im not sure where i found this out but i heard that Ollivander is an anagram (a word, phrase, or sentence formed from another by rearranging its letters) and another word it can make is "An Evil Lord". could this be an explanation to why he disappeared without any sign of a fight in his shop? could he maybe be RAB? (this topic is not about who RAB is) and can he maybe be the one to help harry? Ollivander sort of helped harry and tried to get him on his side because maybe he along with harry, hermione and ron knows the full extent of the prophecy. he might want to get harry to kill voldemort. he was the one who told harry that it was so curious that he had the "brother" wand of voldemorts.
i know that Ollivander being an evil lord is probably stupid because JK probably wouldnt add another powerful dark wizard but i still think that there could be a chance that he tries to help harry.

That sounds cool, but where did you hear that he's an "anagram?" And I don't think he could be RAB because well, there's an O in his name but, then again, it could be a nickname or something like that. I just can't seem to think of anything that could fit in with him. His disapearance was really mysterious though, now that I think about it more, and it makes sense if he was "An Evil Lord," that he would flee or something along those lines. Right at this moment I do not have any ideas about your suggestion but I'm gonna think about it.

question here!!!! what's a RAB??? i remember the note in the fake locket to Voldemort....but what does RAB stand for anyways??? i never did figure that out!!!

Umm... R.A.B is the person that wrote that letter but look in the forum called "What/Who is R.A.B?" or something like that, it might give you a better idea to who he is. No one knows for sure who RAB is yet. We're gonna find out in the seventh book.

Oh my god what if RAB is an organisation?? like the Order or sumthing...

anywho back on to olii, i have a feeling that voldy has him cause as Authur said "if the other said has him..we will have to make do the the others" or something like that cause if voldy has him well then they (DE) will have all the best wands! No...

I think Ollivander may have been kidnapped by Lord V. and the Death Eaters. Im pretty sure Lord V. would want to find out more about his and Harry's wands. As we know both wands have a Phoneix feather core from Dumbledore's phoneix, Fawkes. When Harry and Lord V. battled in the graveyard at the end of GoF Priori Incantatem occured and Lord V. will most surely want to investigate that to stop it happening again!!

i know that it is most likely that he has been kidnapped by the DE but it just feels like that is the obvious answer and since when has JK ever led us on so much like this. i just think its going to be something that we dont expect.

i really like your idea MinistryPosterBoy. that would really be a surprise but in the note it said that"i will be dead long before you find out this is not the true horcrux" or something like that. so im guessing that is only one person.

My gut feeling is he has voluntarily joined the Death Eaters. His exchange with Harry at the selection of his wand is rather creepy and I always figured he was really on their side.

You're probably right.

I, too, always read him as being eerily fascinated by the dark arts. When I read that he had disappeared, I chose to believe what Lupin (it is Lupin, isn't it?) theorizes, that he has been kidnapped, although your theory crossed my mind. It seemed extremely convenient given how creepy the exchange during Harry's wand selection was...

Maybe I'm a bit too Dumbledore for my own good.

i have just been looking at magical creatures an i saw lethifolds. it said that lethifolds suffocate humans and then digest them leaving no trace of anything behind. yea i know its far-fetched but its possible that he could have been eatin by a lethifold. though they are most often found in the tropics. but if voldemort got the dementors to work with him maybe he got some lethifold also because the only things hey eat are humans.
i really dont want to believe that ollivander is evil. but if he is their is nothing i can do to stop it.

I suppose that's an idea? Never heard of those particular creatures but they sound like they'd be working for Voldemort. My guess is still that he joined the other side. I kind of want him to have done that. I don't have any affection for him, and I'm one of those readers who likes to find out there are networks. I like to think of a hidden evil network and an equally hidden good network prepared to help Harry win. But that's just a personality thing, I guess. I've never been much for the western-style recluse-hero.

This is one of those theories that have got me stumped. The theroy about the anagram though in my oppinion is just a coincidence as i doubt JK will add another dark wizard in- Altough he could be working along side LV. But wether olivader is working free will or under the imperius curse he will be a great help to voldie (thats if voldie has got him, i dont think we know for sure do we, does any one have any concreate evidence?)

im really unsure on ollivander and where he is, and im quite curious about it.
his character may be 'creepy' but appearances are decpetive and the main reason i question whether he would voluntarily join the DE is because from what i can remember from the books he is relatively close to DD. i think DD says in GoF to harry, that as soon as harry left his shop after buying his wand, olivander wrote to DD telling him that harry had bought the wand with his pheonix's feather in it, the same as LV! so he knows him quite well, because i doubt he writes to everyone who has ever had a bit of thier animals put into his wands, telling them its been sold.

also, in GoF DD gets Ollivander in to check the triwizard champions wands. i know this was an obvious choice as ollivander was said to be the best, but DD is usually a good judge of character and surely wouldnt have invited him into hogwarts and give him any chance of tampering with harrys wand if he thought he was a DE or in any way intrested in being a DE?

about the RAB theory, i dont think he is RAB, his surname is Ollivander and doesnt it say on his shop something like Ollivanders....makers of fine wnads since 328BC. this would indicate that the shop has been in hisfamily for generations and Ollivander is his real surname.

i hope LV hasnt captured him, because he seems powerful and people said if they ahve him its not good news for us!

the idea that RAB is an order or group is interesting tho. im not sure its true but its still a gd idea... hmmm ill have a think about that.

I myself don't think Ollivander is bad either, he might be a bit creepy, but then so are a lot of old wizards.

I think that after after LV witnessed Priori Incantantem, he realised that Harry's wand has a special connection with his own. Since his return, i got the impression that he was desperate to seperate all bonds between himself and harry, he couldn't risk something else stopping him destroying Harry. He knew that their wand's had a connection, but didn't know what, that's why he kidnapped Ollivander. Ollivander probably gave in - he doesn't seem particularly strong, and told LV about the pheonix feathers.

If this is possible (i'm not sure), I guess that perhaps LV forced Ollivander to replace the pheonix feather in his wand with a different one, therefore getting rid of the two wand's bond. Like I said, I don't know whether this affects how the wand works, but I think if LV was really desperate, it wouldn't matter to him.

any thoughts?

its highly possible that LV kidnapped him to find out why there wands experienced priori incantanem and to make ollivander make him a new one which is just as powerful and suits him as well, because he wouldnt want it to happen again and jepordise his chances of killing harry!
but then something says to me he wouldnt do this, that he would sort of like the fact that they are enemies and have this link, i disagree that he wanted to seperate all the bonds....he used harrys blood when being reborn, that to me isnt seperating, thats a bond, he has some of harry blood running through his own veins. he wanted it to make sure he could touch harry, and wasnt that bothered that they would consequently have this connection.
but im not sure, i wouldnt be surprised if hes changed wands but i also wouldnt be suprised if hes kept the same one despite its link to harry. sorry this is a really indecisive post but i cant make my mind up

I'm lovin the whole anagram thing. That would be really cool! As far as the rab organization thing, I'm posting a topic, cuz what if harry's parents' jobs were working for that organization?

There are so many different names in the HP series that are anagrams! I think it's very intriguing, and after Tom Marvolo Riddle spelled I am Lord Voldemot in CoS, who knows if some of them hold true. If not, Jo is just really good at picking names, haha.

It's a possibility that Ollivander went into hiding so Voldy wouldn't get him, or he was scared Voldy would just kill him. Either way, I hope he's in DH so we know what becomes of him!

I think that Voldemort kidnapped Olivander so there wouldn't be anothe priori incantatum or whatever, but how did you get to the conclusion that he's Regulus?

i like the idea the voldemort captured ollivander so he could learn morew about the priori incantatem and possibly get a new wand so their wands wouldnt "connect" again and jeopardize his chances of killing harry. i hope this isnt the case and i also hope that he isnt an evil lord.
i still think that it is a possibilty that he is RAB because in the letter inside the fake locket it said something about how he would be dead before voldemort ever found out that he took the real locket. for all we know ollivander could have died between the end of the 5th and the beginning of the 6th. it was ollivanders shop that was found completely normal right? and florean fortescue's (sp?) ice cream shop was found all messed up, right? if not then my theory might be completely wrong.

JKR doesn't make a lot of coinsidences. I think his name has to mean something deeper and darker. And I also think there has to be an important reason that his shop had no sign of struggle. JKR would not have included that if it didn't mean something.

This is a very interesting thread!

I'm not sure if Ollivander is evil or not... I agree that JKR does not to things for no reason, and that the anagram is not likely a mistake.

I don't think that he is RAB, but I do think that he has or had a horcrux in his possession... Ravenclaw's wand. It was on a royal purple pillow in the window of his shop when Harry bought his wand. I see Ollivander as a Ravenclaw... very smart and able to make magnificent wands... they are the best available. What if he is actually a descendant of Ravenclaw, and had her wand. The wand may now be in Neville's hands, since he was likely the last sale that Ollivander made before he disappeared.

LV may have made the wand into a horcrux, and then hidden it "in plain sight." Ollivander may have sold it to Neville to keep LV from getting it back. He is in awe of LV's power, but seems to realize that he does terrible things with it.

I have always thought Ollivander went into hiding...he would have gone sooner, but he was waiting until Neville Longbottom got a wand from him. I think Neville's wand is special, but I don't know why.

I would agree that with the theory that Voldemort capture Ollivander for information, but I would disagree with the idea that he did so to break the connection between his and Harry's wand or for the fact that he wants a new wand. Remember, it is the wand that choose the wizard or witch, not the other way around. The wand Voldemort has is steeped in history, and he is obsessed with history, so I would say he just wants information. He probably also wants to deprive the other side of his wand making skills.

Ravenclaw's wand, eh? I like that. Do we know for a fact that he has it in his possession? I don't remember him telling Harry it was Ravenclaw's. I like the idea though. I don't think that Neville has it now though--DD said of Gryffindor's sword "only a true Gryffindor could have pulled that out of the hat," so it seems unlikely that a Gryffindor would be chosen (the wand chooses the wizard, remember) to bear a relic of Ravenclaw's.

The name of the wand shop "Ollivanders" (instead of just his name, being Ollivander without the 's' at the end) also spells "Ronald's evil" as well as "Ronald lives". But I don't think that was JKR's intention at all bc he hasn't really got anything to do with Ron at all but I just thought it was cool to point out. And I think he was captured because LV knows his wand & Harry's don't work against each other and he needs help. I don't think he's (Ollivander) evil though, well I guess we'll see very soon!

No, Emrys, it doesn't say that the wand is Ravenclaw's, but it must have belonged to someone special, because it was prominently displayed on a royal purple pillow in the window of the shop. I was saying it was Ravenclaw's because Ollivander seems to me to be a Ravenclaw, and if he was a descendant of Ravenclaw, he would have a reason to be in possession of her wand.

Also, I know that the wand chooses the wizard, but if Ollivander wanted to keep Ravenclaw's wand safe, he could have told Neville that it chose him... Neville wouldn't know the difference because he never had his own wand before (he used his Dad's old wand before this.) Even though someone else's wand may not work as well for you as the one that chooses you, they still do work as we have seen.

I LOVE your anagram, babydoll! I never saw that one, but love the Ron lives one! I'm sure that Ron is not evil and agree that while Ollivanders has nothing really to do with Ron, JKR may just have been having a giggle at giving us a clue to the end so discretely!