I just wondered if anyone had any ideas or theories on the natural life span of a magical person? In many popular stories etc about witches, it seems as if they live much longer than non-magic people.
On albus Dumbledore's wizard card it said that he worked with flamel in alchemy. Does this mean that he is as old as Flamel?
Also in the first book, Hagrid is shocked that the dursley's told Harry his parents died in a car crash, as if the very idea of them dying like that was crazy. So again, I get the impression that normal accidents, etc, don't effect wizards etc.
I don't think this is a particularly important question, just one that I was thinking about.
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witches or wizards would probabaly be able to prevent accidents from happening. they would use magic to save themselves
they probably live longer than humans, but i wouldn't know the actual lifespan 'cause JKR didn't tell us...
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[First comment] Oh, I never realized that. Albus was working with Flamel on the stone...but Flamel used the stone for living an eternity. At the end of the first book, they say that Flamel would soon die because the stone is now gone. So does that mean that Albus could be seriously old? If that's the case, how come he's not dead? o_0;;
[Second comment] Hm, I'm just thinking Hagrid was shocked at the idea that the Dursley's lied to Harry about his parent's deaths. Not really because wizards/witches can actually die from Muggle-like accidents. But that could be possible, since it does make sense for them to use magic to protect themselves from accidents like that.
Back to the topic though, heh.
From Dumbledore, I guess wizards can live REALLY old (Although he can be under the influence of something else.) Although that would mean that Harry's grandparents couldn't have died from natural causes then, ah but we're getting a bit side-tracked now, heh.
Since this is the magical world, there's bound to be some kind of life lengthening potion/spell that they came up with that could have affected everyone.
or maybe, the more powerful they are, the longer they live...?
well, everr since the first book when dumbledore tells harry at the end of the book that the stone was destroyed and talks with him about the flamels and that they had enough elixer left to help them settle their affairs I sort of assumed that DD also used the elixer and maybe has enough to last until Harry reaches maturity and defeats Voldie the final time. I sort of see Harry as DD final task he has to do
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i think hagrid was shocked because the dursley's came up with such a cowardly lie. harry's parents died to save harry, and hagrid was shocked that the dursley's only told harry about some fake car crash, instead of the truth.
as for dumbledore, he is really old, im not too sure why. i think wizards/witches probably have a longer life span than muggles, but only a few years, maybe 10 at the most?
that's just waht i think.
i think hagrid was shocked because the dursley's came up with such a cowardly lie. harry's parents died to save harry, and hagrid was shocked that the dursley's only told harry about some fake car crash, instead of the truth.
as for dumbledore, he is really old, im not too sure why. i think wizards/witches probably have a longer life span than muggles, but only a few years, maybe 10 at the most?
that's just waht i think.
| QUOTE (madamepomfrey @ Oct 30 2004, 10:08 PM) |
| I sort of assumed that DD also used the elixer and maybe has enough to last until Harry reaches maturity and defeats Voldie the final time. I sort of see Harry as DD final task he has to do |
Oh! Good one there, madamepomfrey!! Yeah...it seems like DD has a lot to handle especially with the new rise of Voldemort in GoF. We see him having a lot of things to do in OotP.
I dunno, normal lifespan for Muggle would be like what....60-70 years old? I'm pretty sure that DD has past his 150th birthday... but I might be wrong though... which is already double than the lifespan of Muggle.
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That could be the reason too...at least that's what I see in DD...
Nicholas Flamel is like 700+ years old.
Pernelle Flamel, his wife, is 638 years old.
I don't know if they were using the elixir of life to make them last longer or that it's normal to live that long.
Dumbledore is 200+ I think. I don't know, do we see his age somewhere in the books? It seems as if his age is at the tip of my tongue!
Pernelle Flamel, his wife, is 638 years old.
I don't know if they were using the elixir of life to make them last longer or that it's normal to live that long.
Dumbledore is 200+ I think. I don't know, do we see his age somewhere in the books? It seems as if his age is at the tip of my tongue!
i thought JK said it was like a muggke but slightly longer. i do know that Flammel and his wife used the stone to live longer and Joe it was in OOTP that he aged a bit i think.
I think its very obvious that Hagrid was shocked to hear the Potters' tragic death being changed into such a 'mugglish' and ordinary and foul death and that moreover being told to their son...that's why Hagrid was so shocked...
And about DD i really have no clue and you've started to make me wonder...probably DD's younger than Flamel and so he lives...and if he had used the Elixir, he would die too with flamel, as the stone is no more...or maybe, Dansgurl is rite...the stronger, the longer they live!
And about DD i really have no clue and you've started to make me wonder...probably DD's younger than Flamel and so he lives...and if he had used the Elixir, he would die too with flamel, as the stone is no more...or maybe, Dansgurl is rite...the stronger, the longer they live!
I think Dumbledore is around because in COS it says that Chamber was opened 50 years ago. At that time Tom Riddle was in his 6th or 7th year at Hogwarts so he would have been around 16. Dumbledore was his teacher and was probably around 40-50.So now he is probably around 100 now.
However, Griselda Marchbanks said she tested him in his OWL's so I think that wizards can probably live longer than average humans.
However, Griselda Marchbanks said she tested him in his OWL's so I think that wizards can probably live longer than average humans.
another thing i never thought of! I reckon it will be as long as they want it, fred and george brewed ageing potion in GOF, so there must be an anti-ageing potion
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I don't think they can live as long as they want to by use of a potion, if they could what would be the point of the stone's Elixir?
Now 53 years ago (in book time) Hagrid was 13, that makes him 66 years old now and he doesn't look anywhere near that old.(or at least that's the impression I got from the books) And also 53 years ago Dumbledore was already a Hogwarts' teacher and he was of considerable and showed it. (again that's the impression I got from the book) So if Hagrid is that old and doesn't look it, how old does that make Dumbledore sense he does look like he'd be old by a normal human’s standard. Another thing is that in OotP we met the person who gave Dumbedore his O.W.L.S. That means that the man that tested Dumbledore is extremely old, because I would imagine that he wasn't a young man when he started testing students. Yet he is still alive today. So what is the standard age for a wizard/witch and was Nicholas Flamel and his wife really that much over it when they died.
Now 53 years ago (in book time) Hagrid was 13, that makes him 66 years old now and he doesn't look anywhere near that old.(or at least that's the impression I got from the books) And also 53 years ago Dumbledore was already a Hogwarts' teacher and he was of considerable and showed it. (again that's the impression I got from the book) So if Hagrid is that old and doesn't look it, how old does that make Dumbledore sense he does look like he'd be old by a normal human’s standard. Another thing is that in OotP we met the person who gave Dumbedore his O.W.L.S. That means that the man that tested Dumbledore is extremely old, because I would imagine that he wasn't a young man when he started testing students. Yet he is still alive today. So what is the standard age for a wizard/witch and was Nicholas Flamel and his wife really that much over it when they died.
I wondered this as well...I figure DD to be well into his 150-200 year old mark just by the way he speaks..and I think I read somewhere that he is between these ages...but I dont recall where 
I would say that the average lifespan is probably like 300 or some odd years?? although other than at hogwarts we dont really see too many old people..and what about Muggles like Hermione who study magic... do they still die early because they have muggle blood or is there a potion or something to make them have magic blood and what about their children...maybe JKR will explain it someday...because it could get very confusing 
I would say that the average lifespan is probably like 300 or some odd years?? although other than at hogwarts we dont really see too many old people..and what about Muggles like Hermione who study magic... do they still die early because they have muggle blood or is there a potion or something to make them have magic blood and what about their children...maybe JKR will explain it someday...because it could get very confusing
I think the natural life span of a magic person who stays out of trouble and maintains good physical/mental condition would be over 200 years old. Granted, not many people can succeed in those criteria, so Dumbledore's generation is a VERY small group in modern times. JK Rowling mentioned DD age and that wizards live longer than Muggles here. The Flamels have exaggerated their lifspans using the philospher's stone, they are an anomaly.
I do not think Hermione or any other Muggle-born magician would live a shorter life than their Half-Blood nor Pure-blooded peers.
I do not think Hermione or any other Muggle-born magician would live a shorter life than their Half-Blood nor Pure-blooded peers.
Um yeah, Hermione isn't a muggle that studies magic, she's a witch that was born of muggle parents. Therefore all the magical laws of life apply to her.
I was thinking the standard would be about 250 years or so.
I was thinking the standard would be about 250 years or so.
I realize Hermione is a witch... bad wording on my part.....but she comes from Muggle parentage...so does that mean that 2 Muggle bloods can make magic blood??? I suppose its possible...
Well obviously it's possible sense a lot of muggle born wizards and witches are born all the time. And I wouldn’t imagine that your life span would be any shorter because of it.
Okay, we've answered the main question. How old could the Wizarding Examiners be? In particular Professor Marshbanks and Professor Tofty (cool name)?
Hi! I bet it is a lot longer then our lifespan because there is a lot more of the healing stuff they do. I also think that a wizard's life is more dangerous so they might die more of that.
| QUOTE (madamepomfrey @ Oct 28 2004, 07:20 PM) |
| On albus Dumbledore's wizard card it said that he worked with flamel in alchemy. Does this mean that he is as old as Flamel? |
I believe that J.K. Rowling said that Dumbledore is not as old as Flamel. He has just helped him out with more recent stuff.
| QUOTE (Dragonxpert @ Oct 6 2005, 01:36 AM) |
| I believe that J.K. Rowling said that Dumbledore is not as old as Flamel. He has just helped him out with more recent stuff. |
yes, I agree with you Dragonxpert. I believe that Jo said that Dumbledore was somewhere between 150 nad 200. From the fact that some of the examiners had overseen Dumbledore's tests he may have been only middleaged. I don't believe that he was using the elixor of life, I can't imagine that it has a really long shelf life! I think that there are anti-aging potions and charms but nothing permanent. That would work forever and maybe they only worlk for a certain amount of time. Or maybe the body develops immunities to them like we do to medicines.
What are your thoughts on wizards aging? I remember reading somewhere that Dumbledore is 150 years old and he doesn't look, or act near that age at all! But Nicholas Flammel had to use the sorcerers stone to stay alive till 600. So what are your thoughts?
OH and one more thing....what is Dumbledore's patronus? I'm reading the fourth book again and when krum is stunned by crouch in the forest DD sends Hagrid a message through his patronus (just like Tonks did in the 6th book when she brought harry up to the castle). It says "Harry saw something silvery dart out of it and streak away through the trees like a ghostly bird." on page 560
I think this is a phoenix what do you think?
But Nicholas Flammel had to use the sorcerers stone to stay alive till 600. So what are your thoughts? OH and one more thing....what is Dumbledore's patronus? I'm reading the fourth book again and when krum is stunned by crouch in the forest DD sends Hagrid a message through his patronus (just like Tonks did in the 6th book when she brought harry up to the castle). It says "Harry saw something silvery dart out of it and streak away through the trees like a ghostly bird." on page 560
I think this is a phoenix what do you think?
I am pretty sure that JKR said in some interview that the average wiard lives longer than the average muggle. Dumbledore was around 150 years old when he died, and it was mentioned several times throughout the fifth and sixth books that he was starting to really look old and fragile. He even says himself that he is getting old. "But I have seen what I have done to you... bears all the hallmarks of the failing of age." OotP 826. And also in HBP: "Oh weaker resistance, slower reflecxis amycus, old age in short." (594)
This is complete speculation, but i'd say the average wizard lives for 120 years or so.
This is complete speculation, but i'd say the average wizard lives for 120 years or so.
yeah JKR says on her website that wizards live longer than normal wizards. we dont know how dumbledore got to live for so long yet do we though.
Is Dumbledore 150 years old? Really? I don't think so... Could you prove it?
Really? I don't think so... Could you prove it?
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well, wizards and witches can prevent many problems from happening but their life span is the same as muggles. that's what i think. but i also think if you have stuff like the philosopher's stone or something like that, you can live as long as you can. i'm not sure about my answers as i didn't think about this before but that's all i can say about my opinion.
i'm not sure about my answers as i didn't think about this before but that's all i can say about my opinion.
I also remember reading that DD was 150 and that McGonagall is 70. Isn't Voldie round about the same age? They probably went to school together...
since this is a merged topic I am guessing the bottom post are from another thread. Jo said that Wizards do have longer lifespans than normal people. Dumbledore is around 150 according to Jo, and some of the examiners from book five tested him so I think that he might be around middleaged or on the early end of old like a normal human in their 60's or 70's
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