Do you think there is a connection between Lilly Potter and Ginny Weasely? Lilly oddly enough has red hair similar to Ginny.

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Yeah, I've noticed, they also look a lot alike.
http://images.google.com/images?q=ginny%20...sa=N&tab=wi
compared to...
http://images.google.com/images?q=Lily%20P...sa=N&tab=wi
Sorry for the short post, but thats all I've got to say.

hmm ive noticed this to. isnt it strange how harry looks just liek his father and his girlfriend looks just liek his mother hmm not really sure why yet though sorry dont really have any theoies on this yet though i will agree its strange

Wow! B/c you know, it's not like anyone else in the world has red hair! Sorry, but I just get annoyed at the idea of "Ooooh, Ginny is like Lilly b/c she has red hair! So she's going to date Harry!" Yes, they both have red hair--so what? Ron, his mother, and all of the other Weasleys have red hair as well--but I doubt there's a connection between all of them and Lilly! Maybe if Ginny also had magical green eyes on top of it, but she doesn't. Also, what about Hermione having a personality so much more like Lilly's, as far as being very smart and talented in school, at the top of her class ("brightest witch of her age", prefect and on track to be Head Girl if she's at school next year), brave and assertive, willing to stand up for the weak and unpopular to bullies, not impressed by mere popularity, etc. Gee, Hermione and Lilly really are so much alike in personality and spirit, think there's a connection?! So no, I don't think there's much to Ginny and Lilly both having the same hair color, and I think it'd be a pretty lame reason for Harry to date Ginny ("oooh, she looks like my mom! That really turns ME on!"). *sigh*

Wouldnt it be funny if Hermione Granger was related to Harry Potter. Harry does seem pretty protective of Hermione, even though they are best friends. WHat do you think. Ginny and Lily do have many simalarities.

Me

Do we really think that JKR would give us a Star Wars finish? I don't think so.

Ginny and Lily have many similarities? No, I don't think so. The only similarity I see is the red hair. Come think of it, I think that Lily's hair is more auburn where the Weasleys have this orange color to theirs - like Rupert's.

Beside's I agree with what sherrilina said in her post:
"... what about Hermione having a personality so much more like Lilly's, as far as being very smart and talented in school, at the top of her class ("brightest witch of her age", prefect and on track to be Head Girl if she's at school next year), brave and assertive, willing to stand up for the weak and unpopular to bullies, not impressed by mere popularity, etc. Gee, Hermione and Lilly really are so much alike in personality and spirit, think there's a connection?!"

To my eyes, the only connection that Ginny Weasley and Lily Potter ever shared at any point was a similiar hair colorand at one point, both held the affection of Harry Potter. Comparing these two witches is quite literally comparing Apples and Oranges.

Lily Evans was an amazingingly talented and smart witch throughout her seven years at Hogwarts. Top marks in all her classes all that time. The only flaw I've ever heard spoken about her was that she fell in love with and married James Potter. By the time she fell for him, he had done alot to change his punkish ways so that flaw would only be in the eyes of the few folks who held grudges.

If anyone in Harry's world has anything similiar to his Mother, its Hermione Granger, not Ginny. Lily and Hermione may not look similiar, Brown Hair/Eyes vs. Red Hair/Green Eyes, but thats the only difference. Both are beyond intelligent. Both are very loyal. Both are brave to face all the dangers and not quit. Its not happened yet, but if it came down to Hermione vs. Ginny for the love of Harry, little miss Ginny better hide.

Shoot, even Luna Lovegood has more appeal to Harry than Ginny. Compared to Lily and Hermione, Luna isn't as good, but if at most, just a notch below them and about a dozen notches above Ginnster.

Tanris

I don't think that Lily and Ginny are related, blood wise, seeing as Lily was muggle born. I think they are related though, in their role. Its almost a shue in that Harry and Ginny will get together again at the end of DH, just as James and Lily got together. Maybe they both have red hair to signify this impending occurence?

How is their role similar? They are complete opposites besides the fact that they both have red hair. If your looking at it from a relatonship point of view, they still are nothing alike. Lily has not always liked James in a romantic way, where as Ginny has always been obsessed with Harry. Lily and James didn't get together until what? their seventh year?? and after that they got married. Ginny and Harry got together near the end of Harry's sixth year and they broke up shortly after that. Lily was a nice woman and Ginny is just a fiery tempered pain in the...Nope, there are no comparisons and frankly, they couldn't be more different.

So whose to say that Ginny and Harry will get back together? It seems inevitable that one of them may not survive.

I like many other fans do want to see Harry die in the end, however, I would prefer to see him dead rather than married to Ginny. I mean what is JKR trying to pull here? That hero worship=true love? For me Dead Harry better than Harry/Ginny

Now coming to the point about similarities between Ginny and Harry, they are as similar as to people with red hair. That's it. Like someone pointed out even there the similarities are quite perfunctory since Lily was described as having Dark Red/Auburn hair much like Rupert Grint has in real life while Ginny has been described as having flaming red hair and so do all the Weasleys. As far as Hermione being closer to Lily, in some aspects yes especially in academics and knowledge and intelligence and perhaps even bravery. But from what we know of Lily, she was more independent, more certain and confident of herself as in having lesser insecurities, vivacious and outgoing. Hermione is a tad insecure, especially when concerned with her studies, she would never talk back to the professors like Lily used to do with Slughorn.

Just like Harry, though he looks almost exactly like James, he is quite different from his father. Of course they share mannerisms, but Harry is far more mature, shuns attention, not as inclined academically, serious than either of his parents. Of course his childhood has a lot to do with what he's today.

well its impossible that there is a blood connection because lilly is muggleborn and ginny is pureblood. i do liek the fact that harry looks liek his father nd ginny his mother because its kind of like theyre alive again(maybe not but still).

I know exactly what you mean. I have always said that I would rather Harry be dead than with red (Ginny).

Besides, it can't be said enough that Ginny's only similar feature to Lily is the red hair, albeit not the shade of red! It is definitely Hermione that shares more similarities to Lily. Some say that it is Ginny's fiesty behavior that makes her alot like Lily, but to me, Ginny is just a girl with a fiery temper that comes across as immature and selfish. Ginny is nothing like Lily was.

omg i totally disagree with you guys
i tihink the two were made for each other. with harry looking like his father so much, though he don't really act much like him but he does lol sorry i know thats confusing but i hope you get my drift anywayz, and ginny looking like lily potter it has to mean something.
i'm pretty sure ginny would die for her child if she were in the same situation as lily had been when harry was a child. and ginny is a bit fiesty but i don't think i would rather see harry die then be with ginny..
i think they had something special,
i sure do hope they get back togeter

but i don't see how you guys are making a connection from hermione to lily potter. i just don't see that one lol

I can perfectly understand what you mean. I cannot see any connection between Ginny and Lily Potter either. It's not just Ginny who would die for her kid, any mother would and whether Ginny is more likely to die for her child in wake of "a clear choice to escape or save her life" than any other mother is debatable.

But the fact is that Harry getting together with Ginny should not have to be explained with Ginny-Lily-Red similarity. Other than red hair there appears to be no similarity between the two and I have to disagree with you that they are made for each other. In fact they are made disastrous for each other. Ginny goes from nobody to pretty in one chapter? What was JKR trying to pull here? And as far as comparison between Hermione and Lily go, they are only to suggest that Hermione has more in common with what we know of Lily than Ginny, but it's also evident that Lily was quite different in many other ways and Ginny-Lily-red argument would be the same thing as Hermione-Lily-Muggle Born. That means Hermione is more like Lily because both are muggle born. And as you point out that Harry is so much like his dad and we know that James married a muggle born, so does that imply that Harry too will marry a muggleborn (Hermione)? Are you willing to accept that?

Anyway, I reiterate that I would rather have Harry dead than with Red as Dumbledore's Widow so eloquently put in. Thanks for that one ;-).

Well, the whole Weasley family has red hair! I don't think there is any similarities except the red hair. I mean, JKR said that Ginny is a talented witch, but so is Hermione. Hermione is an extremely talented witch and is similar to Lily in that way. I don't know what point i am trying to make except that it isn't only Lily that characters resemble.

I mean, then every witch or wizard with red hair would have to have a correlation with Lily. The whole Weasley family.

[quote]mayfair-Ginny goes from nobody to pretty in one chapter?[quote]

I dont think that ginny went from nobody to pretty in one chapter.Personally i think ginny was introduced as a more pretty girl throughout the last two books.In OotP she is said to be going out with michael corner,so she cant be too bad if he later got cho chang.Then on the train in HBP pansy parkinson even says shes good lookin.

I dont see how you cant see a connection between ginny and lily.Lily was stated as a gifted witch, especially at charms.Ginny too is a gifted witch and how do we know she aint no good at charms?she might even be the best in her year,but thats just my opinion and if you want you can throw it out the winder if you wanna.

I am nobody to throw someone's opinions out the winder, you are entitled to your opinions as I am to mine, but I do believe that if we are in an argument over a point of view, it helps if one can back up their assertions with some evidence. We knew Lily was gifted in charms, and like you said we do not know that Ginny ain't no good in charms-in fact no one has made that claim so far, at least I never said so in my posts. But does that automatically imply that Ginny is as gifted in charms as Lily was? Or that she's the best in her year as Lily was? There is not even an iota of evidence to support that. Of course I may have missed those in the books, and would be grateful if you could point them out to me.

While we are talking about comparisons, take a loot at this- Lily gifted in charms, we know Hermione is gifted in charms; Lily dab hands at potions, Hermione a dab hand at potions, Lily an extremely talented muggleborn witch, Hermione an extremely talented muggleborn witch. It can go on and on. But is Hermione just like Lily? No, as I mentioned in one of my previous posts, Hermione is never as confident as Lily appeared to be or that Lily never came across as insecure. Not only that Hermione is never known to banter with professors like Lily used to with Slughorn.

I mentioned this in one of the other threads on Ginny, a quote from a very wise person

"Every author needs to invent a lot about her, unlike Hermione of whom we know a lot. In a way it makes the job easier because you can make Ginny anything you want her to be."

I believe that holds true for fans a swell, since not much is known, the gaps are filled in with assumptions and imaginations. It's easier to write on a blank slate than to rub off what's already written and rewrite again.

ok, ill elaborate a little more if u want me too.In the books we know Ginny is gifted at the bat-bogey hex.i relate hexes, curses,jinxes,etc. with charms as they see to be a lot alike to me.i just made that relation in my head and didnt think to tell about it.
And with your argument about hemione being good at ptions, im just sayin, who are we to say that ginny isnt likewise as good?Thats all ive got to say.




Jamethy

Again, if you read my post carefully, this is not about whether Ginny is good or bad at any subject especially the ones Lily was adept at. The fact is that just having similar talents does nto make you like someone else. There are millions of good guitarists out there, does that make them all like Roger Waters or Jimmy Hendrix? Just because two people play guitar doesn't make them like each other and that's the point I am trying to make here.

Many tend to take an extremely shallow and shortsighted view of Ginny being like Lily just because Lily too had red hair, forgetting the fact the Lily came from an entirely different family background and her hair was a different shade than Ginnys- Ginger/Auburn for Lily to Flaming Red for Ginny. If hair colour is the only criteria for similarity, then you might just saw that Emma Watson should have played Luna, since she too has dirty blond hair and so is like Luna. While comparing two people, one must know much about them both before we arrive at conclusions and the fact remains that we do not know much about either Lily or Ginny, with the books being so Harry centric.

*GAH*
YOU ALL!
Ginny has ALOT in common with Lilly Potter.
Even Jk Rowling said so. Omg. Everyone's throwing this one down without even looking ths up, calling it riddiculous and such. Here, hold on.


Or, the whole thing.


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Might as well give you the whole thing, if we're going to continue with this discussion.

^^ JKR says Lily was popular like Ginny is now, does that mean that Ginny is like Lily in every way? If you do not wish to continue the discussion, you are free not to, but it takes much more than that to convince many about Ginny being Lily in a reincarnated form as many Ginny supporters especially those who ship H/G claim. I reiterate that none of those who insist that Ginny is like Lily have come up with one piece of evidence to support the fact except that both have red hair and that both are popular, with admirers in all houses including Slytherin. Well Cedric was extremely popular in all houses and so was Sirius does it mean that they are like each other. In some aspects yes, a reincarnation, no. Like I said earlier, being a popular guitarist does not make you Jimi Hendrix and a formula one driver doesn't become Michael Schumacher

Mayfair makes a good point when she said, "... those who insist that Ginny is like Lily have [not] come up with one piece of evidence to support the fact except that both have red hair and that both are popular, with admirers in all houses including Slytherin." ..."

I would like chapter and verse from the books that say that Ginny is like Lily. Forget the red hair, that argument has been beaten into the ground! We all know that they were both redheads.

Thanks for supporting me there Dumbledore's Widow. I couldn't have put it better than that about the red head thing been beaten into the ground.

Oh and despite my very cheesy sounding username, I am very much male ... maybe in my posts I come across as an aggressive female. Hmm guess I should give that some thought, but if it gets my point across why not

No I don't think there's a connection between them, sorry. Although red hair isn't the most common hair colour out of brown and dark brown, it's still not rare. Hair color doesn't really matter a whole lot. It's like saying that I'm connected to the Weasleys because I have flaming red hair just like the lot of them ( I do actually, but that's beside the point.) Hair colour is hair colour and that's all there is to it. There are still things like personality that we don't know about the two of them. Sure we see Ginny a lot, but we don't know every aspect of her life like we know the trio's. We don't know hardly anything about Lily, so saying their connected just based on their hair isn't a smart idea.

Exactly right. Comparing them is like comparing apples and oranges. Sure they're both round and juicy, but they are completly different fruits.


First of all, knowledge of hexes, jinxes, and curses are apart of defense against the dark arts. And second of all, I would hardley call Ginny gifted just because she is said to be very good at one curse. A curse that we don't ever see her do, but hear from other characters.


Oh really? Okay, so they both have red hair, they're popular, and....sure why not add that they both are gifted witches. Even then, that's hardley enough to be classified as a alot.


Well, this isn't the first time that she stated something that I found hard to believe.

i'm sorry...but I don't think lily & ginny are similar...I mean ok, even though they are both gryffindor's, have red hair & are somewhat talented....that could be a coincidence, not necasarily there to prove a connection between lily & ginny...

I don't think that Ginny and Lily would be related in anyway except for the fact that they both stand up for what they believe in.

Yeah okay, Lily and Ginny believe in entirely different things. But they still stick up for things that are important to them as individuals. People are saying that Lily is nothing like Ginny. But how are we supposed to know what she was like? The only thing we have actually witnessed is in the pensieve. Lily was sticking up for Snape. Ginny sticks up for Luna. This is because they both see it as 'the right thing to do.'

We don't even know the entire circumstances of that day we witnessed in the pensieve. James and Lily could have had a huge fight before. It is also said that Lily was cheeky, and had a fiery temper just like Ginny. But she may have only been 'fiery' because James Potter was getting on her nerves.

We don't know anything about Lily Potter/Evans. But I really do doubt that her and Ginny could be related! Imagine that...Harry going out with his relative.

I don't think that Ginny and Lily would be related in anyway except for the fact that they both stand up for what they believe in.

Yeah okay, Lily and Ginny believe in entirely different things. But they still stick up for things that are important to them as individuals. People are saying that Lily is nothing like Ginny. But how are we supposed to know what she was like? The only thing we have actually witnessed is in the pensieve. Lily was sticking up for Snape. Ginny sticks up for Luna. This is because they both see it as 'the right thing to do.'

We don't even know the entire circumstances of that day we witnessed in the pensieve. James and Lily could have had a huge fight before. It is also said that Lily was cheeky, and had a fiery temper just like Ginny. But she may have only been 'fiery' because James Potter was getting on her nerves.

We don't know anything about Lily Potter/Evans. But I really do doubt that her and Ginny could be related! Imagine that...Harry going out with his relative.

Who cares if you found what JK Rowling said "hard to believe", if she says something is true then that is the bottom line, she is the be all end all of Harry Potter whatever she says goes, she is the only one who's input counts in the books.

Yes, JKR is the be all and end all of the Harry Potter series and as the creator it's her will that runs. Just because she decided upon something, doesn't mean that ll fans have to blindly endorse her views. Most of us have out own take on Harry Potter series and while it may not matter to others, it sure does to us. If we do not disagree or differ on various points, then why have forums at all. Just wait for the next JKR interview and see what happens. That's the flimsiest logic I have come across.

The forums are there because people share differing opinions on the way series has progressed and many of us do not agree with the way JKR has portrayed things and put forth our views on how WE WOULD HAVE LIKED IT TO BE. If you wish to follow JKR blindly, so be it, but to dismiss all other inputs and views as countless is disrespectful and uncalled for. If you do not care for what other people feel, then perhaps you should be prepared for something similar direcetd to you when you post your views in any thread.

i never said you have to blindly follow what she says i'm just saying that we have to accept what she says because unless she changes her mind thats wat the books are going to be like whether we like it or not

I guess you're missing the point here. Of course, most here accept that fact. After all it's JKR who's writing the books and not us and there's little we can do to make her change her mind. In fact that's not the intention of many uot there, save for few. But we as fans and members of Veritaserum community have the right to differ with whatever she says or rights and the right to express our views here. And that's what we are doing. I disagree with her views on Ginny and Harry-Ginny pairing and I am making my views clear without insulting her or her choices or for that matter anyone else on the forum. If you disagree with my views, you come up with a counter argument other than "JKR said so, so this is gonna happen". That cannot be used as an excuse for any debate. You may always say that "JKR said so and I agree with her, because ...", but saying that "JKR said so, and so all should bow down and accept it" is not the right way to go about things. Of course that's my personal opinion and I do not claim to speak for anybody else on the forum and neither should you.

Except that, besides the good points of MayFair, there's also the fact that JK says that Lily is like Ginny in that she is POPULAR, not that they're like each other as people! She only brings up Ginny as an example of a popular person liked by more than one person....if she were to say something like "Ginny and Lily are so alike in so many ways" maybe, but she only says they have popularity in common--and there are a lot of popular people both in the books and real life....and they aren't all like Lily! In short, the only similarities b/c Ginny and Lily are very shallow ones--hair color and popularity. I think if Ginny was really so talented (as talented or more so than Hermione) than it would have been stressed more also--I don't think she's stupid, but as far as we've seen in the books, she's certainly not the brightest witch of her age....

what the heck is it with everyone saying hermione is more like lily than ginny?

Ginny:
smart
red head
loyal
popular
loves harry(not in great friend way that hermione does)
in griffindoor

Hermione:
smart
loyal
in griffindoor

See the difference? ginny is more like lily than hermione!

Ginny:
smart- we have no canon on that. No where has Ginny's grades ever been brought up, so we cannot come to that conclusion.
Red head- someone already countered that argument stating that their hair color was different shades. Lily is aurburn red and Ginny fiery red.
loyal- anyone can be loyal, so therefore there is no special similarity there
popular- only thing based on canon that can be considered a comparison
loves Harry I'm not even going to address that....
in gryffindor- of course

In actuality, Ginny and Lily have nothing alike besides being popular and red headed, although not even the same shade. As for Hermione, you have missed several other qualities of her character that her and Lily share. They are both muggle-born and considered the brightest witches of their age, canon. And as Sherrilina said "brave and assertive, willing to stand up for the weak and unpopular to bullies, not impressed by mere popularity". Hermione definately has more in common with Lily than Ginny does, and if you had read other people's posts, you would have seen that.

Good eye! that is definitely not a coincidence. You're right, they do look alot alike, and they are probably similar, but we can't know for sure because we don't really know what Lily's teenhood personality was, but the connection is probably nothing important. they started liking each other far earlier than Harry's parents.

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Don't be so sure about Harry and Ginny getting back together. What they had wasn't love. Their relationship was nothing more than that of snog partners. It never ceases to amaze me that there are some people who have the nerve to say to others, "to deal with it" and to "suck it up". Perhaps they should take their own advice! As for me, so long as there are people who belive that H/G is a done deal, I will be around to counter it.

You are all going batty again .STOP FIGHTING !! I personally think that H/G remaind of J/L ...in many different ways . They both got together in they'r last year for exemple .Gin and Lily have some things in common and Hermione and Lily have som things in common but non of them is like Lily ...and that's that !!!
And Dumbledore's Widow please don't start with a drama for a thing ...not everybody thinks like you and in the end is what JKR thinks and not somebody else. And a nother thing that is was clearly in the book ...Harry and Gin wasn't just snog partners (Ginny and Dean were ) , is clearly that HArry cares for Gin a lot ...like a friend and a little more .
Now please don't fight again !

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Well if you do not wish to argue, then be my guest no one is forcing you into that. You are entitled to your won views as others are to theirs. Many of us have problems with Ginny's character and with Harry-Ginny pairing and we are discussing our opinions in a civilized manner without insulting others. It's something that you do not seemed to have learned and before you go about telling people to suck it up, think for a moment that in your post you come across as someone who does not wish to entertain any other notion other than what you believe in and throw a hissy fit if someone doesn't agree with you. If you feel this is silly, you are free to step aside and let others to get on with their discussions in the proper way. If you have some valid points to support your points I would look forward to seeing them here.

I would like everyone to please calm down and return to the topic. It is against the rules to retaliate when members post so as to create a hostile environment, so please don't fall for such bait. It really does our forums a disservice. This place is for sensible HP discussions, not shipping wars! Remember, this is about similarities between Ginny and Lily - NOT a ships thread. I understand it's relevant, but please keep it to a minimum if you can't react objectively.

Back on topic then, thanks.

They did not both get together in their last year. Harry and Ginny got together in Harry's sixth year and broke up shortly after that where as James and Lily got together in their seventh. And that was only one point (that was disproven) out of the many different ways you claim to see similarities, so it would be nice to hear of your other examples.

But as for me, I perosnally do not see any similarities between the two relationships. Harry looks a lot like his father, but he certainly doesn't act the same. He isn't arrogant nor does he take part in public ridicule. Moreover, Lily hadn't always liked James and it wasn't until their seventh year that they started to become friendly, where as Ginny had always "loved" Harry and he failed to notice his "feelings" for her until the sixth book.


True.

Again, Ginny's hair isn't even the same shade of red--where do we get this "they look so much alike!" from? Not all red-haired girls look the same, and we have no idea what Lily looked like (we don't even truly know what Ginny looks like for that matter), so how can you claim that they look a lot alike? And yes, Ginny has hero-worshipped Harry like a proper little fangirl since book 1, but where do you get Harry liking her back more than "Ron's sister whom I largely ignore" "far earlier than Harry's parents"?


I don't think stating that just because two people have a similar hair color that they are NOT alike is batty, lol. Besides the inaccurate "they both went out their final years" I too would like to hear these supposed similarities between them....and in a discussion forum everyone is entitled to their own opinions about the book, so Jk's opinion is not what matters in the end...finally, what makes you think that Ginny and Dean were snog partners and not H/G? We see Ginny and Dean kissing once--just like H/G, and Dean acting the gentleman with her, the few glimpses we've seen of them....just like in the few glimpses we'e seen of H/G it's been only shallow, lustful "chest monster" and flirting stuff (before the cheesy, cliched Spiderman 2 break-up--in which they admit how much they LIKE (not love!) each other! ). Sure, Harry cares somewhat for Ginny beyond say, what Ron cared for Lavender (though again, how do you know what Dean felt for Ginny? Poor guy could have had his heart broken by the vixen...), but there's still not much evidence to indicate feelings for Ginny deeper than mere attraction/crush--and vice versa with Ginny re: Harry. So no, it is NOT clearly in the book that H/G weren't merely "snog partners"--there is lots to indicate that Ginny is simply, Harry's "good times girl"--we even see her YAWN and leave the room when the conversation turns toserious, important matters, like say, VOLDEMORT?! So yeah, D's W has a point, it is not clear that H/G is any deeper in feeling than lust with maybe some concern thrown in...certainly not love....another way in which H/G is not exactly J/L....

i dont think that ginny looks or has any similarities with lily except for the fact that they both have red hair but hayyy potter and ginny weasly are meant to be because if a girl has liked a person for over five years it is inevitable they will get together:heart:

Well gee, I've liked Dan Radcliffe for over five years--think I've got a shot??!!

Seriously, most crushes don't pan out--not a really convincing reason for a couple to automatically happen...even within the books, Neville clearly has a crush on Ginny--so according to your logic, shouldn't that mean that they will get together as well?

Well I think that Lilly and Ginny are similar in the way that they are both free spirits. They both stand up for what they believe in. They also don't want people protecting them:
" 'I don't want you to make him apologize,' Lily shouted,"

But while we are on the subject of Harry's gang of friends and their similarities with the Marauders, has any one else noticed that Ron and James are very similar in personality and actions. Both Ron and James were outraged at Hermione/Lilly being called Mudbloods. Both stuck up for Hermione/Lilly. Both are very loyal. Sirius says that Jame's parents took him in as a second son. The Weasley's took Harry in as a seventh son.
Also, a bit more superficial, both are described to sweep their hair back to make it look like they were just flying.

Hmm...alright first whats it matter if ginny or hermione is like lily? or if harry's like james?
I could be my dads twin no joke, but im my own person and i make my own choices that are very different from my dads.
What does it matter if hermione is smart like lily?
or if ginny has red hair like lily?
they are each their own person, they make their own choices, and theyre all different from their parents.
Yeah alot of kids grow up and take on similarities as their parents but that doesnt mean they are exactly like them.

I think ginny and harry is a great match. ginny's been a backround character (pretty much) since book one, she pops up here and there but other than that we dont know exactly what her personality is like or anything else...we know shes got a thing for harry, and shes rons little sister...bout it.

and when it comes to James bein in love with lily since the start of school, so what?
sometimes attraction doesnt just come right away, sometimes it just...BAM!
exactly like it did with harry.
he didnt really know he was starting to like her until he saw her kissing Dean, and sometimes thats the way it is, especially when harry isnt really paying that much attention to ginny or any other girl.
out of 6 years hes liked 2 girls...cho...ginny..
for one his life is so full of ''trying to save the wizarding world'' that he doesnt really got that much time for girls.
i know by the time i was 16 i had more g/fs and ex g/fs than i could count, i also just started to like a girl that ive known since the 5th grade and who use to be my best friend.
The attraction doesnt have to be there right away, once he actually started hanging out with ginny and spending time with her he started to devolep his crush.
he never really thinks about ginny in the first place and he never really hangs out with her, she pops up here and there, and when he actually started to hang out with her he started to take notice
and if you read the last few pages of the half blood prince, ginny pretty much explains it to you.

it goes something like hermione told me to relax and get on with life, go out with a few other people and relax around you, then maybe youd take more notice if i was a bit more myself.

really...i dont see how people can see hermione and harry together...now i aint dogging your veiws...but...
The new ginny i think suits harrys personality really well...he prob wouldnt have started to like her if it didnt.
Hermiones never shown any attraction to harry...not in my opinion, shes worried about him but shes one of his best friends, my lady friends all worry about me does that mean they each secretly have a crush on me? and are just flirting with my best friend to make me jelous and to make me take some notice?
If hermione and harry had a thing or would have had a thing it would have cropped up by now im sure, theyre alone quite a bit, when ron and hermione fight, and hermione is like a sister to harry, and harrys like a brother to hermione.

sometimes it takes time for an attraction to come, and with harry being so busy in all his other years and ginny still being pretty much uptight around him until the end of the 5th book...i can understand why it was sprung on us in just a few chapters...cause thats pretty much what happens with a crush or attraction...it just comes to you.


i dont really see how a connection between any of them to their parents or to each others parents plays a role in their attraction or anything else really...i see from what people think that just because someone is smart like another thats apparently a connection...hmm so all smart people in this world are alike? and same with the red hair....i disagree with everybodys connection thing. but i think ginny and harry are good for each other, their personalities fit together...and just because they do, dont mean either is like their parents or like the others parents...or has to like someone whos like their parents.

Yes...hmmm...well, thanks for the long winded explanation of how well suited Harry and Ginny are for eachother and the excuse for its sudden and rather randomly hook up, but that's not even the point. Like you said, the connection between Ginny and Lily, and Harry and James doesn't even matter, which is what a lot of us were basically saying. We were just trying to refute the claim that the Ginny and Lily connection (although there really is none) is not enough basic reason for her to be with Harry. By using Hermione and finding certain similarities between her and Lily, and going with the Harry/James Ginny/Lily theory, it should then be Harry and Hermione instead. It was just an argument, not that we really meant it, although we do support the ship (Harry and Hermione).

i personally thinka ll of u obsess over the little things too much. I like hermione and ginny both. They are sweet, and smart and pretty and all u people can think about is if they'd make a good girlfriend for harry. Honestly! AND anybody that wishes harry to die is a cruel, awful person. I may not be old enough to understand everything, but still, come on! you want the main character to die!!! what a bunch of idiots!!! I think anybody that is cruel enough to want harry to die is somebody that would make a fabulous death eater

I think that the people playing ginny and lilly do look similer... but thats film... who says JKR had any intention of them lloking alike... and its not a rare feet the ginny has red hair, all the weasleys do.

If anything, i would say its kinda strange that Harry loves ginny, who bares resembelence to his mother...

But there is no resemblance besides the two having red hair, so no, it is not very strange. If Harry fell for a girl with dark hair and glasses, would we be comparing her to James? Of course not, because besides the physical features, there are no other similarities. It is actually quite absurd.

Harry did not fall for a girl with resemblance to his mother, he just merely fell for a girl with red hair.