orome527
Feb 28 2007, 10:21 PM
what is the significance of Dumbledore being buried on the Hogwarts grounds. is it possible that in DD dying and being buried on the grounds that hogwarts is even better protected now?
GreenGred
Feb 28 2007, 10:23 PM
Thats an interesting thought. I am not sure it will have any significance to the plot I feel like he was buried there more out of respect because he gave so much to the school and it was basically his life.
classicalravenclawwriter
Feb 28 2007, 11:10 PM
I am going to agree with GreenGred. I mean, let's think about this from two ways. #1 I personally agree with.
1. The reason that he was burried on the grounds is because DD was the headmaster that gave the most to Hogwarts. Hogwarts was his life, and he loved seeing students grow and learn! He was kind and compassionate, and a bit mental!
Either way, the staff wanted to honor him and his commitment by burrying him on the Hogwarts grounds, the place where he truly belonged. Where else would he be!!?! Also, this way, future Hogwarts generations can know and honor him. It isn't significant to the plot.
2. If it was significant to the plot, as some believe, what could it possibly mean!?
Yes, I don't think that JKR needs to be trying to work out #2, seeing as she must be having a ton of major plot twists in Book 7 anyway!
Jef1234
Mar 2 2007, 02:16 AM
As much as I would like to think so, I doubt Rowling will make that so with the DE and LV wanting to take over Hogwarts. oh well.
Silence Dogood
Mar 2 2007, 03:37 AM
I am also going to have to agree with GreenGred. I am going to add a little something of my own to what he had said. I think it's what he would have wanted after he passed. I don't think it will be significant to the plot, and I don't see how it could.
Krissy15
Mar 2 2007, 03:42 AM
Well, Dumbledore did say, "I will truly only leave Hogwarts when no one supports me." or something to that effect. Maybe he is protecting them with some ancient magic? Cuaron said JKR told him there was a cemetary on the grounds, but she might have mentioned something similar to that effect, and Cuaron took it the wrong way. It's like a telephone game.
Perhaps there is a significance? I wonder what Dumbledore had up his sleeve. . .
classicalravenclawwriter
Mar 3 2007, 08:17 PM
QUOTE(Krissy15 @ Mar 1 2007, 10:42 PM) [snapback]335803[/snapback]
Well, Dumbledore did say, "I will truly only leave Hogwarts when no one supports me." or something to that effect. Maybe he is protecting them with some ancient magic? ...
Perhaps there is a significance? I wonder what Dumbledore had up his sleeve
Very interesting theory. Well the quote was "I will only truly leave this castle when none here are loyal to me. Help will always be given to those at Hogwarts who ask for it." I think that was it; I know the first sentence is correct. Anywho, the point is that the theory is a good one, and DD might have planned something to that effect. It kind of doesn't make sense though because him being buried on the grounds does not affect who is loyal. It might be a reminder or something, I am not sure. Also, really, he didn't asked to be burried at Hogwarts, and the teachers decided that that would honor him (I think). So really, he couldn't have planed anything.....
Interesting thoughts.
Albus Dumbledore
Mar 3 2007, 08:28 PM
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Also, really, he didn't asked to be burried at Hogwarts, and the teachers decided that that would honor him (I think). So really, he couldn't have planed anything..... Interesting thoughts.
I believe he had discussed the matter with Minerva McGonagall because I thought she said that being buried at Hogwarts was Dumbledore's wishes. Besides.. where else would he be buried? I can't think of a better place to put such a monument like Dumbledore's tomb other than glistening on the banks of the Lake.
Hmm writing that out made me think... why was Dumbledore put it a tomb? As far as we have seen, all dead things get buried.. and yet Dumbledore has tomb in store for his death. Hmm... there seems to be a running theme in literature with Tombs and Death. Christ was put in a tomb, Egyptian's were put in elaborate tombs to ensure life after death, heck.. even in Eragon, Brom the Storyteller/Dragon Rider was put in a tomb.. (which I found suspicious that Saphira would "protect his body from the ravages of time" right after we have it drilled into our heads (and Eragon's) that magic cannot bring back the dead...hmm *curious) .. it seems when somebody is put in a tomb.. they have more chances to ressurect. Hmmmm
~Albus
~.:hogwarts.bound:.~
Mar 17 2007, 01:06 AM
Ohhh... tombs. Well, I can't think of a better place for Dumbledore... Man, I love that guy. Anyway, where else would they bury him? The beach on which Harry suposes he spends his vacations? haha, now there's another question!
JamesP0tter
Apr 5 2007, 12:02 AM
i think it does have somthing to do with it becuase i just finished re-reading HBP like 3 hours ago and it said that dumbledore himself wanted to be buried at hogwarts. i think it will mean something.
classicalravenclawwriter
Apr 5 2007, 03:04 AM
QUOTE(Albus Dumbledore @ Mar 3 2007, 03:28 PM) [snapback]336886[/snapback]
Hmm... there seems to be a running theme in literature with Tombs and Death. Christ was put in a tomb, Egyptian's were put in elaborate tombs to ensure life after death, heck.. even in Eragon, Brom the Storyteller/Dragon Rider was put in a tomb.. (which I found suspicious that Saphira would "protect his body from the ravages of time" right after we have it drilled into our heads (and Eragon's) that magic cannot bring back the dead...hmm *curious) .. it seems when somebody is put in a tomb.. they have more chances to ressurect. Hmmmm
~Albus
Interesting idea, Albus. Hm... well. I only thought that DD was put in a tomb so that future generations would be able to keep a reminder of him at all times. I suppose though that you do have a point. It is true that there is much about tombs and ressurection, and that could play a role. Though, this time, it would have to be in sprit or something else because DD is dead, and JKR (as I know you have probably heard a zillion times
) is dead....
In Book 7, JKR has to have a lot of twists, so I suppose the way she makes this happen will be one of them.
Thoughts? 
CRW
Weasley Lover
Apr 5 2007, 08:16 PM
I belive that Dumbledore was buried on the Hogwarts gorunds because he loved the school so much and too care of everyone in the school. He would not want the memory of him to be forgoten by that students, and it wont.
time turner
Apr 6 2007, 01:17 AM
I don't think that tis has any signifigance to the plot. This is just the students and teachers trying to respect DD. If it did have signifigance I couldn't even guess at it.
Felipe
Apr 7 2007, 01:41 AM
I think it is important, but I don't know in what way!
Dobby'sboggart
Apr 10 2007, 10:15 PM
Forgive me if somebody already quoted this from HBP.
HARRY: "What about Dumbledore's funeral?"
MCGONAGALL: "Well...I--I know that it was Dumbledore's wish to be laid to rest here, at Hogwarts--"
So, it was Dumbledore's wish to be buried at Hogwarts. Why? Because he is so attatched to the school. He is the headmaster. He's contributed more than any other Head. And of course...he will only have truly left the school when none there are loyal to him.
Besides, JKR needed a place for the funeral, and what better place than Hogwarts? We neede Harry to see the funeral, and how could he have been allowed to see it?...by having the whole school attend. And we will save on pages, danger risks, and complex travel if the funeral is at Hogwarts.
hermionie halliwell
Apr 10 2007, 10:43 PM
As it says in book 6 he deserves to be buried because he was the headmaster for so long so we would all thing that he would be buried in the most best place and you should think that too. sorry if i am a little harsh
"It does not do to dwell on dreams and forget to live, remember that."
Parakeet11
Apr 17 2007, 08:27 PM
There is a sentimental need for Dumbledore to be there, I mean he was the guiding light for the school, as well as headmaster, protector and spirit. Anyway, how old is Dumbledore, 300? He's been looking out for the school since anyone can remember he would still want to be left their. Also I have a theory his ghost might be able to help Harry
LittleRed7771
May 17 2007, 11:47 PM
I think there is significance behind DD's burial at Hogwarts. We know the location is significant because of JKR's interference in, I believe, the movie OoP. However, as someone else quoted for us, DD will never be gone as long as there are those who are loyal to him. Also, as long as DD is around, Hogwarts is safe. So, what if DD cast a lasting spell that as long as he, or his body, is one Hogwarts grounds and there are still those loyal to him, he will be able to protect Hogwarts from outside forces. Like on the DH cover, the castle is standing there with a whitish glow and clear skies over head, but just next to it the "dark forces" are closing in. Maybe it's DD spell with his body being buried on grounds that is keeping the "dark forcesl" from entering the castle area or Hogwarts grounds. Just a thought.
xchristendimayx
May 20 2007, 10:29 AM
well of course -- it's really obvious! dumbledore said he'd do anything to protect hogwarts [as said so in chamber of secrets] & he'd also pay respects to make that his death bed?
ilovehpwaymorethanyoudo333
May 21 2007, 07:55 PM
yes... i belive that his presents makes it almost imposible for voldemort himslef to go there. because well as you all know voldemort is scared of dumbledor and well yeah so even after death how does voldemort know that will happen. but i know that he was barried there because he requested it.. so who knows?!
lordcodyo22
Jun 5 2007, 04:28 PM
QUOTE(orome527 @ Feb 28 2007, 06:21 PM) [snapback]334923[/snapback]
what is the significance of Dumbledore being buried on the Hogwarts grounds. is it possible that in DD dying and being buried on the grounds that hogwarts is even better protected now?
i believe when they're talking about his burial in the heads office, they teachers mention that he wished to be buried there, and that he gave more to the school than any other headmaster or mistress..so he deserved to be there. im not sure if theirs anything more significant than that, but who knows. we'll soon find out!
asland
Jun 9 2007, 07:54 AM
ok i believe that dumbledor planned his death,because hagrid overheared him arguing with snape and snape saying that "he didnt want to do it anymore" IT being killing dumbledor <thats what i strongly believe anyway>
now why die when he,while not able to kill voldemort,had much to contribute <helping harry with the horcruxes,leading the order,etc etc (buisy man that dumbledor)>therefor he saw that he could contribute more in death
perhaps he left behind protection for the school,protection for harry,perhaps it was motivation for harry,perhaps he did something so that when he dies harry will have some sort of power <perhaps passing on his own,think about it,do you honestly belive that in a fair one on one deul that harry could defeat voldemort...i like harry,my fav char next to dumbledor,and i want him to win and survive...but without something,well something more than hes got now he cant win> now before you shoot that down remember how little we truely know of the magical world...you may not necisarily have to die protecting someone to give protection/power to a particular person/place
or maybe he left a will with something <maybe many things> for harry...perhaps his personal items he kept in his office <he had so many cool and probly powerful objects in there that very well may help harry> maybe some sort of personal spell book <its mentioned in OotP that dumbledor could do things with a wand that the test proctor didnt know possible...ide be honestly surprised if he didnt make up his own spells>
or maybe those of you who think its of no real importance are right and it was simply in honering of his last wishes...but i strongly believe in my above theory
lsbf216
Jun 9 2007, 08:38 AM
[color=#CC0000] I keep thinking about the similarities between Luke Skywalker and Harry. Remember Obi Wan's last words to Darth Vader, "If you strike me down, I will become more powerful than ever."? What if, seeing as how DD is Harry's Obi Wan, DD can provide continued protection in death? My only "problem" is that the paralyzing spell on Harry stopped as soon as DD fell over the edge of the tower. If that helped Harry to understand that DD was indeed really dead, then what spell or protection can continue after DD's death?
vortext
Jun 9 2007, 05:32 PM
We know Voldy really wants to take over Hogwarts. Having DD buried there just might stop him from carrying out whatever he has been planning. I do like LittleRed7771’s thought on how his presence will keep it safe from the ‘dark forces’. Sounds about right to me.
asland
Jun 13 2007, 09:03 AM
QUOTE(lsbf216 @ Jun 9 2007, 08:38 AM) [snapback]396315[/snapback]
[color=#CC0000] I keep thinking about the similarities between Luke Skywalker and Harry. Remember Obi Wan's last words to Darth Vader, "If you strike me down, I will become more powerful than ever."? What if, seeing as how DD is Harry's Obi Wan, DD can provide continued protection in death? My only "problem" is that the paralyzing spell on Harry stopped as soon as DD fell over the edge of the tower. If that helped Harry to understand that DD was indeed really dead, then what spell or protection can continue after DD's death?
intresting and possible...only problem is i think that that is the wrong way of thinking to use in this situation...mostly because on her site JKR is always making jokes about how ppl watch to much starwars "too mcuh starwars will do that to a person" "you ppl are watching starwars to much" and she does that everytime a starwars-ish comment is made or fans make a starwars-ish theory <like voldemort being harry's dad...THAT was funny...and sadistic>
so im not shooting it down,but the fact that it sprang from thoughts of starwars makes it unlikely
Muggle Slayer
Jun 26 2007, 01:57 AM
Professor McGonnagall "No other headmaster or headmistress has ever been-" Hagrid "No other headmaster or headmistress ever gave more to this school"
Thats why. Dumbledore never wanted to leave hogwarts, and now he never will.
El Barto
Jun 26 2007, 05:35 AM
I agree with you all in that he was buried there for sentimental reasons...could be possible for something else...but I think its just that he wanted it that way.
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As it says in book 6 he deserves to be buried because he was the headmaster for so long so we would all thing that he would be buried in the most best place and you should think that too.
If we're talking about longevity then a lot of professors would be buried at Hogwarts.
sharkbaithoohaha
Jun 26 2007, 10:17 PM
in both the chamber of secrets and the half-blood prince, harry says, "dumbledore will only be gone from this school when none here are loyal to him." and it is the truth, in the most literal sense. the teachers stood up and said dumbledore must be buried here, because it's what he wanted; they stayed loyal to dumbledore's wishes, and now he will never leave the school. i agree that jkr has WAY too much to explain already without some symbolic meaning of dumbledore's burial. i think it was just out of respect and love for the greatest headmaster hogwarts ever had.
Sirren
Jun 27 2007, 12:26 PM
Dumbledore's greatest joy was the school and those students filling it. There seems no other fitting place for him to be buried, as he was said to be the greatest Headmaster Hogwarts has ever known. Truly, only those that were against him did not find him suitable.
Yet, Dumbledore gave Hogwarts an incredible dignity through his presence; one that is not gone for his tomb still stands upon the grounds.
Perhaps we will find there is more to Dumbledore than we knew concerning Hogwarts, perhaps not. I just can't see him being buried anywhere else: Hogwarts was his life, his love, and his one true passion.
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