Yay!! It's our 4th thread for SPELL!

New to SPELL? First Welcome to LupinLand! What are us crazy cats going on about?

1) SPELL stands for Society for the Prevention of [JKR] Ending Lupin's Life

2) Our Official tagline : Where werewolves are people too

3) Official Lupin Day : November 1st (though the celebrations are likely to last all week)

4) We have 4 affliates:
** S.O.S. (Squash Old Snape / Save Our Snape) - for or anti, whichever takes your fancy
** In Sirious Denial Support Group - for Lupin's best mate, Sirius!!
** C.U.B. (Crush Umbridge Brigade) - because she made dear Remus' life so difficult
** M.O.O.O.P. (Muggles Of the Order Of the Phoenix) - For the dedication to all of those valiant order members.

The 'silver' rules
Number One:
While the star of the show is David/Remus here at Lupinland, members are also allowed to talk about the rest of the Marauders and Snape as well as Umbridge. But they must never steal the lime light of course. That belongs to Remus

Number Two
The mention of the "D" word is forbidden here at SPELL, unless in reference to Umbridge or Snape, or Peter as well I guess. We want Remus' life to be happy from now on and this President won't go thinking nasty horrid things that may be lurking round the corner.

Number Three
As mentioned above it's cool to talk about the marauders but not at great length. If you want to talk about them there are other topics/clubs to do so in (Just check the master list )

The Team

President : Lil' old me. Ygraine(Helen)
Honorary Member : Louise
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SPELL Noticeboard! Yeah, we have one, check it out, it's all cool and funky and in a bad need of an update that i will get around to do one day!

And one last thing. The SPELL badge made by Zyra for to put in siggies if any of you want to

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Now, in our last thread we were talking about whether or not we thought that Lupin and Umbridge would have a confrontation. The last page of conversation is Here. Continue and enjoy!

Helen.

Oh, marvelous happy day! The new SPELL thread is up. (The stupid cat is doggedly trying to lick my fingers as I type this. . . what a strange, strange creature. . .) Anyways, thanks, Helen, for setting it up! (Now, on with your fanfic! <ahem>)

So, about the Lupin/Umbridge thing. You know, he was pretty darned livid in the Shrieking Shack, wasn't he? I need to get my book. . .but I didn't remember him being so outwardly violent until I went back and read it looking for something about Sirius, then I saw Remus and thought, "dang. . .that boy has some pent up anger, for sure!" Anyways . . . I think we've seen it. However, I don't think that he would react to Umbridge that way. I know she's viscious and maliscous and vile, but her attacks on him are never personally directed, you know? They're against werewolves in general, whereas Peter's attack was the most personal. He caused the deaths of his best friends. I think he'd be heated in an argument with her, sort of. He's kind of resigned himself to his lot in life. He's bowing out gracefully at the end of the third book because he knows it will do no good to stand up for himself as a person when all people will see is a werewolf.

That was one strange paragraph. . .

My official stance is no. I don't think there will be a confrontation between Remus and Umbridge. I am hoping against hope that Umbridge won't make more than a mention as it is!

Yeah..... shiny new thread glad to be a part of it...
I dont see Lupin getting angry enough to harm Umbridge. I just dont see someone like Umbridge making him upsest about who he is. He has a cool intellect and I admire the fact that he is not swayed by the baser things someone lesser may be provocked by, like Passerby said and she makes a good point...
Umbridge will never see past the fact that Lupin is only a warewolf when there is a full moon, which is what one night of the month?... makeing him more a human than warewolf....IMHO...I hope if she does come up in DH that it is a short visit and I really hope she gets...what did Uncle Vernon call it?... oh yes... the old one two...LOL

yeah!! new shing thread!! helloooooo

okay moving on....

that is a very good point passerby. it is a shame though... that people see him that way and don't see who he really is because he's only a werewolf for atiny part of the month and that is not who he really is, is it?? i hate when people judge others by one event or matter... i mean yeah Lupin might be fictional and everything but it goes on in the real world anyways.

i guess i hope Umbridge doesn't get in the way on the next book but J.K has said she is in it, hasn't she?? well anyways let's hope they don't cross each path at all because she will probably hurl some verbal rubbush about him and he would just what?? stand there and take it?
*shruggs shoulders*
to be honest, i would do that. just stand there and take it. i do that anyways.

I promise to do better in this thread, I really do! Congrats SPELL for making it to Thread Four! Yay!

Lupin has been dealing with people only seeing him as a werewolf for pretty much his entire life, so, of course, when people like Umbridge come along it doesn't phase him as much as it used to. I can only imagine what he did when he was younger and got taunted by other people, it's hard to imagine but I think that would have been his only violent stage in life. Then he would have had to realize that when he reacted violently, that was how people wanted him to react and it just gave them more of a reason to make fun of him. Now he reacts how he does because of life lessons. Which is a very good choice because if he reacted violently toward Umbridge, I don't even want to imagine what she would do to him.

I really don't think Umbridge will have much of a role in Deathly Hallows, and certainly not much of a chance to hurt Lupin any more. I think her time has past, but you never know.

Lupin probably wouldn't do much to her because he has gotten used to it. Which by the way is terrible. He would have gotten teased a lot in his young life but i don't think he got violent. That kind of contradicts my other comment but oh well

Unfortunately, if anyone, espcially someone who is part werewolf like Lupin, even yelled at Umbridge there would be severe consequences, she would probably make it sound like he got mad because of the werewolf in him and get like all people who are part werewolf to have like a sign or badge saying that they are and not be allowed in resteraunts and such.

Umbridge also probably won't even be in DH. Wow, I agreed with everything you said Hilly!


P.S. YAY!!!!!!!!! NEW THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

New threadness!!!

Well, I think they'll meet. Even just briefly. I don't know why, but I think it'd kust be a waste for JKR to re-introduce Half-Breed Hater Extraordinaire without a little confrontation with an actual Half-Breed (ugh, that is such a horrible term!). Umbridge met Firenze--briefly--and that was fun. Well, it showed her up anyway.


No, no...I'm pretty sure Jk said she'd make a re-appearence, Cobra and Hilly. And if she's re-appearing, then her role won't be necessarily major, but it won't be all that minor, in my opinion.

Farewell! (I saw Black beauty yesterday!!! Only because david's in it, but all the same! *sniff* Poor Jerry...)

I just had a rather nasty thought. Y'know how Lupin wouldn't have Tonks beause he's 'too dangerous' and, I don't know, would bite her or something?...

...What if Lupin DID bite Tonks? Ga!

Baz that got me thinking. It also created a possible, however unlikely and whacked theory, but its possible. What if Tonks got herself bit or took a potion (if possible) to get herself half-werewolf so that Lupin would be with her and not too dangerous?

Personally I dont think it would happen but how about you guys?

well i have always had little sort-of stroies about that run through my head. so erm...

i think as much as Lupin would hate it Tonks wouldn't sort-of mind as much. it's just she doesn't care at all that he is a werewolf and she wants to be with him. i'm guessing if he did bite her then she would try and convince him that it was all ok and that she didn't hate him for what he had done because she knows he can't control it. so i guess she would see it as not so much a curse but more of a "thing" that shows how much she loves him for who he is and it shows how much she doesn't care about what he might be once a month.
i can't see her going off into the sunset, waiting for moon to show and get bit but i guess...well in a dream she followed Lupin and watched as he transformed and then he saw her...he bite her... she didn't seem to care....
i have no idea...

What a horrible thought ...I think Lupin takes the wolfsbane potion so he can be managed when there is a full moon or something like that, Im not sure how it works. I dont think she could talk him into it either...Tonks might be able to postion herself but it would have to be very well thought out, I dont think she would get away with just showing up to let him bite her...It is a very romantic idea though Im hoping he just comes to his senses at Bill and Flures wedding though, thats what Id put my money on. That is what this series is all about, Love being the most powerfull weapon we possess, not only Harry but all of us, to defeat evil.

well now that you mention it, Lupin probably will except Tonks' trust in him and be together. After seeing that Bill and Fleur can do it. About love being the most powerful weapon, I don't think so. How is Tom so powerful if love, the one thing he doesn't have is the most powerful weapon?

That was actually a good question or it could be just my biased because I hate love.

Cobra first let me say Im sorry you hate love you are really missing out...Second Have you read the books?? It clearly stated that LOVE is how Harry will defeat the Dark Lord it is explained in all the books, and the prophecy... He will have powers the dark Lord knows not ...The one thing LV doesnt have...DD has said it time and time again I dont have any books on hand if any one else knows any other references off hand please help me out.

'Righty...

Um, I think we're all getting a little off topic here, talking about the in's and outs of the prophecy. There are other threads you can discuss that in if you want to, and also how Harry's meant to defeat LV with the power of Love. (No i don't mean the song )

The topic we're currently conversing is if Tonks chose to become a half/werewolf by choice so she wouldn't be vunerable around Remus.

However, as this seems to be creating sparks i think i'll redirect it if no one minds


In GOF (well at the beginning of anyway) it says that Sirius was in a foriegn country (indecated at least) do you think that Remus went out to join him? Or do you think it may have been the other way round? Or do you not think they met up at all?

Also, tied in I guess. Do you think that Remus has travlled any where in his years? If so, where do you think he went? Or what his favourite country may be?

I think that they didnt meet up at all or i think Sirius would have mentioned it to Harry.


Well im sure he travelled a lot with his sitchuation(sp)/werewolf. He was probably like everywhere in europe. I think his favourite place would be Germany because I like Germany.

Firstly let me apoligize for my dunderheadedness....and being off topic Ill be more carefull. Now theres questions to be answered.


I would like to think that since they were friends again, that maybe Remus took the time to get some fun in the sun and get reaquanted with Sirius, after all the persucution in Remus' life and after 12 years in azkaban in Siruis' case, it would have been nice for both of them. I hope they spent some time in Burmuda or the Medditeranian(sp?) that would have been great.

Im not sure Remus travels, does he have money to travel? I think it is mentioned in the books that he has an extremly hard time finding a job because of his furry little problem? If he did have a favorite place it would have to be warm and bright, I would think he would very much dislike anywere too dark and gloomy. Im not to familiar with Europe but I still like the idea of the Medditeranian(sp?)

Let me just start of my saying my question about what if Lupin did bite Tonks had nothing to do with any weird, wacked-out love pacts with her deciding to be half werewolf or something so she'd be safe with him or whatever. It was mean to be, what if he did bit her accidently without her intending to be bitten and without him intending to bite her.

But that's in the past, so I'll just devour these next questions!


Nah, Lupin didn't meet with him or anything. How ganderous would that have been! Plus, Lupin woud have had troubles of his own. he'd have been helping to get the OotP back together, and possibly even getting new members (ie. Weasleys).



He he, the UMFC had a question like this, and I'll say what I said then: he might have travelled to other countries for the Order (would he have had enough money for a fun trip?). For some reason, ever since I read a fanfic on The Full Moony website, I've had this image of him in Germany. I dunno, I can just picture him in germany. or maybe a really northern European country, like Russia or Scandinavia.

Don't ask me why.


Here, here!

let me start with ...
Baz!! you picture is great!! doesn't the cover look fab! okay off topic.... on with Lupin!!


i don't think so. he would not have had the time. he would have been spying for the order and working for the order...would they have risked meeting up? i doubt.


i don't think he has ever had the time or the money to. maybe he did before he was bitten and he went with his family. i can't see him traveling because of his problem. once they knew they was cure was they any need? well i think that no... but i have said this before ... i think he would like New Zeland... but i won't be going through all that again

Yay! You like my picture!

Anyway, with the countries. If he has been to another country for the Order, what would he be doing there? Recruiting people? but It'd have to be an English-speaking country, or no one would undestand him...unless there's a spell to make you bi-lingual or understand any language or something...

Gah, rambling. Just a thought...




I keep thinking about the full moon on the back of the cover for DH (er, English edition). What does that mean? Why is there a full moon? I remember the full moon on the cover of PoA (er, English edition again) and, incidently, Lupin and him being a werewolf was pretty darn important. Maybe the full moon over what is probably Hogwarts means that Lupin'll do something big there, or something big will happen to him there, or something big at least invilving him will happen there or...and you get the gist. Maybe it's also a sign of Greyback? Gah! A Lupin/Greyback fight? I don't know...some people have said it might be there purely because the artist thought it looked dramatic, but cover art isn't usually that random...

What doesn the full moon mean, with indication to Lupin?

Has this been discussed? All the forums are kind of a blur...

awww baz!!
good point about the whole language thing and erm your point about the full moon on the mack cover?? aww thank you for saying that! it is what i thought when i saw it! then i remembered that rumour or whatever it was a long time back... "lupin will have a big part in the next book" i thought wow!! maybe the rumour was right!! i mean why else have i full moon?? it is really only relevent to Lupin so... what is it!!?? true cover art is never really random.
i guess lupin has big part to play. or maybe it is just symbolising werewolves in general... maybe their will be Greyback, Lupin and other werewolves involved in a fight or something...

In GOF (well at the beginning of anyway) it says that Sirius was in a foreign country (indicated at least) do you think that Remus went out to join him? Or do you think it may have been the other way round? Or do you not think they met up at all?

Before I answer can I just say 'Yay a new thread, and sorry Ygraine for not coming into SPELL in like forever.

Right, I think Remus did go off to join Sirius in foreign parts. I think they were somewhere warm and tropical for a good part of that year until Dumbledore called them back to the order. I have a nice vision of palm trees waving softly in the warm breeze, and Sirius and Remus lying in the shade of a cabana sipping cocktails from big fat glasses adorned with paper umbrellas and huge chunks of pineapple and morello cherries!!

Also, tied in I guess. Do you think that Remus has travelled any where in his years? If so, where do you think he went? Or what his favourite country may be?

I think he would have gone to the home of the werewolf. Eastern Europe, Romania...Transylvania. He would want to know as much about the background of the werewolf as possible especially if he were looking for possible cures. I have a feeling also, that there are a lot of dark wizards in that part of the world. I am only guessing at this ofcourse because of it being Albania that Voldemort went to.

I must check out the cover again....I have to admit that I haven't studied it properly for a while!

The full moon does not necessarily have to mean Lupin. Really, using to full moon again to indicate Lupin seems a touch blasé. Is the full moon and werewolf the only way you can represent Lupin? I think not.

It may very well be that the full moon does represent Lupin (in which case, yay! more Lupin). I would be disappointed that the artist could not think of anything better than the moon, though.

It might just be me being hopeful, but this kind of thing isn't usually so random. OK, it does sound a little...I don't know the word...but to just suppose it means Lupin, I get what you mean. But I think back to PoA cover, and that had the full moon right behing Harry and hermy on Buckbeak. OotP, it had a (suprise, suprise) Phoenix, and even though that book wasn't about the order especially, it was about fighting Voldie and his supporters and that's what the order does. What I'm trying to say, the full moon has to symbolise werewolves, or lupin at least.


Aww, etphonehome! I can so imagine that..."Remus, you're blocking my sun!"..."No I'm not--and you stole my cocktail!"

Anyone found any ThewlisLupin pictures from movie 5? One can only cope with half a head and an arm for so long...

The moon could be used to represent the obvious, night. It may be a symbol of dark times or events at Hogwarts (since that is presumably the castle shown). But then again, why use a full moon?

As you said baz, it could mean werewolves in general. This would, of course, include Lupin since he is the werewolf infiltrater. Whatever the full moon indicates, I am certain we shall see more of Lupin in book seven.

well we did discuss the moon on the cover in ther Marauders fanclub i think i brought it up. Well they said ( i think) that it was random but i didnt think so. Well I think taht it means Lupin will have a big part. An earlier comment made me think, Greyback vs. Lupin fight. It would be pretty sweet to have a werewolf fight between Greyback and Lupin as werewolves. It would be gruesome hopefully Remus doesn't get hurt too much, but i love action so taht would be sweet.

The only way a Lupin vs Greyback fight would work (if they are both as werewolves) is in Lupin were to start taking the Wolfsbane potion again. Otherwise, Lupin would not be in control of himself when he transforms. More than that, I would give the edge to Greyback. A werewolf would have a savage beast fighting inside it. Lupin would not have that savage instinct to fight like a werewolf.

Hello Lupin Landers! President Helen is away for the weekend and has asked me to keep an eye on SPELL, so I happily obliged!

I see we have a new thread It kinda caught me off gaurd, but I am happy to see it!

I suppose I will answer the questions because I really have nothing else to contribute of my own, and I'm having one of the most horrible weeks ever so maybe some Lupiny questions will make me feel better!

In GOF (well at the beginning of anyway) it says that Sirius was in a foreign country (indicated at least) do you think that Remus went out to join him? Or do you think it may have been the other way round? Or do you not think they met up at all?

In my mind...they were together...but you know...that's my dirty mind (and probably Helen and Janet's too )

But honestly I don't think they met up untill after GOF but they must have at least corresponded. I mean, they had a lot of past and history and I think a lot of things had to be said. In PoA there initial "meeting" was kinda...hindered? I think that's what I'm trying to say, I hope you guys understand lol.

Also, tied in I guess. Do you think that Remus has travelled any where in his years? If so, where do you think he went? Or what his favourite country may be?

Siberia. Coouldn't tell you why. But I think he's been to Siberia. I don't think he liked it though, its cold there, and I don't like the cold so I don't think he would. (Don't you all just love my reasoning?)



After the Burial, I do agree with this. But I don't think it will happen in book 7. As much as I would love a ton of Lupin in Book 7 (and I do think we will have Lupin in book 7), I don't think it will be a huge amount. JKR has a lot to tie up in only 700 something pages and I just don't see her speanding a ton of time on Lupin...as much as we all want her to.

That's it from me folks! Hope everyone is having a good week!

Aw, ahorsofadifcolor! Hope next week's better

Might I say, K.Lupin_werewolf, that I should return the favour and say I really like your avatar. I've thought for a while that those stars in the background are cool!

[quote]I mean, they had a lot of past and history and I think a lot of things had to be said. In PoA there initial "meeting" was kinda...hindered?[quote]
Hey, I never thought of that! Good point! Of course they'd have had to talk...and about a lot (might I add that I don't think that hug was entirely 'brotherly'. Well, it's fun to speculate, anyway!)

After the Burial, I understand about Lupin not having that savageness of he and Greyback fought (and the only way of that happening properly is, I agree, with Lupin taking the Potion but if he does that then he's calm not a mad werewolf but then that's not so good for battle and so forth.) But what if Lupin just got mad? I mean, really angry? There I go again, wanting Lupin to let off a little steam. But, as Cobra said, some action like that would be very cool!

(Must dash, have horrible HORRIBLE art essay...some rubbish about how events throughout history have been recorded in artists' work and how we have to choose artwork and analyse them according to what events they are recording and what attitudes and values about these events from the artists can be seen in them and...ARGH! if only writing an essay about Lupin was on the syllabus... )

aww ahorsofadifcolor hope it gets better. and ...

aww Baz good luck with that.


aww thank you

i still don't that the full moon on the cover is there on accident. it might just be a trigger and helps us think of all the matters associated with the full moon. so that's Lupin, Greyback, werewolves and Bill. we should find out about Bill in the next book. but hey that's my view so erm leave it at that.



this whole Greyback and Lupin thing... erm if they fought in their werewolf form then i think that Lupin would have to use the wolfsbane potion or when fighting he would risk hurting someone else. i think though if he was a werewolf then he would be less savage...well duh. but i think that he would..well i'm not sure he would...erm... well he would have to make sure he had his wand that's all i'll say. but still they don't have to fight in their werewolf form. i think Lupin would have a better chance at winning if he fought with his wand...

I never really said that they should or would fight in werewolf form, just that it would be cool. It would be better for Lupin to fight as a human. I wouldn't want him to get injured or... lets not go there.

I think we need a new question but I can't think of one.

Maybe, do you think the werewolfs will be persuaded to help the Order?

I think that some will help Greyback and LV but Lupin will hopefully can persuade some to come and help. Kind of like Hagrid with the giants.

what are the requirements to join SPELL?

Maybe, do you think the werewolfs will be persuaded to help the Order?
I think the predjudices against werewolves will affect the way the respond to the war, if you arent with them your against them, and like someone said in a past post, poeple dont see the humans that werewolves are, they just see werewolves. I think because they feel that there is so much against them they will side with LV. Didnt Lupin say, in HBP, that LV was going to give werewolves freedoms they dont have now? I think Greyback is going to exploit these points to sway anyone who is unsure of who they will fight for.
Lupin might be able to sway a few but a mojority will follow Greyback and LV...IMHO

I agree, I think that most of the outspoken werewolves will end up following Greyback and Voldemort. I think that, perhaps, the ones still trying to live their lives as close to normal as possible will stay out of the thing entirely, as much as they can. I can imagine that Greyback would use threats to get to them, so I certianly don't see a big surge in the werewolf population for the Order. Their families would be at risk even more so than they are now! Greyback threatening to bite their loved ones if they don't side with Voldemort, or something. I know it's speculation, but I really doubt there will be a big werewolf showing at all in DH. Mention and some activity, yes, but I doubt it will take up a significant amount of the book.

(Yeah, we've reached the red!)

I didn't think that many would side with the Order because everyone treats them like trash and LV promises them things like freedom, which they won't get but, that is beside the point. I have a feeling that they will be mentioned but not a major part of anything in DH, just as passerby said.

P.S. What does IMHO mean?

"Maybe, do you think the werewolves will be persuaded to help the Order?"

Nah. definately not. Well, maybe some who are like Lupin, but...from the sound of it, all the werewolves are pretty much in with Voldie. As has been said before (whether on this particular thread or not), Lupin didn't really seem to be doing a rather sucessful job of getting wers over to the 'good' side. I mean, how difficult would that have been, staying undercover AND trying to get wers over to your side, whilst in the midst of the opposition?! ARGH! Well, that's how I understood his mission, anyway.

Passerby, you don't think wers will have a big part in DH? Oh, I think so! It seemed like Jk was sort of introducing us to Greyback in book 6, it would be logical to build on his character. Like when we first met Lucius in CoS. First he just appears in Hagrid's cottage and then again at the end. But we know how much of a role HE'S been...poor Draco.

It would just be annoying to bring in Greyback, the guy who bit Lupin and who is, incidentally, involved with Lupin's past--namely, father and then just let him fade into the distance. And, if she brings in Greyback more, than there's going to be a lot more than just a mention of wers. Maybe Harry will even go down into their...place...or wherever Lupin's been going. Well, according to my over-excited imagination.

hmm good question!!
mainly i think no. i think most of them will side with Greyback because that is where they feel tey belong as werewolves are treated so badly and people seem to look down their noses at them as if they are a stain that can't be removed. sadly a lot of people don't seem to think about the fact that a lot of these werewolves would not have choose to be what they are. and well that's why i think no. because they would not want to help those that treat them so badly.
of course there has to be a few werewolves out there that are alike to Lupin and therefore would not judge or take judgement as badly. maybe there are a few out there already fighting but no one knows what they become once a month. so possibly yes.
or there could be werewolves out there that don't believe in Greyback's views but can not fight for those that would not do the same. these werewolves prehaps take a back seat. watch but don't take part...

I am happy to report that my week is much better, thanks for all the well wishes!

windnrain05, all you have to is love Lupin and be willing to talk about him for hours on end. So welcome to SPELL, if you have any questions, just send me a PM and I will do my best to answer them! (Helen, our president is out of town right now!)

Do you think the werewolves will be presuaded to help the order?

Absolutly not. I think there is way to much prejiduce towards the whole lot of them for them to help normal wizards. What Greyback offeres them is probably very tempting for them. Any even if they don't like most of h is meathods, they might follow him just because they are sick of being treated like...poo. And if they don't side with Greyback they will probably just stay out of the war all together. Mind their own business. Either way, I don't think we will see much of the whole werewolf issue in DH anyways. There's just too much else to deal with!



Of course it wasn't brotherly, Baz...specualte away!!!

Hey there everybody in Lupin Land! I am new here (So I guess not officially a member yet). Let me begin by saying, "I Love Lupin!"

So, on with the topic...
Do you think the werewolves will be presuaded to help the order?
Not as a group. I think Lupin might be able to persuade a couple, but not more than that. I think Greyback has had too much time among them. Also, like many of the posts I have read here, I don't know that the werewolf theme will be that prevalent in DH. Having said that, I do believe Lupin will play a more significant role especially with Harry. I read a fanfic not too long ago that had Lupin teaching Harry Occlumency/Legilimency. I thought that was a really plausible speculation. In OoTP, Lupin encourages Harry to study hard with Snape because Snape is so accomplished. He does not, however, indicate he doesn't know how. I think it's a plausible speculation.

hterry1969, welcome to S.P.E.L.L.....you have posted yay...you're a member Isn't that right Ygraine...Ygraine...hellooo!!! Well I'm sure she'll say OK!! IOf not ahorsofadiifcolor will concurr:D



OOOh, I don't think so. All indications from JK so far have been that Lupin is the only werewolf on the side of good, but then I suppose there could be others. I guess it will be down to Lupin to find them. I think Greyback is so in the pocket of Voldemort that he would just kill any werewolf that didn't side with him.

Ouch! I never thought of that, hopefully he doesn't kill them. That would be devastating but on the other hand, it would get Lupin mad and I want him to get mad to unleash his anger and destroy all evil. Deffinetly going to happen. JOKING.

I think most people have expressed there feelings. Any new questions? Mine aren't very good, as you can see.

New questions...yeah we need some!

But first welcome to hterry1969, you are officially a member of SPELL! Helen (Ygraine) will probably welcome you too, she's our president, but I have no idea where she is!

Anyways, questions...I'll do my best...I'm at work and puppies are barking in the backround

What do you think Remus' best subject in school was?

How do you think James, Sirius, and Peter found out about Remus being a werewolf, and do you think they were scared or resentful of him at first?

Do you think Remus is more powerful a wizard then he lets on or that we are meant to believe?

Ok folks, hope those satisfy you for awhile!

What do you think Remus' best subject in school was? Well, due to a certain fanfic that has disappeared from VTM (hem, hem, Louise!), I know picture his best subject as "Care of Magical Creatures" because this fic had him making his odd living by being a free-lance pesk removal kind of guy! On a more book-related note, I would like to say DADA because that's the position he was asked to take, but given the difficulties Dumbledore had in gaining people for that post, I'm not too sure that it was his best. So, I'm going to go with Charms. And I don't really know why. He just seems like he would have a good grasp on it. So, yeah. C. Charms is my final answer.

How do you think James, Sirius, and Peter found out about Remus being a werewolf, and do you think they were scared or resentful of him at first? If there is one question that I really hope gets answered but know that it won't, it is "How the heck did Peter become one of their gang?!" He always is described as rather unlikable. Uh, anyways. I think that James and Sirius got fed up with wondering where their friend went once a month when he had to be sneaked out of their dorms (or didn't come back from dinner. . .). So, I'm guessing that they took James' invisibility cloak (that I KNOW he had to have! Don't ask me how. He's from a rich family. They probably have things.) and followed dear Remus out one evening to figure out what was up. When they figured it out, they probably thought it was some grand adventure. They were probably more excited about the thrill of hanging out with a werewolf, figuring out how to become animagi, and doing all this under everyone's nose that they weren't frightened of Remus. Or resentful. They lived in the world; they knew the prejudices he had to face. I think they were probably bonded well enough in friendship that the information wasn't a black mark against Remus. Even if they weren't friends, I don't think those two would have held it against him. Oh, and Peter found out by default. Because he's nosy. And stuff.

Do you think Remus is more powerful a wizard then he lets on or that we are meant to believe? I'm not entirely sure about this question. I've never thought that we were led to believe he wasn't a powerful wizard. I don't tend to think of him in relation to power, anyways. I tend to think of him more along the lines of the way he needs to blend in and that his condition makes him ragged and tired. But for me that doesn't directly relate to his power. I don't know. Wait. Are cheese doodles involved? Because if they are involved, he'd definately be more powerful. . .


Thanks for the questions! (And for all those enquiring minds, yes: Cheese Doodles are those Cheese Puffs things. Or those things with that Cheetah. Can't remember what those are called because I'm so used to calling them cheese doodles. OH, duh. Cheetoh's.)

Salutations!

Yay, questions!!!

Best subject? DADA! He was teaching it in Hp's third year, you'd think that he'd be pretty good at it!


I think that they just noticed his absences and grew suss. That, and they would have noticed his paleness, sickness and the timely abscences and the Maraudres were smart: they'd have looked at what was happening and would have figured it out.


I think he's more powerful than he lets on. I mean, he isn't really the type to wave his wand yelling 'LOOK AT WHAT I CAN DO!'. I think we'll see a more powerful Lupin in DH.

Hope my contribution is worthy.

~Baz

What do you think Remus' best subject in school was?

Yeah, I was going to say Care of Magical Creatures too Janet lol! But I think he was just thrown into the DADA role and obviously if Potions was his forte he's have been able to make his own Wolfsbane, so I'm going to throw my towel in with Janet and say Charms.

How do you think James, Sirius, and Peter found out about Remus being a werewolf, and do you think they were scared or resentful of him at first?


I think that they were friends first and then they would have noticed that he was disappearing at full moon and being clever, well James and Sirius being clever Ok Sirius being clever, would have sussed it out. Both Sirius and James would have thought their friend to be pretty cool, they'd have said something like...'I laugh in the face of danger' or 'Danger's my middle name'....Peter would have doo doo'd his pants!!

Do you think Remus is more powerful a wizard then he lets on or that we are meant to believe?

I don't see Remus as powerful, he's just quietly confident. He knows what he knows and it's enough to get him where he needs to be, whether it's enough to protect himself or to save another.

I love Lupin in the third book. I feel so sorry for him that he has to retire from hogwarts. Also i feel bad he has shabby clothes, but hes an amazng wizard !!
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Oh yeah! I love questions.
Also, thank you for the warm welcome.

What do you think Remus' best subject in school was?
I think Lupin's best subject was probably Charms or Transfiguration. He just strikes me as very smart, very studious. I don't know that it would have been DADA. I think he was probably very good, but I don't think it was his best subject. I agree with Passerby, just because DD hired him to fill that position at school doesn't mean it was his best subject, however he does seem to know quite a bit about the right way to do things.

How do you think James, Sirius, and Peter found out about Remus being a werewolf, and do you think they were scared or resentful of him at first?
I don't have my books with me at the moment (I'm at work), but I think it was either Remus or Sirius who explains that they got tired of wondering where Remus went, so they followed him. I think at first they were resentful because he wouldn't tell them where he went or why he was gone, but after they followed him and found out, they decided to become animagi so they could be with him. They (James and Sirius) were never scared or resentful after they found out. Peter, on the other hand, I think was probably afraid of his own shadow. Still not sure why he was in this group.

Do you think Remus is more powerful a wizard then he lets on or that we are meant to believe?
Yes. Because of his condition, he has had to develop skills to get through life and hide his condition so he can get a job, thanks to Umbridge. He gives very subtle clues that he is a very accomplished wizard. I don't think he could do his job for the Order (trying to recruit werewolves) unless he had capabilities we don't know about as yet.

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What do you think Remus' best subject in school was?
well he took the job (even if that could have been because he needed to live, bless him)... i think he was fairly gifted in DADA. he seems quite powerful and by looking at the third book when he fights off the dementor... flames it was described as wasn't it? and he didn't say anything did he? okay so saying that DADA was not he's best subject. i think he would have been an all rounder mainly like Hermione is now. he had his nose in a book a lot... so i think. so erm charms??

How do you think James, Sirius, and Peter found out about Remus being a werewolf, and do you think they were scared or resentful of him at first?
well i am pretty sure they followed him... but anyways... i think that at first they would have been shocked and scared more than anything and i think it would have been more of a behind-Remus'-back conversation. i think they pulled through for their mate because Remus had been through a lot. i think they valued why he never told them in the first place. so guys can be sensitive.

Do you think Remus is more powerful a wizard then he lets on or that we are meant to believe?
yes!! third book, train part... flames? and he did it non-verbally...he was smart as a yougnster from what we know. he has been throught a lot in life and so yeah.. i think my answer to that is a straight yes.

I don't think that his ability to perform nonverbal spells really marks him as a powerful wizard. After all, we see in Harry's sixth year that, as a part of DADA, they all learn how to perform nonverbal spells. He's obviously going to be good at it because he's been using them for years, unlike Harry who has to work very hard because he's just learning to do them.

Again, I still think he's plenty powerful, but I don't think there are any hidden powers with him.

As far as his knowledge in the DADA class, it still seems to me like most of his lessons centered on Care of Magical Creatures! (Kappas, Hinkeypunks, Boggarts. . .) Just the darker ones. . .Though, I think Hagrid's Blast-Ended Skrewts might have given him a run for his money. . .

I don't think it was Transfiguration because we never see him transfigure anything. Not that he wouldn't be good at it, but nothing gives me the impression that it was his forte. Although, if Peter finally managed to become an animagus, I don't think Lupin would have failed! I'll still stick with charms, though.

passerby

i know non-verbal spells aren't that big and powerful but when you put it into context of the spell... i think that he is still powerful. i mean there's a difference isn't there? between non-verbal casting of wingardium levoisa and a non-verbal casting of expecto patronum or ... the killing curse... *gulps*


wow i think you are right on this one you know... you raise a fair point! so prehaps he was very good at Care of Magical creatures...

Lupin used the patronus charm without speaking, but it never said that it had a corporeal form. I am certain that he can produce a corporeal patronus, because he would need it to communicate with the other members of the Order.

He was involved in several fights in the books and he always comes out of them fine. As for my thoughts, I agree with etphonehome



I don't think he is as naturally talented as Snape or some others, but his intelligence more than compensates for it.

As for his best subject, I hazzard a guess at Charms. I don't place much credence on the fact that he taught DADA. A teacher was needed and he took the job. Need I remind everyone that Lockhart and Umbridge also taught DADA? They were both thoroughly incompetent.

When James and Sirius realized that Remus was a werewolf, I bet they were excited. I don't think they were scared or thought anything of it. He was their friend and that was all that mattered. I do think that Peter would have been a bit frightened.

Mwhahaha! I have been up here, all along... watching you all... in a rather 1984 totalitarian way as well... I am an evil Giraffe.... Ah! Toffs! *runs and hides*

Anyway!! I think i have successfully scared all the newbies here... apologies and welcome to SPELL *throws confetti!*


What do you think Remus' best subject in school was?
DADA, of course! But i also reckon he was good at Arithmancy too

How do you think James, Sirius, and Peter found out about Remus being a werewolf, and do you think they were scared or resentful of him at first?
I think the only resentment that they would have felt toward him would have been that Remus lied to them, and was planning on continuing to do so. I don't think the fact that he was a werewolf made them feel resented or scared of him though


Do you think Remus is more powerful a wizard then he lets on or that we are meant to believe?
Oooh an intresting question! You know, i would love Remus to be like the Luke Skywalker of the wizarding world, extremely powerful but doesn't know it, and doesn't know how to use it, and the bad guys are scared of him.

However, if anyone is like that in HP, it would be Harry. So... no, i don't think remus is more powerful than he appears to be. I think the appealing nature of Remus, is that he's very down to earth, practical. Although he's studious and does have a good brain behind him he's not a genius. He's kind and patience, treats pupils as independantly (i completely forgt how to spell that ) thinking individuals. He's basically everyones dream teacher! He's the one we wished we had/have. I don't think there's anything really beyound that power wise at least. But i do think he's hiding something.

Apart from his undying an unconditional love for me of course