Crookshanks is not a animagus or anything like that. JKR has already confirmed that idea. Felix Felicius is either a new character or a character from the past.

I figured out who the Felix Felicis is, its Crookshanks, from a excerpt from rowling "He looked rather like an old lion. There were streaks of grey in his mane of tawny hair and his bushy eyebrows; he had keen yellowish eyes behind a pair of wire-rimmed spectacles and a certain rangy, loping grace even though he walked with a slight limp."
Crookshanks is a shapeshifter and he can become a cat or human at will, he was always a little two smart for a normal magical cat and J.K rowling said that crucshanks has more then meets the eye. Who ever Crookshanks is, he is also the half blood prince

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Posted on May 7 2005, 10:35 PM
J.K. didn't say that he wasn't a shape shifter.

Posted on May 7 2005, 10:38 PM
Isn't the street the Dursleys live on called Spinners end

i want to bring up a subject! didnt jk say that there was a connection with the second book and the 6th!? well that was the year where harry saw riddle in his 6th year form! when riddle told harry that harry was alot like him! and the 6th book is when harry will be in the same year as riddle was! thats when harry will be most like mr.voldy! that could be he connection between the books!

just saying!

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JKR said the Crookshanks is NOT a person in any way. It can't be a shape shifter or anything like that. Crookshanks is a CAT and JKR has said that

Yup yup, part cat part kneazle. So, that kind of takes crookshanks out of the running. And the street the dursleys live on is Privet Drive, not Spinners End, but I think you're on the right track with it being a street name. And, BTW, Welcome to the Forums.


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Hmmm... That Draco's Detour sounds very interesting to me. What is a detour except an alternative way to an ultimate destination. I have little hope that Draco will end up anywhere but in the shadow of his father and Voldemort, but what could this alternate path be? Does he hope to dream outside his prescribed future? Does he stumble upon valuable information for the benefit of evil or good? Very, very interesting.

As for Spinners end I simply thought that this was Sirius' house he got from his Uncle.

Draco's detour let us not forget that the boks are written in Harry's perspective. So I thought that Draco and Harry will see one another at the funeral for Sirius, possibly while he is on his way to Azkaban.

Not too sure on FF

The chapter "Felix Felicis" could be the one she describes as "he looked rather like an old lion....". So this could be the chapter were he comes in to play. I meen Felix is a comon cat name, and he described as kind of looking like one.

Spinner's End: Sounds like she's referring to a spider-maybe it's about Aragog's death?

Draco's Detour: No clue.

Felix Felicis: Sounds like a new spell.

All Right. I've been deep into this chapter theorizing, and I think I've got one of them down. Felix Felicis. I know some people are disputing over the whole what does Felix Felicis mean in Latin. But if you think about it Hogwarts is the name of a flower. So it could be something else. I think its pretty obvious its a person. Anyone remember Felix Summerbee. So we know its a name. And as far as the spell/person dispute goes, think about his. Only 8 of the spells in Harry Potter have two words. But, 48 of the people in Harry Potter have double initials (Minerva McGonnagal, Quirrelus Quirrel, Filius Flitwick, Severus Snape). Notice that there all teachers. Then look at the chapter names before: The Man With Two Faces;Gilderoy Lockhart; Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot, and Prongs; Mad-Eye Moody; and Proffesor Umbridge. The DADA Teacher is always one of the chapters. So that leads me to believe Felix Felicis is the new DADA teacher. I also think that its the excerpt, here I'll repeat it:

He looked rather like an old lion. There were streaks of grey in his mane of tawny hair and his bushy eyebrows; he had keen yellowish eyes behind a pair of wire-rimmed spectacles and a certain rangy, loping grace even though he walked with a slight limp.

I'm betting that he got the slight limp from experience with dealing in the DADA. And I'm pretty sure that Felix has some sort of connection to cats, even if its not in Latin. So that would explain the lion thing. The last two things I believe are this: Felix Felicis will continue to teach Harry Occlumency and He will be important to the end of the book. If you look in the chapters of the middle of each book, they all do a bit of foreshadowing of what happens in the end. So maybe the knife on the deluxe edition belongs to him...? What do you think?

I agree that Felix is a cat-like name. Who knows who this could be. I guess I am in general agreement that it is the new DADA teacher.

Spinners End? Could possibly be about Aragog. He is the obvious choice, (spider and all). But what does the term spinner mean? In the News it means a reporter puts thier "spin" on something. The "spinner" could be of that nature and could refer to Rita. Just thought I would throw that out there as another avenue.

Draco's Detour. I have thought about it and wondered what the chances are that Draco's Detour means his detour from his current course of being on the "dark side" so to speak. Just another one of those off the wall ideas I had.

Any takers????

well Spinners End COULD mean something about aragog if it was farther down through the book, but it is chapter two, so i think it is likely to be a street adresss

Spinners End -- this sounds like a place. Possibly where Harry goes after he leaves the Dursley's.

Draco's Detour -- when I think of Detour, I think of The Amazing Race where there are two different choices to go on. I know JKR didn't get the idea of Detour from The Amazing Race ((or did she. . .nah)) but maybe Draco has to decide between 2 different paths. These paths could be physical or even hypothetical. But this detour is what he's going to have to go through in order to achieve where he wants to go/be.

Felix F. (<can't spell it) -- If it's a spell, then it would tie into a charm that could make someone happy. I took latin and know that it means happy and lucky. The reason why cat's are often named Felix is because they are FELINES but also because they have nine lives and that makes them lucky. . .nine lives = lucky = Felix. . yeah. Trust me, we went over it in my latin class. If Nicolas Flamel was still alive, I'd say this would have to do with him or something. . . cause cats have more than one life. . .and Nicolas Flamel could be considered to have multiple lives. But then again, Harry doesn't know that wizards and witches tend to live a tad longer than muggles ((JKR said it herself))

when i saw the name of chapter 14, Felix Felicis, the first thing that poped into my head was something jk said in an intervew, or rather what she didn't say

Is there something more to the cats appearing in the books than first meets the eye? (i.e. Mrs. Figg's cats, Crookshanks, Prof. McGonagall as a cat, etc.)
JKR: Ooooo, another good question. Let's see what I can tell you without giving anything away ... erm ... no, can't do it, sorry.

everything else i can think of has already been said, although i only read like half of this thread (you expect me to read 8 pages!?). just thought i'd put in my 2 cents.

O.k I know you'll probably think this is too much math for Harry Potter, but hear me out. I've divided each chapter number by the amount of chapters in the book. So for Chapter Two I divided it by thirty (the amount of chapters in book six). Then I timed that number by each chapter in the other books. You know what happens at that point in every single one. Accidental Magic. In book one, theres the whole Vanishing Glass. Then in book two, Dobby's Pudding Fiasco. Then in Book Three, theres Aunt Marges Big Mistake. In Book Four, the scar. Which is accidental legilimens. Then in book five, the dementors attack. So what would Spinners End be about that is accidental magic. Has anyone thought of Harry protecting himself against someone. Someone "untrustworthy". Someone that would make a sneakocope "spin" so much that it would "end". Any takers on this idea?

I honestly dont think Jk would have realeased the title of a chapter that contained the name of the half blood prince. as for spinners end, i'll have to think that over, and draco's detour, lets hope it was the ministry searching their house!

I've done the math for Draco's Detour. You know what happens? Harry's first pleasant visit to the Magical World. So Draco's Detour has to be positive for Harry. And where he first goes to has to be somewhere where Draco would be.

1. Where would Harry & Draco both be seeing eachother? (Its too early for Hogwarts)
2. Where would Harry first go to in the magic world?
3. Does this deal with the pleasant reason?

Remember: Do I really have to say it?

are you actually giving a hint? because i'm not getting it. what are you leading to?
~ana

I think since JKR gave use the titles to Chapters 2, 6 and 14, then they'd probably have to be related to eachother, somehow.

Like say for instance, if Spinner's End is a place, and Draco's Detour is a physical trip, then could felix Felicis be someone at Spinner's End whom Draco visited or visits?

Spinner's end could also be a physical object, not necessarily a place ... maybe a portkey ... which could explain Draco's Detour ... inadvertently touching the key ... and then once again Felix Felicis (if an actual person) would be awaiting on the other end of this portkey.

Although, Spinner's End could also be a litteral ending, like the Web of a Spider or a network (a group of people linked together) with draco being the ending piece ... noting ch 6 as Draco's Detour, as a side adventure to his true purpose ... and Felix Felicis could (if human again) be an individual in this web -- remember Voldemort said something about not knowing if a DE was still with them or not, could ch 14 be the intro of this person ... even more so, if we play of the cat theory (Crookshanks?) is actually Felix, who could be in league with Voldemort, or even Dumbledore, hense the hatred of Petigrew.

"Oh what a tangled web we weave"

However, we could also look at the idea that none of these chapters relate, in which has already been expunged upon by y'all. in which the most popular ideas are:
Ch 2 Spinner's End - is a place where Harry goes to escape the dursley's
Ch 6 draco's Detour - the mysterious endeavor's of everyone's "favorite" villian
Ch 14 felix felicis - a lucky cat, or lucky charm (they're magically delicious)

picasso - where was it released there was 30 chapters in book six?

I'm sorry I can't remember where, but it was somewhere. So maybe I should find out, I'll get on that . But before I do that, let me put my theories:

To everyone who hasn't read, I have been applying math to the Harry Potter chapters. I've been dividing the chapter # that Rowling gave us (2,6, & 14) by the amount of chapters in the 6th book (30, dunno where I found that, but I'll look). Then I got the ratio. 2/30,6/30, and 14/30. Then I multiplied that by each of the total amounts of chapters in the other books. I got a number from that. And this is what I found out.

At the 2/30 part of the book, Harry usually goes through accidental or unexpected magic: The Vanishing Glass, Dobby's Warning, Aunt Marges Big Mistake, The Scar (Legilimens), and Dudley Demented. Each one of these refer to the magic that happens, who does it, or who it happens to. So Spinners End probably does too. Its either a person or a reference to the spell that happens.

At the 6/30 part of the book, Harry goes through his first happiest visit to the magical world: Diagon Alley, The Burrow, The Leaky Cauldron, Quidditch World Cup (Although he was at the burrow for a short time, this was his earliest happiest moment I'd say), The Ministry of Magic (he had to worry about the hearing which ruined the visit, after the clearing it was all good again). Each of these refers to a place. So Dracos Detour, must refer to a place and not a change of heart.

At the 14/30 part of the book, Harry is introduced to the end climatic part of the book : Midnight Duel (He is introduced to Fluffy who guards the Sorcerers Stone), The Writing on The Wall, The Marauders Map (Sirius's name is on their, and the fact that he was Harry's fathers frien is on their unknown to Harry), The Four Champions, & Dumbledores Army. Only Dumbledores Army and The Four Champions refer to what actually happens in the end. So this helps little. But I'm betting that within the Felix Felicis chapter, Harry is introduced to what happens in the end. The other possibility is that Felix is the hpb.

Tell me what you guys think. I know everybody hates math (I'm currently having an argument with a friend about who would win between art and math). But i think this helps. And the covers help a little bit too, so art and math are equal. As of now...

I think Spinner's End will be somthing we haven't seen before, it may be the new premises of Fred and Georges shop.

Dracos Detour seems more metaphorical as we near the finish, I think he tries to save his father from Azkaban, or meets up with Death Eaters and Harry and Ron follow him to find out what is happening.

I think throghout the book HBP will be mentinoed as arisen again or if he is a person he will be described as a Third Party between the Death Eaters and Order of Phoenix. He may be Felis.

I've already stated above why I think Draco's Detour actually refers to a place. So can anybody tell me where Harry & Draco would see eachother? I'm trying to get new ideas, I'm out. I don't think they'd be at Hogwarts by now. Anyone think we'll see Knockturn Alley again....

Personally, when I think of the chapter's she has listed, I just go by gut instinct. How it mesh's with what she's writtin in the past to me. So, without further ado, my theories (without math which I am not very good at, being out of college for over 10 years does that).

Spinner's End just sounds like a place to me. Perhaps another part of Diagon Alley, perhaps the new site of the OoTP headquarters or maybe just a plce where the OoTP is sending the children to for their protection. The early book always seems to focus on Harry out of Hogwarts, and I think Chapter 2, aka Spinner's End, is going to focus on where Harry (and probably Ron and Hermione) go as well since Harry leaves the Dursley's for his happiest reason to date (or at least much pleasanter than normal).

Draco's Detour does not sound like a place to me. It to me seems focussed on young Malfoy and quite possibly his attempts to free his father (If he hasn't been free'd as of yet). I actually feel sorry for Draco, he is the product of his environment. He wasn't given a chance to be anything than what he is. So I am one of those that see Draco's Detour as either a misstep in his quest to mess with Harry, or a sideways realization about his Father. Perhaps he even seeks out Voldemort himself (Being 16 and all and I doubt that Voldemort has any compunctions against using an under age wizard like the OoTP does).

Felix Felicis sounds like a charm to me. I know it's been beat to heck but it does. At this point in their lives I would not put it past Hermione to -invent- a charm given her learning and knowledge. Since it is a chapter title, it seems it would be somewhat important to the book if not the overall plot or developement of the characters. Or it could similarily be a new charm taught them by the new DADA teacher that sticks out and has importance later in the novel (Ending climatic scene perhaps).

My theories.

This is my first post, so go easy on me. But I think Picasso is right. I don't think Draco's Detour would be a change of heart. I think it would be too hard for kids to really understand what it meant. I think if they did go to Knockturn Alley that would be awesome though.

I have no clue on Felix Felicis, but more people have been chapters than spells have. I'm too lazy to count them. As far as who it could be, well I can't see Rowling giving away the HBP that easily. So I'm thinking it might be the new Minister of Magic.

Spinners End,hmmm. The only things I can think of that spin is the sneakocope and Aragog. I think it would be too early for Aragog though.

Do you think that Felix can be a spell that can protect you from the(I don't know how to write it in English so I hope yo'll understand)3 courses that kill, torture and controlling a guy's actions?( )
If it's not a spell I'd say it may be the new minister of magic, but I thought that we'll find out who it is earlier and if the book is shorter than OoTF I don't think that it'll take that much time choose a new minister of magic, especialy when they need one fast, now that Voldy returned.
So do you think Felix can be a spell like I wrote above? Or that JKR will leave those 3 courses unprotectable?

* Spinners End is a street in Hogsmeade.. were the graveyard is.

* Dracos Detour is .. yeah I know. it is stupid... Draco gets in love with Hermione.. well maybe she isnt with him but.. you get the point.

* Felix Felicis has to be a person.. And he has something to do with cats.. (check his name) and I think he is mister X.
Lion<--> Cat

Im just :

RJ


Oh and FoxHound: In OOTP they succeed in defending against the three unforgivable curses.. with luck though

About the chapter called "Felix Felicis", I first thought of cat. As in feline. Then felicis meaning good luck and lucky. There is something more that meets the eye with Mrs. Norris and all of Mrs. Figg's cats. They are both squibs as well. I think this might relate to that. Just a theory.

Since the book is out in a months time today I thought I better give this another go.
I do think that the Felix is a spell made by hermione she may become an Animagus I am not sure.

I like the idea of Felix Felicis being the new MoM. Maybe it's simply a chapter where he becomes more important. Or he may be the new DADA teacher, also.

Spinners End:

I agree with all of you that think this is a place that Harry will probably be taken when he leaves the Dursley's. JKR said he will leave for "much more pleasant reasons" than last time so hopefully it will be a good move. I like the idea that it could be Sirius's house... or Lupin's House, or Hermione's House or Dumbledore's house. Maybe he has left it to Harry. Maybe it will be the new location of the Order of the Phoenix if Narcissa Malfoy inherits the Black House, as she is originally a Black and may stand to inherit it before Harry could.

Draco's Detour:

I like the thought that Draco could have a detour on his current path. It has occurred to me that, if Lucius were to get out of Azkaban and Voldemort were to kill him for not only failing to get the prophecy, but the prophecy being LOST, then Draco could lose faith in Voldemort and change sides.

Felix Filicis:

I like the idea that it is a lucky cat of some kind... perhaps lucky lion!
Someone also mentioned the possibility of a cat being Ginny's patronus, What if Ginny becomes an animagus, her animagus would surely be a cat after all the cat references connected to her. (curled up like a cat, hissed like a cat)

It is so great to read all these excellent ideas!

Hi all,
This is my first post. Have only registered today even though i've been reading your comments.

Regarding the chapter titles for the 6th book, personally i think the chapter entitled "Felix Felicis" may indeed refer to something lucky. JK Rowling has a tendancy to use various latin or roman words (Verita is roman, but you probably knew that already) Could it be a lucky spell? I think we can rule out the cat bit because that is only a name we associate with the word Felix.

"Spinners End" could be either the end of a spider, perhaps Aragog in Chamber Of Secrets (there is meant to be a link) Or something to do with the remembrall as that spins!

"Draco's Detour" well a detour is a shorter route to somewhere or something. Maybe Draco will create a shorter path to lead Voldemort to Harry? or perhaps someone else?

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Oks hayhays people im new on this forum thingy, some of you may reconize me from the chatroom..or..not anywho im still trying to figure how this thing works..anyways to the clues...i have looked up the felix
felises watcha ma call it in every dict possible the latin the salng and plain old english but i still havnt looked in the old english mmms

All i know is it meens happy happy greeting, good luck you know all that stuff *sighs* anyways oo i think i know what harry discovered in the chamber that wil come back in the six book hehehe i wonts tell uless yous begs mes

The clues must have been guessed by now by loads of people.
I do think spinners end is some kind of new residence, Dracos Detour must be some kind of choice Draco makes and Felix is some sort of Lucky Charm, probably to conjure up a cat or something. Hermione may become an animagus if anything?

Yah thats what i thought too..mmm id be cool of she was able to
change into a cat allready oo maybe hermione will show harry
that she can it would be cool then she could be of more help...ok... heck i dont know but she will be more involved
i can sence it

I love the Knockturn Alley theory that was brought up earlier in this topic. Perhaps "Spinners End" has something to do with Knockturn Alley. Remember that JKR said there would be connections between the second and sixth book, and the second book is the only time we saw Knockturn Alley. I can't believe she'd bring up a place that obviously harbors some serious dark arts stuff for only a short little blurb in which you don't even really find out anything.

who is harry's "nearest and dearest"? Is it his best friends, Ron and Hermionie, or is it the person he gets paired with? Nearest and Dearest is talking about one person, not two.

like somone said earlier felix means cat i think that this is when crookshanks aka felix is introduced. i think he is charecter x because in one of the books they mention crookshanks being abnormally smart for a cat

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spinners end to me means that somone will die because in america end is used sometimes to mean that someone has died or met their in. who is a major spinner in the harry potter books dumbledore dumbledore spun many webs to get harrry to where he is now and i remember jkr saying something about a charecter dieing thats just my interpretation

felix felices could be the name of a new spell or curse. it sounds like an incantation

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Yahs it could be a spell but i dont think so if it was just a spell would of jk releast it if it was just and only a spell i dont think so
i must be somthing more that that ...maybe lily was able to chang into a cat and she was apart of the marauders pfft
i dont know it must be some kind of happy greeting thats a cat... ummm dang jk can realy make you think

JKR always has a way of confounding even the most clever of us. It's not a coincidence that the clues she let out are causing everyone's heads to spin with theorizing. But I think some are reading into these clues too much.

Spinners End- I've read lots of good theories on this one, especially the ones that talk about it being a certain place, possibly on Knockturn Alley. However, it could also be an event, although I highly doubt it involves Aragog or any other spider. My thinking is that it has to do with Rita Skeeter or something else to with gossiping; hence, "spinner". It's a stretch, but you never know.

Draco's Detour- This one sounds like we're going to learn more information about the Malfoy family. Or, it could mean that Draco's going to run into some kind of problem or he's going to do some shady business. I wish I could be more specific but this one's tricky.

Felix Felicis- I think this chapter title's been applied to too much. I'd be incredibly shocked if it has anything to do with a new character, whether it be the HBP or the new DADA teacher or anyone else. My thoughts are that this chapter involves something happening with Crookshanks. The felix obviously refers to cat, and felicis means having to do with luck. So I think we're going to find out something about Crookshanks lucky nature. I doubt it'll be a huge part of the plot, but it should be interesting.

I doubt JKR would give out any information that vital to the plot. Or if she did, it would be so complex that no one could guess how they relate.

avada i agree with you on all your points and would be extremely surprised if the theory about rita skeeter isnt correct because i think i remember reading somewhere that rita skeeter was going to come back a little in this book

Spinners end, I think people delve to deep into things these days.. obviously where the spinner ends up someone has taken a gamble for good or bad? I simple logical ideal to help figure out o.O

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QUOTE (PicassoTurgeon @ Jun 12 2005 @ 05:39 PM)

(30, dunno where I found that, but I'll look

its 36 chapters not 30

QUOTE (Balam @ May 24 2005 @ 07:20 PM)

Spinner's End: Sounds like she's referring to a spider-maybe it's about Aragog's death?

i TOTALLY agree with you

QUOTE (Snapelover @ Jun 9 2005 @ 05:09 PM)

Spinners End? Could possibly be about Aragog. He is the obvious choice, (spider and all).

that is probably true because JK did say that a discovery Harry made in CoS would be VITAL to the plot of HBP...........what do you think? huh.gif