I'm stumped. Check out this bit from ananova.com. I'll copy it, for those who don't like links...



I have a problem with the credibility of this. Is ananova.com to be trusted? Our local papers often quote the site, so I've always thought it was, but this sounds fishy, right? And did Dan mean these are the things he thinks are going to happen, or has he some inside info about the book release? He would only have it from Jo herself, because her publishers have nothing to do with him, but would she tell him stuff like this? And would he tell anyone else? (Unless he's had an engorgement charm done on his head...)

Here's the German Vanity Fair bits, and I'm sorry for the translations. They're my fault.


He also let slip what the author, JK Rowling, had told him: The Headmaster of Hogwarts, Albus Dumbledore who is believed to be dead, comes back.



For Radcliffe the ending of the story holds a spectacular challenge. "I'm already looking forward to the death scene, it would be great to be able to play that."

That's as much as the online version contained. It would be great if someone could get their hands on the actual edition and tell us what it says! Ananova seems to have been pretty truthful on the bit I could check up on.

Nah!!!! Nah!!!!! *she says shaking her head, profusely* No way Jose!

She just wouldn't tell him that sort of deep insider stuff would she? Even so, he would know that it's got to be more than his jobs worth to blab about that.

I read an article in one of the newspapers that come to UK schools last week, in it was an interview with Dan in which he said, and I paraphrase here."I hope that Harry Potter does die at the end of book seven." Then there was a load of stuff about him being known as Harry for ever more. Anyway I do wonder if the interview was a mistranslation of this.

This is an extract of the article that I read.

I want him to die because I have a melodramatic yearning for a death scene. And the prophecy in the fifth book says only one of Harry and Voldemort can live. Or is it that neither can live while the other survives? Oh God, what is it? The fans will kill me if I've got that wrong."

The full article was available to read on timesonline.

But this...Nah!!! Nah!!!!Way!!!

Oh and that's not the first time that I've heard the rumour about the book going on sale in some places on 7th July. But I put that down to people believing that, that date was the most likely date for release prior to the official announcement.

I don't believe it, either. Like Elaine said, he hoped for a death scene for Harry. And Jo has already said that Dumbledore really is dead. If he's telling the truth, then she's lied. I've never seen her do that! Sounds to me like they've twisted some things around!

On a personal note, I really don't know how Harry could die. How can the person from whose point-of-view the story is told--die? The story would simply cut off there, there could be no wrap-up because there's no point-of-view.

I read an interview (sorry don't have the link) recently where Dan said that Rowling showed up on the set of OOTP one day unexpectedly and he ran into her. He said to her, "Hey - what are you doing here?" and she said "I really needed a break from writing - I'm having some problems with Dumbledore." and Dan said, "Hang on - I though Dumbledore's dead." and Rowling said "Well yes he is - but it's a bit more complicated than that."

Maybe that's where this bit comes from. Rowling has stated repeatedly that Dumbledore is dead, but I'm sure his character will still have a role to play in the Deahtly Hallows.

I don't believe that either. I'm not gona believe anything until I read the book!

and for Aethonon the story is not from Harry's point of view....it's about him, not by him.
when they talk about him it doesn't say "I" it says "Harry" which is third person point of view..so if Harry did die the story wouldn't just stop because it's being told by anyother person. (don't ask who...I don't know but it's not Harry)

What I meant was, we are privy to Harry's feelings, Harry's reasoning...we are privy to what's in his head--his perspective. No one else's. I don't see Jo reverting to writing from Ron's perspective for the last three chapters of a 7-year saga. Either way it doesn't detract from my point--it would just be bad form to change the perspective now.

The story about Harry Potter is, indeed, given to us mostly from Harry's Point of View. Yes, it's about him, but it also focuses on Harry's perspective. We only have two or three chapters (Chapter 1 from GoF, and chapters 1 and 2 of HBP). Those are told from Frank Bryce's Point of View, the new Prime Minister's Point of View and Narcissa's (or possibly Bellatrix's) Point of View.

At any rate, I do believe that the sources are misquoting or mistranslating. . . Dan probably does hope to play a dramatic death scene, but I don't believe that JKR has told anyone her plans for him, including Dan. I think that he's just as much a fan as he can be, and so he has many speculations as we all do; and when he gives an interview - I'm sure he's asked his thoughts on how it's going to end, and because he plays Harry, he's probably seen as an authority on it, when he's not. (How's that for a horrible run-on sentence?!)

As far as we know, the only people she's talked with about the fate of their characters were Alan Rickman and Robbie Coltrane. And that was back in SS, so who knows how much she even told them? I think, even if she had told Dan about the fate of the character, he would be under some sort of contract or stipulation where - like the illustrator who's name I can't spell. . .sorry - he would be prohibited from talking about it. It would be foolishly unprofessional of him.

I concede, I did get the terminology wrong. I also forgot that there have been instances of the story being told from another perspective, in which case Jo might end the story as she began it--from another's perspective. That would suck though. I am a fan of Harry surviving. lol

When I read that I thought you ment it as frist person point of view.
I hope that you didn't take what I said earlier as mean or rude ...I wasn't trying to be...just saying that from what I can tell Harry Potter is writen in third person not first.
I guess I was looking at it "technically".




again...not trying to be rude...but just because a chapter is about a person doesn't mean it's their "point of view" ...there is a difference between "a person's point of view" and when something is "being told about that person"

does anyone understand what I'm trying to say?

No worries, hon, I understand.

But the thing is, even if there's a big difference between point-of-view and perspective, it really doesn't matter, does it? We're sort of arguing over something that isn't really relevant to the thread. Point-of-view...perspective...what I was trying to communicate is that I surmised that it would not be possible for Jo to have Harry die, because the story is told from his perspective. I just used the wrong terminology. Then Janet (passerby) pointed out something I'd forgot--that there actually have been chapters in which Harry's perspective was not the focus. So, I had to concede that actually, Jo could kill Harry off and have the last book end from someone else's perspective.

Which I hate conceding, because I don't want Harry to die! Not just from the emotional attachment I feel for Harry, but it would also be so formulaic! Harry as Christ-figure--like Neo in the Matrix--sacrificing himself? Booooring! So I hope not.

And Janet, yeah, that would be rotten of Dan to do, wouldn't it? It would ruin it for millions of fans eagerly waiting to read the last book--not to mention the millions of people who probably wouldn't buy the book if they knew the ending early. Man, that would not be cool, so I can't see Dan doing that--he's always been a professional.

Yea....I agree...but when I get something on my mind and have an opinion about it...it just kind of comes out before I know it

So...yea...back to the topic!?!

I don't see why Dan would do that or why he would even have that kind of information?
I've got were I don't believe when "someone says what a celeb says". for all I know he never even gave the interview?
so like I said before...I'm not going to believe anything until the book comes out and I read it myself.

Guys, I'm pretty sure this has been taken out of context, and here's why: In a newspaper article in the UK Dan said he WANTED Harry to be killed off, not that he KNEW Harry would be killed off, so there's where I think the confusion lies. Here's an article tibet:

"And Daniel, 17, who gains access to his £20 million film earnings on his 18th birthday on July 23, says: "I sort of hope I'll die in it.

"I think that's the only way Jo can end it and I've a melodramatic yearning for a death scene."
J.K. Rowling, as fans know her from her 300-million-selling series, has said two of her main characters will die in the last book.

And Daniel, along with millions of fans, wonders if Harry's fate is intertwined with evil arch enemy, Lord Voldemort. "Maybe one can only die if the other does," he says.

Ms Rowling, 41, whose share of the £2.5 billion Potter franchise is put at £750 million, may wish to eliminate Harry to prevent him appearing in other people's books and being marketed in ways she would not approve of.

She has said: "I can completely understand an author who thinks, 'Well, I'm going to kill them off because that means there can be no non-author-written sequels'."

Of the two deaths in the final chapter, she says: "A price has to be paid. We are dealing with pure evil. They go for the main characters."

- Daily Mail (UK)
19th February 2007

I think the British Press have been reporting the same stories for weeks. All of them losely state the same thing, that Daniel wants Harry to die, rather than he knows that he will.

JKR wouldn't have told him with there being some kind of secrecy agreement signed first, no matter who he is. I just don't think he would blab about something as important as this. I mean if it had been true you can be sure that JK would be talking lawsuits allover the place.

god guys. get a good thread. it's pointless debating about who said what. it all boils down to WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS. and none of you have that kind of knowledge. so instead of wasting time going yeh but yeh but but the thing is and proving NOTHING lets talk about something worthwhile.

geesh

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