when asked what happend to sirius motorcycle Jo replied , "good question. You'll find out, but the real sleuths among you might be able to guess"
my theory is that it is with hagrid.here are some lines to support this
"How did you get here?" Harry asked, looking around for another boat.
"Flew," said Hagrid.
"Flew?"
this is from PS chapter diagon alley
"Yeah - but we'll "I-I tripped."
"You tripped," she repeated coolly.
"Yeah, tha's right. Over... over a friend's broomstick. I don' fly, meself. Well, look at the size o' me, I don' reckon there's a broomstick that'd hold me."
this is from OOTP chapter hagrid's tale
so hagrid flew to the island but no broom would accomodate him.I think the bike is still with hagrid.

in the Sorcer's Stone pg 14 U.S. edition "Borrowed it, Professor Dumbledor, sir." said the giant, climbing carefully off the motorcycle as he spoke. "Young Sirius Black lent it to me. I've got him, sir."

he has had the motorcycle ever since the very first book and this is also when we here the name Sirus Black for the first time and it won't be the last either

I guess I always assumed the motorcycle is cavorting in the Forbidden Forest with the Ford Anglier--it seems to be a place where things get stashed (aside from the RoR) and is certainly Hagrid's private storage area.....

I can see Mr Weasley having the time of his life on it, tho....

Good observation! Its possible and i like that quote it could really mean something. Also I don't think Hagrid ever met up with Sirus again because he would have mentioned it in PoA in Three Broom Sticks to the other teachers and Fudge.


(if your talking about his trip to the Giants) I tought him and Madam Maxine traveld by foot to the Moutains.

But cant they do an enlargment charm on the broom so he could fit on it tough?

I agree that it is with Hagrid as well. I first thought this when i re-read PoA where it says something like "and Peter Pettigrew caught up with Sirius Black only a day later!". So Hagrid would not have had time to give it back to Sirius and besides, Sirius had also said "I have no use for it" (mentioned also in PoA).
I really like the idea about it being in the forest though - i never thought of that! And it is true that it as always been Hagrid hiding spot for things...Aragog, Grawp...and the Ford Angelina went there too...

I wouldn't be surprised if Hagrid still had it, but I am really perplexed to think of a reason why Jo would hide it for five books, just to bring it back in book seven. How will it factor into this final installment? Harry wouldn't need it - he's got a firebolt.....Maybe Hagrid will come flying out of the air and squash Voldemort in the final battle!

hello hehehe squash voldemort yea, i reckon hagrid is a good bet!! i feel quite bad for not knowing! seeing as jkr said that 'the real sleuths among you might have guessed'...........anyone know what sleuth means? love sirius!!

Going by the theory that the horcruxes are protected by the element they symbolise(slytherin's locket was protected by water)ravenclaw's must be protected by air.voldy might have put a spell which ensures that no broom comes near the horcrux.then harry will need the flying motorcycle.

siriuslyinlove - a sleuth is someone who is a detective, which would suggest that JKR has left clues about the motorcycle that some might have picked up along the way. I don't recall any myself, but common sense would dictate that since Hagrid was going to return it to Sirius, but Sirius wound up in Azkaban, that Hagrid probably has it. Personally, I think it would be nice for Mr. Weasley to end up with it, since he lost his Ford Anglia.

I do like the forbidden forest idea and about hagrid having it but surely harry, hermione and ron would have noticed it if hagrid had, i mean the motor bike was massive, so surely it would be difficul to hide, even in the forest as the trio have been deep inside the forest many a time, and if it was running around with th ford then surely it would have bee seen there?

sorry about been negative but i do think hagrid has it, somewhere, just where?

Yeah, good sleuthing there! I think Hagrid definitely has it, and keeps it stashed in the Forbidden Forest. But it makes you wonder, if he does have it, why wouldn't he have given it back to Sirius when he found out Sirius was innocent? That way Sirius wouldn't have needed to keep Buckbeak.

It might not play a major role, but maybe Hagrid will give it to Harry, seeing as Harry inherited everything else that Sirius had, and it's only fair that he inherit Sirius' motorcycle too.

It seems inevitable that Hagrid still has the motorbike. Normally the magical witches and wizards would apparate to get around. Sirius would have just found the motorbike to be a lark. It is a little unclear to me the extent of Hagrid's magical powers, but perhaps he can not apparate. This would have been taught in the 6th year after he had been kicked out of school by the treachery of Tom Riddle. So, to Hagrid, it would be much more useful than it was to Sirius.

Well i believe that hagrid still has the bike. because you no how harry gets all of siriu's stuff when he dies don't you think that they would have said something about getting the bike.but i'm not sure.my best guess:Hagrid still has the bike.

I see that most of you agree with me that hagrid has sirius bike but the question is "If he was so particular about noone knowing about the bike for 16 years why would he suddenly change his mind?"jkr said that the bike has a role in book 7.would it help in harry's search for horcruxes?

The flying bike, like the Ford Anglia, is an illegal magical object in Britain. Sirius was never much of a respecter of the rules.

Well, it may not have been illegal 17 years ago, but it is clearly illegal by the time of POA. Like the Ford Anglia or a flying carpet, it's only a 50 Galleon fine to get caught using it, but it's still a misdemeanor.

Hagrid still has it, but uses it only when absolutely necessary.

i don't agree with this.bike must be smaller than grawp and noone noticed grawp before hagrid showed them where it was.i think hagrid is good in hiding (eg:his umbrella which actually is his wand)

I believe Hagrid does have it somewhere. In the first book it states that Hagrid borrowed it from Sirius. So he intended to give it back. We know Sirius was arrested a few days later. So Hagrid couldnt have given it back. Its probably somewhere safe in the forest.

If in fact Hagrid does still have the motorbike, (for which I think he does) I think he will find a way of dropping it off to Harry on his birthday, kinda like a final gift from Sirius. If Harry does not fly the bike he can certainly still use it for ground transportation, since it seems that he doesn't like apparating much and broom flight can be treacherous.

Yeah, OK, maybe Harry squashes Voldemort on it....sorry, I'm still stuck on that.

On another topic related to the motorcycle....I can understand why Hagrid would need to have a mighty big bike to fly on, if that was his chosen mode of transportation. But the question that always bothered me was why Sirius would need a giant-sized bike? Is it possible that Hagrid enlargened the bike so it would be big enough for him to ride on it?

On the subject of apparition, I don't recall about the scene in the book, but I did have the distinct impression that Hagrid apparated when he left Harry with his ticket to get to the Hogwarts Express in the first movie. A guy as big as Hagrid couldn't have disappeared into the crowd, so the movie certainly gave the appearance that he had apparated.

i think it's in the railway station where harry wanted to ask hagrid something.but by the time he turns "hagrid was gone".but i am not totally convinced that hagrid can apparate because in book 6 it is given that difficulty in apparition is proportional to weight of the person.for hagrid it must it must be very difficult with his limited knowledge of magic.also if i remember correctly hagrid was expelled before his 6 year.

I tend to think that Hagrid is the likeliest person to have the motorbike. Is it possible though that it is at Grimmauld Place somewhere?

One question does occur to me. Why did Sirius Black have a bewitched motorbike? He was a pureblood, and a motorbike is certainly a muggle item. James and Lupin from what we know weren't muggleborn either, is Pettigrew I can't remember if we have ever found out, my memory tends to think we haven't.

I wonder if we find out why a wizard bewitched a motorbike, we might be able to understand where Hagrid stowed it after delivering Harry to the Dursleys; and more importantly the part it could play in DH.

JAC, I think the reason Sirius had the motorbike in the first place was ...because it was cool to him. Sirius was the most rebellious in the group. What better way to show off being a rebel than to get a muggle item and bewitch it? Granted, he could have taken anything, but he choose the bike, a symbol of muggle rebellion. Very James Dean.

yeah hagrid probable has it and i belive the purpose for it would be harry dosent like to diassperate and flying on the broom would hurt if they were riding for a long time and hermione isnt good at flying and doesnt own a broom as far as we know and a bike big enough to fit hagrid would fit hermione ron and harry

well, let's see here, if it plays a role in the last book then let's see what it did for harry in the first book.In SS it's being used for harry's escape from his parents home before any death eaters come looking for him, mty guess that's what the bike may be used for, perhaps where voldemorte and harry have their final battle(or one of their battles) is like Hogwarts where the people cannot disapparate....now that i think of it that raises a new theory, perhaps the final battle between the 2 will be at hogwarts!

anyway, back to the bike.
If the bike is still not in possesion of Hagrid( which i think it is) maybe its at number 12 grimmwauld place with the rest of Sirius' possesions

I agree with you mamaspell... He chose it because it was cool to him and a symbol of rebellion...

I think that if Hagrid does still have it he probably put in the forest or in Grimmauld Place... I'm kind of leaning towards the forest though, becaus we've been in Grimmauld place lots before and never heard of the bike... that would probably be the first thing to go when they cleaned the house in OotP wouldn't you think??

I remember, in the first book, after Hagrid drops Harry off, he says he's going to return Sirius his motorbike? He flew it back to him? I could be wrong, but I don't feel like getting my lazy butt up to check That's my vote.

I think your right hp_obsessor, I think that he went to return the bike, but I'm not sure if he found Sirius, because he was off looking for Pettigrew. Hagrid may have returned it but, I don't think he was able to find Sirius, so he just hid the bike somewhere, for safekeeping.

Given that there's a car cavorting wild in the forest unseen for books on end, I'm guessing the motorbike could do so as well. And Sirius bewitching a motorbike is no weirder that Mr Weasley bewitching a car. It looks a lot more like a broomstick than a car does, anyhow.

I cant figure why the kids didnt take the car to London instead of the Thestrals, though I suppose Ron and Harry either forgot they could or JKR needed to have them have occasion to talk about the horses you can only see when you're dead. And I guess they needed transport that could find its own way. OK, I answered that question for myself.

All these objects that are promised to make an appearance: this last book is going to be like a homecoming dance.

hagrid didn't give the bike to sirius because sirius says he doesn't need it anymore.the reason was that he was going to kill PP.

i agree with you pumpkinjuice.i would like to add a sentence by jkr on the forest
"anything dangerous is left in forbidden forest"
though the bike may not be dangerous the sentence proves that forbidden forest is like a store room for illegal things.

yeahh...i'm pretty sure Hagrid has it. Maybe it's in the room of requirement. Theres so much stuff in there that no one would really notice a bike, right?


about that ^, how would he have been able to get the bike back from the island? Maybe he left it there...

I think Hagrid has the bike, but has just hid it. I'm not sure why though and I really don't see how this is important, although it is shown in the first movie HPSS or HPPS. I heard JKR said since she can't have everything in the movies, she puts the important stuff,(not an exact quote, obviously) . I think it may be important in HPDH but I don't see how she would bring it back up! I like the idea that it may be in the RoR. Also that LV gets squashed by it, unlikely but amusing!

come to think of it i can't think of anything to support my theory but here goes...

i dont think hagrid has it


i mean hagrid has never been that law abbiding and i don't think he has all that much faith in the MOM's way of doing things, but maybe just maybe he gave it to them as it wasn't his and he couldn't return it.
or even he lent it to proffessor dumbledore, i mean we all know dubledore doesn't need a cloak to make himself not seen, and i bet he has more than one way of flying or transporting himself, he could have been on his way to the launching of his chocolate frog card and wanted to arrive with a bit of style. and asked hagrid if he could use the bike

if it has to be anywhere that we know of i think it is a grimulade (?) place,
otherwise jk has had it whisked away by someone thing, maybe the bike has its own feelings on where it should be and when and it just positions itself to be where it needs to be (what a nice thought)

but i do still think the topic diserves a hell of a lot more delving, i mean REALLY! why would you need to be a super slueth to work out where it is, if it isn't in the last obviouse place it was talked about / brought up

In regards to the bike, I believe that either the ministry or Mr. Weasley has it. It would make sense that Hagrid would turn it in to the department that Mr. Weasley works, and, furthermore, that Mr. Weasley would be so thrilled at the idea of a flying motorbike that he would use it as a prototype to make the Ford fly.

So, theoretically, Mr. Weasley still has it, or he returned it to his department after he was finished using it.