time in the story, also making him unavailable for snogging). But if he lives, I would hope that JKR rewards him in the epilogue with a life in which he finds the family love that he did not have except by way of quasi-adoption into the Weasleys.
Sirius' Mirror
Feb 27 2007, 10:10 PM
Personally I'm for Harry/Ginny all the way. Heck, in the movies Ginny looks a lot like Lily (Harry's mom duh)!
But just to throw out something that hasn't been used before (this thread has got to recieve a record for the most repeated info) remember Star Wars? Luke, Han, Leha? I'm not saying that Luke and Han were best friends. I'm not saying that Hermione and Harry are really brother sister (thats just stupid). What I'm saying is that the main hero was left alone, while the other two (as opposites as they were) fell in love with each other. I kinda believe its the same with Harry, Ron, and Hermione. Harry, the hero, will be left alone while the other two get together.
Oh and the only way I believe Ginny will be back (with Harry) before the end of book 7 is if Voldemort realizes that Harry still cares for her anyway and takes her hostage or something.
Jef1234
Mar 2 2007, 08:51 PM
I think that Harry and Ginny will go out again, because you know the only reason Harry broke up with Ginny was because he wanted to be "noble" but that's not a good reason. Ginny is too stubborn to let Harry go so they'll go out again!
Dumbledore's Widow
Mar 3 2007, 04:00 PM
QUOTE(Sirius' Mirror @ Feb 27 2007, 05:10 PM) [snapback]334352[/snapback]
Personally I'm for Harry/Ginny all the way. Heck, in the movies Ginny looks a lot like Lily (Harry's mom duh)!
But just to throw out something that hasn't been used before (this thread has got to recieve a record for the most repeated info) remember Star Wars? Luke, Han, Leha? I'm not saying that Luke and Han were best friends. I'm not saying that Hermione and Harry are really brother sister (thats just stupid). What I'm saying is that the main hero was left alone, while the other two (as opposites as they were) fell in love with each other. I kinda believe its the same with Harry, Ron, and Hermione. Harry, the hero, will be left alone while the other two get together.
Oh and the only way I believe Ginny will be back (with Harry) before the end of book 7 is if Voldemort realizes that Harry still cares for her anyway and takes her hostage or something.
I have never understood why Ginny looking like Lily would make Harry (and his monster) lust after Ginny?!

This is sooooo Oedipus Complex-like, and to this I have to say ...
EWWWWWWW!!! Frankly, if a guy was attracted to me because I reminded him of someone else - a celebrity, a relative, his mother!

- I wouldn't give him the time of day. So, this is a theory that I don't think is all that plausible in the first place, nor is it one that I will ever accept it.
If Harry and Ginny reunite in the final book, it will be because JKR decided to take the
easy way out and not bother to write in another girlfriend for Harry. However, I do believe that it would not take H/Hr (which is the ship I much prefer) nearly as long to get together as it did for H/G. Mainly because JKR
had to make H/G likeable and believable in HBP. But with H/Hr it would be so easy to get them together, and people will realize that it was always right there in front of them. So, will Harry get another girlfriend? Oh yes, a resounding
YES!
Sirius' Mirror
Mar 3 2007, 08:32 PM
Even though I do not agree with you, Dumbledore's Widow, I appreciate that you had a better argument than most that I already read (over and over and over and...) Plus you threw in Oedipus Rex... so A- to you (I am biased and don't agree with you or you'd have a A+)
That being said, I don't really believe that the Oedipus Complex is completely the case here. I just think that Harry dearly loves his mother that he never knew (just as all children should love their parents) and while he doesn't love Ginny because she's his mom's twin or something, her similar appearance to his mother is attractive to him. I think that the Oedipus Comlex would probably have to invovle Harry not being truly able to distingish Ginny from his mother. I think he truly does love Ginny for herslf, and therefore it would not involve the Oedipus Complex.
Think about it, a lot of people have significant others that look a lot like their parents... does that mean all of them have an Oedipus Complex??
Valid argument though.
classicalravenclawwriter
Mar 3 2007, 08:37 PM
Wow! I cannot believe what I am really hearing/reading. Harry doesn't love Ginny because she reminds him of his mother!! Sure, throughout the books, particularly book one, Harry has shown a huge want to be near his parents (talking about mirror for book 1). I don't think that pertains to Ginny though, snogging her and everything. I think that this idea is too based on the movies and the actresses, because the book only gives us a very limited amount. Yeah, sorry, but I really don't see it, desperate as Harry is to be shown parental affection.
Albus Dumbledore
Mar 3 2007, 09:04 PM
Actually, someplace JKR has said that Harry and Ginny is like James and Lily.. which to me is really boring and disconcerting. It is also apparent in our world to have men choose their wives because subconciously they remind them of their mother's which comforts them. Its not really a sick thought, but a natural thought that some men suffer and they dont realize it. In fact, the similarities between a man's lover and mother often go unnoticed until someone points it out. Some women do with men too, in regards to their father. Its an interesting theory and frankly I dont really care.. I hate the whole H/G deal anyway.
~Albus
UnknownLocket
Mar 4 2007, 01:35 AM
Lol, nice way to put it blunty Albus.

But seriously, I don't see any similarities between Ginny and Lily besides the red hair and that we don't know much information about the two. And really can we make it clear,
Harry does not love Ginny, nor does she love him.
Butterflytears
Mar 4 2007, 02:09 PM
I really don't think that Harry will have another girlfriend. He broke up with Ginny so that she wouldn't be in danger, I doubt he'd put another girl's life at risk. And as for him getting back with Ginny, I don't see that happening either. I think he'll have too much on his mind, what with trying to find the Horcruxes and destroying Voldemort.
classicalravenclawwriter
Mar 4 2007, 06:24 PM
If, Albus, you are correct about the derranged Harry thing, I suppose it might not be that twisted. I think that the significance of JKR's supposed comment is that it's sort of the next generation of Potters. It shows that even though all sorts of terrible things have happened, Harry still follows in the footsteps of his father. I don't think that he likes Ginny because she resembles Lily because 1. He probably would have thought something about it and 2. I think that would be a reason that he couldn't be near her because she reminds of him of something lost. I like that theory better. Also, could someone give the quote where JKR says this, because idk if that's really solid fact or not. Sorry you aren't for the H/G ship because I am all for it! 
Unknown Locket, OUCH!
Wow, you are seriously opinionated about this. Personally, I have wished that the two would get together forever because they are such a good match! All well, different opinions.
zonkos_employee
Mar 6 2007, 09:30 PM
Wow, some pretty good thoughts there... and just to comment on UnknownLocket, OMGsh, I laughed my head off when I read that part about the big black guy in the third movie. I was watching it with my friend on the weekend and then I saw him so many times in the movie!!! And I can't believe that everyone noticed that too! Hilarious. Back on topic though, I agree with classicalravenclawwriter that just because Harry is like with Hermione all the time doing work on the horcruxes etc. that does not mean that they are going to end up together. And I also think that Harry has always had a thing for Ginny but not showed it. Or maybe he didn't realize it.
swhitney536
Mar 6 2007, 09:52 PM
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Illusion? No, not really. Where in the books has Harry or Ginny said "I love you" to one another? No where. Where have they expressed anything close to love? No where. It's just like, love is too big of a word for this under developed relationship.
Harry makes this point very clear, actually when he's breaking up with Ginny. He tells her that the months spent with her have been like a dream out of someone else's life. That she really truly made him happy. This is basically a way of saying that he really does love her.
pumpkinjuice
Mar 6 2007, 10:00 PM
I was just relistening to OOTP, and noticed that Harry notices that Ginny has started speaking in front of him, just on the heels of his being interested in something about Cho. This is right after Ron asks, "I thought Ginny fancied Harry" and Hermoine said that was a thing of the past.
Interesting juxtaposition in his subconscious--he figures out without Hermoine's help that Ginny is able to speak to him because she is no longer quite as interested as before. Seems his subconscious processes her a little more robustly than his conscious mind. So, his connection with her maybe doesn't come out of nowhere later.
Now, would the Cho/Harry is more realistic claimants tell me how? How is that relationship drawn more realistically? And how is it favorable over the one with Ginny? I am asking your views on the Cho side, I dont need to hear the views of Ginny, which are pretty clear. Cho strikes me as totally wrong for Harry. And he comes to see that.
Xxfrankee-babyxX
Mar 6 2007, 10:27 PM
I think he will get back together with Ginny after his conquest. JK rowling said that there will not be aby new charcters introduced in the final book. He wont go out with Ginny until he has destroyed voldemort. He knows if he goes out with her voldemort will probably kill her. And he'll be too buisy for a girlfriend when he is biusy looking for horcruxes.
classicalravenclawwriter
Mar 7 2007, 11:12 PM
QUOTE(pumpkinjuice @ Mar 6 2007, 05:00 PM) [snapback]339186[/snapback]
Now, would the Cho/Harry is more realistic claimants tell me how? How is that relationship drawn more realistically? And how is it favorable over the one with Ginny? I am asking your views on the Cho side, I dont need to hear the views of Ginny, which are pretty clear. Cho strikes me as totally wrong for Harry. And he comes to see that.
Oh yes, Cho is absolutely terrible. Harry liked Cho because she was pretty and a quidtich player! Really, he never really loved her, especially when she keeps going on and on about Cedric and Hermione. Honestly, it's this mania people have about not letting girls have guys that are just friends! It always has to turn into something... anyway, yeah. Cho is really self-centered, and she never takes Harry's side until after the fact. They are completely wrong for each other.
UnknownLocket
Mar 14 2007, 02:00 AM
QUOTE(swhitney536 @ Mar 6 2007, 04:52 PM) [snapback]339179[/snapback]
Harry makes this point very clear, actually when he's breaking up with Ginny. He tells her that the months spent with her have been like a dream out of someone else's life. That she really truly made him happy. This is basically a way of saying that he really does love her.
That doesn't necessarily mean love. I guess it is more of how we define the word. I see love of having a much more deeper feeling than just that. That statement to me just shows how much he
liked her and her company. It's harder to see the true meaning of love in a book like this that doesn't take the time to develop it. Love is not a roaring monster in somebody's chest or a mere statement of being with someone for months and years. For you it may be, but I'm not satisfied, and unless the words "I love you" come out of somebody's mouth, this word will never be in my vocabulary of Harry and Ginny.
QUOTE(pumpkinjuice @ Mar 6 2007, 05:00 PM) [snapback]339186[/snapback]
Now, would the Cho/Harry is more realistic claimants tell me how? How is that relationship drawn more realistically? And how is it favorable over the one with Ginny? I am asking your views on the Cho side, I dont need to hear the views of Ginny, which are pretty clear. Cho strikes me as totally wrong for Harry. And he comes to see that.
QUOTE(classicalravenclawwriter @ Mar 7 2007, 06:12 PM) [snapback]339946[/snapback]
Oh yes, Cho is absolutely terrible. Harry liked Cho because she was pretty and a quidtich player! Really, he never really loved her, especially when she keeps going on and on about Cedric and Hermione. Honestly, it's this mania people have about not letting girls have guys that are just friends! It always has to turn into something... anyway, yeah. Cho is really self-centered, and she never takes Harry's side until after the fact. They are completely wrong for each other.
Now let me tell you about this Harry and Cho relationship. Yes, it was well developed much more than.....the other one. JKR dedicated 3 three books to making this ship form and progress. We first see Cho in the 3rd book. A very pretty quidditch player who Harry appears to like. In the 4th book, Harry takes it a step further by packing up the courage to ask her to the yule ball. Sadly, she was taken and Harry begins to show jealousy and hatred towards Cedric. In the 5th book, after Cedric's death, Harry finally has the chance to date her, but they break up afterwards and his feelings disappear. Perfect set up. Why? because Harry likes her yet isn't given the opportunity to date her. However, by now, we the readers know his feelings towards her so it isn't just something spontaneous and we expect something to happen. Remember, this is the first time we are introduced to Cho and we immediately see Harry's reaction to her (which isn't annoyance).
Now, I hear that a lot. Cho is a "psycho crybaby, I hate her". Well, we got to realize the situation she was in. At this time, Cho is vulnerable and heart broken. She likes Harry and possibly feels guilty because she is moving on too fast. Moreover, she wants to talk about the pain she is experiencing with Harry because he saw Cedric die. This was her way of moving on. The reaction of Harry meeting up with Hermione was not a jealous feeling but an example of the emotional state she was in. If any one should appear self-centered, it should be Harry because he was insensitive to her feelings, but of course, I don't necessarily like Cho's actions either.
If Harry had only gotten to Cho first before Cedric, I'm sure readers would have liked her more and the relationship would have lasted longer though probably not forever, most first relationships don't.
classicalravenclawwriter
Mar 14 2007, 02:36 AM
UnknownLocket, in short, are you saying that Cho and Harry had a more believable and deeper bond than Harry and Ginny! That's mental! 
Really, Cho was the kind of girl who I know all to well; she completely is wrapped up in her feelings and won't take two seconds to see life from another perspective. First, she defended Edgecome over Harry (yes, Over) after all of the DA stuff. Wonderfully, after she feels like Harry did something good she comes skulking back. Sure, Cho is pretty and everything, but really she spend way too much time dwelling in the past as opposed to living "in the now." I know Cedric's death was terrible, but Harry isn't acting like that and it affectied him far worse. She's always freaked about Hermione, too, just because Harry and Hermione are good friends; she thinks they're's something more (which there isn't, to me anyway; she likes Ron!) than what Harry tells her. I think that she has serious menal issues because of the way she acts.
Ginny, however, has more personality than Cho, and she totally lives for every momment. I think that Harry and Cho had more time to build up, but really it just completely crumpled when Harry started to realize Cho for who she was beyond the looks. They're so much better for eachother, and Ginny is a better choice.
Question: Unknown, you seem so adamant that H/G cannot work because the word has never been expressed. It has never even come close to Cho and Harry!
UnknownLocket
Mar 14 2007, 02:54 AM
I never said or will ever say that Harry likes or even loves Cho more because I do think that he likes Ginny more although I can't understand why. What I was doing was explaining Harry's relationship with Cho and how it is believable.
Cho is not wrapped up in her feelings. She is experiencing loss and unless you have had someone close to you die, you would never understand. We don't know Cho and when we finally do, she is an emotional wreck dealing with pain. Under different circumstances, she most likely would not appear that way and she would be herself with her normal personality.
She defended Edgecomb like any other friend would. Or at least I would because in my opinion friends are forever and boyfriends are whenever. And although she was wrong in siding against Harry, Harry also had no right to be so insensitive.
As for Ginny, argh! that's all I have to say.