Well, well...five days ago I saw some topics and posts on other famous HP sites e.g.the-leaky-cauldron.org, mugglenet.com etc.

And, i am glad to say that I have spoken with the guys who saw the secret test-screening of OotP in Chicago!!!!

I know what is gonna happen in the film.


But because I don't really want to leak the information here, whoever wants to learn and ask for scenes of the film, I don't think they've said everything to me but i can confirm which scenes are in and which are out.

And there are deep cuts.

Nevertheless, you have to stay calm since this was just a test-screening and after it, they add some scenes so the film might include scenes which are not in this ROUGH cut of the film.
And i say ROUGH because it is ROUGH.
And, a lot of special effects were incomplete and some scenes where skipped even though thewy have filmed them.

All these people have said that the film even though the effects and th ecinematography and the score were 60% ready, was the best in the series and the less dissapointing and the most action packed and impressive from all!!!

So, if you search for info send a private message to me!

Here I can discuss justthings that are not spoilers. For instance, the acting and the atmosphere of the film etc.

I think that a lot of people will probably be interested, and the title of the thread is a large enough spoiler warning, I think

Just one question - is Lupin in it much?

Well, it's better if you could send pms rather than talking about the details of the film here.


Well...

*SPOILERS*

































Lupin is not much in the film. He is just in three scenes. He almost does not play in the film.
I'm afraid a lot of Lupin fans will be very very dissapointed.

I THOUGHT LUPIN WAS 1 OF THE MAIN OOTP MEMBERS. DOES HE FIGHT IN THE LAST BATTLE AT THE END AGAINST THE DEATH EATERS??????????

Mod Edit: Please check out my comment below.

Well,calm down.

Steve, you questions are better to be made in private messages because my answer is supposed to be a spoiler.
Here we could discuss about the tone, the acting etc.

If you would really like my answer, it's better to send a pm.


Thanks.

Steve, please don't type in all caps - it's considered shouting on the Internet, and rude.

As for spoilers - why not use the spoiler tag? Just without the *'s:
[*spoil]Type your spoilers here![*/spoil]

But as Louise said, the title is enough of a spoiler warning.

Anyways! What?! Not in the film much! That is disappointing!

I really like Lupin, but I have to admit, OotP doesn't have much about him in it, really. Actually I'd much rather they do Sirius justice in this one, and bring Remus to the foreground later. They can't fit everything in the film, which is a pity, but hopefully he'll have a crucial role in DH so we can be certain of him getting lots of screen time in that film.

I read a review from a non-fan (the link was on the main page, I think), and from that it sounds ok. The person didn't like Umbridge, which is understandable, but she irritated, which isn't good. Sure, the woman is irritating, but squirming through her scenes isn't exactly what I had hoped for. Still, I'll reserve judgement for when I've seen more footage and the full film. I'd be disappointed, because I thought casting Imelda Staunton was a good move.

On the whole I get the feeling some of the adult actors think this is a joke, really. Helena Bonham Carter, from what I've seen, looks like she's entertaining toddlers and from the review it sounds like Imelda went in that direction too. That would be rather irritating! Did anyone experience that?

Hmm, and what about the young Marauders evanescence?! I'm so curious about them!

evanescence, just incase you didn't notice, I'm admin, so if I say that it's okay to post here, it's okay to post here

So no Lupin. Big surprise.

Ah, I'm not going to say anymore...I think people are fed up of my cynicism anyway so I'll just shut up now.

Somehow I am not believing this. Call me a die-hard skeptic, but I really dont like trusting these things because we all have been duped before. Unless Evanescence can give me SERIOUS proof that she knows the entire description, Im afraid to take her word. Can you provide any evidence to sway my mind?

~Albus

Tom, how is she going to prove she's talked to someone who saw it?!

Anyway, here's that review I was talking about. Doesn't say anything about Lupin, but it gives a nice description from a non-fan point of view. Grawp is a disaster, and I'm not suprised. Even if he is as lifelike as Gollum, I still think he's a lame attempt to show off CGI. HP won't ever win any Oscars and if it does, Grawp's not going to be it.

Hehe, that's really my point.

Is there any proof there was a test-screening in Chicago? It's just that information like this usually sensitive and Im sure that you don't want to eat up her words then find out she completely fabricated it, Laurette. Anything concerning the movie or book I am taking with a grain of salt.

Ok, about Lupin. Isnt Lupin scarce in this book anyway? I thought he goes underground with the werewolves? So wouldnt it be likely that Lupin would not have much screen time?

~Albus

Did you have a look at my link, mate? VTM and that other silly site reported that there had been a screening and you won't find more reliable HP sources on the web. If this was a huge faked thing it would be the most pointless ploy ever, simply because it doesn't shatter worlds, so why bother? If you're going to scam people, why post a tame review pretending to be a non-fan? Know what I mean?

Edit: And Jo's favourite site, TLC, obviously reported it too. No way would they do it if aintitcool.com was a dodgy source. There is too much pride at stake.

Hmm I still dont know. I dont doubt now that there was a review in Chicago, as I forgot that this was big news recently, but I do doubt the convictions by evanescence. Im not accusing him/her of lying, but I just hope he/she wasnt lied to. I have read evanescence's post history and Im surprised to see that she seems to know much more about OotP than most people. She knows exact times certain scenes were filmed, what scenes are in/out... a whole hoarde of information that seems unlikely, especially given the time frame when she/he posted... late-August, early-September through November. It just seemed a bit early for me to spitting out facts and all. Is evanescence more than meets the eye (higher up in Warner Bros)? Is he/she a fraud? I dont know but its all very interesting.

~Albus

Yeah, Lupin's only in a few scenes anyway, i counted a big four I feared when reading the book originally that they would cut him from the book entirely, so truth be told i'm just glad that he's in the film!

Although, i would like to see him in a lot more scenes than three or four.

so, evanescence, what scenes is Lupin in? I hope that they haven't cut him out at the end, that's probably the most important part in the series for him at least...

Normally if someone said that they knew about a new movie months before it's release i would just say 'yeah yeah, right you are.' But in this case, no one's actually claiming to have seen the movie which makes it slightly more reliable. but i do agree that nothing can be set in stone, it was only a screen test (and yeah, do they normally do public screenings of them?) which makes me think that there will be more editing to come, and maybe some more adding? Deleted scenes that they've realised were in fact needed... I don't know how this film production thing works.

i'm not accusing anyone of llying, just that i don't think it's the finished product, i don't think it's going to be what we see in the cinema on friday 13th so i'm going to take it with a pinch of salt and pray for som emergency Lupin adding

well, if you don't believe this don't believe this.
I really didn't believe it when I first read that.
But I would really love to give you many sites where you could find lots of information about the film's description.
for insance
www.imdb.com

you could go there and search for th efilm. Go to the boards and searchinf through the pages you'll find many many topics where fans ask for many things. and i got information from there.
Also, there is a guy in www.the-leaky-cauldron.org where he has given a lot of info about the film, the acting,t he deleted scenes etc.

there are also previews in www.harrypotterfanzone.com
www.mugglenet.com

i still don't know if this piece of information is true but i really think it is since all of them described the scenes alike.

And i am male.


Read this:
- The Dementors are more skeletal than in PoA
- Dudley's gang (“which are quite hilarious when you come from the West side of Chicago") confronts Harry on the playground. The grass is dry (as there's a drought in the books). The Dursleys are in the film for 10-15 mins, then Moody etc come to take Harry to Grimmauld.
- Harry does have his "shouting and throwing" scene in Dumbledore's office. "It's a powerful scene and Dan's acting (as have most of the younger regular cast) has vastly improved. It isn't as heartbreaking as you may think. The book causes you to empathise with Harry, but Daniel can only do so much.
- Occlumency is done using quick editing and flashback, with quick but not lumpy or saturated looks.
- Ron and Hermione are being held by DeathEaters during the DD/Vold/Harry fight.
- The twins do bust out of Hogwarts like in the book, but they don't cast the swamp spell. "It is one of the more memorable scenes in the movie. Incredible effects."
- Very little foreshadowing between Harry and Ginny - they share a look that book fans will recognize and appreciate.
- Carlos says the film will be "less disappointing to fans" than others.
- The Ministry is portrayed as totalitarian, with the Minister as a bit of a dictator and Umbridge as his right hand.
- Dumbledore's escape was spectacular.
- Harry writes "I must not tell lies" on his hand, and it's a "brutal" scene. The entire DA is subjected to this later in the movie, except Cho.
- Imelda is "just the right amount of cruel."
- Grawp has a role in saving the kids from Umbridge. His screen time is minimal.
- The Black family tapestry is "lush and detailed" as Sirius explains it to Harry.
- Ron is minor in the movie.
- The film centers on Harry and the DA on the whole.
- The Seamus and Harry fight is in the film, but not very big - just more of an arugment. Ron comes to Harry's aid and all is forgotten.
- Ron and Hermione: subtle and constant tension, a little foreshadowing in looks and actions.
- There aren't any "invented" scenes; it's all from the book.
- The movie moves quickly, but the scenes last as long as they are relevant.
- Harry produces his patronus to knock the dementors out at the beginning, leading to his trial at the Ministry.
- Dumbledore was "calm and inventive" during the Voldy battle, which was "great"; no curse whirled Herimone's way.
- Natalia Tena as Tonks was "great and funny," and there was no real Tonks/Lupin interaction.
- Harry's kiss isn't actually funny; it's the description later that is.
- On the cinematogrpaphy: "This film feels, cinematically, like a film from the 50's filmed in Cinema-Scope. A wide aspect ratio with tons of shots that have a lot of movement in them. The kind of thing that will be killed in P/S format on television. The scenes with the DA are all wide with few closeups so we can see everyone practicing. The walls are mirrored so it gives you the sense of a dance studio/martial arts training center. It makes for a great visual. Versus the other films, it's more like the first one. I don't know if Yates' stamp will be apparent, as I understood this is his first feature."
- Ron, Hermione, Luna and Neville are held by Death Eaters during the last battle.
- The death is well acted and well shot
- There is no St. Mungo's
- Sirius has a lot more screen time.
- The DA lessons "begin awkwardly," and are among the most memorable. One particular duel is going to "blow up the forums" (relating to shipping - as Emma Watson has said in the past that at one point she pins Ron against a wall, this is probably that duel).
- Mr. Weasley's attack is in the film.
- Bellatrix is "mean, no doubt, and lets Neville know he's #1 on her list." She doesn't interact with Harry much.
- No Quidditch, and no kiss from Hermione to Ron.
- Ron and Hermione have roughly the same amount of screen time.
- The "I disagree with Dumbledore on many counts..." line is in the film and is a great crowd pleaser.
- The Weasley antics are huge and bright, just like in the book
- The twins do sell their wares in the film.
- No Quibbler article, but Luna is reading it in the carriage pulled by the Thestral.
- On Emma: "Emma is a consumate professional which is to say that she's picking up all the good acting habits from the fabulous talent and hundreds of years of combined experience from the actors on set. I wouldn't be surprised to see Emma break out and become a real movie star in the future. She's got the chops and you don't just develop that over time. Don't be surprised to see her at the Academy Awards some day. When she's done with the potter series, you'll be amazed at what she is capable of. I really mean this."
- Moody's broom is supposed to be fun/funny
- The Room of Requirement is discovered by Neville and explained by Hermione. No boggart. Ron never makes the film!Ron scared-face.
- Aunt Petunia's Howler is not in the film.
- Ron is more confident than in the past.
- Cho is the snitch, but she was Vertiaserumed into it. Though Harry gives her a very cold look.
- The DD/V fight "rocks the house"
- The possession of Harry by Voldemort is in the film and supposedly very well acted.
- Lily does not stick up for Snape in the Worst Memory part.
- Hagrid speaks only a little bit about where he's been, and his brother.
- The film reflects on Harry's growing independence from the adults in his life.
- Harry acts as a leader, with Ron and Hermione more like sidekicks than in other films.
- Sirius seems to be the only person Harry won't contradict.
- The "Snape's Worst Memory" scene is "much easier to bear" than in the books; it's not as humiliating in the film. It's 3 or 4 minutes long. No underpants, just hanging in the tree.
- No lion hat on Luna.
- Kreacher is featured and is a big jerk (lol). He's a sinister Dobby.
- Draco isn't in the film much, though he does well when he's there.
- Harry and Hermione go with Umbridge to the forest, as in the book.
- The jokeshop isn't explained; it's not necessary to do so.
- Prefects are not appointed as in the book; the appointments are not mentioned.
- Draco is Umbridge's lackey in the Inquisitorial Squad.
- "The Weasleys are the script's whipping posts."
- Hermione instead of Ginny introduces Luna. Ginny has very few lines, but does cast some spells, and is shown to be powerful.
- It's a "Krum-free zone"
- Hermione doesn't challenge Umbridge in the same way as the book, but does challenge her.
- Ron and Hermione prompt Harry to start the DA.
- Aberforth is in the film for a quick second as is one of his goats.
- Flitwick is still the "new" Flitwick from movie four.
- There are very few teachers shown, besides McGonagall, Umbridge and Trelawney
- Cho does not get "sneak" on her face.
- Gary Oldman's performance is subdued, as in PoA.
- No Phineas (though his line is in the Dumbledore escape scene)
- Ginny's patronus seems to be a phoenix; Luna's is a hare. (NOTE: The film people would never make this up; there's a 99% chance this is canon approved by Jo.)
- No Mundungus
- Black family tapestry is enormous
- Remus still has the moustache
- No "lucky you" from Ginny, no chocolate in the library scene
- Dumbledore says "I wonder how you'll catch me" to the Ministry official, then grabs Fawkes and disappears.
- The ending is not cheery.
- Kreacher is in two scenes
- Harry gets angry at Dumbledore for him not looking his way, and it elicits a surprised response from Dumbledore
- Dumbledore insists on Occlumency right away.
- Molly is very cheerry
- Percy is in the film, but his fights with his family aren't highlighted
- Harry ignores Cho for the whole film after she is the sneak; the whole DA gets detention.
- The focus in the Marauders scene is on James and Snape.
- The worst memory scene is NOT a Pensive scene; it's Harry practicing Occlumency and getting into Snape's mind. Snape stops the lessons because of things.
- DD does call Voldemort Tom, which angers him.
- The statues don't protect Harry, he is just pinned to the wall.
- Voldemort smashes glass to throw at DD and Harry, which DD blocks.
- DD helps Harry being possessed by reminding him of the differences between him and Voldemort.
- No brain room or locked room, but the Prophecy Room and Veil Room are there; in the veil room, Harry, Luna, Neville (and perhaps Ginny) are drawn to it, and Ron and Hermione aren't.
- Harry does attempt Cruciatus and fails. Voldemort tells him how he has to mean it.
- Professor Grubby Planks has a cameo in the film, at the beginning feast.
- The Christmas at Grimmauld is there but brief.
- The last line is about having "something worth fighting for," with the sextet going home for the summer.
- Right now the running time stands at two hours, thirty minutes
From LEAKY.


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0373889/board/thread/68415151

i don't care if you don't believe this.
read the posts and the guys who saw it explain scenes etc.


When they get there, they walk through the room, which is huge filled with the prophecies. They get to the spot where Harry in his nightmare, or halucination, because it happens during the day, where Sirius was being tortured by Voldemort. Thwy get to the point and no one is there. They stand around dumb founded for a moment and then I think its nevel who says, "Harry, this one has your name on it" He is looking at one of the orbs with white mist floating around in it. Harry picks it up and we hear Trelewys voice, is that her names spelling? Saying the prophecy. But not the whole thing just the first part, The death eaters arive and start closing in on them from all angles. They fight and run, and run and fight, and they end up in the big arena room, with the collums in the middle with the voices and mist coming from it, harry asks about the voices coming from it, but no one else can hear them. they seem to have lost the death eaters for a moment. there is a sudden attack that leaves harry on the ground in a ball holding the orb. everyone else has a wand to their throat, being held there by a death eater. Harry stabds up and Lucuis comes out and comes up to Harry, they talk, and the kids plead with harry not to give the orb to Lucuis, but Lucuis claims he will kill them all, and then harry will never know the connection between him and voldemort. lucuis says he will figure it out with him, only if he gives him the orb. So harry does, right as he does the order arrives and a big battle ensues. In the midst of the fighting, Lucuis hits the ground and the orb breaks. Then they continue to fight

I personally was very happy to see the use of florescent bulbs in the film. Since film does not respond to our eye, which tries to see every light as white we usually dont see that florescent light is very green looking and ugly. For example, if you put orange goggles on when skiing, everything will look orange for a while, then it will look normal, but once you take them off everything will look blue, because blue is the opposite color that your brain was adding to make it look normal.

Anyway, since film doesnt make it look white like our brains we on film see it as green. There were several scenes with this distgusting green glow on the charecters, which I personally love. So I was really happy to see that. It is very dark, there are of course day time scenes, but they are very low key, which means very little contrast, mostly cloudy, so even during the day outside there is a very gloomy feel to it. The film even starts out with a sunny day, and in an instant it gets dark, and starts to rain, and Harry and Dudley have to run into a tunnel to get out of it. That is a good way to look at the rest of the film. Everything was fine, and then in an instant it all goes wrong. great opening scene.

The only cheery place we see is Umbridges office, which is a very funny design. It's so out of control pink you cant help but laugh. But she is by far the most villainistic person throughout the greater part of the movie, so its great to see such a contrast as that she always it happy, always in pink, but she is a horrible person.

Much of it is very dark, much more like third movie, and some of the second. What comes to mind is in the second film, where they go see the giant spider, much of this movie has that feel.

When Umbridge and her goons, played by the Slytherin kids break through the wall to get into the room of requirement they bring them to Umbridges office. Snape is sent for and told to get the truth serum to use on Harry. Snape says that she used the last on it on Cho. And that he cant make anymore unless its a batch that is going to kill Harry. Harry lets Snape know that Siruis is in danger by as Snape is walking out saying to him, "Padfoot is in danger at the place." Snape tells Umbridge that he has know idea what Harry is talking about, and then leaves quickly to go get the Order. Umbridge is about to use the curse on harry that is illegal, the pain on, cru..something, its been a while since Ive read the books. Hermonie says that its illegal, and Umbridge says what Fudge doesnt know wont hurt him, and she puts the picture of him on her desk facing down. hermonie then says she will show Umbridge where the secret weapon that DD had is, and that its in the woods.
Harry has to write on the paper in his blood that he will not lie. It takes a moment bedore it shows up on his hand. This is during his solo detention.

I dont recall if they show what DD's army is being forced to write, but they are also all writing with the quills that make them write in their own blood. I assume that they are writing I must not break rules, because thats what makes sense.
They do not show Siruis' Mom at all, but they do make mention of her when Sirius is showing Harry the room that has his family tree on the wall, which has his own face burned off. He says she did that when he ran away, and that she was a wonderful woman (sarcastically, of course) We never see her. The face of Beatrix is alive on the wall, but none of the others, the FX's for that werent done yet, so it was just juxtaposed on top of the wall, so they might make some more of them come alive, and we might see his Mom on there, but at this point no, we dont.
When DD shows up and fight Voldemort there is a lot going on with the fight, but as of yet there were no sheild that they use, its mostly them just doing differnt spells to one another.

What we do see that they do to one another is as follows.

DD puts Voldemory into a water ball that is swirling all over the place.

Voldemort makes a fire dragon that flies around and tries to attack DD and Harry.

Harry is knocked over by DD with a quick hand flick with his wand so then he doest get hurt in the fight.

Vol. breaks glass all over the room and shoots it toward harry, but before it gets there DD turns it all to dust.

Tiles are falling, and breaking off the wall as if they are being hit with bullets.

light is shooting out of their wands.

Thats all I can remember, there was still a lot that was not done with it yet, so Im sure there will be more.
When Harry goes to the train to head to Hogwarts he stops and looks into the crowd. The crowd parts and disapates and there is Vol. in a Muggle suit. He moves his neck around in a circle, as if he is cracking it. He looks right at Harry. Harry breaks out of the trance and continues on. I am not sure if this was his imagination, or possibly a vision that Vol. was putting in his head.
I dont think they could have chosen a better girl to play the part, she was great in it, very cute and funny, Even though she is a charecter that is sort of a little crazy she seems to be wise in this, and knows and understands what is really important and what is not. She is sad, but understands life, her potrayal of this was dead on. She was really great. I was happy with the acting all around, and the new cast, and Evanna definitly did not disapoint, so if you are a fan of the charecter I dont think you will be unhappy with her
We hear about the OWLS early in the film once they are in school. It is not brought up again until they are actually taking the OWLs and the Weasley twins burst in and start throwing fire works everywhere.

There is no mention, or showing of anything having to do with the kids figuring out what they want their careers to be
When Harry comes back from kissing Cho he is in front of the fire telling Ron, and Herm. about it, and they ask how it was, so Harry says wet. They start to laugh at him. So he explains, well she was crying, and they laugh even harder. Ron says something about how Harry must really be bad at it then.

Cho had been crying about Cederic whose picture is up on a mirrow in the Room of Requirement, along with the picture of the Order, and Newspaper clippings.
Dumbledore in this is very to the point and no nonsense, he doesnt even speak to Harry for a long time of the movie because he is so busy with the order, and that he cant seem to bring himslef to even look at Harry.

He is very quite and to himself in this movie, and not seen that much. It seems that he is only around when he is really needed
All that we see of the prison is that its night, and lightining strikes the stone walls of the building. Beatrix walks out of the huge hole blasted in the wall, there is rubble everywhere. The building is tall, and broad, its all stone and shaped like a triangle, that is hollow in the middle, think of the pentagon in D.C. It is next to a huge waterfall. When beatrix gets out into the night she laughs like a crazy person, which...she is. The shot pulls out on the wide shot of the whole prison from above and its a photo from the Newspaper. Very cool.
The kids had been trying to think of a place that they could hold meetings, and a place that Harry could teach where they wouldnt be found by Umbridge and her goons. Nevel is thinking about it and walks by a blank wall, which starts to carve into its self an elaborate design, and then a door. He is alone.

We then see Herm. talking about the room, and why it was made as they go into it, they congradulate Nevel and talk about the room. Ron asks if he required a bathroom...if... Herm. sighs and says yes a toilet would be in this room
Well let me tell you that it is fantastic.

Harry had just been caught teaching the other students these spells and things for DD's Army. Fudge and Umbridge and some other Ministry people are there. DD says that yes it was his army and that he takes credit for it, Harry denies that, but DD says that he is just saying that trying to protect him, he winks at Harry.

Fudge starts talking about how much trouble DD is in, and then mentions Azkaban. And DD sort of laughs and says that you didnt think that I would go as they say quietly. Faux flies down off of his perch above and behind DD. when he gets above DD, he throws up his hands and as soon as he touches the bird they both explode with fire and disappear in it.

Everyone hits the ground, and as Fudge is being helped up, they gut helping him up says that you have to admit, DD has style.

It was great, and in that scene DD couldnt be cooler with the way he says that he isnt going with them.


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0373889/board/...721702#68721702

sorry for the huge post, i just copied and pasted what i've read.

http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/index.php?articleID=9592


and read the comments. Carlos saw the film and answers a lot of questions.

i also sent pms to some guys and they shed some light to my questions.

believe me or not, these are my sources.
and i don't care about it.
i don't know you.
i don't think that i am gonna earn somthnig if i posted such a topic where i lie.

just read the information in these sites.
and learn everything you want about the film.

bye!
peace & love,
evanescence.

*sniff*

I want Lupin. *sniff* I knew he woudn't be major in the movie, and I guessed about three scenes, but...no Tonks and Lupin interaction? NONE?! *sniff*

(he he...he mas the moustache... )

*sniff*

*shakes head* Oh, the pain! The humanity! *sniff*

Everything I've been looking forward to is miminal or NOT THERE!!!

*approximately 30 seconds later*

Thanks for the information evanescence (which happens to be my absolute favourite band in the world!). Now my expectations aren't too high and I won't end up walking out of the cinema.

Oh well...there's two more movies after that...

*sniff*.

What?! I want my Ronniekinns! If Hermione gets more screen time ... i'm going to scream.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

There we go, told you i was going to scream! (And i didn't use ccaptital letters!)

But this is quite a disappointment, and i agree, more Lupin is what we need. But i'm so glad about Luna being there (Well duh, she has to be) but Luna's my favourite character of all time!

If this is true ... why can't they just do the movie along the lines of the book? What's the point in changing? *Sigh*

Hmm... Interesting. I want to say i believe you on all of it but i still have a feeling that alittle of what you said will be tweeked. I'm always suprised about how directors come up with these ideas that are so different from the book. What?

I might have missed it but was there anything about Hogsmeade in there.

I'm going to have to say that i believe you becuase i have cross refrenced a number of things you said with the other people that have claimed they saw the screening. Either this is a big scam, you all worked together, or you are telling the truth. I'm going with the third one there.

-----SITH-----

Well at least Lupin is in the film though. But they should have him in there for more than three or four times. But they should have at least made the movie a lot longer than two hours and 30 minutes. they should have at least made it 3-3hour and 30 minutes. But if they didn't have enough money to make it longer, then i see why it is so short. But I thought that they changed the " I must not tell lies" part to "I must not break rules"? And they should at least have Mundungus and Mrs. Figg in there because it will tell people that don't read the book that it was Mundungus' fault for leaving Harry so that he had to use the Patronus charm. And they should put the St. Mungos part in so the people who don't read the books know what happened to the Longbottom's after what Bellatrix did to them. And I agree with Moon(I Luv you Luna) that they should stick to the book more than create different scenes like the " I must not tell lies" part, I'm sure others would agree that it would be a much better movie if it goes all by the book, and if they don't cut out so much.



*Sirius*

Ohh i can't wait for the Hermione/Ron duel..sounds interesting haha
I can't believe Lupin is only a minor *sobs* But Sirius is in it so that's okay...

yeah i heard that...maybe they changed it abck because we all complained so much?!
EDIT: here's the VTM thread on it: i will not break rules
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There are two detention scenes in the film.
One is only with Harry in Umbridge's office.
He wirtes "I must not tell lies"
Then, after the incident wher eUmbridge finds out Dumbledore's Army and she becomes the New Headmistress, all children are put in detention and they write "I must not break rules".
Cho doesn't write anything.

Believe me or not, this is the link: http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/#article:9592
READ THE COMMENTS. ALL YOUR QUESTIONS WILL BE ANSWERED. Thanks.

uggh...thnx for posting this, but it has sort of made me a bit mad that they've butchered ginny's character, yet again.
There were so many moments in OotP that they could have used to sort of foreshadow their upcoming relationship in HBP.....but like u said, no chocolate frog in the lib scene, no 'lucky you' scene, and ginny only has a few lines in the movie. Adding to that, its not even her who introduces Luna. This is beyond aggravating now. I'm guessing the 'look' that the person says that harry and ginny share once, is either the one in the train, when ron gives a furtive glance towards harry when telling ginny to chose someone 'better' next time, or when they're in the hospital with ron, where ginny imitates umbridge (i don't really remember but i think it thats what happened in the hospital scene).
Everybody who hasn't read the book and goes to watch HBP in theaters is gonna think harry falling for ginny is totally strange. It'll almost be like she popped outta nowhere!
I'm beginning to think that the directors don't trust bonnie's potential that much. Maybe that's why they're trying to keep her in the background for as long as they possibly can. Maybe they're still waiting for her to improve or get ready. Who knows. But they're definitely not gonna be able to avoid her in HBP. So they might as well have given her a chance to establish her character a little more strongly in OotP, but no. Ah well, lets see what happens.

o my god

if everything you just wrote evanesance is true then bloody hell you've just got me even more desperate to see the film

reading all that i wanna get a time machine go forward in time and see the film over and over

i';m planning on seeing the 5th film 5 times
(i saw
PS twice
COS once
POA three times
GOF four times )

oh i cant wait if thats ture then thanks

but i am annoyed bout the whole not much Ginny and Cho is the snitch? her friend isnt in it then? thats a real shame but im not going to judge until the see the film with my own eyes


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i'm getting cheast pains!!!!

[/b]they have ruined the film!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm going to scream!!
[b]ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Stuid filmakers. they ruin everything. Why is it so mucked up?
WhY!!!!!!

wow thanks for this id heard rumors about a lot of the stuff but all this info is great! it does seem like they've changed a good bit but it still sounds like its going to be great and a lot better than the other films and there's some scenes i just cant wait to see! this July is going to be the greatest month ever even if i do have to wait til after my hols to read the book ...

aww im so sad that Lupin's not in it alot *tear*
other than that, i think the movie sound pretty good.

I was a bit like: "Hey, what the heck?" when I learnt that Cho was the snitch. I didn't believe the guy but after having realised that Marietta wasn't cast I started being desperate.
But now, I have accepted the whole new concept of D.A.'s betrayal. It doesn't sound bad at all and will add a dramatic subplot to Harry and Cho's plotline, undoubtedly.
Now, if you've seen the INTERNATIONAL trailer, when Umbridge says: "Get them" near the end of the trailer, she is with Filch, the Inquisitorial Squad and Draco has caught Cho who looks sad.
So, I suppose this plotline is true, guys.


The bad/strange thing of the whole Cho/Harry relationship is that their screentime is limited and damn very small.
According to Carlos and some other guys who saw the film, they say that there is not much gravity on the relationship, the screentime is limited to some romantic stuff in the Room of Requirement and some minor scenes in the castle.
The kiss might be enjoyable to watch, they've said it is rather long.
And that then, Harry talks about it with Ron and Hermione in Gryffindor Common Room and that it is a funny scene.
But, no Saint Valentine's Date.
I died to see this onscreen.
It would have been an amazing romantic scene and I was utterly dissapointed.
Maybe it's been filmed and ight make it in the final cut?????Fingers crossed. But I doubt this.

Btw, something I noticed.
Carlos has said that the big battle in the Veil Chamber with the deatheaters and the order of the phoenix and dumbledore's army was around eight to ten minutes.
They said there was a great scene with deatheaters fighting the sextet and capturing them and harry giving lucius the prophecy orb. i'd love to see that.
but then, quite quickly, the order appears and rescues them and there is a very big fighting scene between them and the deatheaters.
BUT, we know from interviews and the sneak peaks that there is a very big fight scene with Lucius and Bellatrix VS. Harry and Sirius. THIS was NOT in the rough cut. Does this mean there is more fight to come??

I guess I'm okay with the whole 'Cho being the snitch' thing but what I'm uneasy about is the fact that a lot of people are confirming that Harry gives her the cold shoulder throughout the rest of the movie because of this. If she was veritaserumed into doing it then why is he so ****ed at her for? It wasn't her fault, she didn't run to Umbridge, she wasn't a spy so Harry's behavior to her afterwards is unwarranted and quite frankly seems immature on his part . I'm sorry but that is not a good enough reason to break up with somebody .

you know what? i'm very mad! come on, they should get peter jackson up in here. he made lord of the rings, which was 3 hours long and had everything from the books! it also won an academy award for BEST film!

somone plese call pete asap!
pretty please?
with sugar
and a cherry on top

I'm sorry, but that made my day. Cyncism is far too often funny.

Now to the movie, how in the world do you manage to make a Harry Potter movie with almost no Ron? That does not make sense.

I think the idea of using Cho is a good idea, but I don't like the idea that she was under the influence of Veritaserum. That makes Harry look like a jerk for being cold. She had no control. Whatever works, though.

All in all, I am more excited to see it than I was before. The "least disappointing" comment has me happy.

No prefects?! Aw but I really really wanted to see that scene! I also wanted to see the scene with Harry and Cho during St.Valentines day. I know its not the most exciting scene, but I think the directors are losing bits of the whole story each time they cut something out and focus more on the action-packed sense of it. Personally, I would prefer to see classic moments rather than a red spark come out of a wand in 3D form.

Mannn!! that was some information!!!! gosh i think i want to see this movie, it looks interesting!!! And i have to say that no Ginny sucks!!! but well it's a biiiiiiiiiiig book so there's nothing else we can do

I kinda like the idea of Cho being the snitch [just because i don't like her at all ] but it's kinda duller reason for the breakup O__________O... oooooooh and the "wet kiss" scene is gonna be soooo funny... i can sse it now.... hahaha

Question: Is the scene in the movie, when Harry shouts at Ron and Hermoine, b/c they didn't give him informations about what was going on while he was with the Dursleys?

I agree with akabraille that it makes no sense why Harry breaes up with Cho, when she was under the influence of Veritaserum. I don't think they should have changed it. Or Cho should have gone to Umbridge by her own will, but that wouldn't have fit the story as well, so why didn't they let Marietta (?) be the snitch? That was a bad decision.

Hate the fact that Ron has not much screen time. I didn't expected to see Lupin that much, so I'm not disappointed about that, although a little Lupin/Tonks scene would have been nice.

@sarahdaniell0ox : I also think Peter Jackson is a great director, but firstly he didn't wrote the scripts and secondly the whole ending of book 3 was missing and Tom Bombadil also and a few more things, so no, there was not everything of the books in the movies. I love the movies and I love the books, but they are not the same, just like HP.

Again?! Wht on earth do the movie people have against Ron? And Ginny? And Fred and George's escape? In fact, what about all the Weasley's? Is Bil there? Will it be OBHWF?

*sigh*



I can't wait to see that. This i want to see big time.

But one thing that's annoying me is that Ron and Hermione are there in the Voldemort/DD battle. They shouldn't be! It's not in the book! hy is it so hard to stick to the freakin' book? Great, i'm all depressed now ...

I Know like it's hard to keep absolutley every detail from the book in the film but this is supposed to be the shortest film yet, so they could have atleast put a bit more in, or atleast kept to the book and not changed things. Like Dobby for instance!! Geez, Neville finding the room of requirment, why is it always Neville to find everything now?? (Gillyweed in GoF)

I wish they had stuck to the truth a bit more with the DA, like having Kingsley modifying Marriettas memory to make her htink she hadn't attended any DA meetings...couldn't they have just done that scene but made it Cho instead if they really wanted Cho to be the sneak??

The film will probably still be a good film for what it is. Sometimes I wish I didn't read the books that way I wouldn't be so dissapointed at everything that they end up leaving out or changing in the film. I also wanted to see the Quibbler article and Umbridge getting annoyed because Harry's telling people the truth about everything and stuff. That would have been a great scene!

Though it doesn't sound like DDs exit is quite as spectacular as in the book which is kind of dissapointing, I guess I'll have to wait until I see the film myself though.

Also, It was kind of dissapointing to hear that Ron isn't focused on as much in this film.

I hope the film's still good though, I can't wait to go and see it!!

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Actually, Ginny's patronus is a H-O-R-S-E.

Hmmmm....