I heard somewhere that there'd be no Dobby in OotP (th movie) and he's really important . my guess is that if thay don't put dobby in it than they won't have any house elves at all in the HBP.

Yeah i know i read that Dobby wont be in OOTP as well in the paper. I really think he shoulf be in HBP after all Dobby is on the front cover of HPDH isn't he?? So he has major importance they just can't ct Dobby from HBP!! At least i agree. LunasLil'bro

I think its hard to say at the moment if House Elves will be in the film. Although Dobby is not in OOTP and he wasnt in GOF. Kreacher is in OOTP. So they could both be in HBP, I think we will have to wait and see, personnally I hope they are both in the film.

Well I really hope that they do put the house elfs in HBP. Kreacher and Dobby did have a big part following Draco and what not. And if in the 7th book they are still following him because Harry never tells them to stop then they would have to put them in HBP for DH. But right now seeing as they haven't put Dobby in GoF or OotP, I doubt that we will see him again. I think that we might see Kreacher in HBP because Harry owns him in the beginning before sending him to Hogwarts so and then they could have just Kreacher tail Malfoy. But I miss the house elfs , I really hope that Dobby does make in HBP!

They should put Dobby in it but then again they missed out everything about SPEW and all the other house elfy stuff in GoF so who knows.
It was a shame that they missed so much about the house elfs in GoF and it was quite a major sub-plot in the book so they really should put it all in HBP me thinks.
Lets hope they do anyway

i think they've completely cut the elves out of the films i was expecting to see him in goblet of fire as he helps harry so much with the second task...i doubt we'll see dobby in anymore of the hp films

but they need the elves for HBP i mean who's going to follow Draco and find out what he's doing, because harry can't follow him all the time can he? they need the house elves i was really disappointed that we didn't see winky or dobby in GoF they are important in HBP i just find it annoying that they cut things out, that end up being important in another film!

I know they have a time limit and everything but they could have just shortened it, i mean it was really important.
And Dobby probably plays a big part again in DH so in my opinion, and probably many other peoples opinion, they should have kept the house elves in even if they had to shorten it or anything

shortened what the movie? i don't think they should have shortened it, but they should have keep things in that were needed and got rid of things that were pointless and weren't in the book so they could add in dobby and winky, it would have been so much better if they had done that and it means that they can keep them in for other films because the house elves are becoming more important as the books go on!

i really wish they had put dobby in GOF and OOTP but atleast we still have keacher lol

i really wish they hadnt cut so much out of the films, i was looking forward to the house elves

and now their even adding in things that wasnt in the movie ! y not put something in the film that was in the book

i hope dobbys in HBP !:)

No i mean they could have shortened the house elf scenes but they should have atleast had something in the films about them, i mean i thought it was a really important sub plot, or atleast a heck of a good one anyway. But to just not include them at all was gay.

I do hope that they keep the house elves in the HBP. I mean, they could shorten the scenes and cut out where both Dobby and Kreacher follow Malfoy around, and just leave it to "Creepy" Kreacher, but what fun would that be? One of my favorite parts reading was when Dobby popped Kreacher in the mouth and the whole fight scene. It was brilliant.

Also isn't it in HBP where Harry, Hermione and Ron finally get into the Kitchens and see all the House elves working happily? I'm not going to get my hopes up though, they tend to cut things that I would have left in because it would have given us a few laughs.

they have to put them in!!!
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The importance of the elves are slowly revealed throughout the books and it would be a mistake to leave them out as if it comes to the last film and it will end up a so-what moment due to a lack of context for the reappearance of the house-elves. Looking back on it, I just wonder how much of a mistake it might have been to leave out the SPEW sequences in GoF

I thought it was a pretty big mistake, and
they haven't put in house elfs very much in
the past. I was so looking forward to SPEW
in GoF, and the kitchen and everything !

yeah i think they should add them in. They are so cute and small, they'll brighten up anyone's day!

if any scene in DH gets cuts it's going to be the house-elves. I mean they'll probably show Kreacher, but they probably won't show Dobby...which won't make sense cuz then how the heck do they get away from the malfoys? Ummm i'm not sure..but maybe they'll bring back dobby and kreacher but they won't show them attacking in the big battle. Either way Dobby should be brought back at least in HBP, that way "movie fans" only will know who the heck he is or at least remember him!

Your right, they have to include the house elves. Dobby gets Harry and co. away from the Malfoy's, and Kreacher is an integral part in finding Slytherin's locket horcrux with the info he gives the trio.

One thing we cannot forget about between the Harry Potter Movies and lets say the LOTR or Pirates of the Caribbean, this is seven movies we're talking about, which means more past events to take into account. They have a lot to consider during the making of the next two films, and their job as producers isn't easy between what to keep and what to take out. If I were them, I would personally keep the house elves, mainly because of the help they gave in DH.

They don't even have to include them fully in HBP, but I would urge them to include them in DH at least.


Im psyched for the next movie, it gives me a chance to get excited about something "Harry."

Yea I think that David Yates should have taken alot more into account when he made OOTP because if he only just had Dobby show them the Room of Requirement then that little cameo would have been enough to keep using the elves over the next two movies. I think that he will show them in HBP though because of their monumental significance in the last book. I would also now like to just vent some frustration with David Yates. David, we understand that you cannot include everything in the movies that are in the books, but I mean did you think you were being ironically funny when you made the longest book the shortest movie? I mean that movie was good I guess, but it could have easily been longer and the audience still would have been entertained..I mean the 3rd Lord of the Rings movie was like 3 and a half hours long and it still got great reviews. Furthermore, why was everything so mixed up? Things happened in completely different ways than they happened in the book. Also, the two way mirror was not included in the movie, and wow we all know what kind of role that plays in DH. Also, you got so wrapped up in Harry's emotions that you forgot to give barely anyne else dialogue. I just hope you redeem yourself in the Half Blood Prince.

I agree with "Hugo Weasley" and also, I just have to say It would be a complete waste if the House Elfs don't have a decent amout of movie time.

Yea I likd how Kreacher transformed over th course of the book...I just hope that David Yates has the sense to put Dobby and him in the 6th movie

This is going to sound really negative, but I really don't think he will for two reasons. First, things like that are always skipped over in the movie. And second, because, OotP seemed choppy and incomplete so that's how I'm expecting HBP to be.


But then again, he wasn't going to put Kreacher in OotP, except JKR said he had a big part in the 7th book, so Kreacher needed to be in the movie. So at least we know he won't be skipped over in DH, the movie, but that's getting off topic, so I'll stop now.

Yea but I have to hope that with all the negative criticism of how choppy OOTP was that Yates might be taking more detail into account...plus almost everything in HBP is important whereas in OOTP things were important, but they were only important in that book and weren't important for the next books (however that does not mean that I don't think that OOTP should not have been longer because I think it should have.) So I think Yates will be forced to deal with things in the 6th book like relationships and plots that include Dobby and Kreacher that will play out in the last book.

Yes, I agree too with the idea that OotP was a bit choppy, but we have to take into account that the book is the longest in the series, so if they were to put everything, the film would've lasted like 6 hours...
I think that on HBP they should include at least the scene when Harry tells Dobby and Kreacher that they were to follow Malfoy...it's kind of crucial, because that's how Harry finds out that Draco was in the Room of Requirement.

Yea thats the one scene of Dobby and Kreacher that I think they should include. Then Yates can pay attenetion to other details more closely

I'm just thinking what if Yates changes it. I mean, in OotP, the movie, Cho betrayed them, and neville found the room. He can always change it. I'm sorry, I'm just really trying not to get my hopes up about the Harry Potter movies. But Kreacher and Dobby, I think, could easily be skipped over.

Yea I'm really scared he might change some stuff, but to tell you the truth I think it will be alot harder for him to change stuff in HBP than it was for him to change stuff in OOTP.

Haha, I thought that about OOTP. But then again, HBP is shorter. Not by too much, but it is. I guess we'll just have to wait until next summer to see if the houseelves are in. But there weren't any Hogwarts kitchen scenes, or anything with Dobby. What if they just leave house elves out Harry Potter movies period.. That would suck. Especially since I think Kreacher's one of my favorite characters. But then again, Kreacher and Dobby have to follow Malfoy, so how would that work? What if Yates just has Harry figure it out on his own about Malfoy's Task. Ahh, I'm getting so carried away. Haha, I think I'll just stop now.

the houseelves would be there now since both elves played a vital role in the last book. it would not take alot of time in term of movie time, but would take long production time and that is probably why they usually cut it.

Maybe they would atleast mention Kreacher in the beginning to say that Harry own the Grimmauld place, since it is very important for the 7 installement. it does not have to be at the Dursleys but maybe when Dumbledore is with Harry in the burrow.

I really don't think that the house elves will be included all that much in the movies. I could see them keeping kreacher, but i'm not all that positive that they will have dobby in the movies, which is sad, but will probably be true. I'm not trying to be negative, just smart, because if they found ways around having house elves in previous films, then they will with the last two as well.

Dobby does not have to be in the 6th, he can just come in 7 and assume he tried to repay debt to Harry by saving Harry and his friends.

It won't take much time though having him in the 6th movie, he should be there so that it would tell the story of where is he(in this case working at hogwart).

The elves are probably being cut mainly for the production time it took for all the animation.

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OMG!!!!! house elves better be in the 6th movie or im going to scream. lol.

Dobby is my favorite character, hence my name. Dobby is really important and he shows extreme loyalty to harry. (especially in DH) Dobby and Kreacher really should be in HBP! If they put kreacher and not dobby, it really doesnt make sense.

Why change the book up for no reason??? Also, how can harry find out tht draco been going into the room of requirement. I agree with Phoenix_1 " think that on HBP they should include at least the scene when Harry tells Dobby and Kreacher that they were to follow Malfoy...it's kind of crucial, because that's how Harry finds out that Draco was in the Room of Requirement."

I guess they could just make another character see him but thats not what happened! It'll be OoTP all over again. Neville wasnt really the one who discovered the rrom of requirement, it was dobby!!!

I love the houseelves and really hope they will be in it!

I realise neville always did the role of houseelves...hopefully they are not gonna get him on trail on Malfoy since it does not make sense, the fact that neville also got classes. In another they MUST include elves, or the storyline will be ruined especially the 7th one (remember Neville can't just apparate into malfoy manor and got killed before destroying Nagini and become a proffessor).

You're partially right, trtrgunners.

Neville did take the part of dobby in OotP, however he doesn't always take the part of the houseelves. I don't think. But you're right, in Dh, he can't for sure. They will most likely have a brief half a minute of showing Dobby, . Although in HBP, neville might come across Draco in the RoR. Kind of like in OotP, the movie.

yea it does make sense that way, but what about



They need to be some kind of notice first that there are houseelves in Hogwarts, so in book 6, Dobby and Kreacher should appears out of nowhere fighting and they should said that they now worked at hogwart and stuff, then harry set them on tail of Malfoy. This would only be 5minutes, and probably less

Originaly, Kreacher wasn;t gonna be in OOTP but JKR said DH woodnt make sense without him. Those who have read DH knows thats true.

I'm going to have to disagree with what's being said here and say that I don't really think that house elves are needed in this film.

I think that all they really have to put in is Kreacher at the beginning when Dumbledore is at the Dursleys and uses Kreacher to prove that Grimmauld Place is really in Harry's possession. Other than that I don't think that they need house elves.

if they don't put the House Elfs in this then it won't show Harrys obsescion with wanting to know what Malfoy is up to. to me putting in the House Elfs is a major part of the movie that should indeed part of it.

To answer your last question, if they don't put house elves in GoF, then that would be two movies in a row without houseelves and that's about four years in actual time, so the audience would forget about houseelves.

Battlefield2142, that's a good point. However, the movies often chop up the plot as we see in OotP.

I know we need Kreacher in to keep continuity up, but I think it would be sweet if Dobby only appeared in the 2nd and 7th movie. It would be like 7 years later, and movie fans would remember and bring us back to the older movies

I don'y know becuse kreacher and dobby aare very signifigant to the 7th but i don't think they will

I really don't think the house elves will make it into the movie even though I really think they should. They barely mentioned Kreacher in OOTP, and Dobby hasn't been in a movie since COS. But Kreacher has such an important role in DH, and I think it would confuse the people who don't read the books to just bring back Kreacher in DH. So hopefully they can spare a couple of moments for the house elves.

I very much doubt that house elves will be in this movie despite the fact i really want them to. I absolutely hated it when Dobby was cut from GoF, i practically screamed and i still do whenever i watch it.

I really want them in it so make a petiton! (lol! i doubt it will make any difference!!!),

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I Doubt it. After all they didn't have them in OotP or GoF. They even weren't that much important in HBP. Let's just hope they are in DH ( or I will sue)! (JK)

I think they should include the house elves in this film, but i think i already heard somewhere they are not. I find it really disappointing - even if they are not key to the plot, they will be in the last film and they are some of the best charcters in the books, it wont be the same without them in

I agree that they should be in it, but since they didnt include them in some of the earlier movies, it would be very hard to include them now. And i agree. it is too bad, because i really like seeing Dobby as a free elf and it would be cool to see how they would make Winky look in the movies. But oh well. Something is always lost in the translation between book and movie.

It would be so awesome if they put in the house elves, but I doubt they will. They didn't show Winky in GoF or any in OotP. That was a great disappointment. Oh well, they did show Kreacher. I forgot up till right now. But, I hope they do. I want to see Dobby as a free elf and to see Winky. I wonder what she'd look like. They had better be in DH though. I'll be quite upset if they aren't.

well i realy dont know...

they will have to explain that the house elves work at hogwarts as they cut this from GoF and they cant assume everyone watching has read the books

but rowling let them cut it so she must have an idea how to work them back in but i think dobby and kreacher following draco is neded

and then in 7th ron saying aboutt he house elves is what makes hermione kiss him so it needs to be put in at some point

Well, a house elf needs to be in HBP somewhere.

For one, we learn that Harry inherits Kreacher. I realize they may just have Dumbledore tell Harry he has a servant and skip the test... whatev .

Secondly, Harry has Kreacher and Dobby tail Malfoy for weeks. So, are we just going to skip over that whole Harry-obsessed-with-Malfoy subplot. See, all these rumors of cuts occuring at the end of HBP leads me to believe they aren't true because if they were the movie would end about four chapters shy of where it's supposed to.

Third, I realize that creating house elves for different scenes is expensive but we saw, literally, about fifteen seconds of Kreacher in OotP. In HBP his role isn't much bigger, nor is Dobby's but it wold sill be interesting to see them.

Lastly, both Kreacher and Dobby play vitally important roles in DH, so while they may not have major roles in HBP, wouldn't it be a bit odd if we just don't hear from Dobby since CoS and we're only able to sneak a peek at Kreacher in OotP-- then in DH whammo here's some house elves to save the day (because they really do... save the day).

We also need to setup some kind of situation where the audience can see that Kreacher loathes Harry. That way when he comes around in DH it'll be as big a deal as it is in the book. It takes alot of time to get Kreacher to come around and (I don't know about anyone else) but I think the whole situation with Harry-being-nice-to-Kreacher-despite-the-fact-that-he-fatally-betrayed-his-godfather is really touching.

So, maybe no major roles; but hopefully a scene or two?